<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi Richie and the rest of the team!<br>
<br>
You address me correctly, Matjaz is my name :)</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">As I belive the 4.2.x stream is the
current "production" vTiger environment for most of the users,
my primary goal would be to focus on:</font>
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<li><font size=2 face="sans-serif">debugging (fixing parts that either
don't work at all and/or work incorrectly)</font>
<li><font size=2 face="sans-serif">improving usability (based on feedback
from users)</font></ul>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I would also like to try and get the
following not-quite-features, maybe bugs? implemented/fixed:</font>
<ul>
<li><font size=2 face="sans-serif">multilanguage support (simply get rid
of any and all hard-coded strings)</font>
<li><font size=2 face="sans-serif">full per user or at least per-system
localization support (number format, date format, currency support etc)</font></ul>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">These two last items are - in my opinion
- somewhere between debugging and new features. vTiger is already supposed
to support multiple languages, however this support is not well implemented.
The same can be said for localization - vTiger is supposed to be able to
support per-user date format, but again there are areas where the implementation
is not as good as it could be.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Also, based on my researches into existing
vTiger deployments, I see there are a lot of non-english users, but they
probably are using forked code, as due to these two issues they cannot
use the "official" 4.2.x stream code. I would like to get these
users back on the team, and I know they might return only if we provide
them with a 100% localisable product. This will enable them to post the
patches they make back to the community or at least give them an opportunity
to work with us on resolving them.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I would try and keep us on this track,
rather than go try implement new features and make large changes to UI
- the place for these is v5.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">To achieve this, I would first gather
any and all contributions currently lying around (in the forum, as provided
by other people here etc.) - matching the categories above - and start
the process of getting them in the code. <b>I would like to see a show
of hands</b> from people that would be prepared to devote some time to
debugging/updating tthese contributions - as some might need an update.
I know me and my colleagues in our company will.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">If all goes well, we could try and implement
a regular timeline (say every month) when we would be releasing point versions.
If I get at least two or three people to help, I guess we could have our
first result (4.2.5 I guess) in two months.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I think there will be people using the
4.2.x stream for at least a year after v5 is released, and that if we as
a team show them we are supporting them, than they will upgrade to v5 ->
if we don't they might start looking elsewhere.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><b>Thoughts, anyone?</b><br>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Matjaz Slak<br>
matjaz.slak@atol.si<br>
<br>
Atol d.o.o. | http://www.atol.si | tel. +386 1
510 15 30</font>
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<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com</font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">17.07.2006 16:57</font>
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<br><font size=3>Hi Matjaz! <br>
I hope I am addressing you properly if not please forgive me and direct
to the proper mode of addressing. <br>
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If you are game then great! <br>
Welcome to the club. <br>
Please select your stand-in helper so that at least we have a backup for
Linus Matjaz. Let me know and I will grant you the relevant access. <br>
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It would be nice if you could briefly state how you plan to address the
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disparate contributions. This is just to get an idea as there are lots
of data floating around in the code contributions and mailing lists; wanted
to know if you have any specific plan. I will be busy with the v5 release
and will not be able to help you much so the query. <br>
I was earlier integrating it 1 by 1 till 4.2.3 and we do have a wiki page
which reflects the status of the contributions. I am not sure if that is
updated till the 4.2.4 release though. http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Vtiger_CRM_Code_Contributions
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Allan, any tips from you will be nice. <br>
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Richie<br>
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---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler@gmail.com> wrote ---- <br>
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<br><font size=3>On 7/14/06, Matjaz.Slak@atol.si <Matjaz.Slak@atol.si>
wrote:<br>
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> Hi!<br>
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> If there's no one else, I volunteer to be the v4 Linus.<br>
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just do it. ;-)<br>
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<br>
/sak<br>
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