<div dir="ltr">Thanks Chris!<div><br></div><div>@Developers: Thanks for really releasing Version 7. I don't expect this.</div><div><br></div><div>In my eyes the Open Source(!) VtigerCRM is the best "really usable" OpenSource CRM, which is based on PHP. (Yeti is go a confusing fast development and Suite have too confusing layout.) Java/Python based software play in another league, because it cannot installed everywhere. </div><div>With the new layout vtiger also looks as good as other software.</div><div><br></div><div>The other side:</div><div>The VtigerCRM OnDemand Version is the worst solution I know, because it lacks the Extensions, a Free versions will generate and which other CRM systems do have. </div><div><br></div><div>So I don't lost the hope to get a better solution in near future.</div><div>I cannot imagine, the OnDemand is selling enough or the developers are happy with it, because other paid software provide more features for an equal price.<br></div><div><br></div><div>So the real strength of vtiger is the OpenSource version, which is a complete basic CRM, but full featured and not virtually limited.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm happy with the Version 7, because it provide a good base for developments. </div><div>(Maybe some bugs should solved, but this is like in any first version of a new major version, also in other software. Called "Banana-system". Not good, but not focused only on vtiger.)</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Stefan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br><span style="font-size:x-small">--</span><span style="font-size:x-small">--</span><br><b><font size="1">Freelancer@Webdevelopment</font></b><br><br><font size="1">Web: </font><a href="http://www.stefanwarnat.de" style="font-size:x-small" target="_blank">http://www.stefanwarnat.de</a><br><font size="1">Xing: </font><a href="https://www.xing.com/profile/Stefan_Warnat2" style="font-size:x-small" target="_blank">https://www.xing.com/profile/Stefan_Warnat2</a><br><font size="1">LinkedIn: </font><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/stefan-warnat/6/827/820" style="font-size:x-small" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/pub/stefan-warnat/6/827/820</a><br><font size="1">eMail: <a href="mailto:kontakt@stefanwarnat.de" target="_blank">kontakt@stefanwarnat.de</a></font><br><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:47 AM, socialboostdk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:socialboostdk@gmail.com" target="_blank">socialboostdk@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I agree.<div><br></div><div>I agree that the VT approach is sub-optimal (and almost irritating), but i fail to see how SuiteCRM is an alternative. Also, I do think its a little "noisy" to keep on talking about VT alternatives on this list (first Yeti, now Suite) because basically the reason people are here IS because of VT. Despite all it is lacking.</div><div><br></div><div>Just my 5c.</div><div><br></div><div>/Chris</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 May 2017 at 09:09, IT-Solutions4You <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:info@its4you.sk" target="_blank">info@its4you.sk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Sorry, but SuiteCRM ?<br>
<br>
I have chcek demo and this layout is terrible for me and I'm really lost in this system.<br>
<br>
<br>
Matus<br>
<br>
Dňa 24. 5. 2017 o 18:28 Doug napísal(a):<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
Hmmm. At this point planning on telling clients either:<br>
1) Now is a good time to Migrate to SuiteCRM<br>
2) 7.0 is actually a Release Candidate<br>
<br>
Doug<br>
<br>
<br>
S/V Kerberos Corsair 28R #100<br>
Welcome to the dark side... We have cookies.<br>
<br>
<br></span><span>
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:15 PM, IT-Solutions4You <<a href="mailto:info@its4you.sk" target="_blank">info@its4you.sk</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:info@its4you.sk" target="_blank">info@its4you.sk</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
So, we have all to tell our Clients that there is a new 7.0.0<br>
version but don't use it (this version is only joke) and wait for<br>
7.0.1 ? You think is really easy to communicate with clients this way ?<br>
<br>
Matus.<br>
<br>
<br>
Dňa 24. 5. 2017 o 8:48 Satish Dvnk napísal(a):<br>
<br>
Hi All,<br>
<br>
We believe that we had fixed all the blocker issues reported by<br>
community. If you feel we slipped any of blockers please bring<br>
to our notice so that we can proceed for a patch(7.0.1).<br>
<br>
Currently we are taking all the feedback from our community and<br>
will schedule for 7.0.1<br>
<br>
*regards,<br>
Satish.Dvnk*<br>
<br>
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Doug<br>
<<a href="mailto:sailsfast@gmail.com" target="_blank">sailsfast@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:sailsfast@gmail.com" target="_blank">sailsfast@gmail.com</a>><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:sailsfast@gmail.com" target="_blank">sailsfast@gmail.com</a><span><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:sailsfast@gmail.com" target="_blank">sailsfast@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Unfortunately the Yetti guy is a different problem. I'm moving<br>
people to SuiteCRM as it makes sense. Suite is also a<br>
sugar derivative<br>
<br>
On May 23, 2017 8:05 PM, "Tony Sandman"<br>
