<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="tw-swapa"><div class="_wYb"></div></div><div class="_Ejb"><div id="tw-target" class=""><div class="tw-ta-container tw-nfl" id="tw-target-text-container"><pre dir="ltr" data-fulltext="" class="tw-ta vk_txt tw-text-small tw-data-text" data-placeholder="Tradução" id="tw-target-text" style="height: 96px;">Well, I speak for myself. I will be happy to contribute to this project for a native app android first (i’m more comfortable with)</pre></div></div></div><div class="">Best Regards.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Manuel</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">No dia 09/05/2016, às 10:33, Simone Travaglini <<a href="mailto:simonetravaglini@gmail.com" class="">simonetravaglini@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi to all.<div class="">I want make a consideration: most of people of vtiger community are not satisfied with vtiger team becouse is not sharing new feaure. But when I asked if someone want invest in creating a community app not a big number of "yes, i'm ready to invest". ;)</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">2016-05-05 14:20 GMT+02:00 Simone Travaglini <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:simonetravaglini@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">simonetravaglini@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">I agree:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> point1 is already done from myc template.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Point 2 is the real challange and is related to UX </div></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">2016-05-05 14:13 GMT+02:00 Sutharsan Jeganathan <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:ajstharsan@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">ajstharsan@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi <br class=""><br class=""></div>I might be confusing. Are we discussing about<br class=""><br class=""></div>1. Using CRM in Mobile?<br class=""></div>Or<br class=""></div>2. Consuming CRM elements in Mobile?<br class=""><br class=""></div>First is already almost done through commercial providers (Such as MYC), but remaining to community.<br class=""><br class=""></div>I am talking about 2nd option. Good example, using Facebook vs using Fb mobile app.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div>Thanks<br class=""></div>Sutharsan Jeganathan<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""><div class="">On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Simone Travaglini <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:simonetravaglini@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">simonetravaglini@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I don't know technically what is the best solution, but I think we have to focus on customer (user) perspective. UX have to drive us in choise. I think that use a CRM in desktop and in Mobile have big difference. So I think that a responsive template is a good solution (we give MYC template to all our customers!) but app could be an important improvement if done in the right way. App is not only for data consultation (in this case responsive is enought I think), but think about order entry, or other flow that are tipical of mobile use. App could give a better UX to vendors, or support team.<div class="">So my proposal is to discuss first of all what are the main task an flow to manage in mobility?</div><div class="">Then for technically resolution I want to hear more expert opinion!</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">2016-05-05 12:51 GMT+02:00 Sutharsan Jeganathan <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:ajstharsan@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">ajstharsan@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi Alan<br class=""><br class=""></div>So you say that all those features will be implemented in the CRM itself with Responsive template?<br class=""><br class=""></div><p class="">I know all those can be done through a web application. But I feel the vtiger it self is already complex and huge enough.</p><p class="">What about the performance factor comparing mobile browser versus mobile app<br class=""></p>How about usability compare to native elements versus web elements<p class="">In an architecture perspective I would like a segmentation of mobile and backend(CRM).</p><p class="">(Example, customer portal)<br class=""></p><p class=""> Front-end complexity is another factor when all features sitting in the same app. We have to consider multi browser support here.<br class=""></p><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="">I feel there is a need of a different conceptual model to mobile app to CRM, while appreciating responsive templates to satisfy basic needs.<br class=""></p><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=""><br class=""></p><p class="">Thanks</p><p class="">Sutharsan Jeganathan<br class=""></p><p class=""><br class=""></p></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""><div class="">On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Alan Bell <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:alan.bell@libertus.co.uk" target="_blank" class="">alan.bell@libertus.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class="">
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not necessarily, there are notifications<br class="">
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and platform specific push notifications through various means. You
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nope, that should work fine with getusermedia
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huh? what would you do with voice? you can get audio, but I am not
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We have used those in different apps such as barcode scanner
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two cents, definitely no time to contribute in a big way
currently but... I have to say that I don't see the point in
apps any more for accessing websites. I would much rather
see a good responsive template developed possibly using html
5 to allow some work to be done without a connection, though
this is also not really that useful in todays
perma-connected world.<br class="">
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Whatever happens, a better way to work with vtiger across a
wider range of devices would be brilliant.<br class="">
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Hi Simone & Alan<br class="">
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The community app is essential. I have few concerns
choosing the<br class="">
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1. Native<br class="">
2. Non-native (Cordova)<br class="">
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We are currently working with Cordova usign Ionic
framework + Angular.<br class="">
Non-native means, it is developed using pure HTML5, CSS +
Javascript<br class="">
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1. Ionic (Developer should understood Angular)<br class="">
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1. Native : Comparably faster, using Native elements,
such as IOs Tabs<br class="">
and freedom of system calls<br class="">
2. Non-native : Anyone with HTML5 + Javascript can
contribute. Cross<br class="">
platform development is easier (Ios and Android only
warranted)<br class="">
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2016-05-04 12:40 GMT+02:00 Alan Bell <<a href="mailto:alan.bell@libertus.co.uk" target="_blank" class=""></a><a href="mailto:alan.bell@libertus.co.uk" target="_blank" class="">alan.bell@libertus.co.uk</a>>:<br class="">
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to be clear, you are talking about a mobile thing for
phones and tablets?<br class="">
Personally I think that the way forward is a really
really good fluid<br class="">
layout HTML5 interface, including offline ability,
which would work cross<br class="">
platform on iOS/Android and Ubuntu Touch.<br class="">
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Alan.<br class="">
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On 04/05/16 11:33, Simone Travaglini wrote:<br class="">
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Hi to all,<br class="">
I think app for open source version is a need for most
of us.<br class="">
So I want ask:<br class="">
1 - to Vtiger: if an open source app will be relased
or if you plan to<br class="">
relase closed app and when<br class="">
2 - to community: if there is an interest in a large
collaboration of<br class="">
community to create an open source app project. Could
be an opportunity to<br class="">
make community live and share effort to a common goal.<br class="">
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