From fboudra at free.fr Wed Mar 1 01:34:41 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:34:41 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on last commits for trunk branches on php files Message-ID: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr> hi team, i noticed a problem on some commits: Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php ============================================================================== Binary files - no diff available. php files are not binary files ;) mime-type is false, you must use text/plain. command under linux/cygwin (thks mike): find -iname '*.php*' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain cheers, fathi From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 1 01:32:44 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:32:44 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on last commits for trunk branches on php files In-Reply-To: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr> References: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <44056A3C.2080704@mikefedyk.com> Fathi Boudra wrote: >hi team, > >i noticed a problem on some commits: > >Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php >============================================================================== >Binary files - no diff available. > >php files are not binary files ;) >mime-type is false, you must use text/plain. > >command under linux/cygwin (thks mike): >find -iname '*.php*' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain > > One too many asterisks in there... It should be: find -iname '*.php' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain From jtk at yahoo.com Wed Mar 1 05:40:59 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:40:59 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on last commits for trunk branches on php files References: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr> <44056A3C.2080704@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:32:44 -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Fathi Boudra wrote: > >>hi team, >> >>i noticed a problem on some commits: >> >>Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php >>============================================================================== >>Binary files - no diff available. >> >>php files are not binary files ;) >>mime-type is false, you must use text/plain. > > One too many asterisks in there... It should be: > > find -iname '*.php' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain Also, each committer should have a good [auto-props] section in their ~/.subversion/config file, which properly sets mime-type and eol-type for all file extensions in use by this project (including .inc, etc.) From jtk at yahoo.com Wed Mar 1 11:57:50 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:57:50 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigercrm-5.0.0alpha2 demo looks great Message-ID: Just wanted to congratulate the vtigercrm team on the improvements to the vtigercrm-5.0.0alpha2 demo. It's really looking quite good. There isn't really a lot of use for positive feedback in the trac ticket system, so I'll say it here. I'd also like to commend the vtigercrm-4.2.x maintainers, whose efforts to support the stable release are allowing the vtigercrm team to make these leaps forward. Thanks again, guys. From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Wed Mar 1 10:58:07 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:58:07 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Receiving data from outside sources In-Reply-To: <49216030602280713g71d470edw676dcd0219757fb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <43FB7E8F.7030502@mikefedyk.com> <440382EA.9090701@mikefedyk.com> <49216030602271634s362b7038rd469c4d2287b00d1@mail.gmail.com> <4403BDF9.6030606@mikefedyk.com> <49216030602280713g71d470edw676dcd0219757fb2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86f04e340603011058h1a0675e8mea3efc6d7c3a623d@mail.gmail.com> I found this when i was reading about REST... http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2004/12/12/rest-to-my-wife Maybe you want to explain it to your wife... :) Best Regards Joao Oliveira. On 2/28/06, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > like, look in > > http://developer.yahoo.net/php/ > > there are various code samples there... > > basically you don't need a specialized library, good old > file_get_contents is your friend ;-) > (or you can use the curl extension) > > I'm imagining something like: > > exporting: > www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=csv > or > www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=xml > > importing: > www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=import_client > > this last call should be made by a POST action, passing in the data, > can be made by a simple php script, something like > > foreach line in the source csv_file > { > $postargs = > > // Get the curl session object > $session = curl_init($request); > > // Set the POST options. > curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POST, true); > curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS, $postargs); > curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_HEADER, true); > curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true); > > // Do the POST and then close the session > $response = curl_exec($session); > curl_close($session); > > > of course, the folder "api" should be protected wrt security. > > /sak > > > On 2/28/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > > >On 2/27/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > > > > > > >>The focus of the question is how to get data in and out of vtiger > using > > >>public interfaces from another automated system. I would like to > renew > > >>that question. Is SOAP the only and/or best answer in this area? > > >> > > >> > > > > > >nop. > > >SOAP is a complex beast that must die. > > > > > >you can use REST (web services done right). > > > > > >just like yahoo does with php: > > > > > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/ > > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/howto-reqRestPhp.html > > > > > >note that with "output" parameter you can control what you get, ie. > > >CSV, XML, txt, whatever. > > > > > > > > Have any links to php libraries for REST? I'm reading through the > > various articles in Wikipedia right now... > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using > your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060301/b0681a33/attachment.htm From sergiokessler at gmail.com Wed Mar 1 15:23:15 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:23:15 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Receiving data from outside sources In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603011058h1a0675e8mea3efc6d7c3a623d@mail.gmail.com> References: <43FB7E8F.7030502@mikefedyk.com> <440382EA.9090701@mikefedyk.com> <49216030602271634s362b7038rd469c4d2287b00d1@mail.gmail.com> <4403BDF9.6030606@mikefedyk.com> <49216030602280713g71d470edw676dcd0219757fb2@mail.gmail.com> <86f04e340603011058h1a0675e8mea3efc6d7c3a623d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49216030603011523v4a31c477q8f4a9ea992788ab1@mail.gmail.com> wow, very illustrative, very... :-) I will keep this link handy when someone start to mention acronyms of complicated and bloated protocols... cites from the article: "The protocol I was talking about, HTTP - it's capable of all sorts of neat stuff that people ignore for some reason." "Instead, the large majority [of computer people] are busy writing layers of complex specifications for doing this stuff in a different way that isn't nearly as useful or eloquent." he!, if you really want to know the the advantages of SOAP, look at this link: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200504/msg00274.html /sak On 3/1/06, Joao Oliveira wrote: > I found this when i was reading about REST... > > http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2004/12/12/rest-to-my-wife > > Maybe you want to explain it to your wife... :) > > Best Regards > Joao Oliveira. > > > On 2/28/06, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > like, look in > > http://developer.yahoo.net/php/ > > there are various code samples there... > > basically you don't need a specialized library, good old > file_get_contents is your friend ;-) > (or you can use the curl extension) > > I'm imagining something like: > > exporting: > www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=csv > or > www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=xml > > importing: > www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=import_client > > this last call should be made by a POST action, passing in the data, > can be made by a simple php script, something like > > foreach line in the source csv_file > { > $postargs = > > // Get the curl session object > $session = curl_init($request); > > // Set the POST options. > curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POST, true); > curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS, $postargs); > curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_HEADER, true); > curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true); > > // Do the POST and then close the session > $response = curl_exec($session); > curl_close($session); > > > of course, the folder "api" should be protected wrt security. > > /sak > > > On 2/28/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > > >On 2/27/06, Mike Fedyk < mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>The focus of the question is how to get data in and out of vtiger using > > >>public interfaces from another automated system. I would like to renew > > >>that question. Is SOAP the only and/or best answer in this area? > > >> > > >> > > > > > >nop. > > >SOAP is a complex beast that must die. > > > > > >you can use REST (web services done right). > > > > > >just like yahoo does with php: > > > > > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/ > > > http://developer.yahoo.net/php/howto-reqRestPhp.html > > > > > >note that with "output" parameter you can control what you get, ie. > > >CSV, XML, txt, whatever. > > > > > > > > Have any links to php libraries for REST? I'm reading through the > > various articles in Wikipedia right now... > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > From gopals at vtiger.com Thu Mar 2 01:52:16 2006 From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:52:16 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! Message-ID: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> Dear Team, We are pleased inform you the release of vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 (development release) for testing purpose. Major Features: Campaign management Enhanced pre-defined dashboards AJAXified Edit Fields in all the modules Intuitive System Administration Integration of Web services to update all your public listed customer/company profiles View multidimensional models for product catalog Latest news on company updates Shout box for vtiger CRM users Redesigned Customer Self-service portal Support for MySQL 4.1.x database system Demo: vtiger CRM: http://www.vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php admin/admin Customer Portal: http://www.vtiger.com/products/crm/customerportal_5alpha/ Note: First create a contact in vtiger CRM Alpha demo and get the user name password. Don't forget to enable "Portal User" option in Contact details page. Download: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/vtigercrm/vtiger_CRM_5_alpha2_Source.tar.gz?download Installation Procedure: http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Vtiger_CRM_5_Alpha_2_-_Installation_Guide Bug Tracker: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/report Discussions: http://forums.vtiger.com/index.php?c=10 Please do post your suggestions & comments to provide a better product for vtiger community. Cheers, Gopal (On behalf of vtiger Team) S.S.G.Gopal Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com Skype: sripadag Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060302/7957372c/attachment-0001.html From ar at im-netz.de Thu Mar 2 04:00:59 2006 From: ar at im-netz.de (Alexander Rothenberg) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:00:59 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree? Message-ID: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de> Hi evryone, i was trying get the vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree from the sourceforge-cvs-server with "cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous at cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/vtigercrm co -r VTIGERCRM_4_2_BRANCH vtiger_crm" but i stil get the 5 alpha 2, can any1 tell me what im doing wrong? or is there a better way to get the 4.2.4 RC2 source? thx, alex From fboudra at free.fr Thu Mar 2 05:10:04 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:10:04 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree? In-Reply-To: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de> References: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de> Message-ID: <200603021410.04813.fboudra@free.fr> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage From sergiokessler at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 05:54:49 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:54:49 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview In-Reply-To: <4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com> References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com> saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations... /sak On 2/28/06, Saint wrote: > > Team, > > The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI. In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order. > > After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided. > > - Saint > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > From jamieinnh at gmail.com.idc.adventnet.com Thu Mar 2 07:18:30 2006 From: jamieinnh at gmail.com.idc.adventnet.com (Jamie Jackson) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:18:30 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Someone is saying the Demo of vTiger has been hacked Message-ID: <994473020603020718s415f49acx9fe445568a1196b4@mail.gmail.com> I went to the demo and can't see where it's changed, but has anyone looked into this? http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=21417#21417 Jamie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060302/e23530f3/attachment.htm From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 2 09:06:33 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:06:33 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 Release Schedule In-Reply-To: <43FC5310.90206@mikefedyk.com> References: <43FBF414.8020407@mikefedyk.com> <43FC5310.90206@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <44072619.5060101@mikefedyk.com> Hi everyone, Well we missed our release date, again. :) I need to do a few checkins before a checkin, and make an rc3. I want to make sure the windows installer is ready so it can be released when rc3 goes out and get a day or two of testing. Other than that I think we're ready for 4.2.4 to be let loose. Mike Mike Fedyk wrote: >Did I say May? Sorry that should have been *March* 1st. > >Mike > >Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > >>Hi everyone, >> >>I am planning on releasing 4.2.4rc1 on Friday, so let's get in all of >>the changes that are planned for 4.2.4 before then so we can release >>on May 1st. >> >>Mike >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 2 09:07:29 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:07:29 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview In-Reply-To: <49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com> <49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com> I believe it is generated from text and can be translated properly just like everything else. Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using >images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations... > >/sak > >On 2/28/06, Saint wrote: > > >> Team, >> >> The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI. In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order. >> >> After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided. >> >> - Saint >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > From saint at vtiger.com Thu Mar 2 09:35:04 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:05:04 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview In-Reply-To: <44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com> References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com> <49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com> <44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <44072CC8.9020303@vtiger.com> Mike, Sak, In GA the image heading will be replaced with text heading. -Saint Mike Fedyk wrote: >I believe it is generated from text and can be translated properly just >like everything else. > >Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > >>saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using >>images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations... >> >>/sak >> >>On 2/28/06, Saint wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> Team, >>> >>>The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI. In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order. >>> >>>After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided. >>> >>>- Saint >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gopal wrote: > > Dear Mike, > > I will update vtiger project details in freshmeat ASAP. > > Regards, > > Gopal > > > *S.S.G.Gopal > Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com > Skype: sripadag > Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437 > * > > > > > ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ---- > > It needs a release notification about 5.0 alpha. > > I use freshmeat for searching open source projects and improving our > ranking there will help get us more users and developers IMO. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still > using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the > AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho > Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > From saint at vtiger.com Fri Mar 3 01:14:16 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:44:16 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised Message-ID: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> Team, We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20, 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module. To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral bindings to the right. Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can select their fav module and so, the others. -Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060303/e258a6bd/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: HomeAtAGlance.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 74657 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060303/e258a6bd/HomeAtAGlance-0001.jpg From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Fri Mar 3 01:25:20 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:25:20 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i have french users very positive feedback. A?ssa Saint a ?crit : > Team, > > We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a > Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major > modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20, > 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus > eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module. > To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been > given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the > dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral > bindings to the right. > > Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of > page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the > default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people > can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can > select their fav module and so, the others. > > > -Saint > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > From sergiokessler at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 07:19:13 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:19:13 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> Message-ID: <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web usability, you just broke the "page" concept... there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen. (I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...) /sak On 3/3/06, Webmaster wrote: > Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i > have french users very positive feedback. > A?ssa > > Saint a ?crit : > > > Team, > > > > We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a > > Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major > > modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20, > > 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus > > eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module. > > To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been > > given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the > > dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral > > bindings to the right. > > > > Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of > > page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the > > default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people > > can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can > > select their fav module and so, the others. > > > > > > -Saint > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > From saint at vtiger.com Fri Mar 3 11:21:45 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:51:45 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> sak, Sorry, I couldnt get what you mean by "two differnet scroll windows". Please throw some more light over this! In the At a Glance UI, there is only one scrollable DIV layer in the right. cheers, Saint Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard >approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two >different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web >usability, you just broke the "page" concept... > >there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen. > >(I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...) > >/sak > >On 3/3/06, Webmaster wrote: > > >>Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i >>have french users very positive feedback. >>A?ssa >> >>Saint a ?crit : >> >> >> >>>Team, >>> >>>We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a >>>Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major >>>modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20, >>>50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus >>>eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module. >>>To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been >>>given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the >>>dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral >>>bindings to the right. >>> >>>Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of >>>page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the >>>default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people >>>can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can >>>select their fav module and so, the others. >>> >>> >>>-Saint >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060304/9a21a6f1/attachment.htm From developer at infointegrated.com Fri Mar 3 05:48:11 2006 From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 07:48:11 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <88BAD7A1-DE7C-44A5-827E-5FD40B679FE2@infointegrated.com> Saint, A couple of comments: The new UI looks amazing. it really is slick, and I can't wait for it to be released. :) The Dashboard looks like a website within a website. It doesn't appear to be well integrated into vtiger. My main concern is the static size of the iframe (not sure that's what it is, just what it looks like). This means having a larger display is not an advantage. Plus, there's a lot of wasted space on the screen (if you make you browser window larger). I hope that this is adjusted for the final release. It also appears that the future At a Glance may have the same issue. I really like the new At a Glance... I still think vtiger needs a home page that can be customized with daily use information. A sort of, "What am I doing today? view". I think of activities, meetings, open tickets, email, calendar... the first things I look at every day. I'd like to have a place I can quickly see all of them. Thanks, and keep up the great work! Brian On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:14 AM, Saint wrote: > Team, > > We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called At a > Glance. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major > modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, > 20, 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and > thus eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X > module. To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All > Modules" has been given, which will display all Top X modules one > by one (like the dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have > included spiral bindings to the right. > > Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of > page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the > default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people > can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can > select their fav module and so, the others. > > > -Saint > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still > using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the > AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho > Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060303/d7c3b013/attachment.html From fp at crm-now.de Fri Mar 3 07:11:00 2006 From: fp at crm-now.de (Frank Piepiorra) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:11:00 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reports fixing Message-ID: <200603031512.k23FCCFn012852@doko.im-netz.de> There has been a posting of a Reports fix, I do not see it included in rc2: http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3884&highlight=report Regards, Frank From sergiokessler at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 12:36:42 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:36:42 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website within a website"... look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about... see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a "page" has been broken... "The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their way around a website or finding the content they wanted." what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling the graph part (which is not what I want) /sak (*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability. On 3/3/06, Saint wrote: > sak, > > Sorry, I couldnt get what you mean by "two differnet scroll windows". > Please throw some more light over this! In the At a Glance UI, there is only > one scrollable DIV layer in the right. > > > > cheers, > Saint > > > > > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard > approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two > different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web > usability, you just broke the "page" concept... > > there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen. > > (I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...) > > /sak > > On 3/3/06, Webmaster wrote: > > > Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i > have french users very positive feedback. > A?ssa > > Saint a ?crit : > > > > Team, > > We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a > Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major > modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20, > 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus > eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module. > To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been > given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the > dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral > bindings to the right. > > Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of > page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the > default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people > can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can > select their fav module and so, the others. > > > -Saint > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: nested_scrollbar.GIF Type: image/gif Size: 49279 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060303/b668364c/nested_scrollbar-0001.gif From philip at vtiger.com Fri Mar 3 12:25:18 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:25:18 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available Message-ID: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com> Hi Developers, The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as there was execption during installation. Regards, Rajkumar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060303/692a20a4/attachment.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Fri Mar 3 22:23:15 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:23:15 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available In-Reply-To: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com> References: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <44093253.2000807@mikefedyk.com> Can someone send me the modified source files? I don't have a windows machine I can use for testing. Mike Philip wrote: > Hi Developers, > > The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location > http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe > > Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as there was execption during installation. > > Regards, > Rajkumar > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Fri Mar 3 22:33:05 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:33:05 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... > >I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >within a website"... > >look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about... > >see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a >"page" has been broken... > >"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their >way around a website or finding the content they wanted." > >what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html > > >it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >the graph part (which is not what I want) > > >/sak >(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability. > > I'm sorry but I completely disagree. Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). From marcin.antczak at gmail.com Sat Mar 4 04:24:25 2006 From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 13:24:25 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph Message-ID: I got extremely important question about JpGraph license. VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license. While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph we can read that: "JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional License for commercial use." So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed specifically for commercial usage. Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license. Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is your opinion? Marcin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Because on > http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph > we can read that: > > "JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) > For non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph > Professional License for commercial use." > > So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, > we need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software > designed specifically for commercial usage. > > Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license. > > Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what > to do with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to > config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What > is your opinion? > > > Marcin > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Sat Mar 4 04:39:34 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:39:34 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger blogs spammed Message-ID: <44098A86.7010700@vtigercrmfrance.org> Hi, the vtiger blog is spammed by registered users ! http://blogs.vtiger.com/weblog_entry.php?p=21517#21517 http://blogs.vtiger.com/weblog_entry.php?p=21525#21525 Aissa From jtk at yahoo.com Sat Mar 4 06:58:15 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 09:58:15 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available References: <18711.168508935$1141418802@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: Philip wrote: > Hi Developers, > The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location > http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe > Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php > as there was execption during installation. Regards, > Rajkumar Sigh... There is no version vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC. There are release candidates vtigercrm-4.2.4rc1, vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2, and vtigercrm-4.2.4rc3, and the final release will be vtigercrm-4.2.4. Which version does this installer resemble? Thanks for the efforts on an installer, they are appreciated. From sergiokessler at gmail.com Sat Mar 4 07:08:58 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 12:08:58 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> 1. I don't use IE. 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. /sak On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > >saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two > >vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... > > > >I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website > >within a website"... > > > >look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about... > > > >see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a > >"page" has been broken... > > > >"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, > >since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. > >Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that > >doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their > >way around a website or finding the content they wanted." > > > >what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, > >jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: > >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html > > > > > >it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see > >what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I > >rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling > >the graph part (which is not what I want) > > > > > >/sak > >(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability. > > > > > I'm sorry but I completely disagree. > > Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with > the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the > concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. > > And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll > the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of > IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in > Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). From fboudra at free.fr Sat Mar 4 09:37:48 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:37:48 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available In-Reply-To: References: <18711.168508935$1141418802@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: <200603041837.49042.fboudra@free.fr> Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 15:58, Jeff Kowalczyk a ?crit?: > Philip wrote: > > Hi Developers, > > The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following > > location http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe > > Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php > > as there was execption during installation. Regards, > > Rajkumar > > Sigh... > > There is no version vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC. There are > release candidates vtigercrm-4.2.4rc1, vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2, and > vtigercrm-4.2.4rc3, and the final release will be vtigercrm-4.2.4. Which > version does this installer resemble? > > > Thanks for the efforts on an installer, they are appreciated. like jeff said, i recall that you can look the small developer documentation : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki especially coding style and naming scheme. comments/contributions are welcomed too. cheers, Fathi From fboudra at free.fr Sat Mar 4 10:23:09 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:23:09 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit?: > I got extremely important question about JpGraph license. > > VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there > is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license. > > While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph > we can read that: > > "JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For > non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional > License for commercial use." > > So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we > need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed > specifically for commercial usage. > > Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license. > > Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do > with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to > config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is > your opinion? > > > Marcin from debian jpgraph copyright file: ---BEGIN--- For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed version. You can read on home page: "JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional License for commercial use." This is not compliant with DFSG #6 "The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research." It was downloaded from: http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz ---END--- with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source" term : "JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional License for commercial use." but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website: http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php "if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company. In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most likely falls under commercial use." with this statements, my interpretation is: we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic advantage" and need professional license. This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know. We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ? cheers, Fathi From developer at infointegrated.com Sat Mar 4 09:13:52 2006 From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:13:52 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels (guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > 1. I don't use IE. > > 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the > vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). > > 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple > scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. > > > /sak > > On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >> Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >>> saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>> vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >>> >>> I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>> within a website"... >>> >>> look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>> about... >>> >>> see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>> of a >>> "page" has been broken... >>> >>> "The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>> since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>> Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>> doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>> their >>> way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >>> >>> what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>> jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >>> >>> >>> it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>> what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>> rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>> the graph part (which is not what I want) >>> >>> >>> /sak >>> (*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>> usability. >>> >>> >> I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >> >> Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >> the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >> concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >> >> And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >> scroll >> the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >> because of >> IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >> and in >> Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still > using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the > AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho > Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Sat Mar 4 10:46:02 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:46:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> References: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com> Fathi BOUDRA wrote: >Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit : > > >>I got extremely important question about JpGraph license. >> >>VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there >>is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license. >> >>While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph >>we can read that: >> >>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For >>non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional >>License for commercial use." >> >>So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we >>need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed >>specifically for commercial usage. >> >>Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license. >> >>Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do >>with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to >>config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is >>your opinion? >> >> >>Marcin >> >> > >from debian jpgraph copyright file: >---BEGIN--- >For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle > > >To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed >version. You can read on home page: > >"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For >non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional >License for commercial use." > >This is not compliant with DFSG #6 > >"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a >specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from >being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research." > >It was downloaded from: >http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz >---END--- > >with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source" >term : >"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For >non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional >License for commercial use." > >but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website: >http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php >"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire >the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on >a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are >using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business >processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company. >In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either >through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most >likely falls under commercial use." > >with this statements, my interpretation is: >we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't >sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services >around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic >advantage" and need professional license. > >This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph >professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know. > >We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last >GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ? > We need to change to jgraph 1.5.2 and if the GPL version isn't being maintained we will need to find an alternative or maintain it ourselves. Mike From marcin.antczak at gmail.com Sat Mar 4 10:47:10 2006 From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:47:10 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> References: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: On 3/4/06, Fathi BOUDRA wrote: > > but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website: > http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php > "if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to > acquire > the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph > on > a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are > using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business > processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company. > In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either > through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this > most > likely falls under commercial use." > > with this statements, my interpretation is: > we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't > sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services > around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic > advantage" and need professional license. And this is the problem. Because I agree: - you don't sell vtiger so you can use jpgraph since you don't gain any incomes - you can also distribute jpgraph but then problem is that you don't know how other use vtiger - if they use vtiger 'non-commercial' then everything is ok (for example open source developers, private users... ) - but as we all know - vtiger is open source product targeted for business users, so they: "In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either through paying customers or improving ___internal___ business processes) this most likely falls under commercial use." So although you can distribute jpgraph, you can use this as open source developer etc. then other _business_ users violate JpGraph license and should buy 'JpGraph professional' license or - remove/disable this library in vtiger - or downgrade library that is bundled with vtiger to 1.5.2 as Fathi said. Marcin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060304/6f8a9bc9/attachment.html From sergiokessler at gmail.com Sat Mar 4 10:48:35 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 15:48:35 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com> References: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Fathi BOUDRA wrote: > > >Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit : > > > > > >>I got extremely important question about JpGraph license. > >> > >>VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there > >>is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license. > >> > >>While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph > >>we can read that: > >> > >>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For > >>non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional > >>License for commercial use." > >> > >>So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we > >>need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed > >>specifically for commercial usage. > >> > >>Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license. > >> > >>Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do > >>with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to > >>config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is > >>your opinion? > >> > >> > >>Marcin > >> > >> > > > >from debian jpgraph copyright file: > >---BEGIN--- > >For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle > > > > > >To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed > >version. You can read on home page: > > > >"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For > >non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional > >License for commercial use." > > > >This is not compliant with DFSG #6 > > > >"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a > >specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from > >being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research." > > > >It was downloaded from: > >http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz > >---END--- > > > >with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source" > >term : > >"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For > >non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional > >License for commercial use." > > > >but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website: > >http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php > >"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire > >the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on > >a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are > >using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business > >processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company. > >In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either > >through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most > >likely falls under commercial use." > > > >with this statements, my interpretation is: > >we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't > >sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services > >around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic > >advantage" and need professional license. > > > >This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph > >professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know. > > > >We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last > >GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ? > > > We need to change to jgraph 1.5.2 and if the GPL version isn't being > maintained we will need to find an alternative or maintain it ourselves. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > From jtk at yahoo.com Sat Mar 4 11:03:24 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:03:24 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph References: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph Without knowing much about the library API itself, this has the added advantage that it is PHP4/5 compatible. jpgraph on the other hand, has two incompatible versions: PHP4: JpGraph 1.x - series Note: The 1.x series is only for PHP4. It will not work on PHP5. Version: 1.20.3 (18 Feb 2006) PHP5: JpGraph 2.x - series Note: The 2.x series is only for PHP5. It will not work on PHP4 Version: 2.1.1 (19 Feb 2006) I know we're not supporting PHP5 at the moment, but that's one less thing to worry about when the time comes. FWIW ran an old version of vtigercrm on PHP 5 for a while, and jpgraph was the only obvious thing that didn't work. