From simonetravaglini at gmail.com Wed May 28 15:08:33 2025 From: simonetravaglini at gmail.com (Simone Travaglini) Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 17:08:33 +0200 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Missing Database Fields in VT8.3 fresh install In-Reply-To: References: <76bd96c1-c8e8-4c42-b4f0-efb113aec1ad@vinsoft.it> <4b3b6aeb-1ae4-4fab-9ac3-0818a78f1bea@vinsoft.it> Message-ID: Hi Prasad, what can you tell us about the frontend? Currently, there's a huge gap in technology and usability between Vtiger Open Source and Vtiger On Demand. Is anything planned for upcoming releases? Il giorno sab 5 apr 2025 alle ore 05:50 Prasad ha scritto: > Tom, > > We are focusing on better backend > that will provide strong base building > business apps. As of now team is > focusing on prototyping and building > proof-of-concept. > > Giving enough time for this exercise is > Important before opening up for receiving > feedback. > > While new things takes time to shape and > adoption, it?s important to get right ones > attended for production use. Keeping this > In mind we are not making major changes to > 8.X base. > > Be patient and have a good weekend. > > Regards, > Prasad > > On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 at 9:04 PM, Tom Brown wrote: > >> Agreed. >> >> I believe a lot of us want to contribute, however we can not do that >> without the sufficient resources/involvement from Vtiger. >> >> In addition, it is difficult to contribute NEW features without making >> the code more complicated. The most basic use case was explained by Ruben #1678 >> - Improvement of uitypes creation >> and it's been a >> minute since then. >> >> Back in 2022, the community was getting impatient and Sreenivas Kanumuru >> got involved too. Ref: >> http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2022-July/040819.html >> I feel like we are approaching the same point again. >> >> Prasad is and has been our hero, but heroes are in high demand. Given >> Prasad's seniority at Vtiger, I'm sure he has higher priorities and >> something has to give. It is a tough problem to have. That being >> said, @Prasad - are there any plans to allocate more resources to the >> open-source? Is that even feasible? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 1:53?PM Rub?n A. Estrada Orozco < >> rulotec1 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I agree, it's not Prasad's fault and that's clear. >>> >>> But I think the Open source version is just being updated to comply with >>> newer php versions so that it keeps being installed in shared hosting >>> accounts (cpanel). There's been hardly improvements or new features. Each >>> new version corrects bugs but introduces new ones. jquery is totally >>> obsolete now and so are many other libraries used by Vtiger. The coding >>> standards are low: functions that are hundreds of lines long, duplicate >>> code, no tests and no style standards. Still, I'm grateful for vtiger's >>> existence and I'm willing to contribute (I already do) but sometimes it >>> gets frustrating. >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:49?AM Vincenzo Bruno >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think we are al little bit OT, but I threw the stone... >>>> >>>> I don't agree on this. >>>> >>>> Switching on composer, switching on PHP 8.x and avoiding Deprecated >>>> messages where huge tasks and community pushed hardly for them. >>>> >>>> Prasad is quite responsive lately and this is positive! >>>> >>>> Maybe a single person cannot maintain a big project like Vtiger, I >>>> don't know how many of them are on the Community edition. I don't even know >>>> how community can contribute more, besides sending Issues and MR. There are >>>> 516 open issues, maybe Prasad needs help. Maybe Prasad should ask some >>>> help from community. >>>> >>>> I hove I have started a constructive discussion. >>>> >>>> Vincenzo >>>> Il 03/04/25 19:17, Rub?n A. Estrada Orozco ha scritto: >>>> >>>> I agree, there's too many bugs. To me, it looked like they were just >>>> blindly trying to be php8.2 compatible making code adaptations without >>>> testing. I guess Vtiger trusts us to report the bugs introduced in each new >>>> version. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 2:42?AM Vincenzo Bruno >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear community, >>>>> >>>>> A lot of headache configuring IMAP client in VT 8.3.0, then figuring >>>>> out >>>>> fields are missing in DB. >>>>> >>>>> The problem arises only in fresh installs, not in upgraded install. >>>>> >>>>> The fields are added in migration script: >>>>> modules/Migration/schema/820_to_830.php >>>>> but are missing in database schema: schema/DatabaseSchema.xml >>>>> >>>>> In order to quickly fix a fresh install of VT 8.3.0 we can manually >>>>> run >>>>> the code of 820_to_830.php script >>>>> >>>>> PS: Today I find a similar Issue was opened 1 month ago >>>>> https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/-/issues/1950 >>>>> >>>>> PPS: VT 8.3.0 is so buggy it must be retired from download or a bugfix >>>>> version 8.3.1 should be urgently released >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Vincenzo Bruno >>>>> Coopyleft - www.coopyleft.it >>>>> tel: 3287252923 >>>>> Digital Polis (www.digitalpolis.it) >>>>> Hacklab Cosenza (www.hlcs.it) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________http://www.vtiger.com/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Vincenzo Bruno >>>> Coopyleft - www.coopyleft.it >>>> tel: 3287252923 >>>> Digital Polis (www.digitalpolis.it) >>>> Hacklab Cosenza (www.hlcs.it) >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> http://www.vtiger.com/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://www.vtiger.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://www.vtiger.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > http://www.vtiger.com/ -- Simone Travaglini 328 5499846 Linkedin: Simone Travaglini Rispetta l'ambiente: non stampare questa mail se non ti ? veramente necessario! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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