Hi Adam,<div><br></div><div>We are extremely sorry for not being pro-active on community contributions. </div><div><br></div><div>We expect to put our full effort towards maintaining a co-operative relationship with the community and drive the product ahead with community contributions.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I have commented on your first patch submitted. </div><div><br></div><div>PS: Please make sure to mark the type of trac ticket as 'patch' whenever you are submitting patches.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Adam Heinz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amh@metricwise.net">amh@metricwise.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Alan Lord (News) <<a href="mailto:alanslists@gmail.com">alanslists@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I think the recent reply from Asha shows that they are "listening" and,<br>
> provided the submissions are good enough/useful enough, they will get<br>
> incorporated into trunk in a timely manner.<br>
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</div><a href="http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/4128" target="_blank">http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/4128</a><br>
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I submitted my first patch to vtiger over a year ago and have not seen<br>
a response to it. I would be happy to see something like, "We can't<br>
accept 5.0.4 patches, could you please forward migrate this to trunk."<br>
Whether or not vtiger is willing to listen, I'm not convinced that<br>
vtiger is able to listen. Trac affords no mechanism for watching or<br>
voting on tickets, so there is no way to gauge how important a<br>
particular fix is for the community. Check out this canned "Active<br>
tickets, mine first" search:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/report/8" target="_blank">http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/report/8</a><br>
<br>
Look how many open bugs there are for shipped releases. The bare<br>
minimum would be to sweep all these bugs forward into the Unassigned<br>
milestone. Better still would be to expend the effort to determine<br>
which of these bugs are WONTFIX or INVALID and mark them against the<br>
current release, then prioritize and schedule the rest, especially the<br>
bugs with patches. This bug tracking system is showing signs of<br>
neglect.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Forking is only a good idea as a last resort IMHO and there needs to be<br>
> a *big* community movement behind it. Here I do not see that at all. It<br>
> would bring no or little benefit and just fragment the community.<br>
><br>
> It is much better to discuss our issues in a grown-up manner and resolve<br>
> them within the existing ecosystem.<br>
><br>
> I also think that there is nowhere near enough<br>
> groundswell/contributors/advocates to support, maintain and grow a<br>
> community fork of vtiger.<br>
<br>
</div>With distributed source control systems (such as git), fork is not the<br>
dirty word it used to legitimately be. The standard way to work on<br>
github is to fork the open source project, make the fix in your own<br>
fork, then submit a pull request for the maintainers to pull your fix<br>
back into the project. So I really should have said community forks,<br>
plural? I am proposing picking up the ecosystem and moving it two<br>
steps to the left, however! ;)<br>
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