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Sat Mar 4 11:08:22 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:08:22 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: References: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com> Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > >>http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph >> >> > >Without knowing much about the library API itself, this has the added >advantage that it is PHP4/5 compatible. jpgraph on the other hand, has two >incompatible versions: > >PHP4: JpGraph 1.x - series Note: The 1.x series is only for PHP4. It will >not work on PHP5. Version: 1.20.3 (18 Feb 2006) > >PHP5: JpGraph 2.x - series Note: The 2.x series is only for PHP5. It will >not work on PHP4 Version: 2.1.1 (19 Feb 2006) > >I know we're not supporting PHP5 at the moment, but that's one less thing >to worry about when the time comes. FWIW ran an old version of vtigercrm >on PHP 5 for a while, and jpgraph was the only obvious thing that didn't >work. > > Bye bye jgraph. Sounds good and we will punt jgraph ASAP. For now we will use jgraph 1.5.2 until it is replaced. Mike From jtk at yahoo.com Sat Mar 4 11:05:51 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:05:51 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph References: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph I'd also like to ask the prevailing opinion on what the licensing difference would be if (graph library X) were an external dependency. I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository. Let vtiger worry about its own GPL license only. Let the distro maintainers, and user-administrator decide if vtigercrm and well-specified prerequisites are compatible with their free-software policies. From fboudra at free.fr Sat Mar 4 11:27:08 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 20:27:08 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com> References: <4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr> good news :) we've got an agreement : * short term : - replace current jpgraph 1.20.3, and use last gpl release 1.5.2 - indeed, some "regression" tests are needed ... * long term : - provide alternative -> Image_Graph, LGPL licensed http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph We need also vtiger core team comments, especially for 5.x. ATM, there's only Image_graph alternative proposal, but if you know a good competitor feel free to submit :) regarding last jeff post: Image_graph v0.7.1 is in debian (php-image-graph) debian/ubuntu package are on their way to drop : * adodb * squirrelmail * phpsysinfo and use distribution package. cheers, Fathi From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Sat Mar 4 11:41:57 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:41:57 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: References: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com> Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > >>http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph >> >> > >I'd also like to ask the prevailing opinion on what the licensing >difference would be if (graph library X) were an external dependency. > >I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of >course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks >of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but >now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't >distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository. > > This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything there. Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water. I don't think this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues. >Let vtiger worry about its own GPL license only. Let the distro >maintainers, and user-administrator decide if vtigercrm and >well-specified prerequisites are compatible with their free-software >policies. > > Hold on here. Vtiger code is VPL (modified MPL) and forked SPL (borked MPL) code. There are several modules that are other licenses. Nowhere is the vtiger core GPL AFAIK. I'm pushing to find ways to make added files licensed under the LGPL, but haven't gotten very far on that so far... Vtiger team, please stop using the VPL and relicense vtiger code under LGPL *only*. From jtk at yahoo.com Sat Mar 4 11:46:48 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:46:48 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph References: <4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com> <200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Fathi BOUDRA wrote: > regarding last jeff post: > Image_graph v0.7.1 is in debian (php-image-graph) > > debian/ubuntu package are on their way to drop : > * adodb > * squirrelmail > * phpsysinfo > > and use distribution package. Is there a generally applicable idiom to check the existence and version number of PHP libraries, much like we do for the gd extension (meaning C extension, I presume): "2.0") { ... } If so, it would be great to put those in a concise script that is called by 1checkSystem.php. This would make it easier to update external dependencies (without mucking with the PHP templates), and also to inventory dependency requirements for distro packagers. From fboudra at free.fr Sat Mar 4 12:07:27 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 21:07:27 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com> References: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <200603042107.27158.fboudra@free.fr> > Vtiger code is VPL (modified MPL) and forked SPL (borked MPL) code. > There are several modules that are other licenses. > > Nowhere is the vtiger core GPL AFAIK. I'm pushing to find ways to make > added files licensed under the LGPL, but haven't gotten very far on that > so far... > > Vtiger team, please stop using the VPL and relicense vtiger code under > LGPL *only*. seconded on this way. MPL is considered by some people a "not so free license". from my point of view, SPL/VPL must be avoided. At the begining, i searched for a crm software and found sugar. Drop it in favor of vtigercrm, because of licensing issues. some people tells me: v5.x will be LGPL. I already asked about clarification : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2006-February/000102.html no reply ... cheers, Fathi From fboudra at free.fr Sat Mar 4 12:22:09 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 21:22:09 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com> References: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr> Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 20:41, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?: > >I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of > >course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks > >of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but > >now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't > >distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository. > > ? > > This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the > vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything > there. ?Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water. ?I don't think > this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues. from the beginning, there's architectural problem to keep our own copies of softwares inside vtigercrm. We must deal with all licenses problem. We must focus on vigercrm code only and integration with external dependencies. Yes, it's only dependencies and not vtigercrm core code. These 3rd party software must be packaged correctly by packagers, it's their job. vtigercrm really need code cleanup, and a modular view of vtigercrm "distribution". From marcin.antczak at gmail.com Sat Mar 4 13:17:01 2006 From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 22:17:01 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr> References: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com> <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: On 3/4/06, Fathi BOUDRA wrote: > > Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 20:41, Mike Fedyk a ?crit: > > >I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, > of > > >course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private > snapshots/forks > > >of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, > but > > >now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't > > >distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository. > > > > > > > This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the > > vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything > > there. Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water. I don't think > > this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues. > > from the beginning, there's architectural problem to keep our own copies > of > softwares inside vtigercrm. We must deal with all licenses problem. > > We must focus on vigercrm code only and integration with external > dependencies. Yes, it's only dependencies and not vtigercrm core code. > These 3rd party software must be packaged correctly by packagers, it's > their > job. > > vtigercrm really need code cleanup, and a modular view of vtigercrm > "distribution". > I agree in 100% at this moment I modularized: - adodb - libphp-log4php and work on: - squirrelmail - phpsysinfo - xtemplate - tutos and think about: - phpBB - fpdf - phpmail Marcin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060304/1be0d21e/attachment-0001.html From fboudra at free.fr Sat Mar 4 14:22:23 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:22:23 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603042322.23411.fboudra@free.fr> > Another question - who vtiger maintenance team > and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or remove it completely ? scheduled for 4.2.5. We're short in time for 4.2.4. that can be trivial, but tests are a requirement. but i'm not 4.2.4 release manager so i prefer mike or matt official confirmation. feel free to submit patch on the ticket that i'll create in some minutes. cheers, Fathi From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Sat Mar 4 14:23:35 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:23:35 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: References: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com> <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com> What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3? If jgraph is newer than 1.5.2 then we're already in violation so leave the current version of jgraph in 4.2.4 and then we can use 1.5.2 or another replacement in vtiger 4.2.5. If vtiger 4.2.3 had 1.5.2 or earlier, then we should just revert and put in the replacement when someone has done the patch. Marcin Antczak wrote: > Another question - who and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or > remove it completely? > > > Marcin > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > From fboudra at free.fr Sat Mar 4 14:33:06 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:33:06 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com> References: <440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr> Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:23, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?: > What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3 ? 1.20.3 ... opened: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58 http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58 From fboudra at free.fr Sat Mar 4 14:34:34 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:34:34 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr> References: <440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com> <200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <200603042334.34955.fboudra@free.fr> Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:33, Fathi BOUDRA a ?crit?: > Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:23, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?: > > What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3 ? > > 1.20.3 ... > > opened: > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58 > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58 typo error : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58 http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/59 From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sun Mar 5 02:23:56 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:23:56 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Support of MySQL 5 in 4.1 version Message-ID: Hi all, Pursuing my efforts on database compatibility, find joined somme patches allowing support of MySQL 5.0. Something remarqable to notice is that most of the changes have the same origin than those for mssql or postgres support. It also lights up some defects in vtiger database schema, that could help to solve some issues in current versions. These patches are made to keep compatibility with previous versions of MySQL. They have been tested with MySQL 4.1.16 (limited test according to the time I have). Requirements : upgrade to last version of AXMLS package (1.0.2 include MySQL 5 support) in adodb directory patch to adodb-datadict.inc.php to solve MySQL 5.0 bug with default value of TIMESTAMP fields. CONFIG : PHP 5.1.2 MySQL 5.0.18 ABSTRACT DatabaseSchema : ON DELETE CASCADE -> ON DELETE NO ACTION (already documented) change cvcolumnlist index (primary key not unique) change selectcolumn index (primary key not unique) change relcriteria index (primary key not unique) change faqcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing default value) change ticketcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing default value) Utils : getDBInsertDateValue change empty date ('--') -> '0000-00-00' replace contact list query joins according to SQL standards CRMEntity, LoginHistory, PopulateComboValues, PopulateReports: replace default field value from "''" to "DEFAULT" Security : replace default field value from "''" to "NULL" in Tab INSERT query COMMENTS Database schema, primary key not unique CREATE of cvcolumnlist : columnindexType=InnoDB
is changed to : cvidcolumnindex columnindexType=InnoDB
cvid is not unique, several columns for same customview TIMESTAMP default values There is probably a bug in MySQL 5.0. CREATE TABLE DATETIME NOT NULL is supposed to default to CURRENT_TIMESTAMP but it doesn't. DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP and DATETIME DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP are not accepted That is the reason of the patch in adodb-datadict.inc.php, it generates : DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT '0000-00-00 00:00:00' which is accepted. Note : I have probably forgotten some clauses in XML schema. Hope this will help in building a more opened software. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/d6524d45/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Patches-4.2.4-MySQL5.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 5188 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/d6524d45/Patches-4.2.4-MySQL5-0001.bin From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Sun Mar 5 02:30:25 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:30:25 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008301c6403f$d0ff2fe0$0a64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hi there, I will have to agree that we shouldn't use technology for technology's sake. Being part of a company that has an entire division that focuses on fixing and solving user interfacing issues, I would have to agree wholeheartedly that doing something just "because we can ("tech superior") and the others are losers (ie. The rest of the world) if they still use IE, the inferior browser which has over 90% of the market but it still cannot beat us, the Firefox elite" is not going to bring a technically superior product to the masses. The concept of working on opensource is great, but to make something that the masses will use, we would have to understand that the success of any good software lies on being as simple and idiot-proof as possible to use/install. PS. Sorry for contributing only now, my usability team and I have been tied up with projects all the way till May. -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Sergio A. Kessler Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:09 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised 1. I don't use IE. 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. /sak On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > >saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two > >vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... > > > >I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website > >within a website"... > > > >look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about... > > > >see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a > >"page" has been broken... > > > >"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, > >since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. > >Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that > >doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their > >way around a website or finding the content they wanted." > > > >what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, > >jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: > >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html > > > > > >it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see > >what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I > >rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling > >the graph part (which is not what I want) > > > > > >/sak > >(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability. > > > > > I'm sorry but I completely disagree. > > Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with > the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the > concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. > > And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll > the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of > IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in > Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! http://zohowriter.com/?vt From saint at vtiger.com Sun Mar 5 00:14:51 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:44:51 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> Message-ID: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module with non-div layout. The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the *Show All Modules*, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables of records as usual. We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? - Saint Brian Devendorf wrote: >I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. > > >On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > >>1. I don't use IE. >> >>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >> >>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >> >> >>/sak >> >>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >> >>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>>>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >>>> >>>>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>>>within a website"... >>>> >>>>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>>>about... >>>> >>>>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>>>of a >>>>"page" has been broken... >>>> >>>>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>>>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>>>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>>>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>>>their >>>>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >>>> >>>>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>>>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>>>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >>>> >>>> >>>>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>>>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>>>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>>>the graph part (which is not what I want) >>>> >>>> >>>>/sak >>>>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>>>usability. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >>> >>>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >>> >>>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>>scroll >>>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>>because of >>>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>>and in >>>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/522932b2/attachment.htm From fboudra at free.fr Sun Mar 5 03:44:08 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:44:08 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Support of MySQL 5 in 4.1 version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603051244.09107.fboudra@free.fr> thanks michel, i'll add your patch to ticket 43: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/43 cheers, Fathi Le Dimanche 5 Mars 2006 11:23, Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit?: > Hi all, > > > > Pursuing my efforts on database compatibility, find joined somme patches > allowing support of MySQL 5.0. Something remarqable to notice is that most > of the changes have the same origin than those for mssql or postgres > support. > > > > It also lights up some defects in vtiger database schema, that could help > to solve some issues in current versions. > > > > These patches are made to keep compatibility with previous versions of > MySQL. They have been tested with MySQL 4.1.16 (limited test according to > the time I have). > > > > Requirements : > > upgrade to last version of AXMLS package (1.0.2 include MySQL 5 support) in > adodb directory > > patch to adodb-datadict.inc.php to solve MySQL 5.0 bug with default value > of TIMESTAMP fields. > > > > CONFIG : > > PHP 5.1.2 > > MySQL 5.0.18 > > > > ABSTRACT > > > > DatabaseSchema : > > ON DELETE CASCADE -> ON DELETE NO ACTION (already documented) > > change cvcolumnlist index (primary key not unique) > > change selectcolumn index (primary key not unique) > > change relcriteria index (primary key not unique) > > change faqcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing default > value) > > change ticketcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing > default value) > > > > Utils : > > getDBInsertDateValue change empty date ('--') -> '0000-00-00' > > replace contact list query joins according to SQL standards > > > > CRMEntity, LoginHistory, PopulateComboValues, PopulateReports: > > replace default field value from "''" to "DEFAULT" > > > > Security : > > replace default field value from "''" to "NULL" in Tab INSERT query > > > > COMMENTS > > > > Database schema, primary key not unique > > > > CREATE of cvcolumnlist : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > columnindex > > > > Type=InnoDB > > > >
> > > > is changed to : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cvid > > columnindex > > > > > > columnindex > > > > Type=InnoDB > > > >
> > cvid is not unique, several columns for same customview > > > > TIMESTAMP default values > > > > There is probably a bug in MySQL 5.0. > > > > CREATE TABLE > > DATETIME NOT NULL > > > > is supposed to default to CURRENT_TIMESTAMP but it doesn't. > > > > DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP > > and > > DATETIME DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP > > are not accepted > > > > That is the reason of the patch in adodb-datadict.inc.php, it generates : > > > > DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT '0000-00-00 00:00:00' > > > > which is accepted. > > Note : I have probably forgotten some clauses in XML > schema. > > > > Hope this will help in building a more opened software. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Sun Mar 5 13:43:56 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:43:56 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <440B5B9C.5080403@mikefedyk.com> Sounds good, but a workable middle-ground can be to have only one area in At-a-Glance will be scrollable. This way you can show everything you want, with the tabs always visible but only one part of the page can scroll. Saint wrote: > After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions > about using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. > > For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one > module with non-div layout. > > The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs > in 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. > > The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in > the *Show All Modules*, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. > Though this actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs > from eye-sight) it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching > the page top. Clicking the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top > Leads etc will list the tables of records as usual. > > We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. > Depending on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. > > So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? > > - Saint > > > > > > Brian Devendorf wrote: > >>I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >>not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >>was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >>(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >>two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >>screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >>rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >>small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. >> >> >>On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >>>1. I don't use IE. >>> >>>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >>> >>>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >>> >>> >>>/sak >>> >>>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>>>>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >>>>> >>>>>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>>>>within a website"... >>>>> >>>>>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>>>>about... >>>>> >>>>>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>>>>of a >>>>>"page" has been broken... >>>>> >>>>>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>>>>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>>>>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>>>>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>>>>their >>>>>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >>>>> >>>>>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>>>>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>>>>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>>>>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>>>>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>>>>the graph part (which is not what I want) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>/sak >>>>>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>>>>usability. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >>>> >>>>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>>>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>>>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >>>> >>>>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>>>scroll >>>>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>>>because of >>>>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>>>and in >>>>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>>Writer for FREE instead! >>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > From andre at dreamlab.net Mon Mar 6 02:01:25 2006 From: andre at dreamlab.net (andre@dreamlab.net) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:01:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP support in 5.0 Message-ID: <23469.138.190.15.46.1141639285.squirrel@mailer.dreamlab.net> Hello, I tried to use LDAP as user database backend, but it didn't really work out. I read that the LDAP patches are included, however, some files are missing (authTypes/LDAP.php). But adding those files doesn't really help neither. What is the state of the LDAP integration ? Is there a recent howto or description somewhere ? regards andr? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 02:32:17 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:32:17 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How to stream data directly to database without reading entire file into memory? Message-ID: <440C0FB1.3060205@mikefedyk.com> Hi all, I'm having an issue with the upload code. It reads the entire file into memory and base64 encodes it before sending it to the database. It fails storing a 5MB file with a 32MB memory limit. I looked through the adodb docs and thought I found a solution with UpdateBlobFile, but it reads the entire file into memory also. Searching through google didn't turn anything up for php, I found a few things for VB or .net but that won't help us here. Anyone have a solution? From sergiokessler at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 05:29:44 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 10:29:44 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> hi saint, I don't have a problem with this, but let me point that this is not a new experiment. for a unknow reasons many humans believe they are the first to do what they do, but in fact what they are doing has been tryed many moons ago... and many times has been also analyzed many moons ago... it happens to me in programming every time, when I'am confronted with a problem, my first reaction is "well, I can't be the only one with this problem, sure this problem has been raised before and solved before by someone else" so, instead of wasting my time trying to invent something already invented, I just focus my energy in searching for the available solution. and in my many years of programming I never invented something new :-) and this is exactly what I'm trying to tell you, don't be fooled thinking the problem you face rigth now, is something new to the usability of web systems. you are *not* the first to face this problem, in fact this problem has been raised, studied and analyzed many time ago (it comes from the frames era) and has been the subject of many people specialized in the field of web usability. yes, you can experiment with this problem, I don't have any problem with that, but what you are doing is nothing new. /sak ps: "(you lose the top tabs from eye-sight)" this is not a problem, it happens on almost every site. ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the whole page. On 3/5/06, Saint wrote: > After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about > using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. > > For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module > with non-div layout. > > The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in > 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. > > The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the > Show All Modules, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this > actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) > it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking > the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables > of records as usual. > > We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending > on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. > > So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? > > - Saint > > > > > > > Brian Devendorf wrote: > I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should > not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I > was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels > (guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with > two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" > screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels > rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a > small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. > > > On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > > 1. I don't use IE. > > 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the > vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). > > 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple > scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. > > > /sak > > On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > > saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two > vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... > > I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website > within a website"... > > look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking > about... > > see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept > of a > "page" has been broken... > > "The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, > since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. > Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that > doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding > their > way around a website or finding the content they wanted." > > what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, > jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: > http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html > > > it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see > what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I > rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling > the graph part (which is not what I want) > > > /sak > (*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web > usability. > > > > I'm sorry but I completely disagree. > > Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with > the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the > concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. > > And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't > scroll > the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is > because of > IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox > and in > Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still > using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the > AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho > Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > From libregeek at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 06:03:30 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:33:30 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Module Management Message-ID: <2315046d0603060603i420615d9x@mail.gmail.com> Hello vtiger team, Sorry for cross-posting, earlier I have posted the same thread in Vtiger Forums. I had experimented with dotproject for more than a year and the most striking feature I noticed about dotproject is the module management. In dotproject the mosules can be added and configured from the web-interface and most of them are independent. so we can easily move them off. This gives both site admins and developers much more flexibility and freedom. IMHO, some modules may be identified as core modules and they should be included by default. All other modules may be installed and used at the site admin's descretion. In this way we can avoid some of the modules like Shoutbox, dashboard if it's not required. This also enhance the development of more independent modules/plugins. It will also reduce the tasks of the core developers integrating the new modules. This has more significance now, because vtiger is moving on to new vtigerforge.com and this will also lead to the gradual development of vtigerCRM API. Like to hear from the developers in this regard. TIA Manilal From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 6 07:23:39 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:23:39 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available In-Reply-To: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com> References: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <200603061623.39881.fboudra@free.fr> > Hi Developers, > > The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following > location http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe > > Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as > there was execption during installation. > > Regards, > Rajkumar i looked at your changes as there's a related commit today (r4057) and tested installshield based installer. Installation works fine, but there's some mistake like config.template.php is broken. In htdocs\vtigerCRM dir, config.inc.php and config.template are identical. You re-introduced APACHE and MYSQL parameters, to fix installshield based installer : $mysql_dir = 'MYSQLINSTALLDIR'; $mysql_bundled = 'MYSQLBUNDLEDSTATUS'; $apache_dir = 'APACHEINSTALLDIR'; $apache_bin = 'APACHEBIN'; $apache_conf = 'APACHECONF'; $apache_port = 'APACHEPORT'; $apache_bundled = 'APACHEBUNDLED'; Do you continue to provide installshield based installer for future release or as already proposed, switch to vtigercrm addon for xampp (using nsis installer) ? $root_directory and all related dirs (like $cache_dir) are wrong, must be variables. In previous revision, we've got "_VT_*" You re-introduced version in database name: $db_name = 'vtigercrm4_2_4'; i removed it previously, because we didn't need to have a different database name for each release, and if we want a database versioning, please not in database name. Finally, you fixed installshield based installer but source installer is broken. cheers, Fathi PS: i didn't find any zip with the fixes sent to the mailing list. From saint at vtiger.com Mon Mar 6 07:09:44 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:39:44 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440C50B8.6090601@vtiger.com> Sak, I agree. There may be a solution out there. I will look into the usability resources and find out :-) cheers, Saint Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >hi saint, > >I don't have a problem with this, but let me point that this is not a >new experiment. > >for a unknow reasons many humans believe they are the first to do what >they do, but in fact what they are doing has been tryed many moons >ago... and many times has been also analyzed many moons ago... > >it happens to me in programming every time, when I'am confronted with >a problem, my first reaction is "well, I can't be the only one with >this problem, sure this problem has been raised before and solved >before by someone else" >so, instead of wasting my time trying to invent something already >invented, I just focus my energy in searching for the available >solution. >and in my many years of programming I never invented something new :-) > >and this is exactly what I'm trying to tell you, >don't be fooled thinking the problem you face rigth now, is something >new to the usability of web systems. > >you are *not* the first to face this problem, in fact this problem has >been raised, studied and analyzed many time ago (it comes from the >frames era) >and has been the subject of many people specialized in the field of >web usability. > >yes, you can experiment with this problem, I don't have any problem >with that, but what you are doing is nothing new. > > >/sak >ps: "(you lose the top tabs from eye-sight)" this is not a problem, it >happens on almost every site. >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the >whole page. > > >On 3/5/06, Saint wrote: > > >> After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about >>using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. >> >> For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module >>with non-div layout. >> >> The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in >>2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. >> >> The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the >>Show All Modules, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this >>actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) >>it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking >>the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables >>of records as usual. >> >> We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending >>on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. >> >> So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? >> >> - Saint >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Brian Devendorf wrote: >> I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >>not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >>was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >>(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >>two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >>screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >>rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >>small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. >> >> >>On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >> 1. I don't use IE. >> >>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >> >>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >> >> >>/sak >> >>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >> >> Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >> saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >> >>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>within a website"... >> >>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>about... >> >>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>of a >>"page" has been broken... >> >>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>their >>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >> >>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >> >> >>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>the graph part (which is not what I want) >> >> >>/sak >>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>usability. >> >> >> >> I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >> >>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >> >>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>scroll >>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>because of >>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>and in >>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >> >> _______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your >>desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, >>collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your >>desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, >>collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060306/134a19fa/attachment.htm From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 11:43:09 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 11:43:09 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigercrm 4.2.4rc2 build available In-Reply-To: <109d03d4868.1918216477718176054.8073463117345362115@@vtiger.com> References: <109d03d4868.1918216477718176054.8073463117345362115@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <440C90CD.7040809@mikefedyk.com> Posted in forum. Let's see what they find... Philip wrote: > Hi Developers, > > The exe and bin version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 is available in the following location > > http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.bin > http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.exe > > Regards, > Philip > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 13:03:54 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:03:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the >whole page. > Good. The less printing the better. ;) From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 13:16:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:16:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4057 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: config.template.php install/2setConfig.php In-Reply-To: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> First of all, did you even look at the diff before committing?! >Author: saraj >Date: Mon Mar 6 06:20:40 2006 >New Revision: 4057 > >Log: >changes made to support multiple packaging > >Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/config.template.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php > > > Checking differences without reporting white space: diff -uw config.template.php.r4056 config.template.php.r4057 >Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/config.template.php >--- config.template.php.r4056 2006-03-06 12:01:28.000000000 -0800 >+++ config.template.php.r4057 2006-03-06 12:01:40.000000000 -0800 >@@ -1,17 +1,17 @@ > /********************************************************************************* >- * The contents of this file are subject to the SugarCRM Public License Version 1.1.2 >- * ("License"); You may not use this file except in compliance with the >- * License. You may obtain a copy of the License at http://www.sugarcrm.com/SPL >- * Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" basis, >- * WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License for >- * the specific language governing rights and limitations under the License. >- * The Original Code is: SugarCRM Open Source >- * The Initial Developer of the Original Code is SugarCRM, Inc. >- * Portions created by SugarCRM are Copyright (C) SugarCRM, Inc.; >- * All Rights Reserved. >- * Contributor(s): ______________________________________. >-********************************************************************************/ >+3 * The contents of this file are subject to the SugarCRM Public License Version 1.1.2 >+4 * ("License"); You may not use this file except in compliance with the >+5 * License. You may obtain a copy of the License at http://www.sugarcrm.com/SPL >+6 * Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" basis, >+7 * WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License for >+8 * the specific language governing rights and limitations under the License. >+9 * The Original Code is: SugarCRM Open Source >+10 * The Initial Developer of the Original Code is SugarCRM, Inc. >+11 * Portions created by SugarCRM are Copyright (C) SugarCRM, Inc.; >+12 * All Rights Reserved. >+13 * Contributor(s): ______________________________________. >+14 ********************************************************************************/ > > include('vtigerversion.php'); > >@@ -33,20 +33,30 @@ > $HELPDESK_SUPPORT_NAME = 'your-domain name'; > > /* database configuration >- db_server >- db_port >- db_hostname >- db_username >- db_password >- db_name >-*/ >+36 db_server >+37 db_port >+38 db_hostname >+39 db_username >+40 db_password >+41 db_name >+42 */ >+ $mysql_dir = 'MYSQLINSTALLDIR'; > > Oh goody! We have number prefixes now! > >+ $mysql_bundled = 'MYSQLBUNDLEDSTATUS'; > NO This is not used in the code and if the installer needs it, then have the installer make a file that keeps track of this info (or use the registry). > $dbconfig['db_server'] = '_DBC_SERVER_'; >-$dbconfig['db_port'] = ':_DBC_PORT_'; >-$dbconfig['db_username'] = '_DBC_USER_'; >-$dbconfig['db_password'] = '_DBC_PASS_'; > $dbconfig['db_name'] = '_DBC_NAME_'; > $dbconfig['db_type'] = '_DBC_TYPE_'; >+$apache_dir = 'APACHEINSTALLDIR'; >+$apache_bin = 'APACHEBIN'; >+$apache_conf = 'APACHECONF'; >+$apache_port = 'APACHEPORT'; >+ $apache_bundled = 'APACHEBUNDLED'; > Same here. Don't keep variables used for the installer in the vtiger source. >+ $dbconfig['db_username'] = '_DBC_USER_'; >+ $dbconfig['db_password'] = '_DBC_PASS_'; >+ $dbconfig['db_port'] = ':_DBC_PORT_'; >+ $mysql_username = '_DBC_USER_'; >+ $mysql_password = '_DBC_PASS_'; >+ $mysql_port = '_DBC_PORT_'; > You are now duplicating variables! > > // TODO: test if port is empty > // TODO: set db_hostname dependending on db_type >@@ -78,24 +88,24 @@ > $site_URL = '_SITE_URL_'; > > // root directory path >-$root_directory = '_VT_ROOTDIR_'; >+ $root_directory = 'C:\Program Files\vtigerCRM4.2.4\apache\htdocs\vtigerCRM/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // cache direcory path >-$cache_dir = '_VT_CACHEDIR_'; >+ $cache_dir = 'cache/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // tmp_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = images/ >-$tmp_dir = '_VT_TMPDIR_'; >+ $tmp_dir = 'cache/images/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // import_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = import/ >-$import_dir = '_VT_IMPORTDIR_'; >+ $import_dir = 'cache/import/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // upload_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = upload/ >-$upload_dir = '_VT_UPLOADDIR_'; >+ $upload_dir = 'cache/upload/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // mail server parameters >-$mail_server = '_MAIL_SERVER_'; >-$mail_server_username = '_MAIL_USERNAME_'; >-$mail_server_password = '_MAIL_PASSWORD_'; >+ $mail_server = ''; >+ $mail_server_username = ''; >+ $mail_server_password = ''; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. >Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php >============================================================================== >--- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php (original) >+++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php Mon Mar 6 06:20:40 2006 >@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ > $cache_dir = "cache/"; > > if (is_file("config.php") && is_file("config.inc.php")) { >- require_once("config.php"); >+ require_once("config.template.php"); > > Bad. config.template.php is not meant to be called from the code. It is only used by the installer. > session_start(); > > if(isset($upload_maxsize)) >@@ -100,10 +100,10 @@ > > if (isset($_REQUEST['db_name'])) > $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; >- elseif (isset($dbconfig['db_name'])) >+ elseif (isset($dbconfig['db_name']) && $dbconfig['db_name']!='_DBC_NAME_') > > Bad. The keywords are supposed to be replaced by the installer by search and replace. > $db_name = $dbconfig['db_name']; > else >- $db_name = 'vtigercrm'; >+ $db_name = 'vtigercrm4_2_4'; > > Bad. I see no reason to have the version in the database name. > > !isset($_REQUEST['db_drop_tables']) ? $db_drop_tables = "0" : $db_drop_tables = $_REQUEST['db_drop_tables']; > >@@ -143,7 +143,7 @@ > !isset($_REQUEST['db_username']) ? $db_username = $mysql_username : $db_username = $_REQUEST['db_username']; > !isset($_REQUEST['db_password']) ? $db_password= $mysql_password : $db_password = $_REQUEST['db_password']; > */ >- !isset($_REQUEST['db_name']) ? $db_name = "vtigercrm" : $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; >+ !isset($_REQUEST['db_name']) ? $db_name = "vtigercrm4_2_4" : $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; > > Bad. I see no reason to have the version in the database name. From larenas at internext.com.mx Tue Mar 7 03:36:00 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:36:00 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4057 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: config.template.php install/2setConfig.php In-Reply-To: <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> References: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <440D7020.8060308@internext.com.mx> Hi, somebody can help me, I dont know how register a deliver, i just can register accounts, customers, etc. From jamieinnh at gmail.com Tue Mar 7 13:18:04 2006 From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:18:04 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <994473020603071318h574b9df2g6ff89ece94324e02@mail.gmail.com> Here is an example in real life how a scroll bar within a browser, and how it distracts from the UI of the article. