[Vtigercrm-developers] vtigercrm-developers Digest, Vol 176, Issue 41

Sukhdev Mohan s.mohan at myti.it
Wed Sep 16 07:29:53 GMT 2020


I request you to speak in English rather than Italian, there are few Italian developers and the vast majority is English speaking.

Best Regards,
Sukhdev Mohan | Software Developer







> Il giorno 16 set 2020, alle ore 08:33, Andrea Alberici <a.alberici at evolutivo.it> ha scritto:
> 
> creare un team per monitorare le differenze con vtiger 7.3 e corebos
> 
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 08:29, Andrea Alberici <a.alberici at evolutivo.it <mailto:a.alberici at evolutivo.it>> wrote:
> creare un settore per marketing su vtiger 
> aggiornare vtiger-italia
> freetiger.com <http://freetiger.com/>
> 
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Let's make 7.4 fruitful (Uma S)
>    2. Re: Let's make 7.4 fruitful (nilay khatri)
>    3. Re: Let's make 7.4 fruitful (Alan Lord)
>    4. Re: Let's make 7.4 fruitful (Martin Allen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:28:05 +0530
> From: Uma S <uma.s at vtiger.com <mailto:uma.s at vtiger.com>>
> To: vtigercrm-developers <vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com <mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com>>
> Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Let's make 7.4 fruitful
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> Dear Developer,
> 
> We are happy to accept more ideas from the community on what are the top 10
> wish enhancements for 7.4? So that we can make the release fruitful.
> 
> I would request all the community members to take part in this to share
> their thoughts.
> 
> -- 
> With
> Best Regards
> Uma.S
> Vtiger Team
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> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 12:13:01 +0530
> From: nilay khatri <nilay.spartan at gmail.com <mailto:nilay.spartan at gmail.com>>
> To: Vtiger Developers List <vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com <mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Let's make 7.4 fruitful
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> 1. #1425, In workflows the Event start date time should support expressions
> 2. Improve import routine  #1484, #1483, #1427, #1386, #1172
> 3. Login enhancements  #1439, #1285  and support for SAML
> 4. #1467, Status column in Campaigns should be configurable
> 5. #1459 Make Overlays configurable
> 6. #1457, Improvement to Tags
> 7. Upgrade all dependent libraries
> 8. #1387, #775 (3 years old)
> 9. Text wrapping, Listview #1437, #1421,  #1417, #1411, #1378
> 10. Mobile module - #1325 to #1341
> 
> 
> And all the usability and enhancement tagged issues!
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:32 AM Uma S <uma.s at vtiger.com <mailto:uma.s at vtiger.com>> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Developer,
> >
> > We are happy to accept more ideas from the community on what are the top
> > 10 wish enhancements for 7.4? So that we can make the release fruitful.
> >
> > I would request all the community members to take part in this to share
> > their thoughts.
> >
> > --
> > With
> > Best Regards
> > Uma.S
> > Vtiger Team
> > _______________________________________________
> > http://www.vtiger.com/ <http://www.vtiger.com/>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:40:59 +0100
> From: Alan Lord <alanslists at gmail.com <mailto:alanslists at gmail.com>>
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com <mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Let's make 7.4 fruitful
> Message-ID: <e4797809-489b-cf23-8b98-1b304e33f460 at gmail.com <mailto:e4797809-489b-cf23-8b98-1b304e33f460 at gmail.com>>
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> Thanks for reaching out Uma,
> 
> Here are some of my suggestions (not in any preferential order):
> 
> 1. Get vtiger up-to-date in terms of requirements for PHP etc. And then 
> have a process/plan to keep it up-to-date, i.e. using unit tests, 
> linters etc. FWIW, php7.3 ends active support in 2 months. 7.4 has been 
> out for nearly a year already.
> 
> 2. Improve the server/rest APIs so they provide better information (i.e. 
> optional user-level formatting of returned, data, see 
> http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038853.html <http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038853.html> 
> and 
> http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038838.html <http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038838.html>). 
> Maybe move the REST API to json format like vtiger cloud?
> 
> 3. Import the webhook workflow functionality from Cloud
> 
> 4. Add support to vtws_retrieve so any user can get "safe" information 
> about _any_ other user. See #1155 and 
> http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-April/038517.html <http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-April/038517.html>
> 
> 5. Fix #676, #1003 and try to remove that horrible hack 
> vtlib_setup_modulevars(). All the necessary information should be in the 
> respective modules' class file anyway. I really fail to see what the 
> point of this is and it continues to cause problems.
> 
> 6. Code cleanup. There are multiple copies of the long and complex 
> date/time structures such as in modules/Vtiger/models/Field.php line 
> 653, modules/Reports/ReportRun.php line 1740, modules/Reports/Report.php 
> line 990, modules/CustomView/models/Record.php line 805, 
> modules/CustomView/CustomView.php line 569... There are so many 
> instances of code duplication (not just the above)... Put it all in ONE 
> place, then there's only one place we have to fix later on.
> 
> 7. Fix filters so admins can remove/edit all of them and default landing 
> when not "all": #706, #1461
> 
> 8. #1240
> 
> 9. See merge request #585 which added support for customising core 
> language files. Please extend functionality in a way similar to my 
> suggestion 
> https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/merge_requests/585#note_8739 <https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/merge_requests/585#note_8739>
> 
> 10. Update online documentation for the Open Source platform. It's not 
> been changed for *ages*. (If you, vtiger don't have the bandwidth, then 
