<div dir="ltr">We have no name for the license (just our license), tomorrow I will give licenses to translate and you send it in English. We have liberal views :]<div><br></div><div>This is my translate :P</div><div><br></div>
<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">You can do what you want with our module for testing. If You buy, You can do what you want with code (1 license = 1 customer (you can have many servers like test, prod, dev, lab etc.). You can sell our module for Yours clients, but You need pay for every customer and send us info about customer (we create internal license). You must leave information about the author.</blockquote>
<div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">The license is lifetime. Free access to update lasts for only a year, after one year, the cost of renovation is 50% of the module (You do not have to buy it). </blockquote>
<div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br></div><div><div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div><div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div><div>M: +48.884999123<br>E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a></div>
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1. Re: vtiger CRM 5 Long Time Support :: coreBOS (Joe Bordes)<br>
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Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 20:01:29 +0200<br>
From: Joe Bordes <<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Long Time Support ::<br>
coreBOS<br>
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Yes, if possible. Just curious...<br>
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El 30/03/14 19:55, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej escribi?:<br>
> Good question :P You wanna name of license (like GPL, VPL, etc)?<br>
><br>
> Z powaz.aniem / Regards<br>
> B?az.ej Pabiszczak<br>
> M: +48.884999123<br>
> E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2014-03-30 19:44 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a>>>:<br>
><br>
> What license is that?<br>
><br>
> Joe<br>
> TSolucio<br>
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><br>
> El 30/03/14 19:37, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej escribi?:<br>
>> You can do what you want with our module for testing.<br>
>> If You buy, You can do what you want with code (1 license = 1<br>
>> customer (you can have many servers like test, prod, dev, lab etc.).<br>
>> You can sell our module for Yours clients, but You need pay for<br>
>> every customer and send us info about customer (we create<br>
>> internal license).<br>
>><br>
>> Z powaz.aniem / Regards<br>
>> B?az.ej Pabiszczak<br>
>> M: +48.884999123<br>
>> E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2014-03-30 19:31 GMT+02:00 socialboostdk <<a href="mailto:socialboostdk@gmail.com" target="_blank">socialboostdk@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:socialboostdk@gmail.com" target="_blank">socialboostdk@gmail.com</a>>>:<br>
>><br>
>> Ok - sounds exciting!<br>
>><br>
>> I of course understands that there is a license-fee, but will<br>
>> it be closed or open source? I use a heavily modified version<br>
>> of vtiger (6) and generally need to be able to modify the<br>
>> modules I use.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 30 March 2014 19:25, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> We publish 10-15 modules in next week on our site.<br>
>><br>
>> Z powaz.aniem / Regards<br>
>> B?az.ej Pabiszczak<br>
>> M: +48.884999123 <tel:%2B48.884999123><br>
>> E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2014-03-29 22:42 GMT+01:00 socialboostdk<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:socialboostdk@gmail.com" target="_blank">socialboostdk@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:socialboostdk@gmail.com" target="_blank">socialboostdk@gmail.com</a>>>:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi B?az.ej,<br>
>><br>
>> Valid points. Are those modules available somehow?<br>
>> Ie. can they be purchased, and would the license<br>
>> allow for me to edit the source?<br>
>><br>
>> OSSMail looks very interesting but I need some other<br>
>> functionality also, which I could do myself.<br>
>><br>
>> :) Thanks.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 29 March 2014 18:04, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> In my opinion you have done wrong. Why?<br>
>><br>
>> * You use a ten-year architecture (from 6<br>
>> months is new)<br>
>> * You create Vtiger fork (it takes a lot of<br>
>> people and a lot of time, How many<br>
>> programmers You have (3-5?)? You need 15 and<br>
>> a lot of money).<br>
>> * We have OSSMail (like<br>
>> yours coreBOSMail), which has more options<br>
>> and is 100% integrated with Vtiger (modifying<br>
