[Vtigercrm-developers] Vtiger CRM 7.4.0 GA Release

[Prasad]

>
> Are you talking about a major version for open source or for on-demand?


Opensource

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 7:21 AM Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <rulotec1 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for the answer Prasad,
>
> Are you talking about a major version for open source or for on-demand?
>
> I think it is entirely ok if the Vtiger team decides to focus on something
> different from the open source project, because, at the end of the day, you
> are a private company. However I think you guys would help a lot by being
> transparent and setting realistic expectations for us developers because at
> times it can be frustrating. I've been around for a few years and I've
> always felt like the Vtiger approach towards the open source developers is
> "figure it out yourself" for most aspects of the project.
>
> Saludos
>
> Rubén
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 1:40 PM Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Ruben,
>>
>> We are preparing ourselves for our next major version of ground-work.
>> It's taking up a major portion of our time at the moment.
>>
>> We did want our community developers to keep the momentum on 7.5.0 fixes
>> and enhancements - so was the expectation for the next release.
>>
>> FYI... Uma is assisting us with an internal implementation.
>> Thanks for checking.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Prasad
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 9:43 PM Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <
>> rulotec1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm curious about the meaning of: "Next version would be 7,5.0 more
>>> driven through community patches."
>>>
>>> Does that mean that you guys at vtiger will wait for whatever we can fix
>>> until Jan 2022 and include that in 7.5? Is it like now your role is going
>>> to be limited to merge patches but not to produce them?
>>>
>>> Currently what are Vtiger's own resources dedicated to Vtiger Open
>>> Source?
>>> Is Uma still in the project?
>>>
>>>
>>> Saludos
>>>
>>> Rubén
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:31 AM Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Mohan,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Prasad
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 2:48 PM Sukhdev Mohan <s.mohan at myti.it> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Prasad,
>>>>>
>>>>> As per my several previous mails, a Wishlist is not a roadmap. Unless
>>>>> there’s a roadmap, you can’t coordinate and schedule anything. So make the
>>>>> time to create a roadmap, so more people can take tasks and help.
>>>>> "Send MR” and “Wishlist” aren’t acceptable unless there is a clear
>>>>> wish to implement them properly. This reflects also in no documentation and
>>>>> legacy code that sits there weighing.
>>>>> Make a Roadmap, document each and every aspect of this platform. You
>>>>> can’t just say “this is a community orientated release”, what does that
>>>>> even mean if clearly you don’t want to even state what this release will
>>>>> contain?
>>>>>
>>>>> If it’s your Wishlist surely you’ll have a plan to implement them.
>>>>> Share it and discuss the details, otherwise make time and discuss publicly
>>>>> - there a number of ways to do it - and let’s make this really community
>>>>> orientated.
>>>>>
>>>>> A Wishlist isn’t a roadmap. Hope I’ve made it clear.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sukhdev Mohan*
>>>>> *Developer*
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9 Aug 2021, 10:51 +0200, Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Mohan,
>>>>>
>>>>> It takes time to make a roadmap.
>>>>>
>>>>> I stated the wishlist of mine - I hope you did read it carefully.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Prasad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 1:21 PM Sukhdev Mohan <s.mohan at myti.it> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not a roadmap nor we are a genie in a lamp. Please try to
>>>>>> articulate a strategy.
>>>>>> Jan 2022 is very close so try to give a priority and if you want we
>>>>>> can have a discussion over discord or what so ever to try and figure out
>>>>>> the right order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Il lun 9 ago 2021, 09:44 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wishlist:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - Bug Fixes on 7.4.0
>>>>>>>    - PHP8 compatibility
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Target: Jan 2022
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 12:59 PM Sukhdev Mohan <s.mohan at myti.it>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why I'm not surprised ?
>>>>>>>> Dude even if it's community driven there needs to be a clear
>>>>>>>> roadmap to estimate next release time, testing and what to concentrate on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's not a little feature we are talking about but the new release:
>>>>>>>> we should allmdecide what needs to be done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Update dependencies
>>>>>>>> - Remove non maintained dependencies
>>>>>>>> - Introduce Composer to manage them easily
>>>>>>>> - PSR0-4?
>>>>>>>> - PHP 8 compatibility
>>>>>>>> And there much more. We need a clear roadmap period.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Il lun 9 ago 2021, 09:18 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Next version would be 7,5.0 more driven through community patches.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please send it over.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 11:30 AM nilay khatri <
>>>>>>>>> nilay.spartan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Uma,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is the roadmap for the next release?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  It has been requested several times after the new releases to
>>>>>>>>>> have a plan for the next version.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is better if we were towards defined objectives. I feel the
>>>>>>>>>> next version must be focused towards Library updates and introducing
>>>>>>>>>> composer, solely.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bootstrap, PHPMailer, Jquery, Select2 must be upgraded if
>>>>>>>>>> nothing. I understand there are dependencies on jQuery, which you have
>>>>>>>>>> mentioned earlier. But I feel then we should replace those dependencies, if
>>>>>>>>>> they are not actively maintained!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We have many patches and new features ready to be merged with
>>>>>>>>>> Open Source but without a clear roadmap at least for the next version, that
>>>>>>>>>> becomes a speed breaker.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 2:36 PM Uma S <uma.s at vtiger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Migration issue from 7.3 to 7.4 has been resolved, Please refer
>>>>>>>>>>> here for issue
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/issues/1630> details.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 2:50 AM Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <
>>>>>>>>>>> rulotec1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Be careful if you are upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/issues/1630
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Saludos
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rubén