> let us in the community have some level of access to the wiki or 
> whatever and let us write some of it - you could have a moderator's role 
> to approve/deny if you like).
> 
> That should do for now ;-)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Al
> 
> On 11/09/2020 06:58, Uma S wrote:
> > Dear Developer,
> > 
> > We are happy to accept more ideas from the community on what are the top 
> > 10 wish enhancements for 7.4? So that we can make the release fruitful.
> > 
> > I would request all the community members to take part in this to share 
> > their thoughts.
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 10:29:28 +0100
> From: Martin Allen <martin.allen at clystnet.com <mailto:martin.allen at clystnet.com>>
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com <mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Let's make 7.4 fruitful
> Message-ID:
>         <CAL1vgxEqfamDo4X4sGmu1V7K+zOHKRmhd_QN3FvFcVr_h3+-EQ at mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAL1vgxEqfamDo4X4sGmu1V7K%2BzOHKRmhd_QN3FvFcVr_h3%2B-EQ at mail.gmail.com>>
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> 
> These may be more appropriate as vTiger 8 aims but still:
> 1) PHP compatibility - as Alan said PHP 7.4 compatibility should be a
> priority but also thinking about using PHP8 which is very close to being
> released.
> 2) Dependent libraries using Composer to manage, this then handles all
> updates required, and easy to know which versions of libraries are being
> used and can be specified which version should be installed.
> 3) PSR 12 (or even PSR 2!) coding style and PSR 4 autoloading (
> https://www.php-fig.org/psr/ <https://www.php-fig.org/psr/>)
> 4) Installation via Composer?
> 5) Update documentation
> 6) Better logging of Errors and improved Error messages - most of the time
> we just see a blank screen, or a message that is very misleading e.g.
> "Something went wrong in a workflow" - would be much nicer if it told me
> which workflow! (Logging of errors by default as well, rather than having
> to actively switch it on!)
> 7) Making the codebase suitable to be managed via GIT after installation to
> allow for customisations - currently the GIT repository on code.vtiger.com <http://code.vtiger.com/>
> contains multiple .zip files which are next to useless being managed in
> GIT. We maintain our own repository which is the code AFTER it has been
> installed, and fork that repository for every new installation we do. We
> also have created our own .gitignore (after MUCH trial and error!) so
> having a community version would be nice!
> 8) CLI database migration scripts for creating / updating database between
> different versions
> 
> Oh and all the outstanding bugs ;)
> 
> Martin Allen
> 
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> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 09:41, Alan Lord <alanslists at gmail.com <mailto:alanslists at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for reaching out Uma,
> >
> > Here are some of my suggestions (not in any preferential order):
> >
> > 1. Get vtiger up-to-date in terms of requirements for PHP etc. And then
> > have a process/plan to keep it up-to-date, i.e. using unit tests,
> > linters etc. FWIW, php7.3 ends active support in 2 months. 7.4 has been
> > out for nearly a year already.
> >
> > 2. Improve the server/rest APIs so they provide better information (i.e.
> > optional user-level formatting of returned, data, see
> >
> > http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038853.html <http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038853.html>
> > and
> >
> > http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038838.html <http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-August/038838.html>).
> >
> > Maybe move the REST API to json format like vtiger cloud?
> >
> > 3. Import the webhook workflow functionality from Cloud
> >
> > 4. Add support to vtws_retrieve so any user can get "safe" information
> > about _any_ other user. See #1155 and
> >
> > http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-April/038517.html <http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2020-April/038517.html>
> >
> > 5. Fix #676, #1003 and try to remove that horrible hack
> > vtlib_setup_modulevars(). All the necessary information should be in the
> > respective modules' class file anyway. I really fail to see what the
> > point of this is and it continues to cause problems.
> >
> > 6. Code cleanup. There are multiple copies of the long and complex
> > date/time structures such as in modules/Vtiger/models/Field.php line
> > 653, modules/Reports/ReportRun.php line 1740, modules/Reports/Report.php
> > line 990, modules/CustomView/models/Record.php line 805,
> > modules/CustomView/CustomView.php line 569... There are so many
> > instances of code duplication (not just the above)... Put it all in ONE
> > place, then there's only one place we have to fix later on.
> >
> > 7. Fix filters so admins can remove/edit all of them and default landing
> > when not "all": #706, #1461
> >
> > 8. #1240
> >
> > 9. See merge request #585 which added support for customising core
> > language files. Please extend functionality in a way similar to my
> > suggestion
> > https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/merge_requests/585#note_8739 <https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/merge_requests/585#note_8739>
> >
> > 10. Update online documentation for the Open Source platform. It's not
> > been changed for *ages*. (If you, vtiger don't have the bandwidth, then
> > let us in the community have some level of access to the wiki or
> > whatever and let us write some of it - you could have a moderator's role
> > to approve/deny if you like).
> >
> > That should do for now ;-)
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Al
> >
> > On 11/09/2020 06:58, Uma S wrote:
> > > Dear Developer,
> > >
> > > We are happy to accept more ideas from the community on what are the top
> > > 10 wish enhancements for 7.4? So that we can make the release fruitful.
> > >
> > > I would request all the community members to take part in this to share
> > > their thoughts.
> > _______________________________________________
> > http://www.vtiger.com/ <http://www.vtiger.com/>
> >
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