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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:28:05 +0530<br>
From: Uma S <<a href="mailto:uma.s@vtiger.com" target="_blank">uma.s@vtiger.com</a>><br>
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Dear Developer,<br>
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We are happy to accept more ideas from the community on what are the top 10<br>
wish enhancements for 7.4? So that we can make the release fruitful.<br>
<br>
I would request all the community members to take part in this to share<br>
their thoughts.<br>
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-- <br>
With<br>
Best Regards<br>
Uma.S<br>
Vtiger Team<br>
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 12:13:01 +0530<br>
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1. #1425, In workflows the Event start date time should support expressions<br>
2. Improve import routine #1484, #1483, #1427, #1386, #1172<br>
3. Login enhancements #1439, #1285 and support for SAML<br>
4. #1467, Status column in Campaigns should be configurable<br>
5. #1459 Make Overlays configurable<br>
6. #1457, Improvement to Tags<br>
7. Upgrade all dependent libraries<br>
8. #1387, #775 (3 years old)<br>
9. Text wrapping, Listview #1437, #1421, #1417, #1411, #1378<br>
10. Mobile module - #1325 to #1341<br>
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And all the usability and enhancement tagged issues!<br>
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:32 AM Uma S <<a href="mailto:uma.s@vtiger.com" target="_blank">uma.s@vtiger.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Dear Developer,<br>
><br>
> We are happy to accept more ideas from the community on what are the top<br>
> 10 wish enhancements for 7.4? So that we can make the release fruitful.<br>
><br>
> I would request all the community members to take part in this to share<br>
> their thoughts.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> With<br>
> Best Regards<br>
> Uma.S<br>
> Vtiger Team<br>
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:40:59 +0100<br>
From: Alan Lord <<a href="mailto:alanslists@gmail.com" target="_blank">alanslists@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Thanks for reaching out Uma,<br>
<br>
Here are some of my suggestions (not in any preferential order):<br>
<br>
1. Get vtiger up-to-date in terms of requirements for PHP etc. And then <br>
have a process/plan to keep it up-to-date, i.e. using unit tests, <br>
linters etc. FWIW, php7.3 ends active support in 2 months. 7.4 has been <br>
out for nearly a year already.<br>
<br>
2. Improve the server/rest APIs so they provide better information (i.e. <br>
optional user-level formatting of returned, data, see <br>
<a href="http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038853.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038853.html</a> <br>
and <br>
<a href="http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038838.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038838.html</a>). <br>
Maybe move the REST API to json format like vtiger cloud?<br>
<br>
3. Import the webhook workflow functionality from Cloud<br>
<br>
4. Add support to vtws_retrieve so any user can get "safe" information <br>
about _any_ other user. See #1155 and <br>
<a href="http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-April/038517.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-April/038517.html</a><br>
<br>
5. Fix #676, #1003 and try to remove that horrible hack <br>
vtlib_setup_modulevars(). All the necessary information should be in the <br>
respective modules' class file anyway. I really fail to see what the <br>
point of this is and it continues to cause problems.<br>
<br>
6. Code cleanup. There are multiple copies of the long and complex <br>
date/time structures such as in modules/Vtiger/models/Field.php line <br>
653, modules/Reports/ReportRun.php line 1740, modules/Reports/Report.php <br>
line 990, modules/CustomView/models/Record.php line 805, <br>
modules/CustomView/CustomView.php line 569... There are so many <br>
instances of code duplication (not just the above)... Put it all in ONE <br>
place, then there's only one place we have to fix later on.<br>
<br>
7. Fix filters so admins can remove/edit all of them and default landing <br>
when not "all": #706, #1461<br>
<br>
8. #1240<br>
<br>
9. See merge request #585 which added support for customising core <br>
language files. Please extend functionality in a way similar to my <br>
suggestion <br>
<a href="https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/merge_requests/585#note_8739" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/merge_requests/585#note_8739</a><br>
<br>
10. Update online documentation for the Open Source platform. It's not <br>
been changed for *ages*. (If you, vtiger don't have the bandwidth, then <br>
let us in the community have some level of access to the wiki or <br>
whatever and let us write some of it - you could have a moderator's role <br>
to approve/deny if you like).<br>
<br>
That should do for now ;-)<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Al<br>
<br>
On 11/09/2020 06:58, Uma S wrote:<br>
> Dear Developer,<br>
> <br>
> We are happy to accept more ideas from the community on what are the top <br>
> 10 wish enhancements for 7.4? So that we can make the release fruitful.<br>
> <br>
> I would request all the community members to take part in this to share <br>
> their thoughts.<br>
<br>
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 10:29:28 +0100<br>