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11485858/ Something like this are things we should avoid when thinking about the UI in vTiger Jamie On 3/6/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the > >whole page. > > > Good. The less printing the better. ;) > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Le Mercredi 8 Mars 2006 16:37, vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com a ?crit : > Author: saraj > Date: Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 2006 > New Revision: 4079 > > Log: > changes made to point to install.php after installation > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php > =========================================================================== >=== --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 2006 > @@ -356,7 +356,7 @@ > } > > require_once('config.inc.php'); > -if (!isset($dbconfig['db_hostname'])) { > +if (!isset($dbconfig['db_hostname']) || > $dbconfig['db_status']=='_DB_STAT_') { header("Location: install.php"); > exit(); > } > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php > =========================================================================== >=== --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php (original) +++ > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 > 2006 @@ -158,6 +158,7 @@ > $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_SERVER_", $mail_server, $buffer); > $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_USERNAME_", $mail_server_username, > $buffer); $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_PASSWORD_", $mail_server_password, > $buffer); + $buffer = str_replace( "_DB_STAT_", "true", $buffer); > > fwrite($includeHandle, $buffer); > } > > > _______________________________________________ > vtigercrm-commits mailing list > vtigercrm-commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > http://lists.vtigercrm.com/mailman/listinfo/vtigercrm-commits From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 8 09:47:33 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:47:33 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please add me to your developer list In-Reply-To: <200603081506.k28F627L016309@vtigerforge.com> References: <200603081506.k28F627L016309@vtigerforge.com> Message-ID: <440F18B5.1040700@mikefedyk.com> You need to go to http://lists.vtigercrm.com to subscribe to the list. We can't do it for you. Information Team wrote: >Please add me to your developer list > >Many thanks > >Gary Mitchell > > > > >Phone: +44 (0) 870 490 1261 >Fax: +44 (0)871 661 7137 >Email: info at everydaysolutions.co.uk >Web: www.everydaysolutions.co.uk > >The information contained in this document is privileged information and is >intended for the personal and confidential use of the addressee only. If you >are not the intended recipient, any review, distribution or copying of this >document is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately and >delete the document from all computer systems. All title copyrights and >intellectual property rights in and attached to this email their content and >any copies thereof are owned by Everyday Solutions. All rights not >expressly granted are reserved by Everyday Solutions. > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From larenas at internext.com.mx Wed Mar 8 04:57:10 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:57:10 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME Message-ID: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers nothing. Help please. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 8 12:29:04 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:29:04 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> References: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <440F3E90.2080000@mikefedyk.com> Does this patch fix the problem? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers >nothing. > >Help please. >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From philip at vtiger.com Wed Mar 8 10:18:51 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:18:51 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Updated rc2 version - installation issues fixed Message-ID: <109db152c88.-8674574812899896242.64192681946233716@@vtiger.com> Hi Developers, The updated versions of exe and bin for vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 is available in the following location, installation fixes has been incorporated in the updated builds http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.bin http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.exe Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just call "php install.php" to do the database population and you're done. I also told Philip to copy config.template.php to config.inc.php thinking he was going to replace all keywords during the exe/bin installation so as soon as the exe/bin installer is finished,you can login to vtiger. But if you want to have the config.template.php file changed instead that's fine. -------------------------- final words, if you use source installer to finish installation, you can use the method "patch template". If you bypass source installer, i agree with mike, you can copy template to inc and do your add-in on it. 2 differents solutions to same problem. i'm for the solution where you do all installation stuff in installer without using source installer in "3rd party" package (i mean not source installer). cheers, Fathi From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Wed Mar 8 15:50:25 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 23:50:25 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Removing crmentity Message-ID: <86f04e340603081550j7072ebf1t8ca904480dc5a526@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, To delete one crmentity in vtiger php pages, it is "update crmentity set deleted = 1 where...", marking it as deleted (mark_deleted method) and all relationships: recurringevent, activity_reminder, ... are "delete from ...". (Delete.php in each module) But in vtigerolservice.php (vtiger5) the activities are only marked as deleted!... How about relationships ? My question is: why this kind of operations aren't centralized in entity class ? Create, Retrieve, Update, Delete... Best Regards, Juao -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060308/276a7f5c/attachment.htm From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 9 04:18:27 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:18:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 Message-ID: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> Hi, Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Our feedback aren't listened ... just an example : database name versioning Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. we change/ you change game isn't funny ... best regards, Fathi From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 06:46:58 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:46:58 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 In-Reply-To: <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> References: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> Don't worry about it fathi. The binary installers never worked for shit before, and why should that change? There is a reason why I have recommended to everyone to use XAMPP 1.4.15 in the forums. Once we replace binary the installers this problem will be solved. Mike Fathi Boudra wrote: >>Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. >> >> > >Our feedback aren't listened ... >just an example : database name versioning > >Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. > >we change/ you change game isn't funny ... > >best regards, > >Fathi >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From andre at dreamlab.net Thu Mar 9 07:10:49 2006 From: andre at dreamlab.net (Andre Roth) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:10:49 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP Message-ID: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? Where can I find documentation about this ? Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on line 530 Thanks for your help Andr? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 09:19:23 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:19:23 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 In-Reply-To: <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> References: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <4410639B.1000105@mikefedyk.com> Hi everyone, Richie and I have discussed this issue, and agreed to spread this out over 4.2.4 and 4.2.5. A lot has been changed in the binary installers in a short time (including the build system to SVN) so I'm willing to accept it the way it is for the 4.2.4 release as long as everything works on all sides. That includes, the source installer, ubuntu/debian installer and linux/windows bin/exe installer. I think that is possible with the changes that have been made so far. Correct me if that isn't the case. After that we can spend the next ~4 weeks getting it ready for the 4.2.5 release. I hope we can all agree on this. I'm planning on making an 4.2.4rc3 release in the next few days with any installer fixes that are required, so any help in testing the installers for these previous states during install would be much appreciated. case1: no previous installation of mysql or apache. case2: no previous installation of mysql but apache is already installed. case3: previous installation of mysql but apache is not installed. case4: both apache and mysql already installed. Mike Mike Fedyk wrote: >Don't worry about it fathi. The binary installers never worked for shit >before, and why should that change? There is a reason why I have >recommended to everyone to use XAMPP 1.4.15 in the forums. Once we >replace binary the installers this problem will be solved. > >Mike > >Fathi Boudra wrote: > > > >>>Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Our feedback aren't listened ... >>just an example : database name versioning >> >>Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. >> >>we change/ you change game isn't funny ... >> >>best regards, >> >>Fathi >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From andre.roth at dreamlab.net Thu Mar 9 07:08:11 2006 From: andre.roth at dreamlab.net (Andre Roth) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:08:11 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP Message-ID: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? Where can I find documentation about this ? Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on line 530 Thanks for your help Andr? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060309/0d675a9a/signature.pgp From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 9 09:36:59 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:36:59 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 Message-ID: <109e015334f.-3220625800868453815.-2820986651640595013@@vtiger.com> Hi, I thought i have discussed about the feedback over the chat. Please see my reply below. Regarding Installation using bin or exe the database and apacheparameters are populated in the config.inc.php, the config.template.phpfile is not disturbed at any time. Copying config.template.php toconfig.inc.php and replacing all keywords during the exe/bininstallation has been handled. Other feedbacks which includes changing the hardcorded db values, andthe versioning were not taken up in this version as we are not sureabout the consequence and the impacts in changing the existing setup,but can be taken up with 4.2.5 after having a series of testing. Regards, Philip >Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. Our feedback aren't listened ... just an example : database name versioning Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. we change/ you change game isn't funny ... best regards, Fathi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060309/2cda1fcb/attachment.htm From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 04:15:33 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:15:33 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME PLEASE Message-ID: <44101C65.3020403@internext.com.mx> I had ploblems with quotes module, but i resolve it changing save.php file, but when i do it some other problems appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *445* From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 11:48:06 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:48:06 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME PLEASE In-Reply-To: <44101C65.3020403@internext.com.mx> References: <44101C65.3020403@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <44108676.3010609@mikefedyk.com> What changes did you make (post the section of code you changed or make a diff with winmerge)? Did you try the changes I referenced to in your other post? Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >I had ploblems with quotes module, but i resolve it changing save.php >file, but when i do it some other problems appears: > >*Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in >*/var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *445* >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 07:54:36 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:54:36 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module Message-ID: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> well, i try to say you what's my problem 1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. 2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you help me? * From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 15:02:41 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:02:41 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module In-Reply-To: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> References: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4410B411.3010100@mikefedyk.com> Sorry, I can't help you until you post the changes you made. Did you try the patch I pointed out to you? Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >well, i try to say you what's my problem > >1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it >not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. > >2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message >appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in >*/var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 > >i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you >help me? >* >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 08:30:23 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:30:23 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] More Information for my problem Message-ID: <4410581F.7040006@internext.com.mx> The error that happen is in the next function: **********************Function in data/PearDatabase.php********************** function query_result(&$result, $row, $col=0) { //$this->println("ADODB query_result r=".$row." c=".$col); not exist-------> $result->Move($row); $rowdata = $this->change_key_case($result->FetchRow()); //$this->println($rowdata); $coldata = $rowdata[$col]; //$this->println("ADODB query_result ". $coldata); return $coldata; } From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 08:47:51 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:47:51 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I send you the image of my problem Message-ID: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> Please see the image and help me -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: error.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 144307 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060309/1eb55079/error-0001.jpe From dan.means at teamsrs.com Thu Mar 9 16:34:04 2006 From: dan.means at teamsrs.com (Dan Means) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:34:04 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module In-Reply-To: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> References: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4410C97C.1000704@teamsrs.com> Your problem is most likely in your changes to the save.php module -- you need to post your mods. Most likely, you've got a problem in the sql syntax in the save.php module. I had to make some changes in the "savesalesorder" version. If you added a new field/column, you have to fix your insert to explicitly create the values for each column name & values. Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > well, i try to say you what's my problem > > 1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it > not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. > > 2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message > appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in > */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 > > i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you > help me? > * > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > -- Dan Means Mission Viejo, CA www.dkmeansonline.com www.teamsrs.com From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 16:34:29 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:34:29 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP In-Reply-To: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4410C995.90109@mikefedyk.com> I don't think that is a very popular mod you're trying. Can you post the changes you have done and your environment like PHP, MySQL version, etc. Mike Andre Roth wrote: >Hello, > >I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. > >Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? >Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? >Where can I find documentation about this ? >Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? > >I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: > >Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object >in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on >line 530 > > >Thanks for your help > > Andr? > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From libregeek at gmail.com Thu Mar 9 21:52:51 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:22:51 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP In-Reply-To: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <2315046d0603092152y4e25f7ccv@mail.gmail.com> On 09/03/06, Andre Roth wrote: > > Hello, > > I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. > > Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? > Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? > Where can I find documentation about this ? > Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I followed the steps given below and it's working fine. http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=1689 regards Manilal From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Thu Mar 9 23:52:54 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:52:54 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I send you the image of my problem In-Reply-To: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> References: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <1141977175.5698.8.camel@linux.site> Just my 2 cents, this list is called vtigercrm-developpers. For free support you have vtiger forum. For enterprise class support you can contact vtiger. For Quotes, this is a tips, you can't create Quotes before having created a potential, no need to change save.php. May be your problem is more complex than explain, use the forum, you can have more answer. Thanks, Aissa Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 ? 17:47 +0100, Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas a ?crit : > Please see the image and help me > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From richie at vtiger.com Fri Mar 10 01:59:56 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:59:56 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Need volunteers for integrating 4.2.4 onwards fixes into 5.0 Message-ID: <109e3991dc8.5278160118441625590.4984050560728575825@@vtiger.com> Hello! I need help in porting the fixes from 4.2.4 onwards to 5.0. Those interested please let me know. To integrate the fixes means to peruse through all the changesets and pickup those that are required. This will basically mean that we have to go through n number of changesets. I am willing to listen to any smart ways to go ahead with this process. Please pitch in for help. Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060310/006a131a/attachment.htm From mickie at vtiger.com Fri Mar 10 02:57:19 2006 From: mickie at vtiger.com (Mickie) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:57:19 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger Message-ID: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> Dear Team, I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 Migration with your help. so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration(Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 youcan see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so thiswill need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know ifyou have any other ideas to do this migration. In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to testthe migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2and for the new migration script). Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. Thanks & Regards Mickie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mickie wrote: > Dear Team, > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > Migration with your help. > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sat Mar 11 09:32:57 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:32:57 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Is somebody working on Image Graph? I have started some writing on Graph.php basis, here is a first result : It doesn't seem so much difficult to migrate, but documentation is very poor. So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be useful. TIA Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060311/984c3867/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be > useful. > > TIA > > Michel > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sat Mar 11 20:27:28 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:27:28 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <44134378.7070000@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Yes I do. There will be probably some minor changes in graph appearance but it can be done. What I have done on leads by sales stage graph does not require to change algorithm so it can be fast. Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk > Envoy??: samedi 11 mars 2006 22:39 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph > > This is great Michel! > > Do you think this can be done for all graphs in vtiger in the next few > weeks? If so we may be able to get this into 4.2.5. > > Mike > > Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > > > Is somebody working on Image Graph? > > > > I have started some writing on Graph.php basis, here is a first result : > > > > It doesn?t seem so much difficult to migrate, but documentation is > > very poor. So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be > > useful. > > > > TIA > > > > Michel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sun Mar 12 22:27:13 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:27:13 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph Message-ID: Hi all, I think that result is not so bad on pipeline by sales stage, so . You cannot see it on the picture but targets and alts are working. Remaining 2 minor problems for which I have not been able to find a solution : The ticks on category axis cannot be placed correctly Not able to avoid grid lines to be foreground I will document the code as soon I release the replacing Charts.php. Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/da6a166e/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Anand From wildfire at progsoc.org Sun Mar 12 17:49:05 2006 From: wildfire at progsoc.org (Anand Kumria) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:49:05 +1100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] list not moderated References: <40110.3757824332$1141024115@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:08:05 -0800, Richie wrote: > Dear Team, > > The mailing list is not moderated anymore. > The moderation was removed quite a long time ago. Well the mailing list certainly claims to be at the moment. Anand From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 01:02:25 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:02:25 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] list not moderated In-Reply-To: References: <40110.3757824332$1141024115@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: <44153521.7030801@mikefedyk.com> Anand Kumria wrote: >On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:08:05 -0800, Richie wrote: > > > >>Dear Team, >> >>The mailing list is not moderated anymore. >>The moderation was removed quite a long time ago. >> >> > >Well the mailing list certainly claims to be at the moment. > > There is a list of people who can post unmoderated. Everyone else is moderated. Be good and you'll be added to the unmoderated list. ;) From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 13 01:20:16 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:20:16 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] repository location? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603131020.17105.fboudra@free.fr> > Hi, hi > According to and > subsequently , the > repository is available via Sourceforge CVS. > > Indeed, looking through the Sourceforge CVS browser you can see changes > made ~11 days ago for the 5.0 Alpha 2 release. > However according to various posts on this mailing list, information on > the repository is available from > . > Which one is correct? I'd certainly appreciate it if someone could fixup > the initial links if they are incorrect. Are they seperate trees? If so, > what is the relationship between them? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage is the correct one. cheers, Fathi From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 01:06:52 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:06:52 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] repository location? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4415362C.8010502@mikefedyk.com> We switched to SVN a few weeks ago. Use that. We're waiting for the vtiger core team to make some changes to the backend of vtiger.com before the wiki can be cleaned up. Anand Kumria wrote: >Hi, > >According to and >subsequently , the >repository is available via Sourceforge CVS. > >Indeed, looking through the Sourceforge CVS browser you can see changes >made ~11 days ago for the 5.0 Alpha 2 release. > >However according to various posts on this mailing list, information on >the repository is available from >. > >Which one is correct? I'd certainly appreciate it if someone could fixup >the initial links if they are incorrect. Are they seperate trees? If so, >what is the relationship between them? > >Thanks, >Anand > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 13 01:31:29 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:31:29 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Le Lundi 13 Mars 2006 07:27, Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit : > Hi all, hi michel > I think that result is not so bad on pipeline by sales stage, so . > You cannot see it on the picture but targets and alts are working. > Remaining 2 minor problems for which I have not been able to find a > solution > The ticks on category axis cannot be placed correctly > Not able to avoid grid lines to be foreground > I will document the code as soon I release the replacing Charts.php. i don't know if that can help you, this project use image_graph, and can be a source example : http://secureideas.sourceforge.net cheers, Fathi From mickie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 13 01:41:24 2006 From: mickie at vtiger.com (Mickie) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:41:24 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger In-Reply-To: <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> References: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <109f2fb3d66.-339647440922358887.-7786347594590860361@@vtiger.com> Hi Mike, Thanks for your suggestions. i agree. This sugar migration script should go into vtigerforge or cvs. we will checkin these files ASAP. Regarding the integration with import functions, as of now we canimport any other systems data through import option if that data is inCSV file. Generalizing the migration process means whether we want make thismigration script as general to all systems? how is this possible? Please excuse me if i am wrong and let me know some more informations. Thanks & Regards Mickie ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ---- Hi Mickie, I think this should either go into the vtigerforge or in the main source base. Maybe we should integrate this with the import functions. That would help with generalizing the migration process and allow migration from other systems than sugar also. Mickie wrote: > Dear Team, > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > Migration with your help. > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/787d9465/attachment.htm From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 02:00:46 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:00:46 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger In-Reply-To: <109f2fb3d66.-339647440922358887.-7786347594590860361@@vtiger.com> References: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> <109f2fb3d66.-339647440922358887.-7786347594590860361@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <441542CE.7000900@mikefedyk.com> How do you import notes from csv? Mickie wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Thanks for your suggestions. > i agree. This sugar migration script should go into vtigerforge or > cvs. we will checkin these files ASAP. > > Regarding the integration with import functions, as of now we can > import any other systems data through import option if that data is in > CSV file. > Generalizing the migration process means whether we want make this > migration script as general to all systems? how is this possible? > Please excuse me if i am wrong and let me know some more informations. > > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > > > > ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ---- > > Hi Mickie, > > I think this should either go into the vtigerforge or in the main source > base. > > Maybe we should integrate this with the import functions. That would > help with generalizing the migration process and allow migration from > other systems than sugar also. > > Mickie wrote: > > > Dear Team, > > > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > > Migration with your help. > > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > > Thanks & Regards > > Mickie > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com Mon Mar 13 05:18:08 2006 From: mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com (Mike Crowe) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:18:08 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? Message-ID: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> Hi folks, I had finally had it, so I used phpCodeBeautifier to reformat all of the source in 4.2.4 and I'm very pleased. (http://www.waterproof.fr/products/phpCodeBeautifier/). However, as imagined, diff's are now screwed up, mainly because of 1 issue: I like: if ( blah, blah ) { /// } I can only get phpCB to do: if ( blah, blah ) { //// } I've attached main index.php for you to see. Are you interested in applying to trunk? Cheers! Mike Yahoo: mikecrowe MSNM: mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com Gmail: drmikecrowe at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Are you interested in > applying to trunk? seconded, not perfect but do a great job. we can probably change slightly formating rules to do add extra space after else statement ? : }elseif ( }else{ and if it's ok for all, update : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/CodingStyle according to phpcodebeautifier. From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 13 07:25:07 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:25:07 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi Fathi, Thanks a lot, I will have a look on it but I think that I have got some knowledge on Image Graph ans that I am going faster enough (here is the second one) : Half of the way done! Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra > Envoy? : lundi 13 mars 2006 10:31 > ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph > > hi michel > > i don't know if that can help you, this project use image_graph, and can > be a > source example : http://secureideas.sourceforge.net > > cheers, > > Fathi > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please feel free to pitch in your views. a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two different beasts. Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. To briefly mention our status over here :- We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we write, I will be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to integrate the required UIs esp that of the Security module. Kindly put forward your views so that together, we can make vtiger crm a better product, a better experience. Thank You, Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Additionally, there's the pain point of ensuring the PostgreSQL fixes don't break the existing MySQL support. If you have any recommendations around how you would like this to play out, please let me know. I have some time coming up where I could assist. Mike, let us know what you're thoughts are and we can proceed from there. Ideally, I think we should make the changes in one fell-swoop so that they're pulled into the mainline branch right away. Is there a window of 3 days, say 2 weeks from now, where we could do this? Regards, - Joel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those relationships from database. IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some other issues came up...). Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other modules are affected too... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Does this patch fix the problem? > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 > > Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > > >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > > > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers > >nothing. > > > >Help please. > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/852497aa/attachment.htm From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 12:03:32 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:03:32 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <86f04e340603131203q9f3e079vd6f3db11af833b11@mail.gmail.com> Hello Joel, I use Zend Studio, mainly because his debugger. I would like to add this issue: * large amounts of commented code Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/13/06, Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately --mainly > because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice > there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 > of the following issues: > > * Undeclared variables > * Include headers reference files that don't exist > * Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > > Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean > this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a > profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance > out of it. > > Regards, > > - Joel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/877b0e22/attachment-0001.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 12:27:14 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:27:14 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415D5A2.3020407@mikefedyk.com> As soon as 4.2.4 releases, there will be a branch created for postgres support. 4.2.5 will move along, (I'm planning on one release per month) and the parts ready in the postgres branch will be merged. This avoids hurrying the postgres support and doesn't delay 4.2.5 if things don't go as planned. Mike Joel Rydbeck wrote: >Mike / Allan / Jeff, > >My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > >1. Allan has some major changes that will probably need to be checked in (last I saw was a delta for the 4.2.4 release). >2. I'd like to go through and make sure everything else is working. There are some nuances like quotation marks, and odd-spacing that break the SQL standard and thus PostgreSQL. >3. Jeff may be on-board for testing the PG side, but I haven't spoken with him for awhile. >4. Additionally, there's the pain point of ensuring the PostgreSQL fixes don't break the existing MySQL support. If you have any recommendations around how you would like this to play out, please let me know. I have some time coming up where I could assist. > >Mike, let us know what you're thoughts are and we can proceed from there. Ideally, I think we should make the changes in one fell-swoop so that they're pulled into the mainline branch right away. Is there a window of 3 days, say 2 weeks from now, where we could do this? > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 12:34:15 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:34:15 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when we're not preparing for a release.. Mike Joel Rydbeck wrote: >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 of the following issues: > >* Undeclared variables >* Include headers reference files that don't exist >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance out of it. > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 13:16:54 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:16:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> Someone on the forums addressed a bunch of the notice errors (sorry I don't recall who). I think most of the changes made it into 4.2.2 but I could be mistaken. Surprisingly (to me at least) cleaning up the notice errors offered a substantial speed increase. On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php > is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is > to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. > > I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when > we're not preparing for a release.. > > Mike > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 of the following issues: > > > >* Undeclared variables > >* Include headers reference files that don't exist > >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > > > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance out of it. > > > >Regards, > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From arodes at onweald.com Mon Mar 13 13:17:57 2006 From: arodes at onweald.com (Andrew Rodes) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:17:57 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603131149m50f51515oa6097d05f993a020@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> Try the patch with http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/51 I basically implemented the solution recommended a few weeks ago and submitted the patch with tic #51. I noticed that it appears this patch has not been rolled into the working branch at http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2/, but im not totally sure where the current release candidate code is. anyway .. try this patch and let us know what you found. In my testing, Quotes appeared to start working. during my testing with that patch. Also, I submitted bug 48, which I think may have a similar root cause as 51, but i have not had time to implement a fix. Andy Rodes Onweald _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Joao Oliveira Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:50 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME Hello, I've doing some tests today in vtiger, and quotes still doesn't work. The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those relationships from database. IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some other issues came up...). Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other modules are affected too... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: Does this patch fix the problem? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers >nothing. > >Help please. >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/33b07741/attachment.htm From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 13:25:02 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:25:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? In-Reply-To: <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> I'd love to see the code reformatted. I agree with phpCB though it should be: if ( blah, blah ) { //// } ;p Anything that's consistent would be great though. The problem of course is you kind of mess up the repository checking in a bunch of changes like that. If it was done first thing after the 4.2.4 release it shouldn't effect anyone working off of SVN too badly but it would make patches created by users using the release more difficult to integrate. On 3/13/06, Fathi Boudra wrote: > > I've attached main index.php for you to see. Are you interested in > > applying to trunk? > > seconded, not perfect but do a great job. > > we can probably change slightly formating rules to do add extra space after > else statement ? : > }elseif ( > }else{ > > and if it's ok for all, update : > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/CodingStyle > > according to phpcodebeautifier. > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 13:39:41 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:39:41 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86f04e340603131339t4928ae36o2f034d2b0d48e4e@mail.gmail.com> i think it was Terry (aka tigerincanada) in this topic http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3529 On 3/13/06, Allan Bush wrote: > > Someone on the forums addressed a bunch of the notice errors (sorry I > don't recall who). I think most of the changes made it into 4.2.2 but > I could be mistaken. Surprisingly (to me at least) cleaning up the > notice errors offered a substantial speed increase. > > On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php > > is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is > > to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. > > > > I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when > > we're not preparing for a release.. > > > > Mike > > > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > > > >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately > --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, > I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc > results in 5-20 of the following issues: > > > > > >* Undeclared variables > > >* Include headers reference files that don't exist > > >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe > items > > > > > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean > this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a > profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance > out of it. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/067b256c/attachment-0001.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 13:57:36 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:57:36 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4415EAD0.3050709@mikefedyk.com> Allan Bush wrote: >I'd love to see the code reformatted. I agree with phpCB though it should be: > >if ( blah, blah ) { > //// >} > > >;p > > I like that formatting also, as long as it is with *tabs not spaces*. >Anything that's consistent would be great though. The problem of >course is you kind of mess up the repository checking in a bunch of >changes like that. If it was done first thing after the 4.2.4 release >it shouldn't effect anyone working off of SVN too badly but it would >make patches created by users using the release more difficult to >integrate. > I'd be willing to take formatting fixes on a per-file basis as long as the actual patch that does the reformatting doesn't included any non-formatting changes. I think reformatting the entire source tree would be a bad step at this point. But if you are making changes in a certain area, submit a formatting fix patch for that area and I'll take it. Mike From larenas at internext.com.mx Mon Mar 13 07:23:11 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:23:11 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! Message-ID: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> I can't create a sales order from quote registry, if i try create sale order in quotes view, i can view the order created but i can't save it. My version of vtiger: *Version: * 4.2 GA Mysql : 4.1 PHP: 4 APACHE: 2 an other question can you say me the url for csv stage 2? Thanks. From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 14:27:34 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:27:34 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> References: <86f04e340603131149m50f51515oa6097d05f993a020@mail.gmail.com> <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> Message-ID: <86f04e340603131427y48e20b48w6f941e633f6330e5@mail.gmail.com> Hello Andrew, With that patch I've successfully insert one quote in database. Thus, when i go to Quotes ListView php came up with the following error: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in * c:\inetpub\wwwroot\vtiger42\include\database\PearDatabase.php* on line *440 *The error happens in line 3146 of include/utils.php: ---- elseif($module == 'Quotes' && $name == 'Potential Name') { $potential_id = $adb->query_result($list_result,$i-1,"potentialid"); $potential_name = getPotentialName($potential_id); $value = ''.$potential_name.''; } ---- When vtiger try to call getPotentialName() and potentialid passed is null. This kind of troubles start to came up when we pass from '' to null... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira. On 3/13/06, Andrew Rodes wrote: > > Try the patch with http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/51 > > I basically implemented the solution recommended a few weeks ago and > submitted the patch with tic #51. I noticed that it appears this patch has > not been rolled into the working branch at > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2/, but im not > totally sure where the current release candidate code is. > > anyway .. try this patch and let us know what you found. In my testing, > Quotes appeared to start working. during my testing with that patch. > Also, I submitted bug 48, which I think may have a similar root cause as > 51, but i have not had time to implement a fix. > > > Andy Rodes > Onweald > > ------------------------------ > *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto: > vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *On Behalf Of *Joao > Oliveira > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2006 1:50 PM > *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME > > Hello, > > I've doing some tests today in vtiger, and quotes still doesn't work. > > The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: > > insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, > team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, > adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) > values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', > 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') > > when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the > generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. > > It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those > relationships from database. > IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to > insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some > other issues came up...). > > Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other > modules are affected too... > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira > > On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > > Does this patch fix the problem? > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 > > > > Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > > > > >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > > > > > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers > > >nothing. > > > > > >Help please. > > >_______________________________________________ > > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/e42168f8/attachment.htm From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 14:50:46 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:50:46 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: Joel Rydbeck wrote: > Mike / Allan / Jeff, > > My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > would work best from a timeline for making the changes? The original idea was to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production instance on mysql. I propose the following: - Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough assent, IMO. - I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. - As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. Thoughts? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 15:00:37 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:00:37 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! In-Reply-To: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> References: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4415F995.3050906@mikefedyk.com> I suggest you look at the name of this list. You have been referred to patches that will help solve the bug you are encountering. This is the area for competent developers. We will point you in the right direction but not do the work for free. If you can't apply a patch, then I suggest you contact one of us privately for paid support and/or hosting. Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >I can't create a sales order from quote registry, if i try create sale >order in quotes view, i can view the order created but i can't save it. > >My version of vtiger: *Version: * 4.2 GA >Mysql : 4.1 >PHP: 4 >APACHE: 2 > >an other question can you say me the url for csv stage 2? > >Thanks. > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 15:04:34 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:04:34 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415FA82.50108@mikefedyk.com> I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. Mike Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >> >>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >> >> > >The original idea was to keep >vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it >could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >instance on mysql. > >I propose the following: > >- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >assent, IMO. > >- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in >sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity >of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity >on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. > >- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap >into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >Thoughts? > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 15:01:49 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:01:49 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> <4415EAD0.3050709@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > I think reformatting the entire source tree would be a bad step at this > point. Several subversion books have concurred that wholesale code beautification is a problem for concurrent developers, and historical diff viewing. The checkin is cake for the beautifier, but the next update/merge is hell for everyone with modified checkouts planning checkins of their own. The only way to mitigate is to announce a code freeze on a certain section of the repository, and ask that everyone clear out their working copies of queued commits. It should also happen at a low point of commit activity. I think our best opportunity would be to beautify *both* vtigercrm/trunk and vtigercrm/branches/4.2 right before the forward-port of 4.2 fixes to the trunk (testing to see that nothing has broken on either, of course). > I'd be willing to take formatting fixes on a per-file basis as long as > the actual patch that does the reformatting doesn't included any > non-formatting changes. Yes, per-file is probably the biggest whitespace cleanup chunk you can expect to be practical on any given commit, unless there is an agreed-upon repository freeze. P.S. It would be wise to do any code beautification only on vtigercrm modules proper, not any contained snapshot of third party code. From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com Mon Mar 13 15:49:39 2006 From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:49:39 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 Message-ID: Jeff / Mike / Allan, Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on this one. Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose ends. I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? Regards, - Joel -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fedyk Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. Mike Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >> >>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >> >> > >The original idea was to keep >vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it >could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >instance on mysql. > >I propose the following: > >- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >assent, IMO. > >- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in >sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity >of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity >on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. > >- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap >into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >Thoughts? > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 15:56:40 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:56:40 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> I'll help. :) One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines for better maintainability. Comments? Joel Rydbeck wrote: >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on >this one. > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose >ends. > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of >Mike Fedyk >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > >I like it. > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > >Mike > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >>> >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>The original idea was to keep >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that >> >> >it > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. >> >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >>instance on mysql. >> >>I propose the following: >> >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >>assent, IMO. >> >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration >> >> >in > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the >> >> >purity > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change >> >> >velocity > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX >> >> >status. > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can >> >> >bootstrap > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. >> >>Thoughts? >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> >> >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 16:00:16 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:00:16 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! In-Reply-To: <44159FD6.7090706@internext.com.mx> References: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> <4415F995.3050906@mikefedyk.com> <4415990B.2030000@internext.com.mx> <441600C2.2000603@mikefedyk.com> <44159FD6.7090706@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <44160790.10608@mikefedyk.com> Great! I'll add this to my list of patches to review. Mike Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > Well, if some body have problem with save sales orders trough qoute > module, i solve it do it: > > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > // New Lines HERE > if(empty($value)) > { > $value = 'null'; > } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 19:26:54 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:26:54 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415FA82.50108@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. The branch vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration is open for committers to integrate their postgresql support code. Please file tickets for as many identifiable postgresql issues as possible, we want to make it possible for the vtigercrm team to track this work on vtigercrm/trunk. I will merge any changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 into this branch, to keep the diff as small as possible and speed the eventual merge back to vtigercrm/branches/4.2. From allan.bush at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 17:31:51 2006 From: allan.bush at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:31:51 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> Yeah breaking the queries up into multiple lines would be a huge help when dealing with diff files and it improves readability (maybe we should come up with a query formatting guide to standardize when to break a line and how much to indent the next line) . I'm really busy today and maybe tomorrow but I can merge in a bunch of changes after that. On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > I'll help. :) > > One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no > more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines > for better maintainability. > > Comments? > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > > > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on > >this one. > > > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of > >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > > > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose > >ends. > > > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with > >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > > > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have > >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > > > >Regards, > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of > >Mike Fedyk > >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM > >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > > > >I like it. > > > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > > > >Mike > > > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > > > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, > >>> > >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>The original idea was to keep > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that > >> > >> > >it > > > > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into > >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >> > >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug > >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to > >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production > >>instance on mysql. > >> > >>I propose the following: > >> > >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start > >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough > >>assent, IMO. > >> > >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration > >> > >> > >in > > > > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to > >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the > >> > >> > >purity > > > > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by > >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change > >> > >> > >velocity > > > > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX > >> > >> > >status. > > > > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can > >> > >> > >bootstrap > > > > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I > >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its > >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into > >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >> > >>Thoughts? > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > >> > >> > >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Tue Mar 14 03:21:12 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:21:12 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi Mike, This is almost the best I can do for Pipeline by lead source with Image Graph : It is because Image Graph has no feature for 3D Pie. On the other hand, I consider that 3D pie is not an accurate graphic because each value is represented by an area and 3D perception is wrong. I had also to develop a color_generator function which generates an array of colours based on an algorithm. It is because theme feature is not supported by Image Graph. It could be a good idea to implement this kind of function in themes, each theme having its own colours. Michel PS: I think I will release a first version of Charts.php soon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/6b57b51c/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 12516 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/6b57b51c/image001-0001.jpg From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 14 03:29:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:29:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 5.0 beta lockdown? In-Reply-To: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> References: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> Richie wrote: > Hello! > > We plan to release the Beta by the end of this month. > As I am running short of resources here, I would request some help. > Towards that end, I had a discussion with mmbrich and these are the salient > points that we discussed. Please feel free to pitch in your views. > > a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features That's good. Make sure you keep it up to date and if you make any changes to the lib, submit them upstream. > b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The > Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not > respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. > c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be > merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two > different beasts. This will require a full change in your work flow. Any meetings and communications done in your team will have to be done publicly so that your community deputies will be informed of things as they happen and why they happen. You'll need to make tickets for features, bugs etc. in trac and reference to them on your checkins so that a feature or bug fix that is spread over multiple checkins can be tracked easily. If you have deputies, they should be the only one making changes to their area of control. That means if Joe Bob developer is assigned the helpdesk module, even changes made by the core team should go through the deputy. > Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand > all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. > So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. This is very true. I think the easiest way to get there is to have your first deputies to be from the vtiger core team. Assign the various portions of the 5 source tree between your developers and have them send changes to each other and review each other's work. > > There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. > I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. It's up to you what versions you want to bundle with vtiger. Though using the newest version that works properly is probably the best way to go. So if vtiger 5 works with php5 and mysql5 use those. But if you can bundle php5.1 and vtiger 5 works well with it, then do that. > > To briefly mention our status over here :- > We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we > write, I will > be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that > the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. > As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to > integrate the > required UIs esp that of the Security module. What documentation system are you using? Mike From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 04:23:41 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:23:41 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> I always write queries like this: $query = << wrote: > Yeah breaking the queries up into multiple lines would be a huge help > when dealing with diff files and it improves readability (maybe we > should come up with a query formatting guide to standardize when to > break a line and how much to indent the next line) . > > I'm really busy today and maybe tomorrow but I can merge in a bunch of > changes after that. > > On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > I'll help. :) > > > > One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no > > more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines > > for better maintainability. > > > > Comments? > > > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > > > >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > > > > > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on > > >this one. > > > > > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of > > >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > > > > > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose > > >ends. > > > > > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with > > >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > > > > > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have > > >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > > >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of > > >Mike Fedyk > > >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM > > >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > > >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > > > > > >I like it. > > > > > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > > > > > >Mike > > > > > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, > > >>> > > >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > > >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > > >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>The original idea was to keep > > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that > > >> > > >> > > >it > > > > > > > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into > > >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > > >> > > >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug > > >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to > > >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production > > >>instance on mysql. > > >> > > >>I propose the following: > > >> > > >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from > > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start > > >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough > > >>assent, IMO. > > >> > > >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration > > >> > > >> > > >in > > > > > > > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to > > >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the > > >> > > >> > > >purity > > > > > > > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by > > >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change > > >> > > >> > > >velocity > > > > > > > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX > > >> > > >> > > >status. > > > > > > > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can > > >> > > >> > > >bootstrap > > > > > > > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I > > >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its > > >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into > > >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > > >> > > >>Thoughts? > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ From richie at vtiger.com Tue Mar 14 05:47:54 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:47:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 5.0 beta lockdown? In-Reply-To: <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> References: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <109f9034454.2909176754484923352.5784211372550577327@@vtiger.com> Hi! Thanks for the response. We currently use phpDocs for generating our API documentation. I will take your advice of having individual core members as deputies. We have already done that. Once the Beta is out, we will have a lot of bug-fixes coming in, at that time, it will be better to have some more deputies so that we are able to move faster and in sync. We will make the communication channels more open at that point in time. We intend to bundle php5 with mysql5 as of now. Richie ---- Mike Fedyk<mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote ---- Richie wrote: > Hello! > > We plan to release the Beta by the end of this month. > As I am running short of resources here, I would request some help. > Towards that end, I had a discussion with mmbrich and these are the salient > points that we discussed. Please feel free to pitch in your views. > > a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features That's good. Make sure you keep it up to date and if you make any changes to the lib, submit them upstream. > b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The > Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not > respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. > c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be > merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two > different beasts. This will require a full change in your work flow. Any meetings and communications done in your team will have to be done publicly so that your community deputies will be informed of things as they happen and why they happen. You'll need to make tickets for features, bugs etc. in trac and reference to them on your checkins so that a feature or bug fix that is spread over multiple checkins can be tracked easily. If you have deputies, they should be the only one making changes to their area of control. That means if Joe Bob developer is assigned the helpdesk module, even changes made by the core team should go through the deputy. > Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand > all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. > So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. This is very true. I think the easiest way to get there is to have your first deputies to be from the vtiger core team. Assign the various portions of the 5 source tree between your developers and have them send changes to each other and review each other's work. > > There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. > I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. It's up to you what versions you want to bundle with vtiger. Though using the newest version that works properly is probably the best way to go. So if vtiger 5 works with php5 and mysql5 use those. But if you can bundle php5.1 and vtiger 5 works well with it, then do that. > > To briefly mention our status over here :- > We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we > write, I will > be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that > the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. > As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to > integrate the > required UIs esp that of the Security module. What documentation system are you using? Mike _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/418b9aa9/attachment.html From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 14 06:24:55 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:24:55 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > I always write queries like this: > > $query = << select > * > from > table1, > table2, > where > foo = ? > and > zeta = ? > group by > tita > order by > zeta > END; I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest and most diff-friendly, by far. I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that to the style standard? $query = << Message-ID: <015601c64781$253e7000$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> I would like to suggest one small change to the proposed change. I implemented the change Luis mentions verbatim several weeks ago, but it would insert the literal 'null' into ALL blank fields. I would recommend the following instead which adds a small check to see if the field is likely a foreign key. This is the code I submitted in the patch for quotes (tic 51). It appears Sales Orders has the same basic problem, so the fix should work here as well. > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; >> $match = stristr($fieldname,'id'); // adding this to try and set only foreign keys. we dont want ALL blank values set to null >> if(empty($value) && $match != '0') >> { >> $value = 'null'; >> } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } Andy Rodes arodes at onweald.com -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fedyk Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:00 PM To: Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! Great! I'll add this to my list of patches to review. Mike Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > Well, if some body have problem with save sales orders trough qoute > module, i solve it do it: > > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > // New Lines HERE > if(empty($value)) > { > $value = 'null'; > } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 08:53:36 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:53:36 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> I usually write queries in a slightly more compact format: $query = "SELECT FROM INNER JOIN ON WHERE AND GROUP BY ORDER BY "; The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > I always write queries like this: > > > > $query = << > select > > * > > from > > table1, > > table2, > > where > > foo = ? > > and > > zeta = ? > > group by > > tita > > order by > > zeta > > END; > > I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest > and most diff-friendly, by far. > > I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that > to the style standard? > > $query = << SELECT > * > FROM > table1, > table2, > WHERE > foo = ? > AND > zeta = ? > GROUP BY > tita > ORDER BY > zeta > END; > > +1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. > > Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and > each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin > message > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. 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If we had a monthly check-in, where all branches were brought together, release or no-release, it would allow for some of this code beautifying we're talking about as well as testing and keeping everything current so that we don't get stagnant branches. Thoughts? - Joel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nightly would be a bit frequent, but perhaps weekly or monthly. It would open the window for any testers out there to start writing automated tests for the app and put some rigor around our quality. I think in the long term it could help make Mike F's work easier and keep us moving forward more cohesively. > >If we had a monthly check-in, where all branches were brought together, release or no-release, it would allow for some of this code beautifying we're talking about as well as testing and keeping everything current so that we don't get stagnant branches. > >Thoughts? > >- Joel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 14 11:09:55 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:09:55 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/3775 This changeset shows the format I typically use. It puts major keywords at the beginning of the line and only uses indenting where it is needed -- typically when the parts related to the keyword are long. $query = "SELECT > FROM > INNER JOIN > ON > WHERE > AND > GROUP BY > ORDER BY "; > >The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely >a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in >one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't >wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. > >On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > >>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >>>I always write queries like this: >>> >>>$query = <<>> select >>> * >>> from >>> table1, >>> table2, >>> where >>> foo = ? >>> and >>> zeta = ? >>> group by >>> tita >>> order by >>> zeta >>>END; >>> >>> >>I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest >>and most diff-friendly, by far. >> >>I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that >>to the style standard? >> >> $query = <<> SELECT >> * >> FROM >> table1, >> table2, >> WHERE >> foo = ? >> AND >> zeta = ? >> GROUP BY >> tita >> ORDER BY >> zeta >> END; >> >>+1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. >> >>Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and >>each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin >>message >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From nolan at peaceworks.ca Tue Mar 14 15:57:43 2006 From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:57:43 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <44175877.70505@peaceworks.ca> My $.02... - YES YES YES to standardizing SQL queries! - capitalized keywords good! This alone makes a big difference! Yes to making this a part of the standard! - I generally do what Allan does, except I put SELECT FROM WHERE GROUP HAVING ORDER all at the same indentation - Indents identical to Allan's for INNER JOIN, ANDs/ORs for logical clauses - ...but so long as it's clear, I'm happy ...so the code beautifier doesn't do SQL? Mike Fedyk wrote: > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/3775 > > This changeset shows the format I typically use. It puts major keywords > at the beginning of the line and only uses indenting where it is needed > -- typically when the parts related to the keyword are long. > > $query = "SELECT >> FROM >> INNER JOIN >> ON >> WHERE >> AND >> GROUP BY >> ORDER BY "; >> >>The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely >>a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in >>one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't >>wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. >> >>On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >> >> >> >>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I always write queries like this: >>>> >>>>$query = <<>>> select >>>> * >>>> from >>>> table1, >>>> table2, >>>> where >>>> foo = ? >>>> and >>>> zeta = ? >>>> group by >>>> tita >>>> order by >>>> zeta >>>>END; >>>> >>>> >>> >>>I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest >>>and most diff-friendly, by far. >>> >>>I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that >>>to the style standard? >>> >>>$query = <<>> SELECT >>> * >>> FROM >>> table1, >>> table2, >>> WHERE >>> foo = ? >>> AND >>> zeta = ? >>> GROUP BY >>> tita >>> ORDER BY >>> zeta >>>END; >>> >>>+1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. >>> >>>Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and >>>each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin >>>message >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Wed Mar 15 08:32:28 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:32:28 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 2006 SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards Nominations Message-ID: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> Vote, vote, vote !!! http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards5.php http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php http://sourceforge.net/awards/cca/ Aissa From larenas at internext.com.mx Wed Mar 15 03:16:31 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:16:31 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] A toda la comunidad Latina que participe en esta lista. Message-ID: <4417F78F.6090103@internext.com.mx> Hola: Los invito a ponerse en conctacto con migo para que discutamos problemas sobre el Vtiger en nuestro idioma. Gracias. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 15 12:44:10 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:44:10 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 2006 SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards Nominations In-Reply-To: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> References: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> Message-ID: <44187C9A.3070707@mikefedyk.com> Abos wrote: >Vote, vote, vote !!! >http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards5.php >http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php >http://sourceforge.net/awards/cca/ > > Voted. Alright Compiere, Java OSS Roc kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 5562 (jre50). OK, that's enough of that. ;) Go vTigerCRM! Or as jeff puts it: go vtigercrm ;) Mike From libregeek at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 00:22:08 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:52:08 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Documents for Vtiger Message-ID: <2315046d0603170022t50d012afp@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, Is there any developer documents for vtiger? I visited http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Vtiger_CRM_-_Developer_Guide , but seems that the document is empty. I wish to develop a module/extension for HR Mangement in vtigercrm. Kindly provide the documents or any resource regarding the above. regards Manilal From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Fri Mar 17 04:13:15 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:13:15 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Image Graph Message-ID: Hi all, Here joined a dashboard generated with image graph. Some details are to be tuned (dynamic ticks interval, bar width, .). I will post the source for Charts.php with some explanation before tonight (French time). Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060317/12a34f42/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DashboardImageGraph.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 251891 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060317/12a34f42/DashboardImageGraph-0001.jpg From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Fri Mar 17 08:29:42 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:29:42 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Image Graph Message-ID: As announced the files needed to test Vtigercrm-4.2.4.rc2 - Image_Graph implementation. Installation : 1. Install Pear package if it is not already done 2. Install Image_Graph package with all its dependencies : Pear install -a Image_Graph-0.7.2 3. Override Charts.php in your vtigercrm/potentials folder (be sure to have a backup copy) 4. Apply the patches on Dashboard module files to suppress the test on php version. Things to do : 1. Compute the ticks interval according to the maximum axis value. 2. Try to dispose ticks on category axis as they where with jpgraph (if really needed). 3. Implement and beautify the colour generator algorithm (very basic actually). 4. Make it dependent on current theme (if everybody agree). 5. Test font-language implementation (I do not try it for Chinese or Czech). Comments : 1. In Charts.php I have only commented the replaced line. I know it is not "beautiful" (ref. Allan hobby) but it is for others to understand the changes. The lines will have to be suppressed in the official version. 2. If somebody looks at Image Graph examples, he will probably notice that graph layout uses the following syntax : $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title = Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',11)), Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea = Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'), $footer = Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)), 90 ), 5 ) or $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',11)), Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea =& Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'), $footer =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)), 90 ), 5 ) It works nice in a test program called directly but it doesn't in Charts.php. I have not found the explanation. The correct one is : $title =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',10)); $plotarea =& Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'); $footer =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)); $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title, Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea, $footer, 90 ), 5 ) 3. 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Mike From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sun Mar 19 03:40:09 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:40:09 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Message-ID: The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!). See ticket : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Richie ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved :   3         When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!).   See ticket :   http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65   Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would like to have the mysql5 integration properly done before integrating PHP5 into the current vtiger crm5 builds.Once we do have PHP5 integrated, we will start fixing all these issues. ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved :   3         When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!).   See ticket :   http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65   Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060319/4d0049e5/attachment-0001.htm From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 02:29:02 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:29:02 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a16820983.1412508798428817900.-5004035387256997844%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: Hi Richie, Thanks to appreciate what I have done. There is no problem for me to work on version 5, I have already installed twice Alpha 2, one is running on classic install (PHP 4 + MySQL 4), the other one for debugging purpose with PHP 5 and MySQL 5.1. I have fixed installation process but have still a problem to solve with login. I am working on a larger project on CRM which requires integration of a Sync module (with ERP) and a Workflow module, but I think I can also work on charts. I am rather new on PHP (I am more fluent with Delphi and MsSQL) so I use this dev to learn more. Let me know how I can participate, do you have defined the outputs? Regards Michel _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:15 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Hi Michel! We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. I like what you have done. I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing to work on it please? You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working with ImageMaps. Thanks, Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/7181643d/attachment.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 02:33:03 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:33:03 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a16840ad7.3864398727635444731.2037062845435905282%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: I know that and version 4.2.4rc2 is running with zend compatibility mode of PHP4. The problem I discuss here is linked to ADODB qstr function called by PearDatabase : function quote($string){ return ADOConnection::qstr($string); } Qstr function has several calls to $this->function, the use of $this is not allowed outside object context, so you get an error when you call : PearDatabase::quote($string); I changed it to $adb->quote($string); And it seems to work on all the functions I have tested, but I am not sure it is a good practice. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:18 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility PHP5 has a very different array handling behaviour. It passes arrays by reference. So, there will be major impacts in the code. Please do refer to my posts about cloning in the vtiger forums. I would like to have the mysql5 integration properly done before integrating PHP5 into the current vtiger crm5 builds.Once we do have PHP5 integrated, we will start fixing all these issues. ---- Michel JACQUEMES wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!). See ticket : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/4ca43431/attachment.htm From werk at r2g.nl Mon Mar 20 05:08:36 2006 From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:08:36 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database Message-ID: Hi All, As newbe user of vtigercrm and starting programmer, I have been reading the forums and mailingslist archive. As vtigercrm grows, we all would like to see an easier structure to maintain, for example of the db. I have implemented vtigercrm on my isp with ssl for my own business ( I run a smal firm for system administrator ) and have done also on a Novell SBS for several of my clients. Looking at the tablestructure of vtigercrm we have 192 tables total! I wonder if prefix tables could be meaningfull, thinking of several possibilities: - If someone wants or must use only one database with several applications, say joomla cms and vtigercrm at an isp. - more seperation of db: on a 'per module' bases - another seperation of db: add-on/plugins with there own prefix - better version control of db, different prefix per version. >From above I suggest: .vti_ as default .vti_a_ for addon .vti_p_ for plugin .vti_{modulename}_ for module or with version control: .vti_424_ .vti_424_a .vti_424_p .vti_424_{modulename}_ It would also eas the use of future migration scripts as migration could be done in several layers. Best Regards, Remco Gerbrands From saint at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 06:29:02 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:59:02 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion Message-ID: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Folks.. Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all your inputs. For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) thanks, Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/bb8a6474/attachment.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 20 07:06:45 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:06:45 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > Author: allanbush > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > New Revision: 4323 > > Log: > Added dummy sequence requests. > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > References ticket:17. > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > else > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, but if > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of tables that need it in the source? From sergiokessler at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 07:14:09 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:14:09 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> References: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> richie, do you (or anyone) have a url for this imageMaps code ? (my google search failed) On 3/20/06, Richie wrote: > Hi Michel! > > We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. > I like what you have done. > > I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing > to work on it please? > > You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working > with ImageMaps. > > Thanks, > Richie > > > > > ---- Michel JACQUEMES wrote ---- > > > > > The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : > > > > 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : > Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in > c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on > line 2380 > I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time > to investigate (help is welcome!). > > > > See ticket : > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 > > > > Michel > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From richie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 07:17:48 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:17:48 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10a183bba27.5706286486276782748.1632333412769303144@@vtiger.com> Hello Michel! Thanks for the response. I would very much like to see the changes that you have done on Alpha2 with the ImageGraphs. I would like you to handle the Dashboards part for vtiger CRM 5. I can give you checkin access to that module and you can make the changes and update the svn repository. We will test from here and get back to you with the results. That way, we can spot any issues early. Let me know if that is okay. ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- Hi Richie,   Thanks to appreciate what I have done.   There is no problem for me to work on version 5, I have already installed twice Alpha 2, one is running on classic install (PHP 4 + MySQL 4), the other one for debugging purpose with PHP 5 and MySQL 5.1. I have fixed installation process but have still a problem to solve with login.   I am working on a larger project on CRM which requires integration of a Sync module (with ERP) and a Workflow module, but I think I can also work on charts. I am rather new on PHP (I am more fluent with Delphi and MsSQL) so I use this dev to learn more.   Let me know how I can participate, do you have defined the outputs?   Regards   Michel   De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:15 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility   Hi Michel! We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. I like what you have done. I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing to work on it please? You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working with ImageMaps. Thanks, Richie _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/419598c5/attachment.htm From richie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 07:25:26 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:25:26 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> References: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867@@vtiger.com> My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. Richie ---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ---- richie, do you (or anyone) have a url for this imageMaps code ? (my google search failed) On 3/20/06, Richie <richie at vtiger.com> wrote: > Hi Michel! > > We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. > I like what you have done. > > I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing > to work on it please? > > You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working > with ImageMaps. > > Thanks, > Richie > > > > > ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- > > > > > The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : > > > > 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : > Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in > c:\Inetpub\http://wwwrootvtigercrm-graphadodbadodb.inc.php on > line 2380 > I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time > to investigate (help is welcome!). > > > > See ticket : > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 > > > > Michel > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/df20d2b4/attachment-0001.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 09:43:19 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:43:19 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a183bba27.5706286486276782748.1632333412769303144%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: Hello Richie, I have not worked on Alpha2-Image_Graph but I am going to have a look. I was trying to test Alpha2 with MySql 5 but I have some problems with it. I forgot to mention that Image_Graph is actually a Beta version but it works fine. For the Dashboard, it is Ok for me. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:18 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Hello Michel! Thanks for the response. I would very much like to see the changes that you have done on Alpha2 with the ImageGraphs. I would like you to handle the Dashboards part for vtiger CRM 5. I can give you checkin access to that module and you can make the changes and update the svn repository. We will test from here and get back to you with the results. That way, we can spot any issues early. Let me know if that is okay. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/a5f844de/attachment.htm From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 09:37:06 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:37:06 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: You can find it here : http://pear.php.net/packages.php?catpid=12 &catname=Images Package Image_Canvas is required. You can also find very useful informations at : http://pear.veggerby.dk/ If you want to download it, you have first to install Pear. Follow the doc, it is easy. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:25 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/da38b93f/attachment.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 10:09:18 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:09:18 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, I don't understand the purpose of this. As far as it is installation, it is batch. So if there is a failure, simply drop the schema, create it and run again. Use of transaction during this step is not very important. If it is an upgrade, ask people to backup their base or do it by program. On the other hand, if the target is to implement Mysql 5 or Postgres, they support transactions. In that case I think something like : $db->StartTrans(); ... INSERT INTO $masterTable (id, field1,..) VALUES (DEFAULT,$val1,...) $masterID = $db->Insert_ID(); ... INSERT INTO $dependingTable (...,master_id,..) VALUES (...,$masterID,...) $ok = $db->CompleteTrans(); Is better Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk > Envoy??: lundi 20 mars 2006 16:07 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com; vtigercrm- > commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] > r4323 - > /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.p > hp > > vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > > Author: allanbush > > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > New Revision: 4323 > > > > Log: > > Added dummy sequence requests. > > > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it > during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after > the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in > the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > > > References ticket:17. > > > > Modified: > > > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p > > > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p > > > ========================================================================== > ==== > > --- > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p (original) > > +++ > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > > else > > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, > but if > > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); > Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of > tables that need it in the source? > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 10:51:39 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:51:39 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> References: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603201051l348995cdvf480911f46fb441a@mail.gmail.com> Not that I can see, any string could be used for the sequence it's totally up to the program code. I got this list by grepping trough the source and someone could create another simply by adding the line $id = $adb->getUniqueID("foo"); anywhere which would be pretty hard to detect. I'm open to ideas if someone else has any suggestions. On 3/20/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > > Author: allanbush > > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > New Revision: 4323 > > > > Log: > > Added dummy sequence requests. > > > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > > > References ticket:17. > > > > Modified: > > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > ============================================================================== > > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php (original) > > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > > else > > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, but if > > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); > Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of > tables that need it in the source? > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 12:03:29 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:03:29 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed Message-ID: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. If you want to help you'll need to check the postgres branch code out of SVN: svn co http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration then run through the installation process exactly like you would for a mysql installation. If you have both mysql and pgsql support in your php module then you'll have to select which you wish to use, if not it should be done for you automatically. Make sure to select the correct port for you database host it's probably localhost:5432 for most setups. In the default setup I've tweaked adodb to output to the browser any database errors encountered along with a backtrace of how the query was called. Because of this you'll notice a bunch of output about missing sequences during the table population process of the installation, these errors can be safely ignored as adodb automatically corrects them. What is needed is for testers to play around with this and find more database errors. If you encounter a problem the adodb debugging routine should output an error message to your browser page. Simply copy the error message (including the query and the backtrace) and file a bug added a short description of what you were trying to do at the time. I'm not sure what the best way to track these bugs is, ideally each one would be filed as a ticket in trac which blocks ticket #17, but I don't think trac supports meta bugs. Unfortunately I'm leaving town today and will be unavailable until Saturday but if people can help collect bug reports I'll get them fixed next weekend or some other developer may be able to fix some of them during the week. Thanks for all your help, Allan From justoff at hotmail.ru Tue Mar 21 01:33:27 2006 From: justoff at hotmail.ru (=?