[Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Long Time Support :: coreBOS

Pabiszczak, Błażej b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
Sun Mar 30 18:27:00 GMT 2014


Can you give me access to test version Your mail module (access to
roundcube integrate with CRM)? I will compare the two modules and I'll send
you the information.

Z poważaniem / Regards
Błażej Pabiszczak
M: +48.884999123
E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl


2014-03-30 20:01 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>:

>  Yes, if possible. Just curious...
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> El 30/03/14 19:55, Pabiszczak, Błażej escribió:
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> Good question :P You wanna name of license (like GPL, VPL, etc)?
>
>  Z poważaniem / Regards
> Błażej Pabiszczak
> M: +48.884999123
> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>
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> 2014-03-30 19:44 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>:
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>>  What license is that?
>>
>> Joe
>> TSolucio
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>> El 30/03/14 19:37, Pabiszczak, Błażej escribió:
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>> You can do what you want with our module for testing.
>> If You buy, You can do what you want with code (1 license = 1 customer
>> (you can have many servers like test, prod, dev, lab etc.).
>> You can sell our module for Yours clients, but You need pay for every
>> customer and send us info about customer (we create internal license).
>>
>>  Z poważaniem / Regards
>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>> M: +48.884999123
>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>
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>> 2014-03-30 19:31 GMT+02:00 socialboostdk <socialboostdk at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Ok - sounds exciting!
>>>
>>>  I of course understands that there is a license-fee, but will it be
>>> closed or open source? I use a heavily modified version of vtiger (6) and
>>> generally need to be able to modify the modules I use.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 March 2014 19:25, Pabiszczak, Błażej <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>wrote:
>>>
>>>> We publish 10-15 modules in next week on our site.
>>>>
>>>>  Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  2014-03-29 22:42 GMT+01:00 socialboostdk <socialboostdk at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hi Błażej,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Valid points.  Are those modules available somehow? Ie. can they be
>>>>> purchased, and would the license allow for me to edit the source?
>>>>>
>>>>>  OSSMail looks very interesting but I need some other functionality
>>>>> also, which I could do myself.
>>>>>
>>>>>  :) Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29 March 2014 18:04, Pabiszczak, Błażej <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In my opinion you have done wrong. Why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - You use a ten-year architecture (from 6 months is new)
>>>>>>     - You create Vtiger fork (it takes a lot of people and a lot of
>>>>>>    time, How many programmers You have (3-5?)? You need 15 and a lot of money).
>>>>>>     - We have OSSMail (like yours coreBOSMail), which has more
>>>>>>    options and is 100% integrated with Vtiger (modifying only 3 system files
>>>>>>    in version 6.1 will not have to modify any).
>>>>>>    - LTS is expensive to maintain and slows the progression! (for
>>>>>>    large customers we offer SLAs for versions 5.4).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently we have 30 working modules for Vtiger 6. Our company began
>>>>>> to migrate to version 6 over 9 months ago! We understand your decisions,
>>>>>> but making a mistake that you do this on version 5.4 and not 6.0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  And what would happen if our common system was developed by Team
>>>>>> Vtiger (Vtiger 6), and companies like yours and my (&others), have joined
>>>>>> forces (how will work mail module, if we built it together with *VTIGER
>>>>>> TEAM*)?.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  *Together, we are able to offer more! Together with Vtiger
>>>>>> Team! Many companies do not understand how many loses does not work
>>>>>> together!*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Sorry for my EN :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-03-29 16:32 GMT+01:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree, in major part I am totally with you. There has been a LOT
>>>>>>> of debating going on around here before we took this step.
>>>>>>> I understand your programmers (I am one) and that is fine with me. I
>>>>>>> encourage you to continue to support VT6, that is the way to go. We are
>>>>>>> catering to the part of community and users who want to push VT5 a little
>>>>>>> further, we want to control our destiny.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> coreBOS WILL have something special, give us a little time, we just
>>>>>>> started :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>> TSolucio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> El 28/03/14 09:24, Pabiszczak, Błażej escribió:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Vtiger 5.4 is old architecture, none of our programmer does not
>>>>>>> want to return to it.
>>>>>>>  Does coreBOS have something special?
>>>>>>>  On your website, I only see the integration of roundcube, the rest
>>>>>>> of the links do not work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>>>>>  M: +48.884999123
>>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2014-03-27 17:24 GMT+01:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This post is to announce the creation of the coreBOS project.
>>>>>>>> coreBOS starts from the rich inheritance of vtiger CRM 5.4. with intention
>>>>>>>> to give support to the big user and developer base for 5.x.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> During the birth of this project the first name that was given to
>>>>>>>> it was vt5LTS, borrowing the name from Ubuntu, that stands for vtiger CRM 5
>>>>>>>> Long Time Support, but we didn't want to conflict with vtiger name branding
>>>>>>>> nor create conflict in any way in the developer and user community. Also we
>>>>>>>> understand that we will quickly drift away from vtiger CRM line of action
>>>>>>>> and be something else, so we thought that the name didn't make justice to
>>>>>>>> all the potential we see in the project and where we want to take it. We
>>>>>>>> saw a near future where coreBOS would have it's own merits and reasons to
>>>>>>>> stand tall for it's own right so we gave it a name and started our
>>>>>>>> adventure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We aren't creating this project out of disrespect or spite, we do
>>>>>>>> not have a bad relation with the vtiger company nor with the community, we
>>>>>>>> plan to keep investing time in vtiger CRM 6 and future releases, although
>>>>>>>> it will be less than what we have done for the 5.x branch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In fact I have to admit that I like a lot of things I see in vtiger
>>>>>>>> CRM 6 and will most probably downgrade some of them, I think vtiger is
>>>>>>>> going down the right track with VT6 and with the change in community
>>>>>>>> support of the past weeks (incredible!!).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For more information, please come to http://corebos.tsolucio.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We invite you to join us :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>> TSolucio
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