<div dir="ltr">The worst is that effort of community members is transferred to vtiger commercial version. I watching many track bugs and improvements like change logic in operating in lists, enhancements to related lists, workflows for documents etc. If this improvements will not be included in oncoming version I leaving vtiger and joining fork to vtiger 6 which is about to incorporate. I would stress guys from vtiger that they will loose a lot not making equal open source and their on-demand version. It is coming from marketing knowledge and experience. You can get more interest from the bank leaving there more money. This rule applies to vtiger team and open source perfectly.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">If Vtiger will continue to ignore the community, we will stop to speak.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<div class=""><br clear="all"><div><div><br></div><div><div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div><div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div>
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<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2014-04-25 1:16 GMT+02:00 Manuel Fernando <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ptdesigner@gmail.com" target="_blank">ptdesigner@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="auto"><div><span>Hello, </span><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Jonathan SARDO</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>I have to say that you was right about problems not being fixed even after lots of reports.</span></div>
<div><br></div><div><span>Do you guys know that last source os vtiger 6 its not possible to complete the install?</span></div><div><span>I report that a few weeka ago and still no answer or fix.</span></div><div><span><br>
</span></div><div><span>The report ignored:</span></div><div><a href="http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/7994" target="_blank">http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/7994</a></div><div>Same about the impossibility to recover password here:</div>
<div><a href="http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/8002" target="_blank">http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/8002</a></div><div>Another basic bug related to the installation fileld last name "Administrator"</div>
<div><a href="http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/7974" target="_blank">http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/7974</a></div><div><br></div><div>Do you vtiger team think that this is not important to correct? I think its a big mistake not to fix quickly those basic bugs.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Its a shame, not correct things that will allow people to test and report bugs.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div><div><br><br></div><div><br>No dia 01/03/2014, às 04:44, Prasad <<a href="mailto:prasad@vtiger.com" target="_blank">prasad@vtiger.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hope you noticed, o<font face="arial, sans-serif">ur next development branch commits are pushed to </font><a href="http://trac.vtiger.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/6.1.0/" style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">6.1.0</a><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">.</span><br>
</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Regards,</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Prasad</span></div></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Manuel Fernando <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ptdesigner@gmail.com" target="_blank">ptdesigner@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Yes, they did some bad moves.<div><br></div><div>Moves that maybe weren’t recommended to do at this time of the stability of vTiger6.</div><div>With this they are creating a separation of the community.</div>
<div><br></div><div>But i still believe it’s all related to money and time. </div><div>If they make money they can improve tiger with new functionalities “higher level” - (less time for community)</div><div>Because they don’t have time, it´s impossible to separate version paid from version free, so, the easiest way is to remove functionalities from the free version.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Maybe they shouldn’t released community vtiger6 before they have the paid version at level 7. And then they could provide a community vtiger6 very stable.</div><div>Do you agree with me?</div><div><br>
</div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Manuel</div><div><div><br><div><div>No dia 28/02/2014, às 22:52, Jonathan Sardo <<a href="mailto:sardoj@gmail.com" target="_blank">sardoj@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:</div><br>
<blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div dir="ltr">I am agree with you,<div><br></div><div>Business is business. It is normal to offer in $ version more modules (even if it is possible to earn money differently thanks to a Marketplace - like Prestashop).</div>
<div>There are a lot of ways to earn money with Open Source solution, but the first point is to federate the community.<br></div><div><br></div><div>And I am agree that a lot of people use this mailing list only to speak about problems but almost never to give concrete solutions to improve the system.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I like very much Vtiger 6.0.0. It is a very good solution and I hope I would be able to contribute again with other Open Source modules.</div><div>But I think it is not good for the brand image to not fix bugs already fixed in the $ version.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Regards,</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<div><br></div><div><div><font color="#666666">Jonathan SARDO</font></div><div></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">Tél. <a value="+33699455047" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">06 99 45 50 47</a></span></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-02-28 23:18 GMT+01:00 Manuel Fernando <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ptdesigner@gmail.com" target="_blank">ptdesigner@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Ok,<div><br></div><div>i understand that as well but in my point of view, sorry but business is business.</div><div>If you provide a free service to your clientes, doesn’t mean that you have to offer ill funcionalities otherwise</div>
<div>they don’t need to buy other or the same complete service from you.</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry if i was misunderstood about what i said. I meant in my previous post for the group of people that don’t even bother to read some and learn how tiger works.</div>
<div>They just want to download and make money providing their clients vtiger.</div><div><br></div><div>I know some of you are very evolved and contribute a lot for this project and do great things for all.</div><div> </div>
<div>By the way, Thanks for ModuleDesigner.</div><div><br></div><div>Manuel</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>No dia 28/02/2014, às 18:02, Jonathan Sardo <<a href="mailto:sardoj@gmail.com" target="_blank">sardoj@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div dir="ltr">Manuel,<div><br></div><div>You're right. But why the Open Source Version is different than the $ version?</div><div>Why several bugs are fixed in the $ version and not in the Open Source version?</div>
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Why it is not possible to make pull requests to improve Vtiger?</div><div>Why it does not exist a real Vtiger community?</div><div>....<br></div><div><br></div><div>It is very great to offer a Open Source solution (thank you very much Vtiger team), but I think we have all to play the game in this sense.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><div><span style="font-size:12.727272033691406px">Regards,</span><br>
</div><div><br></div><div><div><font color="#666666">Jonathan SARDO</font></div><div></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"><br></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-02-28 16:42 GMT+01:00 Manuel Fernando <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ptdesigner@gmail.com" target="_blank">ptdesigner@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Take your time guys.<div><br></div><div>I don’t understand why people are complaining about.</div><div>Vtiger as a lot of potential and before tiger v5.4 get’s 5.4 it passed from all versions before.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Do you guys complain about release datas and etc just think this:</div><div><br></div><div>Do you know ios7 for apple?</div><div>do you think io7 came out perfect?</div><div>do you think nest release iOS 7.1 will be perfect?</div>
<div>Do they give estimate datas about bugs fix?</div><div><br></div><div>No no no no and you all still love apple products, don´t you. I love at least as vTiger</div><div><br></div><div>Congratulations vTiger Team</div>
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<br></div><div>Bustercom</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>No dia 28/02/2014, às 15:29, Sreenivas Kanumuru <<a href="mailto:svk@vtiger.com" target="_blank">svk@vtiger.com</a>> escreveu:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">
<div><div dir="ltr">Hi Mariusz,<div><br></div><div>6.1 should be released by July, if things go per plan.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Sreenivas</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Siam Translations LLP <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:info@siam-translations.com" target="_blank">info@siam-translations.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I hope when all trac issues will be closed - fixed :-)<br>
Guys said Q3 or Q4... so it could be xmas too<br>
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On 2014-02-28 21:04, Mariusz Krzaczkowski wrote:<br>
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Hi <br>
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When version 6.1 will be released?<br>
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Yes - hopefully in 6.1.0 version.<br>
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