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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hope this mail is not out of topic in this mailing
list but I would like to participate to “effort”ocracy with PDA
sync implementation I have investigated last days.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>First of all, I read about SugarCRM connector developed
by sync4j team. That looked fun and the nearest solution for vtiger. So I
tested it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>My opinion :<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>it is full Java and not
easy to maintain for PHP developers (of course this was well knowned before).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Installation procedure is
insufficiently documented, you have to do hard work to have it working<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It needs a server
software listening to its own port<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>available version is old
and does not seem to be followed up<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I have not been able to
have my Nokia 6600 work with it and have not obtained any support on this bug. After
doing a lot of google search I found that this phone is using a recent wbxml
protocol implementation which is not supported.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Conclusion : dead end.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I found something which looks more promising, looking
at Horde EGroupware template (<a href="http://www.horde.org/">http://www.horde.org/</a>)
which has a syncml full PHP implementation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:53.25pt;text-indent:-35.25pt;mso-list:
l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It supports both xml and
wbxml protocols.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It works with Nokia 6600
(beta most recent release only)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It doesn’t need any
server software, just need to be incorporated in user’s site<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Installation is
complicated due to Horde template prerequisites but documentation is good<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Looking at the code, I
think it could be disconnected from Horde template without not much efforts<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Project looks active.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I know that a lot of work is being done about versions
4.2.4 and 5.0 but I think that a lot of companies using CRM have sales teams
along the road needing to stay connected to their planning or to get orders
results from their CRM system. Wireless synchronization could be a great
enhancement.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Some questions :<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>How many people are
interested?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>What is the opinion of
jurists regarding the use of part of Horde source and GNU Public License?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:53.25pt;text-indent:-35.25pt;mso-list:
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If there is no juridical
obstacle, could we have a Sync branch in the forge and a team to work on this
project?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Michel<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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