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz8jB?=) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:33:27 +0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-ready AlphabeticalSearch(); Message-ID: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> Hi all! Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. Improvements: 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) encoding. Or to use multiletter links. P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and criticism:) are welcome. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: include_utils.php.diff Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1097 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/0a4915b4/include_utils.php.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from > all your inputs. > > For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page > (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and > contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what > you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts > about home page too. :-) > > > thanks, > Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/a469be1d/attachment.htm From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 04:08:53 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:08:53 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com> how will this be integrated in the final release ? because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to execute command line commands to install stuff... I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible (because of restrictions on server) I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to put pear files there (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to take this files) btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! does image_graph output to SVG ? On 3/20/06, Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > > > > You can find it here : > > > > http://pear.php.net/packages.php?catpid=12&catname=Images > > > > Package Image_Canvas is required. > > > > You can also find very useful informations at : > > > > http://pear.veggerby.dk/ > > > > If you want to download it, you have first to install Pear. Follow the doc, > it is easy. > > > > > ________________________________ > > > De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] > De la part de Richie > > Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:25 > ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > > Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility > > > > > > > > My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working > with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the > posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the > forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. > > Richie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 04:14:18 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:14:18 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion In-Reply-To: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> References: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603210414h31cbdbt44c726b069250bcb@mail.gmail.com> saint, I can tell you what I *don't* want to see, but you already know that... ;-) /sak On 3/20/06, Saint wrote: > Folks.. > > Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home > page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all > your inputs. > > For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like > Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be > shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and > more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) > > > thanks, > Saint > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 06:43:25 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:43:25 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services Message-ID: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it only returns true or false... Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? for example... method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', 1); without any kind of authentication ... IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password each time one method is call. Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/62e30301/attachment.html From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 10:35:03 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:35:03 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How To: merge changesets between branches Message-ID: I just merged our first change on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. Merging changes between branches: a) keeps the diff down for when you're ready to merge a branch back the other way (retiring the branch). b) is better than manually modifying your working copy to imitate a changeset and committing. It seems that this is the first use of the svn merge command in our fledgling repository, so I'll document how to do working-copy merges here for the benefit of others. We have a lot of merging to do between vtigercrm/branches/4.2 and vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1! (server side merges (between two rev-ranged URLS) are the ultimate for changeset-preserving history, but we can ease into that at some future date) The end result of the following steps is a tidy changeset with links to various items in trac: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4381 Step 1: Find the changeset you want to merge, on the trunk/branch it occurs: svn diff -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php =================================================================== --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4357) +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4358) @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ { $has_header = 1; } -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ { $datarows = $xrows; } -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; else $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; else $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; - -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; else $START = $_SESSION['startval']; -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; else $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; Step 2: merge the changeset (revision range + URL) to your working copy: $ svn merge -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 U modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Step 3: diff your working copy with merged changes to the repository URL $ svn diff modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php =================================================================== --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4380) +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (working copy) @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ { $has_header = 1; } -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ { $datarows = $xrows; } -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; else $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; else $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; - -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; else $START = $_SESSION['startval']; -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; else $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; Step 4: commit your working copy with merged changes, including a commit message that references/closes any applicable trac tickets. $ svn commit -m 'refs #62 and #17. merging changeset r4358 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration' modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Sending modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Transmitting file data . Committed revision 4381. From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 10:48:24 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:48:24 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Allan Bush wrote: > Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the > installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, > now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger. I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in postgresql). From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 21 12:30:09 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:30:09 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed In-Reply-To: References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com> Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > Allan Bush wrote: > >> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the >> installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, >> now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. >> > > Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an > install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't > noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful > contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger. > > I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in > postgresql). Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance. Mike From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Tue Mar 21 21:06:29 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:06:29 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have not checked Pear template dependencies. What do you mean by SVG? > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler > Envoy??: mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility > > how will this be integrated in the final release ? > > because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to > execute command line commands to install stuff... > I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will > find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible > (because of restrictions on server) > > I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to > put pear files there > (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to > take this files) > > btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! > does image_graph output to SVG ? > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 21 23:41:02 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:41:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How To: merge changesets between branches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4420FF8E.9040606@mikefedyk.com> Hi Jeff, Is is possible that you could be the branch merge maintainer? I've read through the first half of the svn book, but you have experience here that is quite valuable and will be an example for everyone to learn from also. Most any request that eases merging 4.2 <-> 5.0 will be followed (like possibly splitting utils.php in 4.2.x like I have heard it is in 5.0) as long as a consensus is reached. What do you say? Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > I just merged our first change on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. Merging changes between > branches: > > a) keeps the diff down for when you're ready to merge a branch back the > other way (retiring the branch). > > b) is better than manually modifying your working copy to imitate a > changeset and committing. > > It seems that this is the first use of the svn merge command in our > fledgling repository, so I'll document how to do working-copy merges here > for the benefit of others. We have a lot of merging to do between > vtigercrm/branches/4.2 and vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1! > > (server side merges (between two rev-ranged URLS) are the ultimate for > changeset-preserving history, but we can ease into that at some future > date) > > The end result of the following steps is a tidy changeset with links to > various items in trac: > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4381 > > > Step 1: Find the changeset you want to merge, on the trunk/branch it occurs: > > svn diff -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 > Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > =================================================================== > --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4357) > +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4358) > @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ > { > $has_header = 1; > } > -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; > > if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') > @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ > { > $datarows = $xrows; > } > -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; > else > $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; > > -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; > else > $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); > > -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; > - > -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; > else > $START = $_SESSION['startval']; > -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; > else > $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; > > > Step 2: merge the changeset (revision range + URL) to your working copy: > > $ svn merge -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 > U modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > > > Step 3: diff your working copy with merged changes to the repository URL > > $ svn diff modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > =================================================================== > --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4380) > +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (working copy) > @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ > { > $has_header = 1; > } > -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; > > if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') > @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ > { > $datarows = $xrows; > } > -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; > else > $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; > > -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; > else > $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); > > -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; > - > -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; > else > $START = $_SESSION['startval']; > -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; > else > $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; > > > Step 4: commit your working copy with merged changes, including a commit > message that references/closes any applicable trac tickets. > > $ svn commit -m 'refs #62 and #17. merging changeset r4358 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration' modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Sending modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Transmitting file data . > Committed revision 4381. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 21 23:53:20 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:53:20 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44210270.2010004@mikefedyk.com> We'll keep it in the source and keep it up to date just like all of our other php based dependencies. A script that removes the external dependencies and replaces them at packaging time (debian, gentoo, Lin/Win bin, etc.) would be a great help. And any patches that clean up referencing the location of external dependencies will be accepted. Anyone interested in writing that script? Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some > work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend > package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have > not checked Pear template dependencies. > > What do you mean by SVG? > > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler >> Envoy? : mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09 >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility >> >> how will this be integrated in the final release ? >> >> because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to >> execute command line commands to install stuff... >> I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will >> find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible >> (because of restrictions on server) >> >> I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to >> put pear files there >> (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to >> take this files) >> >> btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! >> does image_graph output to SVG ? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 00:01:30 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:01:30 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4421045A.50107@mikefedyk.com> A lot of those tables store many-many relationships between various modules. Which module owns a table when it references to more than one module? I've thought about this before but that really killed the idea for me. If a solution or policy can be made that solves it, then it looks much more interesting. Also I absolutely do not like storing version numbers in table or db names. The migration from 4.2.[0123] should be able to be done by testing for some unique structure that is not in that version and changing it to the current version. Also adodb's data dictionary functions may be able to do this for us. I just want to make sure it does it in a lossless fashion. Mike Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote: > Hi All, > > As newbe user of vtigercrm and starting programmer, I have been reading the > forums and mailingslist archive. As vtigercrm grows, we all would like to > see an easier structure to maintain, for example of the db. > I have implemented vtigercrm on my isp with ssl for my own business ( I run > a smal firm for system administrator ) and have done also on a Novell SBS > for several of my clients. > > Looking at the tablestructure of vtigercrm we have 192 tables total! > I wonder if prefix tables could be meaningfull, thinking of several > possibilities: > - If someone wants or must use only one database with several applications, > say joomla cms and vtigercrm at an isp. > - more seperation of db: on a 'per module' bases > - another seperation of db: add-on/plugins with there own prefix > - better version control of db, different prefix per version. > > >From above I suggest: > .vti_ as default > .vti_a_ for addon > .vti_p_ for plugin > .vti_{modulename}_ for module > > or with version control: > .vti_424_ > .vti_424_a > .vti_424_p > .vti_424_{modulename}_ > > > It would also eas the use of future migration scripts as migration could be > done in several layers. > > Best Regards, > > Remco Gerbrands > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 00:07:24 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:07:24 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-ready AlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> References: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> Message-ID: <442105BC.7080507@mikefedyk.com> Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce the output it would be even better. I'll take it either way though. Mike ?????? wrote: > Hi all! > > Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. > > Improvements: > 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php file and > can be easily localized or even freely modified. > 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or multicharacter) > values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) encoding. Or to use multiletter links. > > P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and > criticism:) are welcome. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 00:11:52 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:11:52 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). Joao Oliveira wrote: > Hello all, > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > only returns true or false... > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > for example... > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > each time one method is call. > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From justoff at hotmail.ru Wed Mar 22 03:44:00 2006 From: justoff at hotmail.ru (Anthony V. Scray) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:44:00 +0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-readyAlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <442105BC.7080507@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> > Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? Yes. Here is "unified" version. ("context" value for diff -u is 3) Previous version I made with wiki guide http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/HowToGeneratePatchWithWinMerge. > The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce > the output it would be even better. Currently I'am not familiar with template engine :( Maybe later.. >I'll take it either way though. Thanks. > > Mike > > ?????? wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. > > > > Improvements: > > 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php > > file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. > > 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or > > multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) > encoding. Or to use multiletter links. > > > > P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and > > criticism:) are welcome. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still > scribbling > > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? > Try the AJAX > > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still > scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your > hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho > Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: include_utils.php.diff Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1706 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/d0c693f9/include_utils.php.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I thought that it was possible to define there some custom server global variables, but it isn't. Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/22/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done > quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so > upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). > > Joao Oliveira wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > > only returns true or false... > > > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > > > for example... > > > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > > each time one method is call. > > > > Best Regards > > Jo?o Oliveira. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/74601a37/attachment.htm From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Wed Mar 22 05:01:09 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:01:09 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion In-Reply-To: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <00ac01c64db0$b1537f60$2201a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hello Saint, I would suggest adding sample standard roles, of which the common function of each role will have preset views (customizable per user). Key lesson is to provide only what information is needed and nothing more. Everything should fit in an 800 x 600 screen without scrolling vertically or horizontally. Here are my suggestions: Salesforce Staffing Sales Manager Homepage Front page will provide a summary of the team he manages, with individual drill-down capabilities to product/Sales Executive. Summary would include new leads/tasks/contacts obtained today, pending leads/tasks/contacts obtained by his team. "Message to the team" function with edit/display on all members homepage in his team. "Progress vs Target" statistics and/or charts for the month/quarter/year Sales Executive Homepage Front page will provide a summary of his new leads, pending leads, follow up cases and (if possible) reminders to contact clients who have not been contacted for x number of days/weeks/months based on eg. Last sale/quote date (workflow related) IF ENABLED, sales executive will be able to compare his performance with the others in the team he is in "Message to the team" function for "online" Sales Manager updates Management General Manager Homepage Front page will provide a summary of the entire company, with individual drill-down capabilities to product/sales team manager/Sales Executive. Statistics for total leads/task/contacts for individual teams and as an entire company, with charts to show daily/weekly/monthly/quarterly performance on the various factors. Summary of all aging/hottest products/etc and other custom analytics that are relevant to management and strategic planning. This is what I can think up of so far, will ask my team for feedback on the v5.0 UI and pass it along. _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Saint Sent: 20 March 2006 21:29 To: LANCER : Developers List Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion Folks.. Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all your inputs. For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) thanks, Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and then there was talk about svn. I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a repository somewhere? Thanks for the help, JLee -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 230 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/3dc9b8ac/jlee-0001.vcf From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Wed Mar 22 12:33:45 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:33:45 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Vote vote vote !!! Message-ID: <4421B4A9.1050008@vtigercrmfrance.org> vtiger is in final phase* Financial Projects* : http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php Make noise ! Vote vote vote!!!! From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 13:20:03 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:20:03 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. Josh Lee wrote: > Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. > > I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by one > of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is going over > the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import and export > will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export what he/she > would not normally have read access to. > > Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the one > on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and > then there was talk about svn. > > I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still > using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one > that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files > included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a > repository somewhere? > Thanks for the help, > JLee > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From jlee at zertis.net Wed Mar 22 13:39:24 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:39:24 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account there? Mike Fedyk wrote: >Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. > >Josh Lee wrote: > > >>Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >> >>I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by one >>of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is going over >>the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import and export >>will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export what he/she >>would not normally have read access to. >> >>Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the one >>on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and >>then there was talk about svn. >> >>I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a >>repository somewhere? >>Thanks for the help, >>JLee >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 219 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/4ab240b1/jlee.vcf From jlee at zertis.net Wed Mar 22 14:01:19 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:01:19 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421C92F.7040405@zertis.net> Ok, so where is the new svn Repository at, and how do I access it? Josh Lee wrote: > Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't > work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account > there? > > > Mike Fedyk wrote: > >> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. >> >> Josh Lee wrote: >> >> >>> Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >>> >>> I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by >>> one of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is >>> going over the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import >>> and export will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export >>> what he/she would not normally have read access to. >>> >>> Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the >>> one on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, >>> and then there was talk about svn. >>> >>> I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>> using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>> that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>> included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of >>> a repository somewhere? >>> Thanks for the help, >>> JLee >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >>> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >>> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> > > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Does someone need to set me up an account >> there? >> >> >> Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >>> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. >>> >>> Josh Lee wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >>>> >>>> I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by >>>> one of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is >>>> going over the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import >>>> and export will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export >>>> what he/she would not normally have read access to. >>>> >>>> Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the >>>> one on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, >>>> and then there was talk about svn. >>>> >>>> I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>>> using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>>> that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>>> included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of >>>> a repository somewhere? >>>> Thanks for the help, >>>> JLee >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >>>> scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your >>>> hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho >>>> Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >>> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >>> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From vtiger at leev.net Wed Mar 22 15:03:56 2006 From: vtiger at leev.net (Lee Valentine) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:03:56 +1000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> Hi, To implement authentication into SOAP services, the servers can be placed in a director such as soap/ and place htaccess authentication in the directory. The soap client provides a function to authenticate: $client = new soapclient( 'http://server.com/crm/soap/server.php', ... ); $client->setCredentials('username', 'password'); .htaccess: AuthName "SOAP" AuthType Basic AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd Require valid-user Another method to use would be to place the code below at the top of the soap server and place the username/password in variables in the config. This method has prerequisites: "The $PHP_AUTH_USER, $PHP_AUTH_PW and $PHP_AUTH_TYPE global variables are only available when PHP is installed as a module. If you're using the CGI version of PHP, you will be limited to Web server-based authentication or other custom types of authentication (such as using HTML forms) to match passwords in a database." config: $soap_username = 'username'; $soap_password = 'password'; soap/server.php: if ( ( !isset( $PHP_AUTH_USER )) || (!isset($PHP_AUTH_PW)) || ( $PHP_AUTH_USER != $soap_username ) || ( $PHP_AUTH_PW != $soap_password ) ) { header( 'WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm="SOAP"' ); header( 'HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized' ); echo 'Authorization Required.'; exit; } I have implemented the first method and it works fine. Thanks, Lee On Mar 22 12:06, Joao Oliveira wrote: > Hello Mike. > > Thanks for the ansewer. > > I'm doing some search to evaluate how hard is to implement a session > mechanism in SOAP services in PHP. > > I'll post my results. > > In mean time, if someone has suggestions, please do post them. > > And about my sugestion regarding $_SERVER[], forget it. I thought that it > was possible to define there some custom server global variables, but it > isn't. > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira > > On 3/22/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > > How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done > > quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so > > upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). > > > > Joao Oliveira wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > > > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > > > only returns true or false... > > > > > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > > > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > > > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > > > > > for example... > > > > > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > > > > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > > > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > > > > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > > > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > > > each time one method is call. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Jo?o Oliveira. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 18:31:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:31:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> Message-ID: <4422087F.3050801@mikefedyk.com> Lee Valentine wrote: > Hi, > > To implement authentication into SOAP services, the servers can be placed in a director such as soap/ and place > htaccess authentication in the directory. The soap client provides a function to authenticate: > > $client = new soapclient( 'http://server.com/crm/soap/server.php', ... ); > $client->setCredentials('username', 'password'); > > .htaccess: > AuthName "SOAP" > AuthType Basic > AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd > Require valid-user > > Another method to use would be to place the code below at the top of the soap server and place the > username/password in variables in the config. This method has prerequisites: > > "The $PHP_AUTH_USER, $PHP_AUTH_PW and $PHP_AUTH_TYPE global variables are only available when PHP is installed as a > module. If you're using the CGI version of PHP, you will be limited to Web server-based authentication or other custom > types of authentication (such as using HTML forms) to match passwords in a database." I really don't want vtiger to authenticate against the web server, or a htpasswd file. We should authenticate SOAP against the vtiger users stored in the vtiger database, though this may be an interim solution. Can you ready a patch that takes care of the first option? It's better than what we have now.. Also I don't want to do anything that causes vtiger to depend on mod_php. I will have my test server running php over fastcgi via suexec soon in my development environment as this seems to be the only sane way to securely run a php web server. Mike From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 19:23:38 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:23:38 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-readyAlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> References: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> Message-ID: <442214BA.7080905@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4397 Next time, please create a new ticket and attach your patch there. Thanks for the patch. Mike Anthony V. Scray wrote: >> Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? >> > Yes. Here is "unified" version. ("context" value for diff -u is 3) > > Previous version I made with wiki guide > http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/HowToGeneratePatchWithWinMerge. > > >> The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce >> the output it would be even better. >> > Currently I'am not familiar with template engine :( Maybe later.. > > >> I'll take it either way though. >> > Thanks. > > >> Mike >> >> ?????? wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> >>> Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. >>> >>> Improvements: >>> 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php >>> file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. >>> 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or >>> multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) >>> >> encoding. Or to use multiletter links. >> >>> P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and >>> criticism:) are welcome. >>> >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> -- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >>> >> scribbling >> >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? >>> >> Try the AJAX >> >>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >> scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your >> hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho >> Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 20:52:10 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:52:10 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4398 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: data/CRMEntity.php modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php schema/DatabaseSchema.xml In-Reply-To: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <4422297A.90309@mikefedyk.com> Jeff, is there a way I can cherry pick parts of changesets from a branch with the svn merge command? vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > Author: mfedyk > Date: Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > New Revision: 4398 > > Log: > merge the non-postgres specific changes from 4.2_postgresql_integration. refs #17 and #62 > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -272,7 +272,7 @@ > } > > //This check is done for products. > - if($module == 'Products' || $module == 'Notes' || $module =='Faq') > + if($module == 'Products' || $module == 'Notes' || $module =='Faq' || $module == 'PriceBook' || $module == 'Vendor' || $module == 'Emails') > { > $vtlog->logthis("module is =".$module,'info'); > $ownerid = $current_user->id; > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -15,8 +15,9 @@ > //if($_REQUEST['module']=='Users') > // $sql = "insert into salesmanactivityrel values (". $_REQUEST["entityid"] .",".$_REQUEST["parid"] .")"; > //else > +if($_REQUEST['module']=='Potentials') > $sql = "insert into contpotentialrel values (". $_REQUEST["entityid"] .",".$_REQUEST["parid"] .")"; > -$adb->query($sql); > +else > $sql = "insert into seproductsrel values (". $_REQUEST["parid"] .",".$_REQUEST["entityid"] .")"; > $adb->query($sql); > header("Location: index.php?action=DetailView&module=Potentials&record=".$_REQUEST["parid"]); > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -571,6 +571,7 @@ > global $adb; > $sqldelete = "delete from activitygrouprelation where activityid=".$activityid; > $adb->query($sqldelete); > + if($groupname == '') return; > $sql = "insert into activitygrouprelation values (".$activityid .",'" .$groupname ."')"; > $adb->query($sql); > > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -160,7 +160,7 @@ > Type=InnoDB > modifiedby > > - > + > tabid > > > @@ -225,7 +225,7 @@ > > fieldname > > - > + > tabid > block > displaytype > @@ -726,7 +726,6 @@ > > > > - > > > > @@ -808,10 +807,10 @@ > Type=InnoDB > accountid > > - > + > potentialid > > - > + > sales_stage > > Type=InnoDB > @@ -845,7 +844,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -945,7 +944,7 @@ > activityid > subject > > - > + > activitytype > date_start > > @@ -957,10 +956,10 @@ > date_start > time_start > > - > + > eventstatus > > - > + > status > eventstatus > > @@ -1003,7 +1002,7 @@ > > > Type=InnoDB > - > + > attachmentsid > > > @@ -1044,7 +1043,7 @@ > Type=InnoDB > crmid > > - > + > attachmentsid > crmid > > @@ -1180,7 +1179,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -1582,7 +1581,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -1757,7 +1756,7 @@ > > ticketid > > - > + > status > > > @@ -1788,6 +1787,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -2381,6 +2381,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -3033,7 +3034,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > Type=InnoDB > @@ -3572,7 +3573,7 @@ > > > > - > + > profileid > tabid > > @@ -3607,11 +3608,11 @@ > tabid > fieldname > > - > + > tabid > profileid > > - > + > visible > profileid > > @@ -3657,10 +3658,10 @@ > tabid > fieldid > > - > + > tabid > > - > + > visible > fieldid > > @@ -3793,7 +3794,7 @@ > > > > - > + > relation_id > > > @@ -4050,10 +4051,10 @@ > > > > - > + > quotestage > > - > + > potentialid > > > @@ -4799,10 +4800,10 @@ > > > > - > + > > > - > + > > > cvid > @@ -4873,6 +4874,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -5070,10 +5072,10 @@ > > > > - > + > > > - > + > > > datefilterid > > > _______________________________________________ > vtigercrm-commits mailing list > vtigercrm-commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > http://lists.vtigercrm.com/mailman/listinfo/vtigercrm-commits > > From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 23 00:04:02 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (philip@vtiger.com) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:04:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. Message-ID: <10a2621b1ce.-3260762611567805994.-1177807435764824079@@vtiger.com> Hi Team, Yesterday we have updated vtigerCRM 5 alpha3 demo at the following url: http://vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php. The reason behind for updating the demo is mainly to get the communitysuggestions and feedback so that we can have a fairlystable release vtigerCRM 5 Beta release. So feel free to test the demo and post bugs/feedback @ http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/newticket While submitting a ticket please ensure that : Select the version as 5.0.0 from the Version field Referto view ticketshttp://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&status=closed&group=version&version=5.0.0&order=statusbefore reporting a new ticket to avoid duplicate tickets. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's more or less the same for these module_map names: accounts activity contact customview email (i would include tables starting with mail also) notes products quotes reports rss users Can this be used as references? Or use all tables originating from the module, for example from squirrelmail in one prefix table name. > .vti_ as default > .vti_a_ for addon > .vti_p_ for plugin > .vti_{modulename}_ for module Best regards, Remco Gerbrands -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Mike Fedyk Verzonden: woensdag 22 maart 2006 9:02 Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database A lot of those tables store many-many relationships between various modules. Which module owns a table when it references to more than one module? I've thought about this before but that really killed the idea for me. If a solution or policy can be made that solves it, then it looks much more interesting. Also I absolutely do not like storing version numbers in table or db names. The migration from 4.2.[0123] should be able to be done by testing for some unique structure that is not in that version and changing it to the current version. Also adodb's data dictionary functions may be able to do this for us. I just want to make sure it does it in a lossless fashion. Mike From jtk at yahoo.com Thu Mar 23 10:34:32 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:34:32 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4398 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: data/CRMEntity.php modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php schema/DatabaseSchema.xml References: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <4422297A.90309@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > Jeff, is there a way I can cherry pick parts of changesets from a branch > with the svn merge command? The way I wrote up the svn merge example, with working-copy merges, would allow you to cherrypick in the following ways (possibly combining ways): a) only include selected files in your svn merge command, pulling only changes to that file into your working copy b) svn merge a smaller revision range, to get a few changesets instead of many. c) after merging changes to your working copy, svn diff your working copy, and manually undo certain changes (reducing the diff to your URL at rev HEAD), before committing. You have complete flexibility with what you commit, svn merge to working copy simply fetches applicable changes for you. From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Thu Mar 23 23:01:22 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:01:22 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. In-Reply-To: <10a2621b1ce.-3260762611567805994.-1177807435764824079@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <003b01c64f10$f11f01d0$4e64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hello Philip, How would I and my UI team be able to submit reviews and comments on the UI? For example, if there is a screen that I mention and need to provide recommendations for? With my clients we would usually perform screen captures and provide comments, circles-and-arrows and other markups for rapid review. Please advice. _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of philip at vtiger.com Sent: 23 March 2006 15:04 To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. Hi Team, Yesterday we have updated vtigerCRM 5 alpha3 demo at the following url: http://vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php. The reason behind for updating the demo is mainly to get the community suggestions and feedback so that we can have a fairly stable release vtigerCRM 5 Beta release. So feel free to test the demo and post bugs/feedback @ http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/newticket While submitting a ticket please ensure that : * Select the version as 5.0.0 from the Version field * Refer to view tickets http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/query?status=new&status=assigned &status=reopened&status=closed&group=version&version=5.0.0&order=status before reporting a new ticket to avoid duplicate tickets. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark them as applicable to version 5.0.0. http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/report The caveat is that the vtiger team is not (yet) using trac tickets and milestones to document their good and rapid work. I think that's a mistake and a lost opportunity, but I wasn't going to push the issue until vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 is imminent. Once the 5.0.0 version is in beta, we as a community have to apply the same disciplines that are being used to stabilize vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to good effect. From jlee at zertis.net Fri Mar 24 13:55:36 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:55:36 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 alpha 3 In-Reply-To: References: <003b01c64f10$f11f01d0$4e64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Message-ID: <44246AD8.9070707@zertis.net> I have a client who wants v5alpha3, so I am turning into a stable version for them. Here are some diffs for some patches. I do not have the time to create my own branch and submit these. Please someone take the time to commit these, to save everyone else the work. Index: includes/database/PearDatabase.php =================================================================== --- includes/database/PearDatabase.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/database/PearDatabase.php (working copy) @@ -435,7 +437,9 @@ /* ADODB newly added. replacement for mysql_result() */ function query_result(&$result, $row, $col=0) + if(!$result) + return null; //$this->println("ADODB query_result r=".$row." c=".$col); $result->Move($row); $rowdata = $this->change_key_case($result->FetchRow()); Index: includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php =================================================================== --- includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php (working copy) @@ -861,9 +861,9 @@ for($i=0; $i<$num_row; $i++) { $rel_tab_id = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"related_tabid"); - echo '
'.$rel_tab_id.'
'; + //echo '
'.$rel_tab_id.'
'; $funtion_name = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"name"); - echo '
'.$funtion_name.'
'; +// echo '
'.$funtion_name.'
'; $label = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"label"); if($rel_tab_id != 0) { Index: includes/utils/export.php =================================================================== --- includes/utils/export.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/utils/export.php (working copy) @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ require_once('modules/Potentials/Opportunity.php'); require_once('modules/Users/User.php'); require_once('modules/Products/Product.php'); - +require_once 'include/utils/UserInfoUtil.php'; global $allow_exports; session_start(); @@ -202,10 +204,12 @@ */ $order_by = ""; - $query = $focus->create_export_query($order_by,$where); - + // I made a new function for security during exporting. It makes sure they only have access + // to export what they would have access to read. Previous to this, anyone who had export writes, could export anything. + $query = $focus->create_export_query($order_by,$where); + $clause = getExportSecurityClause($type); + $query .= "\n and (\n $clause \n)"; + //print "
";
+       //print "
";
        //print $query;

