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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/02/16 13:19, John Crisp wrote:<br>
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Yes I understand the business mechanics of it. (I'm not a tech guy
at
all really)
Posting different extensions at different prices is no judge
really.
Yes, same product at differing price points may help.</blockquote>
yeah, but we can't do that, the marketplace is what it is.<br>
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I also understand from your point of view that you might as sell
one at
100 instead of 10 at 10... once you multiply it up you have to do
an
awful lot more sales to make the same margin. 10 at 100 versus 100
at
10. That's a lot more work for you in support etc.
Our own business works the same way - yes we can drop prices, but
it
just is not worth it as we would have to up our turnover massively
just
to stand still.
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the evidence we have suggests that we wouldn't get more sales by
dropping the prices at the moment, I think if you are selling 10 per
month at $100 then dropped the price to $10 I think you would still
sell 10 per month as there is nobody failing to purchase because of
the price, it just isn't like a phone app market where there are
millions of users doing price-sensitive impulse buys. If you have
data to suggest that low prices would give large volumes in the
vtiger store then I would certainly be interested in it.<br>
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<pre wrap="">We also had a look around the Sugar and SalesForce app exchanges, there
are quite a few Sugar things in the 1000 region and a lot of the
SalesForce extensions are around 10 per month per user or 500 per month
per instance.
It all kind of depends on what they do, but in general I don't think
€100 as an unlimited users, pay-once price is likely to be harmfully
overpriced.
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It really depends on how many users you have..... In my case only 5
currently. And pay once ? For every future version of vtiger ? I guess
not......</pre>
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yes, it appears that this is the way the marketplace works, pay
once, get upgrades. I am not sure if it is possible to do something
with the manifest to have multiple versions of an extension in the
marketplace that are valid for different versions of vtiger. I think
it is basically pay once, it works forever. (or until something
breaks and the developer doesn't release an update).<br>
What I would actually like to see is pay once, support lasts for a
year, then you can pay again if you want to get another year of
support, and something in the marketplace console to indicate
whether people are current on support, but failing that pay once and
works forever is fine by me.<br>
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No, it isn't a big expense per se (and I don't know whether you price
differently for different parts of the world as that can make a big
difference for some), but if I wanted 3 or 4 modules.... that can be a
lot per head in a small company where every penny counts.</pre>
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we can't price differently for different parts of the world in the
marketplace (not sure I would want to really)<br>
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You then have to start questioning the value of the product.
I am sure most companies that vTiger have a much larger user base
and that is your target market, so us little fish have to make a choice.
(Note that I am quite happy to pay for support for OS products when
required. Part and parcel of OS, and running a business)
What makes a difference is that if I upgrade from 5.4 to 6 I instantly
have to pay for various things that were effectively free before. That's
a turn off for a start.</pre>
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yeah, and there are some modules that really should be core
functionality, for example report charts used to be available as
home page widgets, but that feature has gone and there are some
modules that bring it back. I am quite tempted to code up the
required widget and just submit it to code.vtiger.com rather than
try and sell that one. You can always contribute stuff to core, but
some things wouldn't be accepted as a general purpose extension.
Some things like encrypted portal passwords just need to be there as
standard so that is something we are working on getting into the
core. Others like the geotools maps extension are new extended
chunks of functionality that some people have a use for and work
well as paid extensions.<br>
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Paying for extra/new items - fine. But you get the feeling that as a
little fish you have been thrown on the spear of corporate profit, and
that doesn't feel very good - you just feel like a commodity to monetise.
I'm sure a lot of vTiger users left Sugar for this reason. vTiger just
feels like it is heading back to become just another Sugar.
B. Rgds
John
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