[Vtigercrm-developers] Customer Portal Update
Carlo Beschi
carloz at gnumerica.org
Thu Sep 24 08:29:46 PDT 2009
Hi Prasad,
Prasad ha scritto:
> Separation of presentation and logic could take more effort due to which
> we had to defer it in the last release.
I understand this and I sincerely hope that my words did not sound
unrespectful, to you and the guys of the core team.
I guess I'm full aware of the work you are doing and all of us are 100%
satisfied with 5.1, which is a great release.
It would be wonderful to have logics/presentation separation implemented
in 6.0 (in the whole vtiger, not only in the CP) :-)
I strongly believe vtiger CRM can still evolve and grow a lot, and
community contributions can help a lot.
So, as per this CP project, I see it just wonderful to have on the
forge, developed, tested, used, as for 5.x releases.
And, if it works fine, if you guys like it, who knows, integrated into
the core in the future.
Ciao
Carlo
>
> What about opening a project on the forge?
>
>
> This is a good option.
>
> @Alan: Thanks for the heads-up start.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Regards,
> Prasad
> vtiger Team
>
>
> On 9/24/09, *Carlo Beschi* <carloz at gnumerica.org
> <mailto:carloz at gnumerica.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> here comes one more positive feedback ;-)
>
> I'll test your version in a few days and possibly provide some more
> detailed info, anyway the choice of getting rid of the nested tables
> ;.-) and move towards a clearer separation of the presentation layer is
> ... the choice :-)
>
> I did the same, on a smaller scale, on our internal version of 5.0.4,
> for the Login screen (I had to rewrite it, so it simply came more handy
> to use css and divs instead of tables).
>
> I can allocate some of my time, and of one of my mates at our company,
> in the next weeks, to test the code and help you out.
>
> What about opening a project on the forge?
>
> Carlo
>
>
> Alan Lord (News) ha scritto:
>
> > On 24/09/09 08:21, Steven Sher wrote:
> >> I also had to try customise our customer portal to better suit
> our company, and found it rather complicated to get what we wanted,
> so thanks for all your work, I am sure it's going to save a lot of
> other people time/energy.
> >
> > Thanks Steve,
> >
> > I hope my OP wasn't misleading though, perhaps I could have been
> a bit
> > clearer.
> >
> > I'd really like feedback on what I've done so far. This isn't, what I
> > consider, finished. There are some areas where the code can be
> cleaned
> > up and still some bugs which cause it to fail W3C validation tests
> > (mainly from some of the Javascript I think).
> >
> > What I am really interested to see is if this rework is actually a
> > worthwhile activity and I am on the right track; although the 3
> comments
> > so far seem to confirm the need for a clean up certainly.
> >
> > Although I haven't really touched much of the actual logic in the
> code,
> > the package is *not* endorsed by me for production use in it's
> current
> > state.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
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> <mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com>] On Behalf
> Of Alan Lord (News)
> >> Sent: 23 September 2009 06:36 PM
> >> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> <mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com>
> >> Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customer Portal Update
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> We've been using vtiger for sometime ourselves and have recently
> started
> >> promoting it to our customers too.
> >>
> >> This got me looking at the Customer Portal in some detail.
> >>
> >> I noticed that it is being rendered to the web using lots of
> tables and
> >> also had some nesting errors associated with that.
> >>
> >> Using tables for data that needs to be displayed in a table is fine.
> >> Using tables for page-layout purposes is really frowned upon in
> the web
> >> design community and creates problems for accessibility users.
> >>
> >> Seeing as the customer portal is an "outside facing" component
> of vtiger
> >> it is important that it should be as adherent to standards and
> >> best-practice as possible I think. So, I've spent quite a while
> >> re-working the code.
> >>
> >> It is by no means perfect and I'm quite sure there's an
> opportunity for
> >> considerable re-factoring to remove quite a bit of duplicate code.
> >>
> >> The file here:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com/vtigercrm-customerportal-5.1.0-tolc.zip
> >>
> >> is our modified customer portal package. It uses a more modern
> doctype
> >> (XHTML 1.0 transitional) and is as valid as I can make it for
> the time
> >> being. I have replaced most of the tables used purely for layout
> with
> >> divs have removed most of the hard-coded styling and migrated
> this to
> >> the stylesheets so it is easier to customise to match the host's
> >> website. I've tested it with IE6, IE8, Firefox 3.0 and Google
> Chrome.
> >> The stylesheets are also separated to make the styling elements
> easier
> >> to identify.
> >>
> >> I'm happy to continue to improve this part of vtiger on behalf of my
> >> company but would really appreciate some feedback on my efforts
> so far.
> >> We will be using this version on our website shortly.
> >
> >
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