[Vtigercrm-developers] New Extensions Store! - Take a Tour

Wed Jul 2 05:24:22 GMT 2014

Hy Sreenivas

Am Montag, 30. Juni 2014 schrieb Sreenivas Kanumuru :

> Stefan,
>
> *Did you allow developers to open up the license for multiple
>> installations? My Customers could install every license on 2 systems to
>> allow a development setup. Without this, it will be hard to create big
>> extensions.*
>
>
> By default license will be locked to an installation. Developers can
> choose to NOT lock the license to an installation (checkbox). If hardware
> locking
> is disable, users who copy the extension file manually to another
> installation can use the extension (the extension should be installed via
> the command line
> console tool on the second machine)
>
> Currently, the login to the store is done automatically through an id that
> is unique for each instance. So, it is not possible to login to store with
> same user id
> from different installations. We plan to relax this by allowing users to
> signup and login to the store with their own chosen id. With this, they
> will be able to login
> to the store with same id from multiple installations. Once this is there,
> we can provide the option of multiple installations for a single purchase.
>
> The Colorizer module in the preview was only shown as an example in the
> Store. While we have intention to add support for coloring records in a
> list, such a
> feature is not yet released. We would be happy to see the Colorizer module
> in the Store.
>
> Regards,
> Sreenivas
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Stefan Warnat <ich at stefanwarnat.de
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ich at stefanwarnat.de');>> wrote:
>
>> Hy,
>>
>> This looks great. Additionally if you extend the API Framework in 6.1
>> multiple times.
>> Did you allow developers to open up the license for multiple
>> installations? My Customers could install every license on 2 systems to
>> allow a development setup. Without this, it will be hard to create big
>> extensions.
>> I don't want to bind my customers to hard with the licenses. In my view
>> of the world, a too hard license agreement will create illegal movements.
>>
>> I'm a little bit confused, because in preview you have a module
>> "Colorizer" which looks like my "Colorizer" module.
>> How could I register for an account in this store? Nothing speaks against
>> my modules for this store. I think it would fit greatly.
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','svk at vtiger.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, Conrado. The Store will be available in On Demand instances as well.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 3:14 PM, MAGGI Conrado <comaggi at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','comaggi at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sreenivas, Hi..
>>>>
>>>> Will be the marketplace available in  the on-demand version?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Conrado
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','svk at vtiger.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  We love the experience of installing apps on the Mobile app stores,
>>>>> and trying to replicate that in Vtiger. If the revenue we generate from the
>>>>> app store (25% of the app fee) is good, then that means developers will be
>>>>> lot happier (with 75%) which is going to make us even more happier.
>>>>>
>>>>> The main hurdle is that the framework API limitations require some
>>>>> system file changes, which makes the extension non-compliant. That is
>>>>> something we are working to address this and see more extensions listed.
>>>>> However, we will not be able to solve this in 1 version.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Sreenivas
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sreenivas Kanumuru
>>>>> vtiger Team
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:04 PM, SIAM Translations LLP <
>>>>> info at siam-translations.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info at siam-translations.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If clumsy user will mess system than developers should be able to
>>>>>> help him. I suggest to create directory of qualified devs next to app
>>>>>> store.
>>>>>> On the other hand vtiger team got right to generate revenue - just
>>>>>> limiting existing functions could be controversial
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 Jun 2014, at 17:10, Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','svk at vtiger.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Holbok, Blazej,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We considered keeping the 'install from file' option in the UI, but
>>>>>> felt it could lead to users installing unverified extensions that
>>>>>> might damage the installation. We wanted to add one level of
>>>>>> difficulty for installing such extensions to ensure that
>>>>>> users are aware of the risk. We will review this plan if the command
>>>>>> line tool becomes difficult for users to use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note: The one limitation of the command line tool is that developers
>>>>>> will not be able to protect their
>>>>>> extensions (Store offers this feature to encrypt php files and tie it
>>>>>> to specific MAC address )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Sreenivas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <
>>>>>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl');>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *We expect that in the same way it will be solved.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl');>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2014-06-23 11:04 GMT+02:00 Holbok István <holbok at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','holbok at gmail.com');>>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Dear Vtiger Team and All other list members,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are several good examples how to organize module install