From: Martin Allen <<a href="mailto:martin.allen@clystnet.com" target="_blank">martin.allen@clystnet.com</a>><br>
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These may be more appropriate as vTiger 8 aims but still:<br>
1) PHP compatibility - as Alan said PHP 7.4 compatibility should be a<br>
priority but also thinking about using PHP8 which is very close to being<br>
released.<br>
2) Dependent libraries using Composer to manage, this then handles all<br>
updates required, and easy to know which versions of libraries are being<br>
used and can be specified which version should be installed.<br>
3) PSR 12 (or even PSR 2!) coding style and PSR 4 autoloading (<br>
<a href="https://www.php-fig.org/psr/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.php-fig.org/psr/</a>)<br>
4) Installation via Composer?<br>
5) Update documentation<br>
6) Better logging of Errors and improved Error messages - most of the time<br>
we just see a blank screen, or a message that is very misleading e.g.<br>
"Something went wrong in a workflow" - would be much nicer if it told me<br>
which workflow! (Logging of errors by default as well, rather than having<br>
to actively switch it on!)<br>
7) Making the codebase suitable to be managed via GIT after installation to<br>
allow for customisations - currently the GIT repository on <a href="http://code.vtiger.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">code.vtiger.com</a><br>
contains multiple .zip files which are next to useless being managed in<br>
GIT. We maintain our own repository which is the code AFTER it has been<br>
installed, and fork that repository for every new installation we do. We<br>
also have created our own .gitignore (after MUCH trial and error!) so<br>
having a community version would be nice!<br>
8) CLI database migration scripts for creating / updating database between<br>
different versions<br>
<br>
Oh and all the outstanding bugs ;)<br>
<br>
Martin Allen<br>
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On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 09:41, Alan Lord <<a href="mailto:alanslists@gmail.com" target="_blank">alanslists@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Thanks for reaching out Uma,<br>
><br>
> Here are some of my suggestions (not in any preferential order):<br>
><br>
> 1. Get vtiger up-to-date in terms of requirements for PHP etc. And then<br>
> have a process/plan to keep it up-to-date, i.e. using unit tests,<br>
> linters etc. FWIW, php7.3 ends active support in 2 months. 7.4 has been<br>
> out for nearly a year already.<br>
><br>
> 2. Improve the server/rest APIs so they provide better information (i.e.<br>
> optional user-level formatting of returned, data, see<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038853.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038853.html</a><br>
> and<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038838.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038838.html</a>).<br>
><br>
> Maybe move the REST API to json format like vtiger cloud?<br>
><br>
> 3. Import the webhook workflow functionality from Cloud<br>
><br>
> 4. Add support to vtws_retrieve so any user can get "safe" information<br>
> about _any_ other user. See #1155 and<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-April/038517.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-April/038517.html</a><br>
><br>
> 5. Fix #676, #1003 and try to remove that horrible hack<br>
> vtlib_setup_modulevars(). All the necessary information should be in the<br>
> respective modules' class file anyway. I really fail to see what the<br>
> point of this is and it continues to cause problems.<br>
><br>
> 6. Code cleanup. There are multiple copies of the long and complex<br>
> date/time structures such as in modules/Vtiger/models/Field.php line<br>
> 653, modules/Reports/ReportRun.php line 1740, modules/Reports/Report.php<br>
> line 990, modules/CustomView/models/Record.php line 805,<br>
> modules/CustomView/CustomView.php line 569... There are so many<br>
> instances of code duplication (not just the above)... Put it all in ONE<br>
> place, then there's only one place we have to fix later on.<br>
><br>
> 7. Fix filters so admins can remove/edit all of them and default landing<br>
> when not "all": #706, #1461<br>
><br>
> 8. #1240<br>
><br>
> 9. See merge request #585 which added support for customising core<br>
> language files. Please extend functionality in a way similar to my<br>
> suggestion<br>
> <a href="https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/merge_requests/585#note_8739" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/merge_requests/585#note_8739</a><br>
><br>
> 10. Update online documentation for the Open Source platform. It's not<br>
> been changed for *ages*. (If you, vtiger don't have the bandwidth, then<br>
> let us in the community have some level of access to the wiki or<br>
> whatever and let us write some of it - you could have a moderator's role<br>
> to approve/deny if you like).<br>
><br>
> That should do for now ;-)<br>
><br>
> Cheers<br>
><br>
> Al<br>
><br>
> On 11/09/2020 06:58, Uma S wrote:<br>
> > Dear Developer,<br>
> ><br>
> > We are happy to accept more ideas from the community on what are the top<br>
> > 10 wish enhancements for 7.4? So that we can make the release fruitful.<br>
> ><br>
> > I would request all the community members to take part in this to share<br>
> > their thoughts.<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
><br>
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