[Vtigercrm-developers] Seeking clarification regarding Taxes

[Mani Kumar]

Thanks for your replies.
We come up with new taxing model soon.


On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Luc Van Hove <luc.vanhove at lucassoft.be>wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> Mani, I will try to give you a simple view of how it is in Belgium.
> We do not call it Tax but BTW (VAT in English).
>
>
>
> Will tax be always on the post-discount price of a product?
> [hovel] *yes.*
>
>
> Will Sales people be selecting the taxes when they add a product to an
> Invoice?
> [hovel] *No*. The BTW is product/service related. It can be added
> automatically.
>
>
> An Invoice will have many line items. Should taxes be selectable at the
> line item level? or should they be selectable only at invoice level (i.e,
> the same taxes will apply for all items in the invoice).
> [hovel] *Only at item level*. It is mandatory to specify the BTW rate at
> item level. (The rate, not the value)
>
>
> Should tax values displayed at item level ?
> [hovel] *Yes BTW-rate or code**, not value! (e.g. 21%)*
>
>
> Should we show Net price after taxing at item level ?
> [hovel] *No*?
>
>
> Should the compound tax is on (all the taxes above + Amount ) OR  is on
> (some taxes + Amount) ?
> [hovel] *There are no compound taxe**s.*
>
>
> Is it common to impose tax on the total value of purchase if we already
> added at Item Level ?
> [hovel] *Item level **BTW rate is mandatory*!
>
>
> How common is imposing taxes on charges (Ex: shipping tax on Shipping
> Charges ) ?
> [hovel] *Shipping is a service and therefore taxable. It should be part
> of the line items**.*
>
>
> Is multilevel taxing (Taxing at subtotal stages) needed ?
> [hovel] *no*.
>
> Apart from many other mandatory things ,an invoice in Belgium contains
> three major parts relating to BTW:
>
> 1 - *line items*
>     Name + quantity + unit price + total price + BTW-rate.
>     Item1    1    50,00€     50,00€    21,00%
>     Item2    2    25,00€     50,00€    21,00%
>     Item3    4    25,00€    100,00€     6,00%
>
> 2 - *BTW rat**e summary*
>     Per BTW rate present in the line items part
>     total price for this rate + BTW-rate + BTW amount for this rate;
>     e.g.
>     100,00€    21,00%    21,00€
>     100,00€     6,00%     6,00€
>
> 3 - *Grand total section                (e.g.)*
>     Grand total price Excluding BTW    200,00€
>     Grand total BTW amount              27,00€
>     Grand total price including BTW    227,00€
>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Hovel
>
> Op 2013-05-24 17:52, Frank Piepiorra schreef:
>
> Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Seeking clarification regarding Taxes
> 	and	Charges Enhancements in Vtiger
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> Hi,
>
> We are working to enhance the functionality of taxes in inventory modules.
> We have few questions on how the taxing system will be ?
> Listed below are our queries
> [[crm-now]] Mani, I may tell you how it looks here in Germany (Austria). In
> principle the individual and the group tax mode as they are currently with
> 5.4.0 cover already all possible cases. So there no really a need for
> enhancements.
>
>
> Will tax be always on the post-discount price of a product?
> [[crm-now]] yes
>
> Will Sales people be selecting the taxes when they add a product to an
> Invoice?
> [[crm-now]] Probably not. Since a tax depends on the type of
> product/services it is expected that the tax stored at a product/service
> entry gets filled in automatically.
>
> An Invoice will have many line items. Should taxes be selectable at the
> line item level? or should they be selectable only at invoice level (i.e,
> the same taxes will apply for all items in the invoice).
> [[crm-now]] On both.
>
> Should tax values displayed at item level ?
> [[crm-now]] yes
>
> Should we show Net price after taxing at item level ?
> [[crm-now]] It is sufficient at it is with 5.4.0 now.
>
> Should the compound tax is on (all the taxes above + Amount ) OR  is on
> (some taxes + Amount) ?
> [[crm-now]] all taxes
>
> Is it common to impose tax on the total value of purchase if we already
> added at Item Level ?
> [[crm-now]] Item level taxes are only necessary if you have different taxes
> for different line items (individual tax mode)
>
> How common is imposing taxes on charges (Ex: shipping tax on Shipping
> Charges ) ?
> [[crm-now]] common, since you may deduct taxes and shipping costs
> differently
>
> Is multilevel taxing (Taxing at subtotal stages) needed ?
> [[crm-now]] no
>
>
> Please clarify.
> Also if you have any references, models, thoughts please do share.
>
> Mani,
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