<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body >Hello&nbsp;Team!<br>Good&nbsp;to&nbsp;know&nbsp;that&nbsp;we&nbsp;have&nbsp;an&nbsp;active&nbsp;discussion&nbsp;on&nbsp;here.<br>Mike&nbsp;and&nbsp;myself&nbsp;had&nbsp;discussed&nbsp;using&nbsp;gforge&nbsp;and&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;beast&nbsp;to&nbsp;work&nbsp;with.<br><br>As&nbsp;we&nbsp;are&nbsp;all&nbsp;working&nbsp;on&nbsp;this&nbsp;together,&nbsp;Mike&nbsp;has&nbsp;volunteered&nbsp;to&nbsp;get&nbsp;the<br>forge&nbsp;running.&nbsp;The&nbsp;easiest&nbsp;to&nbsp;get&nbsp;to&nbsp;work&nbsp;was&nbsp;the&nbsp;current&nbsp;one&nbsp;he&nbsp;is&nbsp;using.<br>Having&nbsp;said&nbsp;that,&nbsp;we&nbsp;had&nbsp;also&nbsp;asked&nbsp;for&nbsp;earlier&nbsp;suggestions&nbsp;for&nbsp;forge&nbsp;but<br>we&nbsp;did&nbsp;not&nbsp;get&nbsp;many&nbsp;easy&nbsp;to&nbsp;use&nbsp;systems.<br><br>Mike,&nbsp;on&nbsp;his&nbsp;own&nbsp;initiative&nbsp;found&nbsp;out&nbsp;the&nbsp;current&nbsp;solution&nbsp;and&nbsp;has&nbsp;done&nbsp;<br>admirably&nbsp;till&nbsp;now.<br><br>I&nbsp;would&nbsp;suggest&nbsp;that&nbsp;we&nbsp;get&nbsp;the&nbsp;forge&nbsp;up&nbsp;and&nbsp;running&nbsp;and&nbsp;then&nbsp;we&nbsp;can&nbsp;always<br>move&nbsp;to&nbsp;svn&nbsp;or&nbsp;some&nbsp;better&nbsp;system&nbsp;that&nbsp;comes&nbsp;along&nbsp;in&nbsp;due&nbsp;course&nbsp;of&nbsp;time.<br><br>I&nbsp;would&nbsp;request&nbsp;whoever&nbsp;can&nbsp;help&nbsp;Mike&nbsp;to&nbsp;please&nbsp;stand&nbsp;up&nbsp;and&nbsp;raise&nbsp;their&nbsp;hands<br>so&nbsp;that&nbsp;it&nbsp;takes&nbsp;off&nbsp;some&nbsp;load&nbsp;off&nbsp;Mike.<br><br>Please&nbsp;note,&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;question&nbsp;of&nbsp;convenience&nbsp;right&nbsp;now&nbsp;and&nbsp;we&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;make&nbsp;do&nbsp;<br>with&nbsp;what&nbsp;we&nbsp;have.&nbsp;On&nbsp;hindsight,&nbsp;it&nbsp;always&nbsp;seem&nbsp;better&nbsp;to&nbsp;have&nbsp;a&nbsp;&nbsp;different&nbsp;<br>solution&nbsp;but&nbsp;that&nbsp;is&nbsp;'after'&nbsp;things&nbsp;have&nbsp;happened.&nbsp;When&nbsp;we&nbsp;needed&nbsp;a&nbsp;solution,<br>we&nbsp;did&nbsp;not&nbsp;get&nbsp;any&nbsp;and&nbsp;Mike&nbsp;happened&nbsp;to&nbsp;make&nbsp;one&nbsp;work.&nbsp;So&nbsp;why&nbsp;not&nbsp;proceed&nbsp;with&nbsp;<br>it?<br><br>Fahi,&nbsp;I&nbsp;do&nbsp;understand&nbsp;your&nbsp;point&nbsp;and&nbsp;Sak&nbsp;was&nbsp;just&nbsp;pointing&nbsp;out&nbsp;the&nbsp;facts&nbsp;that<br>had&nbsp;occured&nbsp;before&nbsp;you&nbsp;joined&nbsp;the&nbsp;list.&nbsp;We&nbsp;are&nbsp;in&nbsp;this&nbsp;together&nbsp;and&nbsp;there&nbsp;is&nbsp;<br>no&nbsp;sole&nbsp;ownership.&nbsp;We&nbsp;just&nbsp;chip&nbsp;in&nbsp;whatever&nbsp;we&nbsp;can,&nbsp;whenever&nbsp;we&nbsp;can.<br>Mike&nbsp;has&nbsp;high&nbsp;regards&nbsp;for&nbsp;everyone&nbsp;over&nbsp;here&nbsp;and&nbsp;we&nbsp;actively&nbsp;look&nbsp;forward<br>to&nbsp;help&nbsp;Mike&nbsp;out&nbsp;with&nbsp;the&nbsp;cvs/svn.&nbsp;Mike&nbsp;has&nbsp;a&nbsp;free&nbsp;hand&nbsp;there.<br><br>Mike&nbsp;can&nbsp;appoint&nbsp;whoever&nbsp;he&nbsp;wants&nbsp;to&nbsp;appoint&nbsp;to&nbsp;help&nbsp;him.&nbsp;He&nbsp;just&nbsp;needs&nbsp;to&nbsp;keep<br>us&nbsp;guys&nbsp;updated.&nbsp;<br><br>So,&nbsp;looking&nbsp;forward&nbsp;to&nbsp;Mike's&nbsp;forge&nbsp;getting&nbsp;GA!<br><br>In&nbsp;Mike&nbsp;+!<br><br>Richie<br><br><br><br>----sergiokessler@gmail.com&nbsp;wrote&nbsp;----&nbsp;<br><br>does&nbsp;it&nbsp;require&nbsp;ldap&nbsp;??<br>it&nbsp;can't&nbsp;be&nbsp;used&nbsp;without&nbsp;it&nbsp;?