        $result = $adb->query($query,true,"Error exporting $type: 
"."
$query");

Index: utils/UserInfoUtil.php
===================================================================
--- utils/UserInfoUtil.php      (revision 4391)
+++ utils/UserInfoUtil.php      (working copy)
@@ -3730,7 +3730,37 @@
        }
        return $list;
 }
+function getExportSecurityClause($module) {
+       global $current_user;

+       $tabid=getTabid($module);
+       global $current_user;
+       if($current_user)
+       {
+               
require('user_privileges/user_privileges_'.$current_user->id.'.php');
+               
require('user_privileges/sharing_privileges_'.$current_user->id.'.php');
+       }
+
+       $clause = "crmentity.smownerid in(".$current_user->id.") or 
crmentity.smownerid in(select user2role.userid from user2role inner join 
users on users.id=user2role.userid inner join role on 
role.roleid=user2role.roleid where role.parentrole like 
'".$current_user_parent_role_seq."::%') or crmentity.smownerid in(select 
shareduserid from tmp_read_user_sharing_per where 
userid=".$current_user->id." and tabid=".$tabid.")";
+       return $clause;
+}
 function getListViewSecurityParameter($module)
 {
        global $adb;


Hope this helps.
Josh Lee

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Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sun Mar 26 14:27:33 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:27:33 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility
In-Reply-To: 
References: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <49216030603261427pd3c0c1alef30958f9413be12@mail.gmail.com>

SVG is client-side graphs (or charting in this case)

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG

firefox 1.5 support SVG, (IE6 support it with the adobe plugin)

I heard somewhere that image_graph was planned to support output in SVG...


/sak

On 3/22/06, Michel JACQUEMES  wrote:
> I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some
> work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend
> package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have
> not checked Pear template dependencies.
>
> What do you mean by SVG?
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler
> > Envoy?: mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09
> > ?: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Objet: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility
> >
> > how will this be integrated in the final release ?
> >
> > because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to
> > execute command line commands to install stuff...
> > I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will
> > find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible
> > (because of restrictions on server)
> >
> > I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to
> > put pear files there
> > (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to
> > take this files)
> >
> > btw, michel you are doing a great job here !
> > does image_graph output to SVG ?
> >
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Mar 28 19:22:29 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (gopals@vtiger.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:22:29 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 API Documentation
Message-ID: <10a44061414.6947144176994677531.944817448814908012@@vtiger.com>

Dear Team,

As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on accomplishing this task.

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Mar 30 10:01:02 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:31:02 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks better?
Message-ID: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>

Folks

Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these color 
variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks 
appealing to you..

thanks,
Saint


*Model A*


or this one..?

*Model B

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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Thu Mar 30 10:55:13 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:55:13 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C2991.1040101@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi saint, my vote go to model A, more soft for me.
A?ssa
Saint a ?crit :

> Folks
>
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
> working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these 
> color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample 
> looks appealing to you..
>
> thanks,
> Saint
>
>
> *Model A*
>
>
> or this one..?
>
> *Model B
>
> *
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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From jlee at zertis.net  Thu Mar 30 11:12:54 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:12:54 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>

Saint wrote:

> Folks
>
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
> working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these 
> color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample 
> looks appealing to you..
>
> thanks,
> Saint
>
>
> *Model A*
>
>
> or this one..?
>
> *Model B
>
> *
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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>
Heh, I like B, it is bolder.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From info at GariDigital.com  Thu Mar 30 11:19:49 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:19:49 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com> <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>

I like model A

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 3/30/06, Josh Lee  wrote:
>
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Folks
> >
> > Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are
> > working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these
> > color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample
> > looks appealing to you..
> >
> > thanks,
> > Saint
> >
> >
> > *Model A*
> >
> >
> > or this one..?
> >
> > *Model B
> >
> > *
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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> >
> Heh, I like B, it is bolder.
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Thu Mar 30 12:16:56 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:16:56 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com> <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
	<677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <994473020603301216u43171a5bod8aca1c60bd30949@mail.gmail.com>

I like A better.    More business like in my opinion.


Jamie


On 3/30/06, Jorge Garifuna  wrote:
>
> I like model A
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com
>
>
> On 3/30/06, Josh Lee  wrote:
> >
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Folks
> > >
> > > Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are
> > > working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these
> > > color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample
> > > looks appealing to you..
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Saint
> > >
> > >
> > > *Model A*
> > >
> > >
> > > or this one..?
> > >
> > > *Model B
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> >
> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >
> > Heh, I like B, it is bolder.
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
> >
>
>
>
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From info at adlibweb.com  Thu Mar 30 12:19:04 2006
From: info at adlibweb.com (adlibweb)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>

Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out better), better blending, green button stands out better.

n
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Saint 
  To: vtiger-crm ; LANCER : Developers List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:01 PM
  Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks better?


  Folks

  Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks appealing to you..

  thanks,
  Saint


  Model A


  or this one..?

  Model B




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From nolan at peaceworks.ca  Thu Mar 30 12:27:59 2006
From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:27:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C3F4F.9030001@peaceworks.ca>

yup... A

peace,
nokes

Saint wrote:
> Folks
> 
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are working on. 
> We started the color with blue.. and came across these color variants Model A 
> and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks appealing to you..
> 
> thanks,
> Saint
> 
> 
> *Model A*
> 
> 
> or this one..?
> 
> *Model B
> 
> *
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From rrg at r2g.nl  Thu Mar 30 13:05:48 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Remco R. Gerbrands)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:05:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
	<009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
Message-ID: <20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200, adlibweb wrote
> Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out 
> better), better blending, green button stands out better.


Agree, A is better.

Remco

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From libregeek at gmail.com  Thu Mar 30 21:48:29 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:18:29 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
	<009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
	<20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>
Message-ID: <2315046d0603302148q7606cd2ap3c326da2cd79a913@mail.gmail.com>

A looks cool and elegant.
regards
Manilal

On 31/03/06, Remco R. Gerbrands  wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200, adlibweb wrote
> > Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out
> > better), better blending, green button stands out better.
>
>
> Agree, A is better.
>
> Remco
>
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Mar 31 02:35:08 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:35:08 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
Message-ID: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other 
lang for release.

See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with english.

For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the 
link go to "Hacking Attempt".

Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.

UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.

Screenshot calendar1.jpg, since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format 
here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's 
Day month year).

The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway 
harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as 
vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on 
vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !


A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta 
test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open 
the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and 
relation to promote vtiger outside community.

Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
A?ssa

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From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 03:21:58 2006
From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:21:58 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I totally agree with you A?ssa.
I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.

If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.

Best Regards
Jo?o Oliveira.

On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
>
> Hi team,
> i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> lang for release.
>
> See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
>
> For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> link go to "Hacking Attempt".
>
> Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
>
> UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
>
> Screenshot calendar1.jpg, since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> Day month year).
>
> The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
>
>
> A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> relation to promote vtiger outside community.
>
> Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> A?ssa
>
> .
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From info at adlibweb.com  Fri Mar 31 03:27:01 2006
From: info at adlibweb.com (adlibweb)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:27:01 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>

And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joao Oliveira 
  To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang


  Hello all,

  I totally agree with you A?ssa. 
  I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.

  If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.

  Best Regards
  Jo?o Oliveira.


  On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
    Hi team,
    i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
    lang for release.

    See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with english.

    For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the 
    link go to "Hacking Attempt".

    Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.

    UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.

    Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
    here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
    Day month year).

    The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
    harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
    vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
    vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !


    A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta 
    test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
    the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
    relation to promote vtiger outside community.

    Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english 
    A?ssa

    .


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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 04:20:34 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:20:34 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
Message-ID: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>

once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak

On 3/31/06, adlibweb  wrote:
>
> And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joao Oliveira
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
>
> Hello all,
>
> I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>
> If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
> all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>
> Best Regards
> Jo?o Oliveira.
>
>
> On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
> > Hi team,
> > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > lang for release.
> >
> > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
> >
> > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> >
> > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
> >
> > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> >
> > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > Day month year).
> >
> > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> >
> >
> > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> >
> > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > A?ssa
> >
> > .
> >
> >
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From richie at vtiger.com  Fri Mar 31 05:30:43 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:30:43 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
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Message-ID: <10a507fa4a9.3228964008498662867.8913703528505651198@@vtiger.com>

That, is not the exact fact. 
We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues at our end. Once we resolve those, 
we will have it integrated into the product. 
 
/sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time. 
internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we have been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see for everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. Every contribution is important to us and we try hard to 
do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to integrate all of them quickly. 
MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have 
worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the issues. We still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon with his help. 
 
 
Thanks, 
Richie




---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ---- 

  once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak

On 3/31/06, adlibweb <info at adlibweb.com> wrote:
>
> And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joao Oliveira
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
>
> Hello all,
>
> I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>
> If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
> all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>
> Best Regards
> Jo?o Oliveira.
>
>
> On 3/31/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
> > Hi team,
> > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > lang for release.
> >
> > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
> >
> > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> >
> > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
> >
> > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> >
> > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > Day month year).
> >
> > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> >
> >
> > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> >
> > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > A?ssa
> >
> > .
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 07:48:20 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:48:20 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <7528873980224066170@unknownmsgid>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
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	<7528873980224066170@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030603310748j570b0fffp8b073b5d8d47d8a6@mail.gmail.com>

richie, I din't know that, my apologies...


On 3/31/06, Richie  wrote:
> That, is not the exact fact.
> We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues at
> our end. Once we resolve those,
> we will have it integrated into the product.
>
> /sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time.
> internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we have
> been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see for
> everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. Every
> contribution is important to us and we try hard to
> do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to integrate
> all of them quickly.
> MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have
> worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the issues. We
> still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon with his help.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Sergio A. Kessler wrote ----
>
>
>  once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
> is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(
>
> /sak
>
> On 3/31/06, adlibweb  wrote:
> >
> > And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joao Oliveira
> > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> > I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> > loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
> >
> > If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to
> review
> > all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jo?o Oliveira.
> >
> >
> > On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
> > > Hi team,
> > > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > > lang for release.
> > >
> > > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> > english.
> > >
> > > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> > >
> > > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for
> translaters.
> > >
> > > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> > >
> > > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > > Day month year).
> > >
> > > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> > >
> > >
> > > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > > A?ssa
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From rrg at r2g.nl  Fri Mar 31 05:29:44 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:29:44 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Well,

What is against implementing gettext solution from mike into vtigercrm v5?
Not in v4 as that's stable and this would be a new feature: easier
translations.
So what can I do to get this implemented?

Remco


[/sak wrote:]
once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak


From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Mar  1 04:34:41 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:34:41 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on last
	commits for trunk branches on php files
Message-ID: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>

hi team,

i noticed a problem on some commits:

Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php
==============================================================================
Binary files - no diff available.

php files are not binary files ;)
mime-type is false, you must use text/plain.

command under linux/cygwin (thks mike):
find -iname '*.php*' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain

cheers,

fathi


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Wed Mar  1 04:32:44 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:32:44 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on
 last commits for trunk branches on php files
In-Reply-To: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <44056A3C.2080704@mikefedyk.com>

Fathi Boudra wrote:

>hi team,
>
>i noticed a problem on some commits:
>
>Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php
>==============================================================================
>Binary files - no diff available.
>
>php files are not binary files ;)
>mime-type is false, you must use text/plain.
>
>command under linux/cygwin (thks mike):
>find -iname '*.php*' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain
>  
>
One too many asterisks in there...  It should be:

find -iname '*.php' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain




From jtk at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  1 08:40:59 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:40:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on
	last commits for trunk branches on php files
References: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>
	<44056A3C.2080704@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:32:44 -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:

> Fathi Boudra wrote:
> 
>>hi team,
>>
>>i noticed a problem on some commits:
>>
>>Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php
>>==============================================================================
>>Binary files - no diff available.
>>
>>php files are not binary files ;)
>>mime-type is false, you must use text/plain.
>
> One too many asterisks in there...  It should be:
> 
> find -iname '*.php' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain


Also, each committer should have a good [auto-props] section in their
~/.subversion/config file, which properly sets mime-type and eol-type for
all file extensions in use by this project (including .inc, etc.)



From jtk at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  1 14:57:50 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:57:50 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigercrm-5.0.0alpha2 demo looks great
Message-ID: 

Just wanted to congratulate the vtigercrm team on the improvements to the
vtigercrm-5.0.0alpha2 demo. It's really looking quite good. There isn't
really a lot of use for positive feedback in the trac ticket system, so
I'll say it here.

I'd also like to commend the vtigercrm-4.2.x maintainers, whose efforts to
support the stable release are allowing the vtigercrm team to make these
leaps forward.

Thanks again, guys.



From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 13:58:07 2006
From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:58:07 +0000
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Receiving data from outside sources
In-Reply-To: <49216030602280713g71d470edw676dcd0219757fb2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43FB7E8F.7030502@mikefedyk.com>
	
	<440382EA.9090701@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030602271634s362b7038rd469c4d2287b00d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<4403BDF9.6030606@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030602280713g71d470edw676dcd0219757fb2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86f04e340603011058h1a0675e8mea3efc6d7c3a623d@mail.gmail.com>

I found this when i was reading about REST...

http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2004/12/12/rest-to-my-wife

Maybe you want to explain it to your wife... :)

Best Regards
Joao Oliveira.

On 2/28/06, Sergio A. Kessler  wrote:
>
> like, look in
>
> http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
>
> there are various code samples there...
>
> basically you don't need a specialized library, good old
> file_get_contents is your friend ;-)
> (or you can use the curl extension)
>
> I'm imagining something like:
>
> exporting:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=csv
> or
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=xml
>
> importing:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=import_client
>
> this last call should be made by a POST action, passing in the data,
> can be made by a simple php script, something like
>
> foreach line in the source csv_file
> {
>     $postargs = 
>
>     // Get the curl session object
>     $session = curl_init($request);
>
>     // Set the POST options.
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POST, true);
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS, $postargs);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_HEADER, true);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true);
>
>     // Do the POST and then close the session
>     $response = curl_exec($session);
>     curl_close($session);
>
>
> of course, the folder "api" should be protected wrt security.
>
> /sak
>
>
> On 2/28/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> > Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> >
> > >On 2/27/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>The focus of the question is how to get data in and out of vtiger
> using
> > >>public interfaces from another automated system.  I would like to
> renew
> > >>that question.  Is SOAP the only and/or best answer in this area?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >nop.
> > >SOAP is a complex beast that must die.
> > >
> > >you can use REST (web services done right).
> > >
> > >just like yahoo does with php:
> > >
> > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
> > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/howto-reqRestPhp.html
> > >
> > >note that with "output" parameter you can control what you get, ie.
> > >CSV, XML, txt, whatever.
> > >
> > >
> > Have any links to php libraries for REST?  I'm reading through the
> > various articles in Wikipedia right now...
>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 18:23:15 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:23:15 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Receiving data from outside sources
In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603011058h1a0675e8mea3efc6d7c3a623d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43FB7E8F.7030502@mikefedyk.com>
	
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wow, very illustrative, very...  :-)

I will keep this link handy when someone start to mention acronyms of
complicated and bloated protocols...

cites from the article:

"The protocol I was talking about, HTTP - it's capable of all sorts of
neat stuff that people ignore for some reason."

"Instead, the large majority [of computer people] are busy writing
layers of complex specifications for doing this stuff in a different
way that isn't nearly as useful or eloquent."


he!, if you really want to know the the advantages of SOAP, look at this link:

http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200504/msg00274.html


/sak


On 3/1/06, Joao Oliveira  wrote:
> I found this when i was reading about REST...
>
> http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2004/12/12/rest-to-my-wife
>
> Maybe you want to explain it to your wife... :)
>
> Best Regards
> Joao Oliveira.
>
>
> On 2/28/06, Sergio A. Kessler  wrote:
> >
> like, look in
>
> http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
>
> there are various code samples there...
>
> basically you don't need a specialized library, good old
> file_get_contents is your friend ;-)
> (or you can use the curl extension)
>
> I'm imagining something like:
>
> exporting:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=csv
> or
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=xml
>
> importing:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=import_client
>
> this last call should be made by a POST action, passing in the data,
> can be made by a simple php script, something like
>
>  foreach line in the source csv_file
>  {
>     $postargs = 
>
>     // Get the curl session object
>     $session = curl_init($request);
>
>     // Set the POST options.
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POST, true);
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS, $postargs);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_HEADER, true);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true);
>
>     // Do the POST and then close the session
>     $response = curl_exec($session);
>     curl_close($session);
>
>
> of course, the folder "api" should be protected wrt security.
>
> /sak
>
>
> On 2/28/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> > Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> >
> > >On 2/27/06, Mike Fedyk < mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>The focus of the question is how to get data in and out of vtiger using
> > >>public interfaces from another automated system.  I would like to renew
> > >>that question.  Is SOAP the only and/or best answer in this area?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >nop.
> > >SOAP is a complex beast that must die.
> > >
> > >you can use REST (web services done right).
> > >
> > >just like yahoo does with php:
> > >
> > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
> > > http://developer.yahoo.net/php/howto-reqRestPhp.html
> > >
> > >note that with "output" parameter you can control what you get, ie.
> > >CSV, XML, txt, whatever.
> > >
> > >
> > Have any links to php libraries for REST?  I'm reading through the
> > various articles in Wikipedia right now...
>
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Thu Mar  2 04:52:16 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:52:16 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released!
Message-ID: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>

Dear Team,

We are pleased inform you the release of vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 (development release) for  testing purpose.

Major Features:
Campaign management
Enhanced pre-defined dashboards
AJAXified Edit Fields in all the modules

Intuitive System Administration
Integration of Web services to update all your public listed customer/company profiles
View multidimensional models for product catalog
Latest news on company updates
Shout box for vtiger CRM users
Redesigned Customer Self-service portal
Support for MySQL 4.1.x database system

    Demo: 

    vtiger CRM: http://www.vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php

     admin/admin

    Customer Portal:

    http://www.vtiger.com/products/crm/customerportal_5alpha/

Note: First create a contact in vtiger CRM Alpha demo and get the user name password. Don't forget to enable "Portal User" option in Contact details page.

Download:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/vtigercrm/vtiger_CRM_5_alpha2_Source.tar.gz?download

Installation Procedure:

http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Vtiger_CRM_5_Alpha_2_-_Installation_Guide

Bug Tracker: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/report

Discussions: http://forums.vtiger.com/index.php?c=10

Please do post your suggestions & comments to provide a better product for vtiger community.

Cheers,

Gopal
(On behalf of vtiger Team)


S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
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From ar at im-netz.de  Thu Mar  2 07:00:59 2006
From: ar at im-netz.de (Alexander Rothenberg)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:00:59 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree?
Message-ID: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de>

Hi evryone,
i was trying get the vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree from the
sourceforge-cvs-server with "cvs -z3
-d:pserver:anonymous at cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/vtigercrm co -r
VTIGERCRM_4_2_BRANCH vtiger_crm" but i stil get the 5 alpha 2, can any1
tell me what im doing wrong? or is there a better way to get the 4.2.4
RC2 source?

thx, alex


From fboudra at free.fr  Thu Mar  2 08:10:04 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:10:04 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree?
In-Reply-To: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de>
References: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de>
Message-ID: <200603021410.04813.fboudra@free.fr>

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage


From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Thu Mar  2 08:54:49 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:54:49 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview
In-Reply-To: <4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>
References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com>
	<4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>

saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using
images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations...

/sak

On 2/28/06, Saint  wrote:
>
>         Team,
>
>  The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI.  In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order.
>
>  After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided.
>
>  - Saint
>
>
>
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From jamieinnh at gmail.com.idc.adventnet.com  Thu Mar  2 10:18:30 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com.idc.adventnet.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:18:30 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Someone is saying the Demo of vTiger has
	been hacked
Message-ID: <994473020603020718s415f49acx9fe445568a1196b4@mail.gmail.com>

I went to the demo and can't see where it's changed, but has anyone looked
into this?

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=21417#21417


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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Thu Mar  2 12:06:33 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:06:33 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 Release Schedule
In-Reply-To: <43FC5310.90206@mikefedyk.com>
References: <43FBF414.8020407@mikefedyk.com> <43FC5310.90206@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <44072619.5060101@mikefedyk.com>

Hi everyone,

Well we missed our release date, again. :)

I need to do a few checkins before a checkin, and make an rc3.  I want 
to make sure the windows installer is ready so it can be released when 
rc3 goes out and get a day or two of testing.

Other than that I think we're ready for 4.2.4 to be let loose.

Mike

Mike Fedyk wrote:

>Did I say May?  Sorry that should have been *March* 1st.
>
>Mike
>
>Mike Fedyk wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>I am planning on releasing 4.2.4rc1 on Friday, so let's get in all of 
>>the changes that are planned for 4.2.4 before then so we can release 
>>on May 1st.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>    
>>
>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Thu Mar  2 12:07:29 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:07:29 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview
In-Reply-To: <49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com>	<4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com>

I believe it is generated from text and can be translated properly just 
like everything else.

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using
>images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations...
>
>/sak
>
>On 2/28/06, Saint  wrote:
>  
>
>>        Team,
>>
>> The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI.  In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order.
>>
>> After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided.
>>
>> - Saint
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>    
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Mar  2 12:35:04 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:05:04 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview
In-Reply-To: <44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com>
References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com>	<4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>	<49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <44072CC8.9020303@vtiger.com>

Mike, Sak,

In GA the image heading will be replaced with text heading.

-Saint



Mike Fedyk wrote:

>I believe it is generated from text and can be translated properly just 
>like everything else.
>
>Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
>  
>
>>saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using
>>images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations...
>>
>>/sak
>>
>>On 2/28/06, Saint  wrote:
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>       Team,
>>>
>>>The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI.  In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order.
>>>
>>>After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided.
>>>
>>>- Saint
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
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>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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>>
>>    
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Thu Mar  2 15:07:09 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:07:09 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Who is handling vtiger's freshmeat entry?
In-Reply-To: <10990400e17.756168470955524032.5677358827788219315@@vtiger.com>
References: <43FB94F8.6020208@mikefedyk.com>
	<10990400e17.756168470955524032.5677358827788219315@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <4407506D.5000604@mikefedyk.com>

I still don't see an update for alpha2...

Gopal wrote:
>
> Dear Mike,
>
> I will update vtiger project details in freshmeat ASAP.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gopal
>
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ----
>
>     It needs a release notification about 5.0 alpha.
>
>     I use freshmeat for searching open source projects and improving our
>     ranking there will help get us more users and developers IMO.
>
>     Mike
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From saint at vtiger.com  Fri Mar  3 04:14:16 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:44:16 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
Message-ID: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>

Team,

We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a 
Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major 
modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20, 
50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus 
eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module. To 
facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been 
given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the 
dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral bindings 
to the right.

Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of page 
heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the default 
landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people can select 
their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can select their fav 
module and so, the others.


-Saint

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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Mar  3 04:25:20 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:25:20 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i 
have french users very positive feedback.
A?ssa

Saint a ?crit :

> Team,
>
> We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a 
> Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major 
> modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20, 
> 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus 
> eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module. 
> To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been 
> given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the 
> dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral 
> bindings to the right.
>
> Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of 
> page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the 
> default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people 
> can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can 
> select their fav module and so, the others.
>
>
> -Saint
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar  3 10:19:13 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:19:13 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>

saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard
approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two
different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web
usability, you just broke the "page" concept...

there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen.

(I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...)

/sak

On 3/3/06, Webmaster  wrote:
> Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i
> have french users very positive feedback.
> A?ssa
>
> Saint a ?crit :
>
> > Team,
> >
> > We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a
> > Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major
> > modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20,
> > 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus
> > eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module.
> > To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been
> > given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the
> > dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral
> > bindings to the right.
> >
> > Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of
> > page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the
> > default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people
> > can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can
> > select their fav module and so, the others.
> >
> >
> > -Saint
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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From saint at vtiger.com  Fri Mar  3 14:21:45 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:51:45 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>

sak,

Sorry, I couldnt get what you mean by "two differnet scroll windows". 
Please throw some more light over this! In the At a Glance UI, there is 
only one scrollable DIV layer in the right.



cheers,
Saint



Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard
>approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two
>different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web
>usability, you just broke the "page" concept...
>
>there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen.
>
>(I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...)
>
>/sak
>
>On 3/3/06, Webmaster  wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i
>>have french users very positive feedback.
>>A?ssa
>>
>>Saint a ?crit :
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Team,
>>>
>>>We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a
>>>Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major
>>>modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20,
>>>50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus
>>>eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module.
>>>To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been
>>>given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the
>>>dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral
>>>bindings to the right.
>>>
>>>Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of
>>>page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the
>>>default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people
>>>can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can
>>>select their fav module and so, the others.
>>>
>>>
>>>-Saint
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>    
>>
>
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From developer at infointegrated.com  Fri Mar  3 08:48:11 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 07:48:11 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <88BAD7A1-DE7C-44A5-827E-5FD40B679FE2@infointegrated.com>

Saint,

A couple of comments:

The new UI looks amazing. it really is slick, and I can't wait for it  
to be released. :)

The Dashboard looks like a website within a website. It doesn't  
appear to be well integrated into vtiger. My main concern is the  
static size of the iframe (not sure that's what it is, just what it  
looks like). This means having a larger display is not an advantage.  
Plus, there's a lot of wasted space on the screen (if you make you  
browser window larger). I hope that this is adjusted for the final  
release. It also appears that the future At a Glance may have the  
same issue.

I really like the new At a Glance... I still think vtiger needs a  
home page that can be customized with daily use information. A sort  
of, "What am I doing today? view". I think of activities, meetings,  
open tickets, email, calendar... the first things I look at every  
day. I'd like to have a place I can quickly see all of them.

Thanks, and keep up the great work!
Brian

On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:14 AM, Saint wrote:

> Team,
>
> We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called At a  
> Glance. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major  
> modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10,  
> 20, 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and  
> thus eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X  
> module. To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All  
> Modules" has been given, which will display all Top X modules one  
> by one (like the dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have  
> included spiral bindings to the right.
>
> Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of  
> page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the  
> default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people  
> can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can  
> select their fav module and so, the others.
>
>
> -Saint
> 
>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still  
> using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the  
> AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho  
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From fp at crm-now.de  Fri Mar  3 10:11:00 2006
From: fp at crm-now.de (Frank Piepiorra)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:11:00 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reports fixing
Message-ID: <200603031512.k23FCCFn012852@doko.im-netz.de>

There has been a posting of a Reports fix, I do not see it included in rc2:

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3884&highlight=report

Regards,
Frank



From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar  3 15:36:42 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:36:42 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>

saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...

I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
within a website"...

look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...

see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
"page" has been broken...

"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
way around a website or finding the content they wanted."

what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html


it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
the graph part (which is not what I want)


/sak
(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.


On 3/3/06, Saint  wrote:
>  sak,
>
>  Sorry, I couldnt get what you mean by "two differnet scroll windows".
> Please throw some more light over this! In the At a Glance UI, there is only
> one scrollable DIV layer in the right.
>
>
>
>  cheers,
>  Saint
>
>
>
>
>  Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>  saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard
> approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two
> different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web
> usability, you just broke the "page" concept...
>
> there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen.
>
> (I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...)
>
> /sak
>
> On 3/3/06, Webmaster  wrote:
>
>
>  Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i
> have french users very positive feedback.
> A?ssa
>
> Saint a ?crit :
>
>
>
>  Team,
>
> We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a
> Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major
> modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20,
> 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus
> eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module.
> To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been
> given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the
> dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral
> bindings to the right.
>
> Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of
> page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the
> default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people
> can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can
> select their fav module and so, the others.
>
>
> -Saint
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your
> desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled,
> collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
> http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your
> desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled,
> collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
> http://zohowriter.com/?vt
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>
>  _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your
> desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled,
> collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
> http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled,
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From philip at vtiger.com  Fri Mar  3 15:25:18 2006
From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:25:18 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
Message-ID: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com>

Hi Developers,

The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location 
http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe

Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as there was execption during installation.

Regards,
Rajkumar
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 01:23:15 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:23:15 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
In-Reply-To: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com>
References: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <44093253.2000807@mikefedyk.com>

Can someone send me the modified source files?

I don't have a windows machine I can use for testing.

Mike

Philip wrote:

> Hi Developers,
>
> The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location 
> http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe
>
> Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as there was execption during installation.
>
> Regards,
> Rajkumar
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>http://zohowriter.com/?vt 
>  
>


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 01:33:05 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:33:05 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
>
>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
>within a website"...
>
>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...
>
>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
>"page" has been broken...
>
>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
>way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
>
>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
>
>
>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
>the graph part (which is not what I want)
>
>
>/sak
>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.
>  
>
I'm sorry but I completely disagree.

Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with 
the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the 
concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.

And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll 
the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of 
IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in 
Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).


From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 07:24:25 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 13:24:25 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
Message-ID: 

I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.

VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.

While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
we can read that:

"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
License for commercial use."

So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
specifically for commercial usage.

Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.

Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
your opinion?


Marcin
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Sat Mar  4 07:33:56 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:33:56 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <44098934.7060300@vtigercrmfrance.org>

"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) 
For non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph 
Professional License for commercial use."

vtiger CRM is open-source so i think there is no problem.
A?ssa

Marcin Antczak a ?crit :

> I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
>
> VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version 
> there is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 
> license.
>
> While it's true but only partially. Because on 
> http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
> we can read that:
>
> "JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) 
> For non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph 
> Professional License for commercial use."
>
> So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, 
> we need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software 
> designed specifically for commercial usage.
>
> Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
>
> Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what 
> to do with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to 
> config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What 
> is your opinion?
>
>
> Marcin
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>http://zohowriter.com/?vt 
>  
>


From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Sat Mar  4 07:39:34 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:39:34 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger blogs spammed
Message-ID: <44098A86.7010700@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi,
the vtiger blog is spammed by registered users !

http://blogs.vtiger.com/weblog_entry.php?p=21517#21517

http://blogs.vtiger.com/weblog_entry.php?p=21525#21525

Aissa



From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 09:58:15 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 09:58:15 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
References: <18711.168508935$1141418802@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: 

Philip wrote:
> Hi Developers,
> The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location 
> http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe
> Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php
> as there was execption during installation. Regards,
> Rajkumar

Sigh...

There is no version vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC. There are
release candidates vtigercrm-4.2.4rc1, vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2, and
vtigercrm-4.2.4rc3, and the final release will be vtigercrm-4.2.4. Which
version does this installer resemble?


Thanks for the efforts on an installer, they are appreciated.




From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 10:08:58 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 12:08:58 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
	<440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com>

1. I don't use IE.

2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the
vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux).

3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple
scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that.


/sak

On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
> >saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
> >vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
> >
> >I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
> >within a website"...
> >
> >look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...
> >
> >see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
> >"page" has been broken...
> >
> >"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
> >since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
> >Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
> >doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
> >way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
> >
> >what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
> >jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
> >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
> >
> >
> >it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
> >what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
> >rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
> >the graph part (which is not what I want)
> >
> >
> >/sak
> >(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.
> >
> >
> I'm sorry but I completely disagree.
>
> Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with
> the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the
> concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.
>
> And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll
> the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of
> IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in
> Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 12:37:48 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:37:48 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
In-Reply-To: 
References: <18711.168508935$1141418802@news.gmane.org>
	
Message-ID: <200603041837.49042.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 15:58, Jeff Kowalczyk a ?crit?:
> Philip wrote:
> > Hi Developers,
> > The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following
> > location http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe
> > Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php
> > as there was execption during installation. Regards,
> > Rajkumar
>
> Sigh...
> 
> There is no version vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC. There are
> release candidates vtigercrm-4.2.4rc1, vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2, and
> vtigercrm-4.2.4rc3, and the final release will be vtigercrm-4.2.4. Which
> version does this installer resemble?
> 
>
> Thanks for the efforts on an installer, they are appreciated.

like jeff said, i recall that you can look the small developer documentation :
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki

especially coding style and naming scheme.
comments/contributions are welcomed too.

cheers,

Fathi



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 13:23:09 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:23:09 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit?:
> I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
>
> VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
> is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.
>
> While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
> we can read that:
>
> "JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
> License for commercial use."
>
> So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
> need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
> specifically for commercial usage.
>
> Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
>
> Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
> with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
> config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
> your opinion?
>
>
> Marcin

from debian jpgraph copyright file:
---BEGIN---
For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle 


To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed 
version. You can read on home page:

"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
License for commercial use."

This is not compliant with DFSG #6 

"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a 
specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from 
being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research."

It was downloaded from:
http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz
---END---

with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source" 
term :
"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
License for commercial use."

but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire 
the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on 
a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are 
using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business 
processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company. 
In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either 
through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most 
likely falls under commercial use."

with this statements, my interpretation is:
we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't 
sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services 
around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic 
advantage" and need professional license.

This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph 
professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know.

We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last 
GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ?

cheers,

Fathi



From developer at infointegrated.com  Sat Mar  4 12:13:52 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:13:52 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
	<440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com>

I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should  
not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I  
was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels  
(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with  
two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21"  
screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels  
rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a  
small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page.


On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

> 1. I don't use IE.
>
> 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the
> vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux).
>
> 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple
> scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that.
>
>
> /sak
>
> On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
>> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>>
>>> saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
>>> vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
>>>
>>> I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
>>> within a website"...
>>>
>>> look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking  
>>> about...
>>>
>>> see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept  
>>> of a
>>> "page" has been broken...
>>>
>>> "The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
>>> since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
>>> Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
>>> doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding  
>>> their
>>> way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
>>>
>>> what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
>>> jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
>>> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
>>>
>>>
>>> it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
>>> what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
>>> rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
>>> the graph part (which is not what I want)
>>>
>>>
>>> /sak
>>> (*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web  
>>> usability.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm sorry but I completely disagree.
>>
>> Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with
>> the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the
>> concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.
>>
>> And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't  
>> scroll
>> the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is  
>> because of
>> IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox  
>> and in
>> Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).
>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 13:46:02 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:46:02 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>

Fathi BOUDRA wrote:

>Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit :
>  
>
>>I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
>>
>>VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
>>is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.
>>
>>While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
>>we can read that:
>>
>>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
>>non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
>>License for commercial use."
>>
>>So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
>>need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
>>specifically for commercial usage.
>>
>>Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
>>
>>Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
>>with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
>>config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
>>your opinion?
>>
>>
>>Marcin
>>    
>>
>
>from debian jpgraph copyright file:
>---BEGIN---
>For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle 
>
>
>To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed 
>version. You can read on home page:
>
>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
>non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
>License for commercial use."
>
>This is not compliant with DFSG #6 
>
>"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a 
>specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from 
>being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research."
>
>It was downloaded from:
>http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz
>---END---
>
>with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source" 
>term :
>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
>non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
>License for commercial use."
>
>but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
>http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
>"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire 
>the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on 
>a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are 
>using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business 
>processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company. 
>In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either 
>through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most 
>likely falls under commercial use."
>
>with this statements, my interpretation is:
>we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't 
>sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services 
>around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic 
>advantage" and need professional license.
>
>This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph 
>professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know.
>
>We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last 
>GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ?
>
We need to change to jgraph 1.5.2 and if the GPL version isn't being 
maintained we will need to find an alternative or maintain it ourselves.

Mike


From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 13:47:10 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:47:10 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: 

On 3/4/06, Fathi BOUDRA  wrote:
>
> but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
> http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
> "if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to
> acquire
> the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph
> on
> a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are
> using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business
> processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company.
> In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either
> through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this
> most
> likely falls under commercial use."
>
> with this statements, my interpretation is:
> we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't
> sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services
> around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic
> advantage" and need professional license.



And this is the problem.

Because I agree:

- you don't sell vtiger so you can use jpgraph since you don't gain any
incomes

- you can also distribute jpgraph but then problem is that you don't know
how other use vtiger

- if they use vtiger 'non-commercial' then everything is ok
  (for example open source developers, private users... )

- but as we all know - vtiger is open source product targeted for business
users, so they:

"In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either
through paying customers or improving ___internal___ business processes)
this most
likely falls under commercial use."

So although you can distribute jpgraph, you can use this as open source
developer etc. then other _business_ users violate JpGraph license and
should buy 'JpGraph professional' license or - remove/disable this library
in vtiger - or downgrade library that is bundled with vtiger to 1.5.2 as
Fathi said.


Marcin
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 13:48:35 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 15:48:35 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph


On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> Fathi BOUDRA wrote:
>
> >Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit :
> >
> >
> >>I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
> >>
> >>VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
> >>is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.
> >>
> >>While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
> >>we can read that:
> >>
> >>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> >>non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
> >>License for commercial use."
> >>
> >>So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
> >>need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
> >>specifically for commercial usage.
> >>
> >>Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
> >>
> >>Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
> >>with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
> >>config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
> >>your opinion?
> >>
> >>
> >>Marcin
> >>
> >>
> >
> >from debian jpgraph copyright file:
> >---BEGIN---
> >For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle
> >
> >
> >To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed
> >version. You can read on home page:
> >
> >"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> >non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional
> >License for commercial use."
> >
> >This is not compliant with DFSG #6
> >
> >"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a
> >specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from
> >being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research."
> >
> >It was downloaded from:
> >http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz
> >---END---
> >
> >with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source"
> >term :
> >"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> >non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional
> >License for commercial use."
> >
> >but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
> >http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
> >"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire
> >the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on
> >a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are
> >using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business
> >processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company.
> >In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either
> >through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most
> >likely falls under commercial use."
> >
> >with this statements, my interpretation is:
> >we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't
> >sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services
> >around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic
> >advantage" and need professional license.
> >
> >This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph
> >professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know.
> >
> >We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last
> >GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ?
> >
> We need to change to jgraph 1.5.2 and if the GPL version isn't being
> maintained we will need to find an alternative or maintain it ourselves.
>
> Mike
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 14:03:24 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:03:24 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph

Without knowing much about the library API itself, this has the added
advantage that it is PHP4/5 compatible. jpgraph on the other hand, has two
incompatible versions:

PHP4: JpGraph 1.x - series Note: The 1.x series is only for PHP4. It will
not work on PHP5. Version: 1.20.3 (18 Feb 2006)

PHP5: JpGraph 2.x - series Note: The 2.x series is only for PHP5. It will
not work on PHP4 Version: 2.1.1 (19 Feb 2006)

I know we're not supporting PHP5 at the moment, but that's one less thing
to worry about when the time comes. FWIW ran an old version of vtigercrm
on PHP 5 for a while, and jpgraph was the only obvious thing that didn't
work.



From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 14:08:22 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:08:22 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>

Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:

>Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>  
>
>>http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph
>>    
>>
>
>Without knowing much about the library API itself, this has the added
>advantage that it is PHP4/5 compatible. jpgraph on the other hand, has two
>incompatible versions:
>
>PHP4: JpGraph 1.x - series Note: The 1.x series is only for PHP4. It will
>not work on PHP5. Version: 1.20.3 (18 Feb 2006)
>
>PHP5: JpGraph 2.x - series Note: The 2.x series is only for PHP5. It will
>not work on PHP4 Version: 2.1.1 (19 Feb 2006)
>
>I know we're not supporting PHP5 at the moment, but that's one less thing
>to worry about when the time comes. FWIW ran an old version of vtigercrm
>on PHP 5 for a while, and jpgraph was the only obvious thing that didn't
>work.
>  
>
Bye bye jgraph.

Sounds good and we will punt jgraph ASAP.   For now we will use jgraph 
1.5.2 until it is replaced.

Mike


From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 14:05:51 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:05:51 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph

I'd also like to ask the prevailing opinion on what the licensing
difference would be if (graph library X) were an external dependency. 

I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of
course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks
of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but
now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.

Let vtiger worry about its own GPL license only. Let the distro
maintainers, and user-administrator decide if vtigercrm and
well-specified prerequisites are compatible with their free-software
policies.



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 14:27:08 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 20:27:08 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr>

good news :)

we've got an agreement :
* short term :
- replace current jpgraph 1.20.3, and use last gpl release 1.5.2
- indeed, some "regression" tests are needed ...
* long term :
- provide alternative -> Image_Graph, LGPL licensed
http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph

We need also vtiger core team comments, especially for 5.x.
ATM, there's only Image_graph alternative proposal, but if you know a good 
competitor feel free to submit :)

regarding last jeff post:
Image_graph v0.7.1 is in debian (php-image-graph)

debian/ubuntu package are on their way to drop :
* adodb
* squirrelmail
* phpsysinfo

and use distribution package.

cheers,

Fathi


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 14:41:57 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:41:57 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>

Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:

>Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>  
>
>>http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph
>>    
>>
>
>I'd also like to ask the prevailing opinion on what the licensing
>difference would be if (graph library X) were an external dependency. 
>
>I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of
>course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks
>of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but
>now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
>distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.
>  
>

This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the 
vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything 
there.  Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water.  I don't think 
this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues.

>Let vtiger worry about its own GPL license only. Let the distro
>maintainers, and user-administrator decide if vtigercrm and
>well-specified prerequisites are compatible with their free-software
>policies.
>  
>
Hold on here.

Vtiger code is VPL (modified MPL) and forked SPL (borked MPL) code.  
There are several modules that are other licenses.

Nowhere is the vtiger core GPL AFAIK.  I'm pushing to find ways to make 
added files licensed under the LGPL, but haven't gotten very far on that 
so far...

Vtiger team, please stop using the VPL and relicense vtiger code under 
LGPL *only*.


From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 14:46:48 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:46:48 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
References: 
	
	<4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>
	<200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: 

Fathi BOUDRA wrote:
> regarding last jeff post:
> Image_graph v0.7.1 is in debian (php-image-graph)
> 
> debian/ubuntu package are on their way to drop :
> * adodb
> * squirrelmail
> * phpsysinfo
> 
> and use distribution package.

Is there a generally applicable idiom to check the existence and version
number of PHP libraries, much like we do for the gd extension (meaning C
extension, I presume):

   "2.0") { ... }

If so, it would be great to put those in a concise script that is called
by 1checkSystem.php.

This would make it easier to update external
dependencies (without mucking with the PHP templates), and also to
inventory dependency requirements for distro packagers.



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 15:07:27 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 21:07:27 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042107.27158.fboudra@free.fr>

> Vtiger code is VPL (modified MPL) and forked SPL (borked MPL) code.
> There are several modules that are other licenses.
>
> Nowhere is the vtiger core GPL AFAIK.  I'm pushing to find ways to make
> added files licensed under the LGPL, but haven't gotten very far on that
> so far...
>
> Vtiger team, please stop using the VPL and relicense vtiger code under
> LGPL *only*.

seconded on this way.

MPL is considered by some people a "not so free license".
from my point of view, SPL/VPL must be avoided.

At the begining, i searched for a crm software and found sugar.
Drop it in favor of vtigercrm, because of licensing issues.
some people tells me: v5.x will be LGPL.

I already asked about clarification :
http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2006-February/000102.html

no reply ...

cheers,

Fathi


From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 15:22:09 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 21:22:09 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 20:41, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?:
> >I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of
> >course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks
> >of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but
> >now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
> >distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.
> > ?
>
> This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the
> vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything
> there. ?Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water. ?I don't think
> this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues.

from the beginning, there's architectural problem to keep our own copies of 
softwares inside vtigercrm. We must deal with all licenses problem.

We must focus on vigercrm code only and integration with external 
dependencies. Yes, it's only dependencies and not vtigercrm core code.
These 3rd party software must be packaged correctly by packagers, it's their 
job.

vtigercrm really need code cleanup, and a modular view of vtigercrm 
"distribution".



From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 16:17:01 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 22:17:01 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	
	<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com> <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: 

On 3/4/06, Fathi BOUDRA  wrote:
>
> Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 20:41, Mike Fedyk a ?crit:
> > >I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking,
> of
> > >course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private
> snapshots/forks
> > >of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades,
> but
> > >now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
> > >distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.
> > >
> >
> > This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the
> > vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything
> > there. Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water. I don't think
> > this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues.
>
> from the beginning, there's architectural problem to keep our own copies
> of
> softwares inside vtigercrm. We must deal with all licenses problem.
>
> We must focus on vigercrm code only and integration with external
> dependencies. Yes, it's only dependencies and not vtigercrm core code.
> These 3rd party software must be packaged correctly by packagers, it's
> their
> job.
>
> vtigercrm really need code cleanup, and a modular view of vtigercrm
> "distribution".
>


I agree in 100%

at this moment I modularized:

- adodb
- libphp-log4php

and work on:

- squirrelmail
- phpsysinfo
- xtemplate
- tutos

and think about:

- phpBB
- fpdf
- phpmail


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From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 17:11:44 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:11:44 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
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Another question - who and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or remove it
completely?


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From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 17:22:23 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:22:23 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
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References: 
	
	
Message-ID: <200603042322.23411.fboudra@free.fr>

> Another question - who

vtiger maintenance team

> and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or remove it completely ?

scheduled for 4.2.5. We're short in time for 4.2.4.
that can be trivial, but tests are a requirement.

but i'm not 4.2.4 release manager so i prefer mike or matt official 
confirmation.

feel free to submit patch on the ticket that i'll create in some minutes.

cheers,

Fathi


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 17:23:35 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:23:35 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
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	<200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>	
	
Message-ID: <440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>

What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3?  If jgraph is newer than 1.5.2 then 
we're already in violation so leave the current version of jgraph in 
4.2.4 and then we can use 1.5.2 or another replacement in vtiger 4.2.5. 

If vtiger 4.2.3 had 1.5.2 or earlier, then we should just revert and put 
in the replacement when someone has done the patch.

Marcin Antczak wrote:
> Another question - who and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or 
> remove it completely?
>
>
> Marcin
>
>
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From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 17:33:06 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:33:06 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
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Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:23, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?:
> What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3 ?

1.20.3 ...

opened:
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 17:34:34 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:34:34 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr>
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	<440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>
	<200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr>
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Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:33, Fathi BOUDRA a ?crit?:
> Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:23, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?:
> > What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3 ?
>
> 1.20.3 ...
>
> opened:
> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58
> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58

typo error :
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/59



From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Sun Mar  5 05:23:56 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:23:56 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Support of MySQL 5 in 4.1 version
Message-ID: 

Hi all,

 

Pursuing my efforts on database compatibility, find joined somme patches
allowing support of MySQL 5.0. Something remarqable to notice is that most
of the changes have the same origin than those for mssql or postgres
support.

 

It also lights up some defects in vtiger database schema, that could help to
solve some issues in current versions.

 

These patches are made to keep compatibility with previous versions of
MySQL. They have been tested with MySQL 4.1.16 (limited test according to
the time I have).

 

Requirements :

upgrade to last version of AXMLS package (1.0.2 include MySQL 5 support) in
adodb directory

patch to adodb-datadict.inc.php to solve MySQL 5.0 bug with default value of
TIMESTAMP fields.