>>>>>>>> manager. Please look at the Joomla! project solutions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <joomla-vtiger.png>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This approach can be utilized by the vtiger project also.
>>>>>>>> In the Joomla! project you can find a method to
>>>>>>>> - install from the web (e.g. from the vtiger store)
>>>>>>>> - install from package (this method was used in earlier vtiger
>>>>>>>> version), the package can be placed in a directory or in a URL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and there is a method to install extension by Discover.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the vtiger - counting future demands - would be very useful:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - possibility to install from vtiger store
>>>>>>>>    - possibility to install from package
>>>>>>>>    - possibility to install by bootstrap string (for developing
>>>>>>>>    using vtlib API)
>>>>>>>>    - or possibility to install by CLI
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And should be there a possibility to Update all earlier installed
>>>>>>>> extensions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not suggest to close any earlier used possibility to install
>>>>>>>> extensions into vtiger.
>>>>>>>> By my opinion the install from store possibility should be an extra
>>>>>>>> over the earlier used methods but not a replacement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kindest regards:
>>>>>>>> Istvan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> üdvözlettel:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Holbok István*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +3670-342-0900
>>>>>>>> *e-mail:* holbok at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','holbok at gmail.com');>
>>>>>>>> *SkyPe:* holboki
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  2014.06.23. 10:29 keltezéssel, Sreenivas Kanumuru írta:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, Matteo. We will improve framework APIs to reduce the need to
>>>>>>>> modify system files. We understand that is important for the success of the
>>>>>>>> Store.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Blazej,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  *If you will not publish modules that modifying system files, we
>>>>>>>>> are forced to create our own fork.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Console (command line tool) will allow the installation of such
>>>>>>>> modules that are not listed on the store. It is a complementary tool that
>>>>>>>> will be useful for developers and users who want to install extensions that
>>>>>>>> are not yet published on the store. In essence, there are 2 ways to install
>>>>>>>> extensions. first through the store (certainly more easier), and the other
>>>>>>>> is through the Console. If we are finding that users are having difficulty
>>>>>>>> with the Console, then we will try to provide a UI for the console (that is
>>>>>>>> separate from the store).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Andrew,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *I understand that after migration from 6.0 to 6.1 custom modules
>>>>>>>>> will not be migrated but i have to install 'em manually. It means that
>>>>>>>>> database tables will be untouched. Is it correct?*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Yes, upgrading framework from 6.0 to 6.1 will leave custom
>>>>>>>> modules untouched. They will need to be updated manually through the Store
>>>>>>>> (possible only if the name matche) , or from outside the store  (through
>>>>>>>> the Console).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   *Can I claim one extension to be published - email campaigns?
>>>>>>>>> Vtiger really need it to make marketing guys happy and stick to one app
>>>>>>>>> only. *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Thanks for the suggestion. We are discussing internally on the On
>>>>>>>> Demand features we can release to open source and support well. I expect we
>>>>>>>> will be releasing a couple of extensions initially (Quickbooks, Magento
>>>>>>>> connectors for example) and add more over time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>>>> Sreenivas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Matteo Baranzoni <
>>>>>>>> info at greenbitweb.com
>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info at greenbitweb.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that not allow modifyng system files in extensione store
>>>>>>>>> was the only possible solution but vtiger needs to improve to ensure that
>>>>>>>>> they are not necessary!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2014-06-23 8:31 GMT+02:00 Pabiszczak, Błażej <
>>>>>>>>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl');>>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Hi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Even if we publish an extension, we will list similar
>>>>>>>>>>> extensions published by other developers, as long as they meet the
>>>>>>>>>>> guidelines (*not modifying system files*).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  If you will not publish modules that modifying system files, we
>>>>>>>>>> are forced to create our own fork.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>>>>>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>>>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl');>
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