<br><br>/sak<br><br>On&nbsp;1/26/06,&nbsp;Joe&nbsp;Stewart&nbsp;&lt;joestewart@users.sourceforge.net&gt;&nbsp;wrote:<br>&gt;&nbsp;Fathi&nbsp;Boudra&nbsp;wrote:<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;hi&nbsp;all,<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;i've&nbsp;done&nbsp;a&nbsp;post&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;forum&nbsp;as&nbsp;i&nbsp;didn't&nbsp;see&nbsp;this&nbsp;previous&nbsp;thread&nbsp;:<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;i&nbsp;searched&nbsp;the&nbsp;forums&nbsp;to&nbsp;find&nbsp;how/why&nbsp;we&nbsp;have&nbsp;chosen&nbsp;myxoopsforge/novell<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;forge&nbsp;for&nbsp;vtiger&nbsp;forge&nbsp;and&nbsp;didn't&nbsp;find&nbsp;a&nbsp;clear&nbsp;answer&nbsp;to&nbsp;my&nbsp;question.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;a&nbsp;bit&nbsp;history&nbsp;(feel&nbsp;free&nbsp;to&nbsp;correct&nbsp;me)<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;myxoopsforge&nbsp;is&nbsp;built&nbsp;on&nbsp;top&nbsp;of&nbsp;xoops&nbsp;a&nbsp;CMS.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;it's&nbsp;a&nbsp;young&nbsp;project,&nbsp;relatively&nbsp;not&nbsp;widespread,&nbsp;based&nbsp;on&nbsp;a&nbsp;project&nbsp;that&nbsp;his<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;primary&nbsp;goal&nbsp;isn't&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;a&nbsp;collaborative&nbsp;development&nbsp;environment.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;novell&nbsp;forge&nbsp;is&nbsp;based&nbsp;on&nbsp;xoopsforge&nbsp;(built&nbsp;also&nbsp;on&nbsp;top&nbsp;of&nbsp;xoops).<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;also,&nbsp;it's&nbsp;a&nbsp;young&nbsp;project,&nbsp;relatively&nbsp;not&nbsp;widespread,&nbsp;hacked&nbsp;by&nbsp;novell&nbsp;to<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;support&nbsp;novell&nbsp;feature&nbsp;like&nbsp;ichain&nbsp;and&nbsp;edirectory.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;beside&nbsp;these&nbsp;solutions,&nbsp;we&nbsp;have&nbsp;well&nbsp;known&nbsp;widespread&nbsp;project&nbsp;collaborative<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;development&nbsp;environment&nbsp;like&nbsp;gforge&nbsp;or&nbsp;savannah/gna.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;i&nbsp;don't&nbsp;really&nbsp;understant&nbsp;this&nbsp;choice.&nbsp;thanks,&nbsp;if&nbsp;someone&nbsp;can&nbsp;answer&nbsp;to&nbsp;this<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;question.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;clearly,&nbsp;i&nbsp;would&nbsp;like&nbsp;to&nbsp;use&nbsp;a&nbsp;professional&nbsp;environment&nbsp;like&nbsp;gforge.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;i&nbsp;saw&nbsp;many&nbsp;question&nbsp;about&nbsp;version&nbsp;control&nbsp;system&nbsp;to&nbsp;use&nbsp;and&nbsp;for&nbsp;this,<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;i&nbsp;would&nbsp;like&nbsp;to&nbsp;support&nbsp;subversion.&nbsp;From&nbsp;my&nbsp;point&nbsp;of&nbsp;view,&nbsp;cvs&nbsp;was<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;deprecated.&nbsp;We&nbsp;have&nbsp;more&nbsp;and&nbsp;more&nbsp;projects&nbsp;switching&nbsp;from&nbsp;cvs&nbsp;to&nbsp;svn.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;for&nbsp;new&nbsp;projects,&nbsp;nobody&nbsp;use&nbsp;cvs,&nbsp;and&nbsp;for&nbsp;people&nbsp;using&nbsp;it,&nbsp;it's&nbsp;easy&nbsp;to<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;switch&nbsp;to&nbsp;svn.