<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Rubén, yes I played with their demo a bit and with others crm too, like Vte crm, corebos and so on, they derive from some version of vtiger.<div class="">We can make a wishlist of things these crm have and vtiger hasn’t , but step 1 is: </div><div class="">would vtiger team allow us to implement those features or not? <br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Il giorno 25 nov 2021, alle ore 17:36, Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <<a href="mailto:rulotec1@gmail.com" class="">rulotec1@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Angelo,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Have you considered YetiForce? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Anybody else, have you considered or tried (or even switched to) YetiForce? What are the pros/cons of YetiForce in comparison to vtiger? </div><div class=""><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class="">Saludos<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rubén</div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 8:58 AM Vincenzo Bruno <<a href="mailto:v.bruno@vinsoft.it" class="">v.bruno@vinsoft.it</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="">Il 25/11/21 11:42, Angelo Paglialonga
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Hi Vincenzo, thank you!
<div class="">You can get involved here: <a href="https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm" target="_blank" class="">https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm</a></div>
<div class="">I’ll wait for your fixes and new features proposals!</div>
</blockquote><p class="">Without a username and password on <a href="http://code.vtiger.com/" target="_blank" class="">code.vtiger.com</a> I can't even
clone the repo...<br class="">
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Angelo Paglialonga<br class="">
Consulente per soluzioni CRM ad alto ROI.<br class="">
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Telefono: 3386077866<br class="">
Skype: angelo.paglialonga<br class="">
Web: <a href="https://www.angelopaglialonga.com/" target="_blank" class="">https://www.angelopaglialonga.com</a></div>
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<div class="">Il giorno 25 nov 2021, alle ore 11:30,
Vincenzo Bruno <<a href="mailto:v.bruno@vinsoft.it" target="_blank" class="">v.bruno@vinsoft.it</a>>
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<div class="">Hi Angelo,</div>
<div class="">I fully agree with you.</div>
<div class="">Unfortunately my journey in
your plan ends at Step 1 because I'm not yet in the
Git.</div>
<div class="">I'm happy to contribute if
I can, so I ask Vtiger staff to allow me in the code
server.<br class="">
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<div class="">Il 25/11/21 10:27, Angelo
Paglialonga ha scritto:<br class="">
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<div class="">Hi @all, this is the current status of
vtiger open source , in my point of view:</div>
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<div class="">I had quite a few customers who simply
ran away from vtiger open source because of the bugs
and lack useful features vtiger competitors already
have out of the box.</div>
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<div class=""><b class="">You may think they ran away
from vtiger open source to vtiger on demand, but
no, because of the bad experience they don’t trust
vtiger brand anymore and go to Vtiger competitors.</b></div>
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<div class="">You may think again, we as developers,
can get paid for fixing bugs and for introducing
custom modules, or even module replacements, but in
the long game this is plain wrong even from an
economic point of view, because bugs and lack of
basic features scare away very good customers, those
with big deals and big ideas to implement in a crm
project. </div>
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<div class="">Vtiger open source customers are not
the same customers who buy vtiger cloud
subscription, even if on <a href="http://vtiger.com/" target="_blank" class="">vtiger.com</a> the access
to opensource download is almost hidden!</div>
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<div class="">Steve jobs said : <span style="color:rgb(16,16,16);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">"</span><span style="color:rgb(16,16,16);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">We have to let go of this notion
that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose." -
Steve Jobs, Macworld Expo Boston keynote, 1997</span></div>
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<div class=""><b class="">I think this quote can be
rewritten like this: vtiger open source doesn’t
have to suck so vtiger cloud can win, because we
can both win.</b></div>
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<div class="">This email is not just a way to complain
pointlessly, the objective is to invite vtiger
community and vtiger team to take action together!</div>
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<div class="">STEP 1:</div>
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<div class="">If you, vtiger team, don’t have time to
merge bug fixes, engage in conversations with vtiger
community on git, review and merge new
functionalities as fast as they come on git,</div>
<div class="">just let us do it, please.</div>
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<div class="">STEP 2:</div>
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<div class="">Vtiger community please submit on git
all bugs you want to get fixed, all the features you
think could help develop vtiger extending modules
instead of replacing vtiger modules, anything to
help closing the gap between vtiger open source and
its competitors.</div>
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<div class="">STEP 3:</div>
<div class="">vtiger community please help with
development of anything set in STEP 2, if I fix
something and you fix something else we both win,
it’s the same for new functionalities.</div>
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<div class="">So, @all what do you think?</div>
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Angelo Paglialonga<br class="">
Consulente per soluzioni CRM ad alto ROI.<br class="">
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Telefono: 3386077866<br class="">
Skype: angelo.paglialonga<br class="">
Web: <a href="https://www.angelopaglialonga.com/" target="_blank" class="">https://www.angelopaglialonga.com</a></div>
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Vincenzo Bruno (cell. 328-7252923)
Coopyleft (<a href="http://www.vinsoft.it/coopyleft" target="_blank" class="">www.vinsoft.it/coopyleft</a>)
Digital Polis (<a href="http://www.digitalpolis.it/" target="_blank" class="">www.digitalpolis.it</a>)
Hacklab Cosenza (<a href="http://www.hlcs.it/" target="_blank" class="">www.hlcs.it</a>)
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Vincenzo Bruno (cell. 328-7252923)
Coopyleft (<a href="http://www.vinsoft.it/coopyleft" target="_blank" class="">www.vinsoft.it/coopyleft</a>)
Digital Polis (<a href="http://www.digitalpolis.it/" target="_blank" class="">www.digitalpolis.it</a>)
Hacklab Cosenza (<a href="http://www.hlcs.it/" target="_blank" class="">www.hlcs.it</a>)
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