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 3:01 PM Sukhdev Mohan <s.mohan at myti.it>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s great. What I meant was that vtiger is supporting a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of legacy code which should be migrated to php 7 at least, since there’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>> code from PHP 4 (it was released in 2000) there will be a lot of code that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has to be replaced/rewrite.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was expecting that this release would have at least composer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that the internal libraries would be updated, but no mention in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release note.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In general it’s your personal experience you’ve updated php
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version on your own risk, it’d be nice if the official installation manual
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reported that it’s at least compatibile (it’d be great if it tells exactly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which tecnologi and version are required).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sukhdev Mohan* | *Software Developer**5*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Jul 2021, 20:24 +0200, Home Plus <gohomeplustv at gmail.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use 7.4 now with 7.3 with no issue...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 1:52 PM Sukhdev Mohan <s.mohan at myti.it>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Ruben. Even though support for php7.2 will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ending this year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recommended is PHP 7.4 but from a simple phostan analysis,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the code base has some very old code (PHP 4...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Il mar 20 lug 2021, 19:44 Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rulotec1 at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the manual says: PHP 5.2+, 7.2+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does that even mean? Does it mean it's ok to use php 52
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with vtiger 7.4? I really don't think that would work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it mean I can use php 7.4 or even 8?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel those requirements should be vtiger-version specific.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Furthermore, we cannot expect the average user to somehow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find that manual. I think it should be clearly stated in the installation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process in Vtiger and not be ambiguous as it currently is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 12:32 PM Uma S <uma.s at vtiger.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ruben,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This information is enclosed in the manual - Reference
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm-manual/wikis/Administration-Docs>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 9:59 PM Alexander Allen <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alexander.allenz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also the best server configuration for this version will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations for this release!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> El martes, 20 de julio de 2021, Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rulotec1 at gmail.com> escribió:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the good news Uma!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the recommended php/mysql-mariadb version? Could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we add a small section in the release notes with that information? I think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is important and, as of now, cannot be officially found anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saludos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rubén
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Martin Allen <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> martin.allen at exe-squared.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who doesn’t love new release day!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well done to all involved! We’ll be rolling it out soon!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com> *On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of* Angelo Paglialonga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 20 July 2021 14:58
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Vtiger CRM 7.4.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GA Release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angelo Paglialonga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consulente per soluzioni CRM ad alto ROI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Telefono: 3386077866
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: angelo.paglialonga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: https://www.angelopaglialonga.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 20 lug 2021, alle ore 15:46, Alan Lord <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alanslists at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice one,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Uma.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/07/2021 12:13, Uma S wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Developer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are glad to announce the Vtiger CRM 7.4.0 GA release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the following notable enhancements and bug fixes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This release offers improvements in security,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance, usability and stability.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Refer here for detailed Release Notes <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/wikis/Release-Notes#version-740rc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would like to express our special thanks to all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developers for their contributions through merge requests, validation, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Special thanks to the following members who actively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participated in this release cycle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Alan Lord
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Its4you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Ruben Estrada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Martin Allen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Code80
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Angelo.paglialonga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vtiger 7.4.0 Download Link :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.vtiger.com/open-source-crm/download-open-source/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.vtiger.com/open-source-crm/download-open-source/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you notice any issues, please report on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code.vtiger.com <http://code.vtiger.com/>by prefixing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the title with 7.4.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uma.S
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vtiger Team
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>>>>>>>>>>> With
>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Uma.S
>>>>>>>>>>> Vtiger Team
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