<p>Frankly, as a sales development training professional I find the new interface a big improvement. The work flow is greatly improved as well.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 24, 2012 7:25 PM, "John Crisp" <<a href="mailto:john@reetspetit.net">john@reetspetit.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi,<br>
<br>
Just had a quick peek at the new 5.4 demo and sad to say, I'm not at all<br>
sure I like it :-(<br>
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Organisations ??? Opportunities ??? Just managed to educate my users and<br>
now I have to re-educate them. Or is there an easy way to change them to<br>
back to Accounts & Potentials which they are used too ?<br>
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Bug ? Looking for a way to rename the modules I had a look in the Module<br>
Manager, and noticed that all the other modules are sorted<br>
alphabetically so I was a bit surprised when looking for Organisations<br>
down the list and then found it was at the top !!!!<br>
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The whole thing just seems more difficult to find what you want quickly<br>
despite being told that it was easier to use. The drop downs previously<br>
used were much more 'usable' IMHO. The ability to choose preferred menu<br>
buttons is a plus, but I would have liked to have seen the ability to<br>
choose the top buttons, and then sub menus as each organisation sees fit.<br>
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e.g. For us I would like a Sales menu with drop downs for Contacts,<br>
Accounts, Potential, Quotes, SO's, Inv, a Marketing menu with relevant<br>
sub menus, and a Vendors Menu with say POs, Products, Price Books and<br>
then a Tools/Reports/Misc menu for all the other gubbins. This would<br>
mean I only need 3 or 4 to buttons with relevant groupings below.<br>
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A more flexible UI to cater for different companies methodology and<br>
thinking would be a great leap forward - being able to choose buttons is<br>
a great start, but doesn't work for all.<br>
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The help button on the right is nothing but annoying, overlaps things<br>
slightly and keeps dragging your eyes away. It needs the width reducing<br>
to keep out of the way. Or the ability to disable it altogether (is that<br>
possible already ?)<br>
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The global search box at the top looks like it has been thrown there in<br>
desperation ! Maybe the old one wasn't quite obvious enough, but this<br>
feels like a 'slap in the face with a wet fish' approach !<br>
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Bug ? On my Firefox (11.0 Linux) it isn't rendered properly - the icon<br>
is 50 x 25 px but it shows as 48 x 31 px which is not 70%/70% as per the<br>
code :<br>
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<input type="image" class="searchBtn" alt="Find" title="Find"<br>
width="70%;" height="70%" src="themes/images/searchicon.PNG"<br>
align="left" border="1" onsubmit="submit-form();"><br>
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I think it should be around 48 x 24 px to look right or 'square'.<br>
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Having looked, I think there may a duplicate entry in the style.css file<br>
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Line 2825<br>
.searchBtn {<br>
width: 48px;<br>
height: 31px;<br>
}<br>
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Line 1303<br>
.searchBtn {<br>
width: 48px;<br>
height: 24px;<br>
}<br>
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The bottom one looks correct but is overridden by the top one.<br>
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Bug ? If you do a global search, and then 'Show results in', check a box<br>
and then apply, my natural thought was that it would then filter the<br>
results on the basis that I wanted a 'Global' search first and then a<br>
narrower search if I got too many results. However, if you do, you just<br>
get either no change or a blank screen (have had both). Obviously my<br>
search logic is different to other users !<br>
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My users and I tend to type the search term, wait for the results and<br>
then filter down. I would argue that there needs to be some more thought<br>
on how to make this work more intuitively.<br>
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Vendors. I thought great, finally you can add a Contact to a Vendor. Or<br>
so I thought. But wait. That Contact belongs to an Organisation ??? That<br>
is crazy. Either they are a Contact of that Vendor or they are a Contact<br>
for an Organisation. Or does someone out there have Contacts who relate<br>
directly to a Vendor ??? Our Contacts never have any contact with a<br>
Vendor. It's totally illogical, and confusing.<br>
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Vendors should have the ability to have multiple Contacts of their own<br>
and I have said as much before - a lot of our Vendors have different<br>
Contacts for their own departments Sales, Accounts, Marketing etc etc.<br>
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But they have nothing to do at all with our 'Sales' Accounts or Contacts<br>
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I think the Vendors/Product/Services aspect is somewhat neglected and<br>
should be as powerful as the Sales side - after all it is equally as<br>
important as Sales.<br>
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No Products/Services = No Sales<br>
More Sales = More Vendors / Products / Services<br>
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And it needs to be clearly separated from Organisation<br>
(Account)/Contacts other wise we'll all be in a right mucking fuddle !<br>
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Sorry if I sound negative as I don't want to be - I love the product and<br>
evangelise where I can, but it just doesn't feel quite as 'natural' as<br>
before !<br>
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However, I thought I'd speak here, and not the forums, to look for some<br>
constructive discussion. If need be I will post some of this on the trac<br>
if people with greater minds than mine feel that some of the items are<br>
either bugs or NFRs<br>
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B. Rgds<br>
John<br>
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