[Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger current status and call to action

Rubén A. Estrada Orozco rulotec1 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 25 16:36:06 GMT 2021


Angelo,

Have you considered YetiForce?

Anybody else, have you considered or tried (or even switched to) YetiForce?
What are the pros/cons of YetiForce in comparison to vtiger?

Saludos

Rubén


On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 8:58 AM Vincenzo Bruno <v.bruno at vinsoft.it> wrote:

> Il 25/11/21 11:42, Angelo Paglialonga ha scritto:
>
> Hi Vincenzo, thank you!
> You can get involved here: https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm
> I’ll wait for your fixes and new features proposals!
>
> Without a username and password on code.vtiger.com I can't even clone the
> repo...
>
>
> Vincenzo
>
>
>
>
>
> Angelo
> _______________
>
> Angelo Paglialonga
> Consulente per soluzioni CRM ad alto ROI.
>
> Telefono: 3386077866
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> Il giorno 25 nov 2021, alle ore 11:30, Vincenzo Bruno <v.bruno at vinsoft.it>
> ha scritto:
>
> Hi Angelo,
> I fully agree with you.
> Unfortunately my journey in your plan ends at Step 1 because I'm not yet
> in the Git.
> I'm happy to contribute if I can, so I ask Vtiger staff to allow me in the
> code server.
>
> Vincenzo
>
> Il 25/11/21 10:27, Angelo Paglialonga ha scritto:
>
> Hi @all, this is the current status of vtiger open source , in my point of
> view:
>
> I had quite a few customers who simply ran away from vtiger open source
> because of the bugs and lack useful features vtiger competitors already
> have out of the box.
>
> *You may think they ran away from vtiger open source to vtiger on demand,
> but no, because of the bad experience they don’t trust vtiger brand anymore
> and go to Vtiger competitors.*
>
> You may think again, we as developers, can get paid for fixing bugs and
> for introducing custom modules, or even module replacements, but in the
> long game this is plain wrong even from an economic point of view, because
> bugs and lack of basic features scare away very good customers, those with
> big deals and big ideas to implement  in a crm project.
>
> Vtiger open source customers are not the same customers who buy vtiger
> cloud subscription, even if on vtiger.com the access to opensource
> download is almost hidden!
>
>
>
> Steve jobs said : "We have to let go of this notion that for Apple to
> win, Microsoft has to lose." - Steve Jobs, Macworld Expo Boston keynote,
> 1997
>
> *I think this quote can be rewritten like this: vtiger open source doesn’t
> have to suck so vtiger cloud can win, because we can both win.*
>
> This email is not just a way to complain pointlessly, the objective is to
> invite vtiger community and vtiger team to take action together!
>
> STEP 1:
>
> If you, vtiger team, don’t have time to merge bug fixes, engage in
> conversations with vtiger community on git, review and merge new
> functionalities as fast as they come on git,
> just let us do it, please.
>
> STEP 2:
>
> Vtiger community please submit on git all bugs you want to get fixed, all
> the features you think could help develop vtiger extending modules instead
> of replacing vtiger modules, anything to help closing the gap between
> vtiger open source and its competitors.
>
> STEP 3:
> vtiger community please help with development of anything set in STEP 2,
> if I fix something and you fix something else we both win, it’s the same
> for new functionalities.
>
>
> So, @all what do you think?
>
>
> _______________
>
> Angelo Paglialonga
> Consulente per soluzioni CRM ad alto ROI.
>
> Telefono: 3386077866
> Skype: angelo.paglialonga
> Web: https://www.angelopaglialonga.com
>
>
>
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