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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">You have to be careful with this.
Although most of the world works on "bona fides", not everybody
does and you could have problems or pass on problems to somebody.<br>
<br>
For example, in Europe legislation (and US and probably the
majority of the planet) if you do not say anything about your
license, and do not license your creation, by default your
intellectual property rights are COMPLETE, that means that it is
distributed under the most restrictive copyright distribution of
all; nobody can touch the code.<br>
<br>
IANAL, but I would really recommend you do not create yourself a
license, use one of the many that already exist, they were created
by lawyers and they know what they are doing (I hope :-) ). Also
consult a lawyer to undertand the different licenses out there and
pick one that you are comfortable with.<br>
<br>
Just my opinion<br>
Joe<br>
TSolucio<br>
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El 30/03/14 20:27, Pabiszczak, Błażej escribió:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">We have no name for the license (just our license),
tomorrow I will give licenses to translate and you send it in
English. We have liberal views :]
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<div>This is my translate :P</div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">You
can do what you want with our module for testing. If You
buy, You can do what you want with code (1 license =
1 customer (you can have many servers like test, prod, dev,
lab etc.). You can sell our module for Yours clients, but
You need pay for every customer and send us info about
customer (we create internal license). You must leave
information about the author.</blockquote>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">The
license is lifetime. Free access to update lasts for only a
year, after one year, the cost of renovation is 50% of the
module.</blockquote>
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<div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div>
<div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div>
<div>M: +48.884999123<br>
E: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl"
target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a></div>
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1. Re: vtiger CRM 5 Long Time Support :: coreBOS (Joe
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Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 20:01:29 +0200<br>
From: Joe Bordes <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Long
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coreBOS<br>
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Yes, if possible. Just curious...<br>
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El 30/03/14 19:55, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej escribi?:<br>
> Good question :P You wanna name of license (like
GPL, VPL, etc)?<br>
><br>
> Z powaz.aniem / Regards<br>
> B?az.ej Pabiszczak<br>
> M: +48.884999123<br>
> E: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>
<mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2014-03-30 19:44 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com">joe@tsolucio.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com">joe@tsolucio.com</a>>>:<br>
><br>
> What license is that?<br>
><br>
> Joe<br>
> TSolucio<br>
><br>
><br>
> El 30/03/14 19:37, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej
escribi?:<br>
>> You can do what you want with our module
for testing.<br>
>> If You buy, You can do what you want with
code (1 license = 1<br>
>> customer (you can have many servers like
test, prod, dev, lab etc.).<br>
>> You can sell our module for Yours clients,
but You need pay for<br>
>> every customer and send us info about
customer (we create<br>
>> internal license).<br>
>><br>
>> Z powaz.aniem / Regards<br>
>> B?az.ej Pabiszczak<br>
>> M: +48.884999123<br>
>> E: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>
<mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2014-03-30 19:31 GMT+02:00 socialboostdk
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:socialboostdk@gmail.com">socialboostdk@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:socialboostdk@gmail.com">socialboostdk@gmail.com</a>>>:<br>
>><br>
>> Ok - sounds exciting!<br>
>><br>
>> I of course understands that there is a
license-fee, but will<br>
>> it be closed or open source? I use a
heavily modified version<br>
>> of vtiger (6) and generally need to be
able to modify the<br>
>> modules I use.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 30 March 2014 19:25, Pabiszczak,
B?az.ej<br>
>> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>
<mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> We publish 10-15 modules in next
week on our site.<br>
>><br>
>> Z powaz.aniem / Regards<br>
>> B?az.ej Pabiszczak<br>
>> M: +48.884999123
<tel:%2B48.884999123><br>
>> E: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>
<mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2014-03-29 22:42 GMT+01:00
socialboostdk<br>
>> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:socialboostdk@gmail.com">socialboostdk@gmail.com</a>
<mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:socialboostdk@gmail.com">socialboostdk@gmail.com</a>>>:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi B?az.ej,<br>
>><br>
>> Valid points. Are those modules
available somehow?<br>
>> Ie. can they be purchased, and
would the license<br>
>> allow for me to edit the
source?<br>
>><br>
>> OSSMail looks very interesting
but I need some other<br>
>> functionality also, which I