>> only 3 system files in version 6.1 will not<br>
>> have to modify any).<br>
>> * LTS is expensive to maintain and slows the<br>
>> progression! (for large customers we offer<br>
>> SLAs for versions 5.4).<br>
>><br>
>> Currently we have 30 working modules for Vtiger<br>
>> 6. Our company began to migrate to version 6 over<br>
>> 9 months ago! We understand your decisions, but<br>
>> making a mistake that you do this on version 5.4<br>
>> and not 6.0.<br>
>><br>
>> And what would happen if our common system was<br>
>> developed by Team Vtiger (Vtiger 6), and<br>
>> companies like yours and my (&others), have<br>
>> joined forces (how will work mail module, if we<br>
>> built it together with *VTIGER TEAM*)?.<br>
>><br>
>> *Together, we are able to offer more! Together<br>
>> with Vtiger Team! Many companies do not<br>
>> understand how many loses does not work together!*<br>
>><br>
>> Sorry for my EN :(<br>
>><br>
>> Z powaz.aniem / Regards<br>
>> B?az.ej Pabiszczak<br>
>> M: +48.884999123 <tel:%2B48.884999123><br>
>> E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2014-03-29 16:32 GMT+01:00 Joe Bordes<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a>>>:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi,<br>
>><br>
>> I agree, in major part I am totally with you.<br>
>> There has been a LOT of debating going on<br>
>> around here before we took this step.<br>
>> I understand your programmers (I am one) and<br>
>> that is fine with me. I encourage you to<br>
>> continue to support VT6, that is the way to<br>
>> go. We are catering to the part of community<br>
>> and users who want to push VT5 a little<br>
>> further, we want to control our destiny.<br>
>><br>
>> coreBOS WILL have something special, give us<br>
>> a little time, we just started :-)<br>
>><br>
>> Joe<br>
>> TSolucio<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> El 28/03/14 09:24, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej escribi?:<br>
>>> Hi<br>
>>><br>
>>> Vtiger 5.4 is old architecture, none of our<br>
>>> programmer does not want to return to it.<br>
>>> Does coreBOS have something special?<br>
>>> On your website, I only see the integration<br>
>>> of roundcube, the rest of the links do not work.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Z powaz.aniem / Regards<br>
>>> B?az.ej Pabiszczak<br>
>>> M: +48.884999123 <tel:%2B48.884999123><br>
>>> E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> 2014-03-27 17:24 GMT+01:00 Joe Bordes<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a>>>:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hello,<br>
>>><br>
>>> This post is to announce the creation of<br>
>>> the coreBOS project. coreBOS starts from<br>
>>> the rich inheritance of vtiger CRM 5.4.<br>
>>> with intention to give support to the<br>
>>> big user and developer base for 5.x.<br>
>>><br>
>>> During the birth of this project the<br>
>>> first name that was given to it was<br>
>>> vt5LTS, borrowing the name from Ubuntu,<br>
>>> that stands for vtiger CRM 5 Long Time<br>
>>> Support, but we didn't want to conflict<br>
>>> with vtiger name branding nor create<br>
>>> conflict in any way in the developer and<br>
>>> user community. Also we understand that<br>
>>> we will quickly drift away from vtiger<br>
>>> CRM line of action and be something<br>
>>> else, so we thought that the name didn't<br>
>>> make justice to all the potential we see<br>
>>> in the project and where we want to take<br>
>>> it. We saw a near future where coreBOS<br>
>>> would have it's own merits and reasons<br>
>>> to stand tall for it's own right so we<br>
>>> gave it a name and started our adventure.<br>
>>><br>
>>> We aren't creating this project out of<br>
>>> disrespect or spite, we do not have a<br>
>>> bad relation with the vtiger company nor<br>
>>> with the community, we plan to keep<br>
>>> investing time in vtiger CRM 6 and<br>
>>> future releases, although it will be<br>
>>> less than what we have done for the 5.x<br>
>>> branch.<br>
>>><br>
>>> In fact I have to admit that I like a<br>
>>> lot of things I see in vtiger CRM 6 and<br>
>>> will most probably downgrade some of<br>
>>> them, I think vtiger is going down the<br>
>>> right track with VT6 and with the change<br>
>>> in community support of the past weeks<br>
>>> (incredible!!).<br>
>>><br>
>>> For more information, please come to<br>
>>> <a href="http://corebos.tsolucio.com/" target="_blank">http://corebos.tsolucio.com/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> We invite you to join us :-)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thank you,<br>
>>> Joe<br>
>>> TSolucio<br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> <a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" target="_blank">http://www.vtiger.com/</a><br>
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