[Vtigercrm-developers] Composer

Wed Jul 28 06:17:29 GMT 2021

Thank you all for sharing the feedback.

Keep it coming.

On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 10:23 AM nilay khatri <nilay.spartan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> My take:
>
> 1. Agree with Ruben let's start with some selected dependencies first,
> which are currently actively maintained. I don't think we need to bundle
> them with Vtiger.
> 2. This is a general challenge. I am not fully aware, but cPanel for
> example has been doing some work to introduce support for composer. In
> general where composer is not available or you can not SSH, steps are
> provided to setup locally and then upload the files via FTP. It is
> generally well known thing to anyone who works on FTP only.
> 3. The packages do not have standard format, one can put the files in src
> other in dist as such there is no mechanism to do that. Moreover as per
> composer philosophy, a package must contain all required tests, docs etc.
> More on this here: https://github.com/composer/composer/issues/1750
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 11:12 PM Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <
> rulotec1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok, I understand Parsad,
>>
>> I think we could proceed little by little. Moving only some well known
>> libraries at first like  PHPMailer which is actively being maintained.
>> There are other libraries like CKFinder (if I recall the name correctly)
>> which are still being used in vtiger but have been dead for a long time. I
>> don't know what we should do about those. Find a replacement, I guess.
>>
>> About how it would work with commercial hosting companies. Maybe create a
>> build with the dependent libraries already there, but move the libraries
>> out of the code repository.
>>
>> About 3. I have no idea.
>>
>> Saludos
>>
>> Rubén
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 7:34 AM Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Ruben,
>>>
>>> There were many questions on the composer adoption for long-term:
>>>
>>>    1. Should we bundle the dependency (as they may vanish if not
>>>    maintained) or change rapidly
>>>    2. How would composer work on hosting providers (who provide Cpanel
>>>    or FTP) based site management?
>>>       - Will two different builds - one-with and one-without
>>>       dependencies be maintained?
>>>    3. Composer install brings in dependent docs/tests etc... Is there a
>>>    way to do optimal install?
>>>       - How to cut-down the size of package - can this be achieved?
>>>       Without this overall size of application zip will increase.
>>>
>>> This discussion thread was opened to gather feedback before planning the
>>> way ahead.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Prasad
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 4:57 AM Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <
>>> rulotec1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Composer was supposed to make it into 7.4.
>>>> Would it be a priority for 7.5? I think this was one of the most voted
>>>> changes when Uma asked for input for 7.4.
>>>>
>>>> Saludos
>>>>
>>>> Rubén
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 11:18 AM Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since we are talking about composer, what exactly do you want to do?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How would composer work on hosting providers (who provide Cpanel or
>>>>> FTP) based site management?
>>>>>
>>>>> You mentioned npm, are you guy’s touching frontend and
>>>>>> migrating/integrating vue or some other library?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to check how npm dependencies and sub-dependencies are
>>>>> handled for comparison.
>>>>> Where some night-mares was cited due to version different in
>>>>> child-dependencies. Hope such are not the
>>>>> case with composer - but wanted to still check.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Prasad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 9:19 PM Sukhdev Mohan <s.mohan at myti.it> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. When creating composer.json you’re inserting all the
>>>>>>    dependencies and you can lock versions of the libraries you are importing.
>>>>>>    Also look at PSR 4 for namespaces: in the same composer.json you define the
>>>>>>    namespace for your app.
>>>>>>    2. Yup, I’d leave it upon admin the decision to update. Vtiger
>>>>>>    can advise and don’t proceed with update with dependencies aren’t met.
>>>>>>    3. If core depends on something that you need to import/install
>>>>>>    how can you proceed with installation/update? In other projects when you
>>>>>>    install through composer it handles dependencies and proceeds to install.
>>>>>>    May be also vtiger should create it’s composer install?
>>>>>>    4. Composer doesn’t needs to be installed globally, if the user
>>>>>>    who downloads composer has RWX access he can launch composer and download
>>>>>>    the dependencies, which are PHP code and binary files. These may require
>>>>>>    some components that are missing in the standard php installation (ie.
>>>>>>    ioncube), so this is upon the single user.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since we are talking about composer, what exactly do you want to do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You mentioned npm, are you guy’s touching frontend and
>>>>>> migrating/integrating vue or some other library?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sukhdev Mohan*
>>>>>> *Developer*
>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2021, 16:39 +0200, Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Team,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know I'm too late on this thread - did some homework using composer
>>>>>> and npm packages got some questions that need assistance:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. With composer  - we are not expected to package the dependencies?
>>>>>> Would admin expected to (composer install) command-line and then
>>>>>> launch the install.php?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. When a package need update in subsequent version of Vtiger
>>>>>> Would admin be expected to (composer update) command-line and then
>>>>>> launch the migration.php?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. What if composer fails with unmet / unavailable packages - should
>>>>>> install.php or
>>>>>> migration.php check if all dependencies was installed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. How would composer work on hosting providers (who provide Cpanel
>>>>>> or FTP) based site management?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Prasad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:47 AM Adam Heinz <amh at metricwise.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone on the vtiger team looked into the use of Composer to
>>>>>>> supply dependencies?  It would certainly make things a little more
>>>>>>> flexible, reduce the size of the download, and discourage the light hacking
>>>>>>> that tends to go on when you have the code checked into the main
>>>>>>> development branch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://getcomposer.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I recently wired our systems up to use it to pull in the Sauce Labs
>>>>>>> "sausage" Selenium web driver for our automated tests.  Doing a bit more
>>>>>>> research, it seems to be the *de facto* replacement for PEAR these
>>>>>>> days.
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