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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 25/11/21 11:42, Angelo Paglialonga
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      Hi Vincenzo, thank you! 
      <div class="">You can get involved here: <a
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      <div class="">I’ll wait for your fixes and new features proposals!</div>
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    <p>Without a username and password on code.vtiger.com I can't even
      clone the repo...<br>
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    <p>Vincenzo</p>
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      <div class="">Angelo<br class="">
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            Angelo Paglialonga<br class="">
            Consulente per soluzioni CRM ad alto ROI.<br class="">
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            Telefono: 3386077866<br class="">
            Skype: angelo.paglialonga<br class="">
            Web: <a href="https://www.angelopaglialonga.com" class=""
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            <div class="">Il giorno 25 nov 2021, alle ore 11:30,
              Vincenzo Bruno <<a href="mailto:v.bruno@vinsoft.it"
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Angelo,</div>
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I fully agree with you.</div>
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Unfortunately my journey in
                  your plan ends at Step 1 because I'm not yet in the
                  Git.</div>
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm happy to contribute if
                  I can, so I ask Vtiger staff to allow me in the code
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Vincenzo<br class="">
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 25/11/21 10:27, Angelo
                  Paglialonga ha scritto:<br class="">
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                  <div class="">Hi @all, this is the current status of
                    vtiger open source , in my point of view:</div>
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                  <div class="">I had quite a few customers who simply
                    ran away from vtiger open source because of the bugs
                    and lack useful features vtiger competitors already
                    have out of the box.</div>
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                  <div class=""><b class="">You may think they ran away
                      from vtiger open source to vtiger on demand, but
                      no, because of the bad experience they don’t trust
                      vtiger brand anymore and go to Vtiger competitors.</b></div>
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                  <div class="">You may think again, we as developers,
                    can get paid for fixing bugs and for introducing
                    custom modules, or even module replacements, but in
                    the long game this is plain wrong even from an
                    economic point of view, because bugs and lack of
                    basic features scare away very good customers, those
                    with big deals and big ideas to implement  in a crm
                    project. </div>
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                    <div class="">Vtiger open source customers are not
                      the same customers who buy vtiger cloud
                      subscription, even if on <a
                        href="http://vtiger.com/" class=""
                        moz-do-not-send="true">vtiger.com</a> the access
                      to opensource download is almost hidden!</div>
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                    <div class="">Steve jobs said : <span
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                        rgb(16, 16, 16); background-color: rgb(255, 255,
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                        style="caret-color: rgb(16, 16, 16); color:
                        rgb(16, 16, 16); background-color: rgb(255, 255,
                        255);" class="">We have to let go of this notion
                        that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose." -
                        Steve Jobs, Macworld Expo Boston keynote, 1997</span></div>
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                    <div class=""><b class="">I think this quote can be
                        rewritten like this: vtiger open source doesn’t
                        have to suck so vtiger cloud can win, because we
                        can both win.</b></div>
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                  <div class="">This email is not just a way to complain
                    pointlessly, the objective is to invite vtiger
                    community and vtiger team to take action together!</div>
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                  <div class="">STEP 1:</div>
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                  <div class="">If you, vtiger team, don’t have time to
                    merge bug fixes, engage in conversations with vtiger
                    community on git, review and merge new
                    functionalities as fast as they come on git,</div>
                  <div class="">just let us do it, please.</div>
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                  <div class="">STEP 2:</div>
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                  <div class="">Vtiger community please submit on git
                    all bugs you want to get fixed, all the features you
                    think could help develop vtiger extending modules
                    instead of replacing vtiger modules, anything to
                    help closing the gap between vtiger open source and
                    its competitors.</div>
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                  <div class="">STEP 3:</div>
                  <div class="">vtiger community please help with
                    development of anything set in STEP 2, if I fix
                    something and you fix something else we both win,
                    it’s the same for new functionalities.</div>
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                  <div class="">So, @all what do you think?</div>
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                        <div class="">_______________<br class="">
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                          Angelo Paglialonga<br class="">
                          Consulente per soluzioni CRM ad alto ROI.<br
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                          Telefono: 3386077866<br class="">
                          Skype: angelo.paglialonga<br class="">
                          Web: <a
                            href="https://www.angelopaglialonga.com/"
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Vincenzo Bruno (cell. 328-7252923)
Coopyleft (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.vinsoft.it/coopyleft" moz-do-not-send="true">www.vinsoft.it/coopyleft</a>)
Digital Polis (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.digitalpolis.it/" moz-do-not-send="true">www.digitalpolis.it</a>)
Hacklab Cosenza (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.hlcs.it/" moz-do-not-send="true">www.hlcs.it</a>)
    
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Vincenzo Bruno (cell. 328-7252923)
Coopyleft (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.vinsoft.it/coopyleft">www.vinsoft.it/coopyleft</a>)
Digital Polis (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.digitalpolis.it">www.digitalpolis.it</a>)
Hacklab Cosenza (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.hlcs.it">www.hlcs.it</a>)
    
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