<<a href="mailto:tonysandman999@gmail.com" target="_blank">tonysandman999@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tonysandman999@gmail.com" target="_blank">tonysandman999@gmail.c<wbr>om</a>><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tonysandman999@gmail.com" target="_blank">tonysandman999@gmail.<wbr>com</a><span><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tonysandman999@gmail.com" target="_blank">tonysandman999@gmail.c<wbr>om</a>>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
@lajeesh - you seems to have a very specific sense of<br>
humor.... :-)<br>
<br>
As it was said before by many guys, this seems to be<br>
only kind<br>
of carrot and marketing<br>
thing. Funny thing actually, but also scary,<br>
I wish collaboration model with yetiforce will be<br>
fairly set, so<br>
we at least have a base to move over it.<br>
But even there is not easy...<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 4:21 AM, Manuel<br>
<<a href="mailto:ptdesigner@gmail.com" target="_blank">ptdesigner@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:ptdesigner@gmail.com" target="_blank">ptdesigner@gmail.com</a>><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:ptdesigner@gmail.com" target="_blank">ptdesigner@gmail.com</a><span><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:ptdesigner@gmail.com" target="_blank">ptdesigner@gmail.com</a>>><wbr>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I can tell you one,<br>
><br>
> A non admin user can mess with all system if goes<br>
into Module<br>
Mobile.<br>
><br>
> More detailed explanation is not possible due to the<br>
fact<br>
that some systems are going live and will be vulnerable.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Best Regards.<br>
><br>
> Manuel<br>
><br>
> No dia 23/05/2017, às 17:40, Conrado Maggi<br>
<<a href="mailto:comaggi@gmail.com" target="_blank">comaggi@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:comaggi@gmail.com" target="_blank">comaggi@gmail.com</a>><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:comaggi@gmail.com" target="_blank">comaggi@gmail.com</a><span><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:comaggi@gmail.com" target="_blank">comaggi@gmail.com</a>>>> escreveu:<br>
><br>
> Just curious, which are the blockers?<br>
><br>
> About missing features, vt7 is vtiger 6.5 with a<br>
nicer theme<br>
I don't think you will find more features in 6 than 7.<br>
But maybe<br>
I am wrong<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> El El mar, 23 may 2017 a las 18:34, Doug<br>
<<a href="mailto:sailsfast@gmail.com" target="_blank">sailsfast@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:sailsfast@gmail.com" target="_blank">sailsfast@gmail.com</a>><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:sailsfast@gmail.com" target="_blank">sailsfast@gmail.com</a><span><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:sailsfast@gmail.com" target="_blank">sailsfast@gmail.com</a>>>><br>
escribió:<br>
>><br>
>> There is a difference between a release with bugs<br>
and one<br>
with blockers, basic functionality not working, etc.<br>
>><br>
>> On May 23, 2017 12:27 PM, "Conrado Maggi"<br>
<<a href="mailto:comaggi@gmail.com" target="_blank">comaggi@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:comaggi@gmail.com" target="_blank">comaggi@gmail.com</a>><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:comaggi@gmail.com" target="_blank">comaggi@gmail.com</a><span><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:comaggi@gmail.com" target="_blank">comaggi@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I agree with a Chris, no release ever is bug free.<br>
I agree<br>
that now that is out there the bug reporting and<br>
fixing will<br>
move faster<br>
>>><br>
>>> About that iOS bug I submitted a merge request and<br>
it's fix<br>
in the released version. Same thing with modules<br>
updates that<br>
was broken<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Conrado<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> El El mar, 23 may 2017 a las 17:12, Chris Thompson<br>
<<a href="mailto:cthompson@moderas.org" target="_blank">cthompson@moderas.org</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:cthompson@moderas.org" target="_blank">cthompson@moderas.org</a>><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:cthompson@moderas.org" target="_blank">cthompson@moderas.org</a><div><div class="m_-7440805642808841752h5"><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:cthompson@moderas.org" target="_blank">cthompson@moderas.org</a>><wbr>>><br>
escribió:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I'm torn. If you wait for all the bugs to be<br>
fixed we may<br>
never see a<br>
>>>> release. I'm hopeful the release will shine a<br>
light on<br>
the things that need<br>
>>>> to be resolved and as we all are looking at<br>
adoption we<br>
may uncover even<br>
>>>> more. In a perfect world all bugs would be<br>
eliminated but<br>
I have to be<br>
>>>> honest, I don't recall a bug free release of any<br>
product<br>
ever. Now in<br>
>>>> fairness this sounds a bit buggier than most are<br>
comfortable with, I mean I<br>
>>>> heard the other day it doesn't work on iOS<br>
platforms and<br>
that's pretty maj.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>>> From:<br>
