<div>Team,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for participations on this thread, I hope you did look at the </div><div>wiki documentation that was targeted to capture the changes made:</div><div><ul><li><a href="https://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Vtiger_6_Developer_Guide" target="_blank">https://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Vtiger_6_Developer_Guide</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Vtiger_6_Language_Translation" target="_blank">https://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Vtiger_6_Language_Translation</a></li></ul></div><div><div>As said, the code in SVN is under-development, our focus is primarily to get the Vtiger6 functionality </div>
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<div>working (both module + settings) without disturbing the Vtiger5 runtime.</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>Vtiger6 module folder structure should be much simpler than what is Vtiger5.</div><div>We would be looking at refactoring and remove files which aren't required anymore.</div>
</div><div><br></div></div><div>I hope this cleared the confusions?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Prasad</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Joe Bordes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>It isn't a price to pay for forking,
even if you have been playing by the (scarce) rules it is still a
nightmare. I think the biggest problem is the lack of transparency
and knowledge. We have no idea what vtiger is doing, we have no
participation in the changes being made, we don't even see them
coming, all of a sudden you have months worth of work to
understand a whole new set of rules and code base with no real
clues as to where to start or continue. You might just as well
start with any other code base from scratch. That said, we have
nothing to reproach, we are here because we want to, if you don't
like it, change it. I'm sure you'll see that it isn't easy at all.<br>
<br>
While we decide and try to keep pace, it does feel good to vent
off a little once in a while :-)<br>
<br>
Joe<br>
TSolucio<div><div><br>
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On 19/02/13 22:28, Richard Hills wrote:<br>
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<div>1 - Unfortunately we're in the same
boat. I am hoping that at least some vtlib module migrations
will be straight forward, however have ignored this completely
so far as I await a rc.<br>
2 - This is the price we pay for forking the base of the system
right?<br>
<br>
On 20/02/13 10:14, Adam Heinz wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I don't know about anybody else, but in order to
migrate to vt6, I'm looking at:
<div>1. rewrite sixteen custom modules</div>
<div>2. reimplement all vt5 patches for vt6</div>
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<div>Without any sort of adapter to provide backwards
compatibility, I am forced to do all this work at once,
instead of being able to spread it out over time as I
respond to our normal queue of bugs and feature requests.
As far as one might "<span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">prefer
one hard redesign, without compatibility," I think that's
only true when you have a deprecation period to make the
transition.</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:00 AM,
Stefan Warnat <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ich@stefanwarnat.de" target="_blank">ich@stefanwarnat.de</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> I don't have look
at details of the vtiger6 structure vtiger6 and I think
it isn't a perfect system, <br>
but I think anything inside the modules directory will
be deleted on release date and later modules will be
only in vtiger6 directory.<br>
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My experience is, that files from "modules" Directory
won't be used inside new vtiger6 theme.<br>
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But probably it's true, most/all vtiger developer prefer
one hard redesign, without compatibility, before lots of
little changes, which needs lots of tests/work with
every version.<br>
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Am 19.02.2013 16:36, schrieb Adam Heinz:
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<div dir="ltr">"Keep the vtiger6 code
operational?" How about keeping the vtiger5
code operational?! You forked your own modules
to create the vtiger6 subfolder. I have no idea
how I'm supposed to merge a branch that contains
a partial copy of itself, much less attempt to
preserve any sort of merge/edit history. This
is the largest bowl of copy pasta I've ever
encountered in fifteen years of professional
development. It shows a grave lack of restraint
and/or understanding of how to refactor a system
while keeping it operational.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at
11:30 PM, Prasad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:prasad@vtiger.com" target="_blank">prasad@vtiger.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Adam,
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<div>We did have a look at several
frameworks and evolved a simple one that</div>
<div>can give us better control to keep the
vtiger6 code operational with 5.x while</div>
<div>our dev-team is on making progress.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please do share your feedback if you
find anything essentially lacking in
vtiger6 framework.<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Prasad<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div>On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:06 AM,
Adam Heinz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amh@metricwise.net" target="_blank">amh@metricwise.net</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm poking around
in vgcal right now and am
extremely glad to see how
much Zend code it uses. Did you
guys consider using
ZendFramework 2 MVC instead of
rolling your own for vtiger6?</div>
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