could do myself.<br>
>><br>
>> :) Thanks.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 29 March 2014 18:04,
Pabiszczak, B?az.ej<br>
>> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> In my opinion you have done
wrong. Why?<br>
>><br>
>> * You use a ten-year
architecture (from 6<br>
>> months is new)<br>
>> * You create Vtiger fork
(it takes a lot of<br>
>> people and a lot of
time, How many<br>
>> programmers You have
(3-5?)? You need 15 and<br>
>> a lot of money).<br>
>> * We have OSSMail (like<br>
>> yours coreBOSMail),
which has more options<br>
>> and is 100% integrated
with Vtiger (modifying<br>
>> only 3 system files in
version 6.1 will not<br>
>> have to modify any).<br>
>> * LTS is expensive to
maintain and slows the<br>
>> progression! (for large
customers we offer<br>
>> SLAs for versions 5.4).<br>
>><br>
>> Currently we have 30
working modules for Vtiger<br>
>> 6. Our company began to
migrate to version 6 over<br>
>> 9 months ago! We understand
your decisions, but<br>
>> making a mistake that you
do this on version 5.4<br>
>> and not 6.0.<br>
>><br>
>> And what would happen if
our common system was<br>
>> developed by Team Vtiger
(Vtiger 6), and<br>
>> companies like yours and my
(&others), have<br>
>> joined forces (how will
work mail module, if we<br>
>> built it together with
*VTIGER TEAM*)?.<br>
>><br>
>> *Together, we are able to
offer more! Together<br>
>> with Vtiger Team! Many
companies do not<br>
>> understand how many loses
does not work together!*<br>
>><br>
>> Sorry for my EN :(<br>
>><br>
>> Z powaz.aniem / Regards<br>
>> B?az.ej Pabiszczak<br>
>> M: +48.884999123
<tel:%2B48.884999123><br>
>> E: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2014-03-29 16:32 GMT+01:00
Joe Bordes<br>
>> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com">joe@tsolucio.com</a>
<mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com">joe@tsolucio.com</a>>>:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi,<br>
>><br>
>> I agree, in major part
I am totally with you.<br>
>> There has been a LOT of
debating going on<br>
>> around here before we
took this step.<br>
>> I understand your
programmers (I am one) and<br>
>> that is fine with me. I
encourage you to<br>
>> continue to support
VT6, that is the way to<br>
>> go. We are catering to
the part of community<br>
>> and users who want to
push VT5 a little<br>
>> further, we want to
control our destiny.<br>
>><br>
>> coreBOS WILL have
something special, give us<br>
>> a little time, we just
started :-)<br>
>><br>
>> Joe<br>
>> TSolucio<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> El 28/03/14 09:24,
Pabiszczak, B?az.ej escribi?:<br>
>>> Hi<br>
>>><br>
>>> Vtiger 5.4 is old
architecture, none of our<br>
>>> programmer does not
want to return to it.<br>
>>> Does coreBOS have
something special?<br>
>>> On your website, I
only see the integration<br>
>>> of roundcube, the
rest of the links do not work.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Z powaz.aniem /
Regards<br>
>>> B?az.ej Pabiszczak<br>
>>> M: +48.884999123
<tel:%2B48.884999123><br>
>>> E: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> 2014-03-27 17:24
GMT+01:00 Joe Bordes<br>
>>> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com">joe@tsolucio.com</a>
<mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com">joe@tsolucio.com</a>>>:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hello,<br>
>>><br>
>>> This post is to
announce the creation of<br>
>>> the coreBOS
project. coreBOS starts from<br>
>>> the rich
inheritance of vtiger CRM 5.4.<br>
>>> with intention
to give support to the<br>
>>> big user and
developer base for 5.x.<br>
>>><br>
>>> During the
birth of this project the<br>
>>> first name that
was given to it was<br>
>>> vt5LTS,
borrowing the name from Ubuntu,<br>
>>> that stands for
vtiger CRM 5 Long Time<br>
>>> Support, but we
didn't want to conflict<br>
>>> with vtiger
name branding nor create<br>
>>> conflict in any
way in the developer and<br>
>>> user community.
Also we understand that<br>
>>> we will quickly
drift away from vtiger<br>
>>> CRM line of
action and be something<br>
>>> else, so we
thought that the name didn't<br>
>>> make justice to
all the potential we see<br>
>>> in the project
and where we want to take<br>
>>> it. We saw a
near future where coreBOS<br>
>>> would have it's
own merits and reasons<br>
>>> to stand tall
for it's own right so we<br>
>>> gave it a name
and started our adventure.<br>
>>><br>
>>> We aren't
creating this project out of<br>
>>> disrespect or
spite, we do not have a<br>
>>> bad relation
with the vtiger company nor<br>
>>> with the
community, we plan to keep<br>
>>> investing time
in vtiger CRM 6 and<br>
>>> future
releases, although it will be<br>
>>> less than what
we have done for the 5.x<br>
>>> branch.<br>
>>><br>
>>> In fact I have
to admit that I like a<br>
>>> lot of things I
see in vtiger CRM 6 and<br>
>>> will most
probably downgrade some of<br>
>>> them, I think
vtiger is going down the<br>
>>> right track
with VT6 and with the change<br>
>>> in community
support of the past weeks<br>
>>> (incredible!!).<br>
>>><br>
>>> For more
information, please come to<br>
>>> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://corebos.tsolucio.com/" target="_blank">http://corebos.tsolucio.com/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> We invite you
to join us :-)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thank you,<br>
>>> Joe<br>
>>> TSolucio<br>
>>>
_______________________________________________<br>
>>> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.vtiger.com/"
target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>
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