<a href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com" target="_blank">vtigercrm-developers-bounces@l<wbr>ists.vtigercrm.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com" target="_blank">vtigercrm-developers-b<wbr>ounces@lists.vtigercrm.com</a>><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com" target="_blank">vtigercrm-developers-b<wbr>ounces@lists.vtigercrm.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com" target="_blank">vtigercrm-developers-b<wbr>ounces@lists.vtigercrm.com</a>>><br>
>>>><br></div></div>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com" target="_blank">vtigercrm-developers-b<wbr>ounces@lists.vtigercrm.com</a><span><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com" target="_blank">vtigercrm-developers-b<wbr>ounces@lists.vtigercrm.com</a>><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com" target="_blank">vtigercrm-developers-b<wbr>ounces@lists.vtigercrm.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com" target="_blank">vtigercrm-developers-b<wbr>ounces@lists.vtigercrm.com</a>>>]<br>
On Behalf Of Alan<br>
>>>> Lord<br>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:40 AM<br>
>>>> To:<br>
<a href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com" target="_blank">vtigercrm-developers@lists.vti<wbr>gercrm.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com" target="_blank">vtigercrm-developers@l<wbr>ists.vtigercrm.com</a>><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com" target="_blank">vtigercrm-developers@<wbr>lists.vtigercrm.com</a><span><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com" target="_blank">vtigercrm-developers@l<wbr>ists.vtigercrm.com</a>>><br>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Vtiger 7.0.0<br>
Published<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> It isn't ready.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Why release it with so many open bugs?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Al<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On 23/05/17 15:26, Satish Dvnk wrote:<br>
>>>> > Hi Developers,<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > With the help of your contributions we moved<br>
ahead. Now<br>
we are happy<br>
>>>> > to announce that we have published Vtiger Open<br>
Source<br>
7.0.0 in<br>
>>>> > <a href="http://sourceforge.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sourceforge.net</a> <<a href="http://sourceforge.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net</a>><br>
<<a href="http://sourceforge.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net</a>><br>
<<a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/vtigercrm/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sourceforge.net/proj<wbr>ects/vtigercrm/</a><br>
<<a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/vtigercrm/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sourceforge.net/proje<wbr>cts/vtigercrm/</a>><br>
<<a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/vtigercrm/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sourceforge.net/proj<wbr>ects/vtigercrm/</a><br>
<<a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/vtigercrm/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sourceforge.net/proje<wbr>cts/vtigercrm/</a>>>> and<br></span>
>>>> > <a href="http://vtiger.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">vtiger.com</a> <<a href="http://vtiger.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://vtiger.com</a>> <<a href="http://vtiger.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://vtiger.com</a>><div><div class="m_-7440805642808841752h5"><br>
>>>> ><br>
<<a href="https://www.vtiger.com/open-source-crm/download-open-source/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.vtiger.com/open-s<wbr>ource-crm/download-open-source<wbr>/</a><br>
<<a href="https://www.vtiger.com/open-source-crm/download-open-source/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.vtiger.com/open-s<wbr>ource-crm/download-open-source<wbr>/</a>><br>
<<a href="https://www.vtiger.com/open-source-crm/download-open-source/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.vtiger.com/open-s<wbr>ource-crm/download-open-source<wbr>/</a><br>
<<a href="https://www.vtiger.com/open-source-crm/download-open-source/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.vtiger.com/open-s<wbr>ource-crm/download-open-source<wbr>/</a>>>><br>
website.<br>
>>>> > We are pleased with your efforts and happy to<br>
share the<br>
news in our<br>
>>>> > developer forum.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Please review and update your extension for our V7.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > *regards,<br>
>>>> > Satish.Dvnk*<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>>> > <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>><br>
>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
><br>
> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
<br>
_____________________________<wbr>__________________<br>
<a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
_____________________________<wbr>__________________<br>
<a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
<a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
<a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
<a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote>
<br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
<a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div>
<br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
<a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div>