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;we&nbsp;need&nbsp;a&nbsp;clear&nbsp;choice&nbsp;for&nbsp;these&nbsp;tools&nbsp;from&nbsp;vtiger&nbsp;core&nbsp;team,<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;and&nbsp;probably&nbsp;some&nbsp;guidelines.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;thanks&nbsp;to&nbsp;sergio&nbsp;to&nbsp;point&nbsp;me&nbsp;here.&nbsp;after&nbsp;reading&nbsp;the&nbsp;"Why&nbsp;not&nbsp;gforge&nbsp;(for&nbsp;the<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;record!)"&nbsp;thread,&nbsp;i&nbsp;found&nbsp;other&nbsp;peoples&nbsp;feeling&nbsp;like&nbsp;me.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;to&nbsp;resume,&nbsp;we&nbsp;didn't&nbsp;use&nbsp;gforge&nbsp;because&nbsp;it's&nbsp;difficult&nbsp;to&nbsp;setup.<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;Only&nbsp;to&nbsp;chime&nbsp;in&nbsp;on&nbsp;this&nbsp;point.&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;debian&nbsp;gforge&nbsp;packages&nbsp;are&nbsp;not&nbsp;hard<br>&gt;&nbsp;to&nbsp;install.&nbsp;&nbsp;The&nbsp;hardest&nbsp;part&nbsp;is&nbsp;answering&nbsp;the&nbsp;ldap&nbsp;questions.&nbsp;&nbsp;The<br>&gt;&nbsp;maintainers&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;packaging&nbsp;sourceforge&nbsp;for&nbsp;a&nbsp;long&nbsp;time&nbsp;and&nbsp;it&nbsp;shows.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;But&nbsp;it&nbsp;does&nbsp;take&nbsp;more&nbsp;support&nbsp;than&nbsp;a&nbsp;more&nbsp;simple&nbsp;solution.&nbsp;&nbsp;And&nbsp;it<br>&gt;&nbsp;scales&nbsp;for&nbsp;future&nbsp;needs.&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;have&nbsp;installed&nbsp;and&nbsp;maintained&nbsp;gforge&nbsp;in&nbsp;the<br>&gt;&nbsp;past.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;I&nbsp;know&nbsp;Mike&nbsp;said&nbsp;he&nbsp;was&nbsp;using&nbsp;Gentoo&nbsp;but&nbsp;just&nbsp;wanted&nbsp;to&nbsp;clarify&nbsp;this&nbsp;point.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;Does&nbsp;xoopsforge&nbsp;provide&nbsp;for&nbsp;vhosts&nbsp;per&nbsp;project?&nbsp;&nbsp;Or&nbsp;shell&nbsp;access?&nbsp;&nbsp;This<br>&gt;&nbsp;may&nbsp;be&nbsp;something&nbsp;to&nbsp;consider.&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;know&nbsp;it&nbsp;has&nbsp;a&nbsp;wiki,&nbsp;but&nbsp;that&nbsp;isn't&nbsp;the<br>&gt;&nbsp;same.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;later,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;Joe<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;is&nbsp;it&nbsp;possible&nbsp;to&nbsp;discuss&nbsp;at&nbsp;this&nbsp;progress&nbsp;state&nbsp;of&nbsp;vtigerforge&nbsp;or&nbsp;we&nbsp;can't&nbsp;go<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;back&nbsp;definitively&nbsp;from&nbsp;novell&nbsp;forge&nbsp;choice&nbsp;?<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;cheers,<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;Fathi<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;_______________________________________________<br>&gt;&nbsp;vtigercrm-developers&nbsp;mailing&nbsp;list<br>&gt;&nbsp;vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com<br>&gt;&nbsp;http://lists.vtigercrm.com/mailman/listinfo/vtigercrm-developers<br>&gt;<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>vtigercrm-developers&nbsp;mailing&nbsp;list<br>vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com<br>http://lists.vtigercrm.com/mailman/listinfo/vtigercrm-developers<br></body></html>