<div dir="ltr">sure - updated <a href="http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/8068">http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/8068</a><div><br></div><div>thanks,<br></div><div>Prasad</div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Please check your license file (License_linux.txt): points:<div><ul><li>MagpieRSS<br></li><li>phpSysinfo<br></li><li>Mailfeed<br></li><li>NOCC scripts<br></li></ul><div>&</div><ul><li>libraries\tcpdf\fonts\freefont\README</li>
<li>Hu lang in ckeditor</li></ul></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div><div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div><div>M: +48.884999123<br>E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a></div>
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1. Re: Licensing issues with GPL (was sharing realworld test)<br>
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From: Prasad <<a href="mailto:prasad@vtiger.com" target="_blank">prasad@vtiger.com</a>><br>
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On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Prasad <<a href="mailto:prasad@vtiger.com" target="_blank">prasad@vtiger.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> If GPL owner doesn't grant liberty over license - we have less option than<br>
> to drop it.<br>
> I assume your lang-pack is less restrictive - please clarify.<br>
><br>
> We will move to less-restrictive libraries and then be more selective<br>
> with integration + licensing.<br>
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> Regards,<br>
> Prasad<br>
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> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Pabiszczak, B?a?ej <<br>
> <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>> wrote:<br>
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>><br>
>> 1.<br>
>> <a href="http://trac.vtiger.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/6.1.0/libraries/magpierss/rss_cache.inc" target="_blank">http://trac.vtiger.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/6.1.0/libraries/magpierss/rss_cache.inc</a> (and<br>
>> releated files)<br>
>> 2. FreeFont use GPL<br>
>> 3. Our Lang Pack have GPL.<br>
>> 4. etc.<br>
>><br>
>> Z powa?aniem / Regards<br>
>> B?a?ej Pabiszczak<br>
>> M: +48.884999123<br>
>> E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2014-05-22 10:37 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a>>:<br>
>><br>
>>> Prasad is correct. TCPDF is LGPL and, thus, it is not in conflict. In<br>
>>> that case I would say that the only GPL library present is AjaxLoader<br>
>>> (qqUploader) in MailManager. So it should be rather easy to get rid of that<br>
>>> dependency.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 22/05/14 10:26, Joe Bordes wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Yes, vtiger already uses other libraries, and they SHOULD get rid of<br>
>>> them, it is incorrect. The thing is that unless you hit onto something like<br>
>>> facebook, nobody comes asking. If/When vtiger hits onto a gold mine,<br>
>>> somebody will call a lawyer, in the mean time, you just keep trying to make<br>
>>> a living...<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 22/05/14 10:19, Pabiszczak, B?a?ej wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> We create 4 module (OSS Mail) and only first module have GPL license,<br>
>>> other tools dont use roudcube (other licenses). Vtiger use many libraries<br>
>>> like TCPDF on GNU licenses.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Z powa?aniem / Regards<br>
>>> B?a?ej Pabiszczak<br>
>>> M: +48.884999123<br>
>>> E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> 2014-05-22 9:59 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a>>:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Correct. In fact you would see yourself forced to change the license<br>
>>>> on the whole product and make it GPL. In fact that is what may be happening<br>
>>>> to your own integrated roundcube extension....<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Another option would be that vtiger changed the license to support dual<br>
>>>> licensing, then, with a LOT of care and conditions, you could have both<br>
>>>> together. It is a REALLY tricky thing and I think vtiger does correctly in<br>
>>>> staying away from the problems, albeit the inconveniences....<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On 22/05/14 09:24, Matteo Baranzoni wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I think GPL it's not compatible with VPL....<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2014-05-22 9:18 GMT+02:00 Pabiszczak, B?a?ej <<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>><br>
>>>> :<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> And what is the problem?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Z powa?aniem / Regards<br>
>>>>> B?a?ej Pabiszczak<br>
>>>>> M: +48.884999123<br>
>>>>> E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> 2014-05-22 4:42 GMT+02:00 Prasad <<a href="mailto:prasad@vtiger.com" target="_blank">prasad@vtiger.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> RoundCube is under GPL License which is strict to grow OpenSource.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Regards,<br>
>>>>>> Prasad<br>
>>>>>><br>
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>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Pabiszczak, B?a?ej <<br>
>>>>>> <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Poorly you did, that you wrote your own email client. Why did not<br>
>>>>>>> you use roundcube?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Z powa?aniem / Regards<br>
>>>>>>> B?a?ej Pabiszczak<br>
>>>>>>> M: +48.884999123<br>
>>>>>>> E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 2014-05-21 6:20 GMT+02:00 Prasad <<a href="mailto:prasad@vtiger.com" target="_blank">prasad@vtiger.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> B?a?ej,<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Contributions welcome.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>>>>> *I* Blog <<a href="https://blogs.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">https://blogs.vtiger.com/</a>>* I* Wiki<<a href="http://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Main_Page" target="_blank">http://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Main_Page</a>><br>
>>>>>>>> *I *Forums <<a href="https://discussions.vtiger.com" target="_blank">https://discussions.vtiger.com</a>>*I* Website<<a href="https://www.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">https://www.vtiger.com/</a>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Pabiszczak, B?a?ej <<br>
>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> The problem is that you do not use the mail module, so you do not<br>
>>>>>>>>> know how it works.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Z powa?aniem / Regards<br>
>>>>>>>>> B?a?ej Pabiszczak<br>
>>>>>>>>> M: +48.884999123<br>
>>>>>>>>> E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> 2014-05-20 16:12 GMT+02:00 Prasad <<a href="mailto:prasad@vtiger.com" target="_blank">prasad@vtiger.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Bastiaan,<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for sharing the feedback - its always different to<br>
>>>>>>>>>> think like customer than developer.<br>
>>>>>>>>>> UX plays a vital role and one of the key reasons why Vtiger 6<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Platform was built for.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> We will continue to improve usability.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> *Connect with us on: *Twitter <<a href="http://twitter.com/vtigercrm" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/vtigercrm</a>> *I*<br>
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>>>>>>>>>> *I* Blog <<a href="https://blogs.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">https://blogs.vtiger.com/</a>>* I* Wiki<<a href="http://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Main_Page" target="_blank">http://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Main_Page</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> *I *Forums <<a href="https://discussions.vtiger.com" target="_blank">https://discussions.vtiger.com</a>>*I* Website<<a href="https://www.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">https://www.vtiger.com/</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Zebra Hosting <<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:support@zebrahosting.eu" target="_blank">support@zebrahosting.eu</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just sharing a little test I did with secretary who is doing<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> some customer contact and never worked with a CRM.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> I asked her to open the mail manager and answer emails like<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> she normally does. (IMAP connected)<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> First thing she tried was open en email and looking for ways to<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> move it to a folder (not possible in open mail)<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then closed the mail, tried to drag it over to a folder (drag<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> and drop not supported)<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then saw that she first have to click the checkbox, open a drop<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> down and select a folder.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 steps and she gave up and went back to her mail client.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn?t work when you do hundreds of mails a day.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> People get used to modern GUI?s with HTML5, might be time to<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> think about if for the next version.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> So yes, it is sometimes good, not to think like a developer<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> but just see normal user working to learn about your GUI?..<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bastiaan Houtkooper<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Zebra Hosting<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Un saludo<br>
>>> Joe<br>
>>> TSolucio<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Un saludo<br>
>>> Joe<br>
>>> TSolucio<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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