 

CONFIG :

PHP 5.1.2

MySQL 5.0.18

 

ABSTRACT

 

DatabaseSchema :

ON DELETE CASCADE -> ON DELETE NO ACTION (already documented)

change cvcolumnlist index (primary key not unique)

change selectcolumn index (primary key not unique)

change relcriteria index (primary key not unique)

change faqcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing default
value)

change ticketcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing
default value)

 

Utils :

getDBInsertDateValue change empty date ('--') -> '0000-00-00'

replace contact list query joins according to SQL standards

 

CRMEntity, LoginHistory, PopulateComboValues, PopulateReports:

replace default field value from "''" to "DEFAULT"

 

Security :

replace default field value from "''" to "NULL" in Tab INSERT query

 

COMMENTS

 

Database schema, primary key not unique

 

CREATE of cvcolumnlist :
columnindexType=InnoDB
is changed to : cvidcolumnindex columnindexType=InnoDB
cvid is not unique, several columns for same customview TIMESTAMP default values There is probably a bug in MySQL 5.0. CREATE TABLE DATETIME NOT NULL is supposed to default to CURRENT_TIMESTAMP but it doesn't. DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP and DATETIME DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP are not accepted That is the reason of the patch in adodb-datadict.inc.php, it generates : DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT '0000-00-00 00:00:00' which is accepted. Note : I have probably forgotten some clauses in XML schema. Hope this will help in building a more opened software. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/d6524d45/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Patches-4.2.4-MySQL5.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 5188 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/d6524d45/attachment.bin From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Sun Mar 5 05:30:25 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:30:25 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008301c6403f$d0ff2fe0$0a64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hi there, I will have to agree that we shouldn't use technology for technology's sake. Being part of a company that has an entire division that focuses on fixing and solving user interfacing issues, I would have to agree wholeheartedly that doing something just "because we can ("tech superior") and the others are losers (ie. The rest of the world) if they still use IE, the inferior browser which has over 90% of the market but it still cannot beat us, the Firefox elite" is not going to bring a technically superior product to the masses. The concept of working on opensource is great, but to make something that the masses will use, we would have to understand that the success of any good software lies on being as simple and idiot-proof as possible to use/install. PS. Sorry for contributing only now, my usability team and I have been tied up with projects all the way till May. -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Sergio A. Kessler Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:09 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised 1. I don't use IE. 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. /sak On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > >saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two > >vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... > > > >I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website > >within a website"... > > > >look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about... > > > >see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a > >"page" has been broken... > > > >"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, > >since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. > >Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that > >doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their > >way around a website or finding the content they wanted." > > > >what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, > >jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: > >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html > > > > > >it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see > >what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I > >rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling > >the graph part (which is not what I want) > > > > > >/sak > >(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability. > > > > > I'm sorry but I completely disagree. > > Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with > the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the > concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. > > And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll > the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of > IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in > Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! http://zohowriter.com/?vt From saint at vtiger.com Sun Mar 5 03:14:51 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:44:51 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> Message-ID: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module with non-div layout. The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the *Show All Modules*, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables of records as usual. We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? - Saint Brian Devendorf wrote: >I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. > > >On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > >>1. I don't use IE. >> >>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >> >>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >> >> >>/sak >> >>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >> >>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>>>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >>>> >>>>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>>>within a website"... >>>> >>>>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>>>about... >>>> >>>>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>>>of a >>>>"page" has been broken... >>>> >>>>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>>>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>>>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>>>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>>>their >>>>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >>>> >>>>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>>>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>>>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >>>> >>>> >>>>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>>>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>>>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>>>the graph part (which is not what I want) >>>> >>>> >>>>/sak >>>>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>>>usability. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >>> >>>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >>> >>>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>>scroll >>>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>>because of >>>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>>and in >>>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/522932b2/attachment.html From fboudra at free.fr Sun Mar 5 06:44:08 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:44:08 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Support of MySQL 5 in 4.1 version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603051244.09107.fboudra@free.fr> thanks michel, i'll add your patch to ticket 43: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/43 cheers, Fathi Le Dimanche 5 Mars 2006 11:23, Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit?: > Hi all, > > > > Pursuing my efforts on database compatibility, find joined somme patches > allowing support of MySQL 5.0. Something remarqable to notice is that most > of the changes have the same origin than those for mssql or postgres > support. > > > > It also lights up some defects in vtiger database schema, that could help > to solve some issues in current versions. > > > > These patches are made to keep compatibility with previous versions of > MySQL. They have been tested with MySQL 4.1.16 (limited test according to > the time I have). > > > > Requirements : > > upgrade to last version of AXMLS package (1.0.2 include MySQL 5 support) in > adodb directory > > patch to adodb-datadict.inc.php to solve MySQL 5.0 bug with default value > of TIMESTAMP fields. > > > > CONFIG : > > PHP 5.1.2 > > MySQL 5.0.18 > > > > ABSTRACT > > > > DatabaseSchema : > > ON DELETE CASCADE -> ON DELETE NO ACTION (already documented) > > change cvcolumnlist index (primary key not unique) > > change selectcolumn index (primary key not unique) > > change relcriteria index (primary key not unique) > > change faqcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing default > value) > > change ticketcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing > default value) > > > > Utils : > > getDBInsertDateValue change empty date ('--') -> '0000-00-00' > > replace contact list query joins according to SQL standards > > > > CRMEntity, LoginHistory, PopulateComboValues, PopulateReports: > > replace default field value from "''" to "DEFAULT" > > > > Security : > > replace default field value from "''" to "NULL" in Tab INSERT query > > > > COMMENTS > > > > Database schema, primary key not unique > > > > CREATE of cvcolumnlist : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > columnindex > > > > Type=InnoDB > > > >
> > > > is changed to : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cvid > > columnindex > > > > > > columnindex > > > > Type=InnoDB > > > >
> > cvid is not unique, several columns for same customview > > > > TIMESTAMP default values > > > > There is probably a bug in MySQL 5.0. > > > > CREATE TABLE > > DATETIME NOT NULL > > > > is supposed to default to CURRENT_TIMESTAMP but it doesn't. > > > > DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP > > and > > DATETIME DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP > > are not accepted > > > > That is the reason of the patch in adodb-datadict.inc.php, it generates : > > > > DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT '0000-00-00 00:00:00' > > > > which is accepted. > > Note : I have probably forgotten some clauses in XML > schema. > > > > Hope this will help in building a more opened software. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Sun Mar 5 16:43:56 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:43:56 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <440B5B9C.5080403@mikefedyk.com> Sounds good, but a workable middle-ground can be to have only one area in At-a-Glance will be scrollable. This way you can show everything you want, with the tabs always visible but only one part of the page can scroll. Saint wrote: > After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions > about using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. > > For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one > module with non-div layout. > > The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs > in 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. > > The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in > the *Show All Modules*, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. > Though this actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs > from eye-sight) it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching > the page top. Clicking the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top > Leads etc will list the tables of records as usual. > > We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. > Depending on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. > > So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? > > - Saint > > > > > > Brian Devendorf wrote: > >>I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >>not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >>was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >>(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >>two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >>screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >>rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >>small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. >> >> >>On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >>>1. I don't use IE. >>> >>>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >>> >>>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >>> >>> >>>/sak >>> >>>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>>>>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >>>>> >>>>>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>>>>within a website"... >>>>> >>>>>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>>>>about... >>>>> >>>>>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>>>>of a >>>>>"page" has been broken... >>>>> >>>>>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>>>>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>>>>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>>>>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>>>>their >>>>>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >>>>> >>>>>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>>>>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>>>>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>>>>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>>>>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>>>>the graph part (which is not what I want) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>/sak >>>>>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>>>>usability. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >>>> >>>>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>>>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>>>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >>>> >>>>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>>>scroll >>>>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>>>because of >>>>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>>>and in >>>>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>>Writer for FREE instead! >>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > From andre at dreamlab.net Mon Mar 6 05:01:25 2006 From: andre at dreamlab.net (andre at dreamlab.net) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:01:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP support in 5.0 Message-ID: <23469.138.190.15.46.1141639285.squirrel@mailer.dreamlab.net> Hello, I tried to use LDAP as user database backend, but it didn't really work out. I read that the LDAP patches are included, however, some files are missing (authTypes/LDAP.php). But adding those files doesn't really help neither. What is the state of the LDAP integration ? Is there a recent howto or description somewhere ? regards andr? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 05:32:17 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:32:17 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How to stream data directly to database without reading entire file into memory? Message-ID: <440C0FB1.3060205@mikefedyk.com> Hi all, I'm having an issue with the upload code. It reads the entire file into memory and base64 encodes it before sending it to the database. It fails storing a 5MB file with a 32MB memory limit. I looked through the adodb docs and thought I found a solution with UpdateBlobFile, but it reads the entire file into memory also. Searching through google didn't turn anything up for php, I found a few things for VB or .net but that won't help us here. Anyone have a solution? From sergiokessler at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 08:29:44 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 10:29:44 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> hi saint, I don't have a problem with this, but let me point that this is not a new experiment. for a unknow reasons many humans believe they are the first to do what they do, but in fact what they are doing has been tryed many moons ago... and many times has been also analyzed many moons ago... it happens to me in programming every time, when I'am confronted with a problem, my first reaction is "well, I can't be the only one with this problem, sure this problem has been raised before and solved before by someone else" so, instead of wasting my time trying to invent something already invented, I just focus my energy in searching for the available solution. and in my many years of programming I never invented something new :-) and this is exactly what I'm trying to tell you, don't be fooled thinking the problem you face rigth now, is something new to the usability of web systems. you are *not* the first to face this problem, in fact this problem has been raised, studied and analyzed many time ago (it comes from the frames era) and has been the subject of many people specialized in the field of web usability. yes, you can experiment with this problem, I don't have any problem with that, but what you are doing is nothing new. /sak ps: "(you lose the top tabs from eye-sight)" this is not a problem, it happens on almost every site. ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the whole page. On 3/5/06, Saint wrote: > After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about > using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. > > For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module > with non-div layout. > > The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in > 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. > > The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the > Show All Modules, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this > actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) > it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking > the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables > of records as usual. > > We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending > on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. > > So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? > > - Saint > > > > > > > Brian Devendorf wrote: > I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should > not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I > was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels > (guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with > two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" > screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels > rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a > small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. > > > On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > > 1. I don't use IE. > > 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the > vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). > > 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple > scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. > > > /sak > > On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > > saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two > vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... > > I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website > within a website"... > > look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking > about... > > see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept > of a > "page" has been broken... > > "The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, > since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. > Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that > doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding > their > way around a website or finding the content they wanted." > > what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, > jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: > http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html > > > it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see > what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I > rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling > the graph part (which is not what I want) > > > /sak > (*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web > usability. > > > > I'm sorry but I completely disagree. > > Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with > the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the > concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. > > And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't > scroll > the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is > because of > IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox > and in > Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still > using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the > AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho > Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > From libregeek at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 09:03:30 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:33:30 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Module Management Message-ID: <2315046d0603060603i420615d9x@mail.gmail.com> Hello vtiger team, Sorry for cross-posting, earlier I have posted the same thread in Vtiger Forums. I had experimented with dotproject for more than a year and the most striking feature I noticed about dotproject is the module management. In dotproject the mosules can be added and configured from the web-interface and most of them are independent. so we can easily move them off. This gives both site admins and developers much more flexibility and freedom. IMHO, some modules may be identified as core modules and they should be included by default. All other modules may be installed and used at the site admin's descretion. In this way we can avoid some of the modules like Shoutbox, dashboard if it's not required. This also enhance the development of more independent modules/plugins. It will also reduce the tasks of the core developers integrating the new modules. This has more significance now, because vtiger is moving on to new vtigerforge.com and this will also lead to the gradual development of vtigerCRM API. Like to hear from the developers in this regard. TIA Manilal From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 6 10:23:39 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:23:39 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available In-Reply-To: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com> References: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <200603061623.39881.fboudra@free.fr> > Hi Developers, > > The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following > location http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe > > Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as > there was execption during installation. > > Regards, > Rajkumar i looked at your changes as there's a related commit today (r4057) and tested installshield based installer. Installation works fine, but there's some mistake like config.template.php is broken. In htdocs\vtigerCRM dir, config.inc.php and config.template are identical. You re-introduced APACHE and MYSQL parameters, to fix installshield based installer : $mysql_dir = 'MYSQLINSTALLDIR'; $mysql_bundled = 'MYSQLBUNDLEDSTATUS'; $apache_dir = 'APACHEINSTALLDIR'; $apache_bin = 'APACHEBIN'; $apache_conf = 'APACHECONF'; $apache_port = 'APACHEPORT'; $apache_bundled = 'APACHEBUNDLED'; Do you continue to provide installshield based installer for future release or as already proposed, switch to vtigercrm addon for xampp (using nsis installer) ? $root_directory and all related dirs (like $cache_dir) are wrong, must be variables. In previous revision, we've got "_VT_*" You re-introduced version in database name: $db_name = 'vtigercrm4_2_4'; i removed it previously, because we didn't need to have a different database name for each release, and if we want a database versioning, please not in database name. Finally, you fixed installshield based installer but source installer is broken. cheers, Fathi PS: i didn't find any zip with the fixes sent to the mailing list. From saint at vtiger.com Mon Mar 6 10:09:44 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:39:44 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440C50B8.6090601@vtiger.com> Sak, I agree. There may be a solution out there. I will look into the usability resources and find out :-) cheers, Saint Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >hi saint, > >I don't have a problem with this, but let me point that this is not a >new experiment. > >for a unknow reasons many humans believe they are the first to do what >they do, but in fact what they are doing has been tryed many moons >ago... and many times has been also analyzed many moons ago... > >it happens to me in programming every time, when I'am confronted with >a problem, my first reaction is "well, I can't be the only one with >this problem, sure this problem has been raised before and solved >before by someone else" >so, instead of wasting my time trying to invent something already >invented, I just focus my energy in searching for the available >solution. >and in my many years of programming I never invented something new :-) > >and this is exactly what I'm trying to tell you, >don't be fooled thinking the problem you face rigth now, is something >new to the usability of web systems. > >you are *not* the first to face this problem, in fact this problem has >been raised, studied and analyzed many time ago (it comes from the >frames era) >and has been the subject of many people specialized in the field of >web usability. > >yes, you can experiment with this problem, I don't have any problem >with that, but what you are doing is nothing new. > > >/sak >ps: "(you lose the top tabs from eye-sight)" this is not a problem, it >happens on almost every site. >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the >whole page. > > >On 3/5/06, Saint wrote: > > >> After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about >>using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. >> >> For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module >>with non-div layout. >> >> The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in >>2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. >> >> The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the >>Show All Modules, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this >>actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) >>it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking >>the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables >>of records as usual. >> >> We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending >>on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. >> >> So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? >> >> - Saint >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Brian Devendorf wrote: >> I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >>not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >>was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >>(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >>two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >>screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >>rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >>small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. >> >> >>On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >> 1. I don't use IE. >> >>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >> >>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >> >> >>/sak >> >>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >> >> Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >> saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >> >>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>within a website"... >> >>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>about... >> >>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>of a >>"page" has been broken... >> >>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>their >>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >> >>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >> >> >>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>the graph part (which is not what I want) >> >> >>/sak >>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>usability. >> >> >> >> I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >> >>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >> >>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>scroll >>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>because of >>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>and in >>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >> >> _______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your >>desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, >>collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your >>desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, >>collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060306/134a19fa/attachment.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 14:43:09 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 11:43:09 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigercrm 4.2.4rc2 build available In-Reply-To: <109d03d4868.1918216477718176054.8073463117345362115@@vtiger.com> References: <109d03d4868.1918216477718176054.8073463117345362115@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <440C90CD.7040809@mikefedyk.com> Posted in forum. Let's see what they find... Philip wrote: > Hi Developers, > > The exe and bin version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 is available in the following location > > http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.bin > http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.exe > > Regards, > Philip > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 16:03:54 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:03:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the >whole page. > Good. The less printing the better. ;) From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 16:16:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:16:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4057 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: config.template.php install/2setConfig.php In-Reply-To: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> First of all, did you even look at the diff before committing?! >Author: saraj >Date: Mon Mar 6 06:20:40 2006 >New Revision: 4057 > >Log: >changes made to support multiple packaging > >Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/config.template.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php > > > Checking differences without reporting white space: diff -uw config.template.php.r4056 config.template.php.r4057 >Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/config.template.php >--- config.template.php.r4056 2006-03-06 12:01:28.000000000 -0800 >+++ config.template.php.r4057 2006-03-06 12:01:40.000000000 -0800 >@@ -1,17 +1,17 @@ > /********************************************************************************* >- * The contents of this file are subject to the SugarCRM Public License Version 1.1.2 >- * ("License"); You may not use this file except in compliance with the >- * License. You may obtain a copy of the License at http://www.sugarcrm.com/SPL >- * Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" basis, >- * WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License for >- * the specific language governing rights and limitations under the License. >- * The Original Code is: SugarCRM Open Source >- * The Initial Developer of the Original Code is SugarCRM, Inc. >- * Portions created by SugarCRM are Copyright (C) SugarCRM, Inc.; >- * All Rights Reserved. >- * Contributor(s): ______________________________________. >-********************************************************************************/ >+3 * The contents of this file are subject to the SugarCRM Public License Version 1.1.2 >+4 * ("License"); You may not use this file except in compliance with the >+5 * License. You may obtain a copy of the License at http://www.sugarcrm.com/SPL >+6 * Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" basis, >+7 * WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License for >+8 * the specific language governing rights and limitations under the License. >+9 * The Original Code is: SugarCRM Open Source >+10 * The Initial Developer of the Original Code is SugarCRM, Inc. >+11 * Portions created by SugarCRM are Copyright (C) SugarCRM, Inc.; >+12 * All Rights Reserved. >+13 * Contributor(s): ______________________________________. >+14 ********************************************************************************/ > > include('vtigerversion.php'); > >@@ -33,20 +33,30 @@ > $HELPDESK_SUPPORT_NAME = 'your-domain name'; > > /* database configuration >- db_server >- db_port >- db_hostname >- db_username >- db_password >- db_name >-*/ >+36 db_server >+37 db_port >+38 db_hostname >+39 db_username >+40 db_password >+41 db_name >+42 */ >+ $mysql_dir = 'MYSQLINSTALLDIR'; > > Oh goody! We have number prefixes now! > >+ $mysql_bundled = 'MYSQLBUNDLEDSTATUS'; > NO This is not used in the code and if the installer needs it, then have the installer make a file that keeps track of this info (or use the registry). > $dbconfig['db_server'] = '_DBC_SERVER_'; >-$dbconfig['db_port'] = ':_DBC_PORT_'; >-$dbconfig['db_username'] = '_DBC_USER_'; >-$dbconfig['db_password'] = '_DBC_PASS_'; > $dbconfig['db_name'] = '_DBC_NAME_'; > $dbconfig['db_type'] = '_DBC_TYPE_'; >+$apache_dir = 'APACHEINSTALLDIR'; >+$apache_bin = 'APACHEBIN'; >+$apache_conf = 'APACHECONF'; >+$apache_port = 'APACHEPORT'; >+ $apache_bundled = 'APACHEBUNDLED'; > Same here. Don't keep variables used for the installer in the vtiger source. >+ $dbconfig['db_username'] = '_DBC_USER_'; >+ $dbconfig['db_password'] = '_DBC_PASS_'; >+ $dbconfig['db_port'] = ':_DBC_PORT_'; >+ $mysql_username = '_DBC_USER_'; >+ $mysql_password = '_DBC_PASS_'; >+ $mysql_port = '_DBC_PORT_'; > You are now duplicating variables! > > // TODO: test if port is empty > // TODO: set db_hostname dependending on db_type >@@ -78,24 +88,24 @@ > $site_URL = '_SITE_URL_'; > > // root directory path >-$root_directory = '_VT_ROOTDIR_'; >+ $root_directory = 'C:\Program Files\vtigerCRM4.2.4\apache\htdocs\vtigerCRM/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // cache direcory path >-$cache_dir = '_VT_CACHEDIR_'; >+ $cache_dir = 'cache/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // tmp_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = images/ >-$tmp_dir = '_VT_TMPDIR_'; >+ $tmp_dir = 'cache/images/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // import_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = import/ >-$import_dir = '_VT_IMPORTDIR_'; >+ $import_dir = 'cache/import/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // upload_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = upload/ >-$upload_dir = '_VT_UPLOADDIR_'; >+ $upload_dir = 'cache/upload/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // mail server parameters >-$mail_server = '_MAIL_SERVER_'; >-$mail_server_username = '_MAIL_USERNAME_'; >-$mail_server_password = '_MAIL_PASSWORD_'; >+ $mail_server = ''; >+ $mail_server_username = ''; >+ $mail_server_password = ''; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. >Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php >============================================================================== >--- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php (original) >+++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php Mon Mar 6 06:20:40 2006 >@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ > $cache_dir = "cache/"; > > if (is_file("config.php") && is_file("config.inc.php")) { >- require_once("config.php"); >+ require_once("config.template.php"); > > Bad. config.template.php is not meant to be called from the code. It is only used by the installer. > session_start(); > > if(isset($upload_maxsize)) >@@ -100,10 +100,10 @@ > > if (isset($_REQUEST['db_name'])) > $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; >- elseif (isset($dbconfig['db_name'])) >+ elseif (isset($dbconfig['db_name']) && $dbconfig['db_name']!='_DBC_NAME_') > > Bad. The keywords are supposed to be replaced by the installer by search and replace. > $db_name = $dbconfig['db_name']; > else >- $db_name = 'vtigercrm'; >+ $db_name = 'vtigercrm4_2_4'; > > Bad. I see no reason to have the version in the database name. > > !isset($_REQUEST['db_drop_tables']) ? $db_drop_tables = "0" : $db_drop_tables = $_REQUEST['db_drop_tables']; > >@@ -143,7 +143,7 @@ > !isset($_REQUEST['db_username']) ? $db_username = $mysql_username : $db_username = $_REQUEST['db_username']; > !isset($_REQUEST['db_password']) ? $db_password= $mysql_password : $db_password = $_REQUEST['db_password']; > */ >- !isset($_REQUEST['db_name']) ? $db_name = "vtigercrm" : $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; >+ !isset($_REQUEST['db_name']) ? $db_name = "vtigercrm4_2_4" : $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; > > Bad. I see no reason to have the version in the database name. From larenas at internext.com.mx Tue Mar 7 06:36:00 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:36:00 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4057 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: config.template.php install/2setConfig.php In-Reply-To: <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> References: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <440D7020.8060308@internext.com.mx> Hi, somebody can help me, I dont know how register a deliver, i just can register accounts, customers, etc. From jamieinnh at gmail.com Tue Mar 7 16:18:04 2006 From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:18:04 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <994473020603071318h574b9df2g6ff89ece94324e02@mail.gmail.com> Here is an example in real life how a scroll bar within a browser, and how it distracts from the UI of the article. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11485858/ Something like this are things we should avoid when thinking about the UI in vTiger Jamie On 3/6/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the > >whole page. > > > Good. The less printing the better. ;) > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Le Mercredi 8 Mars 2006 16:37, vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com a ?crit : > Author: saraj > Date: Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 2006 > New Revision: 4079 > > Log: > changes made to point to install.php after installation > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php > =========================================================================== >=== --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 2006 > @@ -356,7 +356,7 @@ > } > > require_once('config.inc.php'); > -if (!isset($dbconfig['db_hostname'])) { > +if (!isset($dbconfig['db_hostname']) || > $dbconfig['db_status']=='_DB_STAT_') { header("Location: install.php"); > exit(); > } > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php > =========================================================================== >=== --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php (original) +++ > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 > 2006 @@ -158,6 +158,7 @@ > $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_SERVER_", $mail_server, $buffer); > $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_USERNAME_", $mail_server_username, > $buffer); $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_PASSWORD_", $mail_server_password, > $buffer); + $buffer = str_replace( "_DB_STAT_", "true", $buffer); > > fwrite($includeHandle, $buffer); > } > > > _______________________________________________ > vtigercrm-commits mailing list > vtigercrm-commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > http://lists.vtigercrm.com/mailman/listinfo/vtigercrm-commits From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 8 12:47:33 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:47:33 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please add me to your developer list In-Reply-To: <200603081506.k28F627L016309@vtigerforge.com> References: <200603081506.k28F627L016309@vtigerforge.com> Message-ID: <440F18B5.1040700@mikefedyk.com> You need to go to http://lists.vtigercrm.com to subscribe to the list. We can't do it for you. Information Team wrote: >Please add me to your developer list > >Many thanks > >Gary Mitchell > > > > >Phone: +44 (0) 870 490 1261 >Fax: +44 (0)871 661 7137 >Email: info at everydaysolutions.co.uk >Web: www.everydaysolutions.co.uk > >The information contained in this document is privileged information and is >intended for the personal and confidential use of the addressee only. If you >are not the intended recipient, any review, distribution or copying of this >document is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately and >delete the document from all computer systems. All title copyrights and >intellectual property rights in and attached to this email their content and >any copies thereof are owned by Everyday Solutions. All rights not >expressly granted are reserved by Everyday Solutions. > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From larenas at internext.com.mx Wed Mar 8 07:57:10 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:57:10 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME Message-ID: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers nothing. Help please. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 8 15:29:04 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:29:04 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> References: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <440F3E90.2080000@mikefedyk.com> Does this patch fix the problem? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers >nothing. > >Help please. >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From philip at vtiger.com Wed Mar 8 13:18:51 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:18:51 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Updated rc2 version - installation issues fixed Message-ID: <109db152c88.-8674574812899896242.64192681946233716@@vtiger.com> Hi Developers, The updated versions of exe and bin for vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 is available in the following location, installation fixes has been incorporated in the updated builds http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.bin http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.exe Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just call "php install.php" to do the database population and you're done. I also told Philip to copy config.template.php to config.inc.php thinking he was going to replace all keywords during the exe/bin installation so as soon as the exe/bin installer is finished,you can login to vtiger. But if you want to have the config.template.php file changed instead that's fine. -------------------------- final words, if you use source installer to finish installation, you can use the method "patch template". If you bypass source installer, i agree with mike, you can copy template to inc and do your add-in on it. 2 differents solutions to same problem. i'm for the solution where you do all installation stuff in installer without using source installer in "3rd party" package (i mean not source installer). cheers, Fathi From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Wed Mar 8 18:50:25 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 23:50:25 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Removing crmentity Message-ID: <86f04e340603081550j7072ebf1t8ca904480dc5a526@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, To delete one crmentity in vtiger php pages, it is "update crmentity set deleted = 1 where...", marking it as deleted (mark_deleted method) and all relationships: recurringevent, activity_reminder, ... are "delete from ...". (Delete.php in each module) But in vtigerolservice.php (vtiger5) the activities are only marked as deleted!... How about relationships ? My question is: why this kind of operations aren't centralized in entity class ? Create, Retrieve, Update, Delete... Best Regards, Juao -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060308/276a7f5c/attachment.html From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 9 07:18:27 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:18:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 Message-ID: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> Hi, Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Our feedback aren't listened ... just an example : database name versioning Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. we change/ you change game isn't funny ... best regards, Fathi From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 09:46:58 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:46:58 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 In-Reply-To: <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> References: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> Don't worry about it fathi. The binary installers never worked for shit before, and why should that change? There is a reason why I have recommended to everyone to use XAMPP 1.4.15 in the forums. Once we replace binary the installers this problem will be solved. Mike Fathi Boudra wrote: >>Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. >> >> > >Our feedback aren't listened ... >just an example : database name versioning > >Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. > >we change/ you change game isn't funny ... > >best regards, > >Fathi >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From andre at dreamlab.net Thu Mar 9 10:10:49 2006 From: andre at dreamlab.net (Andre Roth) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:10:49 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP Message-ID: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? Where can I find documentation about this ? Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on line 530 Thanks for your help Andr? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 12:19:23 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:19:23 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 In-Reply-To: <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> References: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <4410639B.1000105@mikefedyk.com> Hi everyone, Richie and I have discussed this issue, and agreed to spread this out over 4.2.4 and 4.2.5. A lot has been changed in the binary installers in a short time (including the build system to SVN) so I'm willing to accept it the way it is for the 4.2.4 release as long as everything works on all sides. That includes, the source installer, ubuntu/debian installer and linux/windows bin/exe installer. I think that is possible with the changes that have been made so far. Correct me if that isn't the case. After that we can spend the next ~4 weeks getting it ready for the 4.2.5 release. I hope we can all agree on this. I'm planning on making an 4.2.4rc3 release in the next few days with any installer fixes that are required, so any help in testing the installers for these previous states during install would be much appreciated. case1: no previous installation of mysql or apache. case2: no previous installation of mysql but apache is already installed. case3: previous installation of mysql but apache is not installed. case4: both apache and mysql already installed. Mike Mike Fedyk wrote: >Don't worry about it fathi. The binary installers never worked for shit >before, and why should that change? There is a reason why I have >recommended to everyone to use XAMPP 1.4.15 in the forums. Once we >replace binary the installers this problem will be solved. > >Mike > >Fathi Boudra wrote: > > > >>>Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Our feedback aren't listened ... >>just an example : database name versioning >> >>Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. >> >>we change/ you change game isn't funny ... >> >>best regards, >> >>Fathi >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From andre.roth at dreamlab.net Thu Mar 9 10:08:11 2006 From: andre.roth at dreamlab.net (Andre Roth) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:08:11 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP Message-ID: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? Where can I find documentation about this ? Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on line 530 Thanks for your help Andr? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060309/0d675a9a/attachment.bin From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 9 12:36:59 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:36:59 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 Message-ID: <109e015334f.-3220625800868453815.-2820986651640595013@@vtiger.com> Hi, I thought i have discussed about the feedback over the chat. Please see my reply below. Regarding Installation using bin or exe the database and apacheparameters are populated in the config.inc.php, the config.template.phpfile is not disturbed at any time. Copying config.template.php toconfig.inc.php and replacing all keywords during the exe/bininstallation has been handled. Other feedbacks which includes changing the hardcorded db values, andthe versioning were not taken up in this version as we are not sureabout the consequence and the impacts in changing the existing setup,but can be taken up with 4.2.5 after having a series of testing. Regards, Philip >Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. Our feedback aren't listened ... just an example : database name versioning Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. we change/ you change game isn't funny ... best regards, Fathi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Did you try the changes I referenced to in your other post? Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >I had ploblems with quotes module, but i resolve it changing save.php >file, but when i do it some other problems appears: > >*Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in >*/var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *445* >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 10:54:36 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:54:36 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module Message-ID: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> well, i try to say you what's my problem 1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. 2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you help me? * From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 18:02:41 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:02:41 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module In-Reply-To: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> References: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4410B411.3010100@mikefedyk.com> Sorry, I can't help you until you post the changes you made. Did you try the patch I pointed out to you? Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >well, i try to say you what's my problem > >1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it >not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. > >2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message >appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in >*/var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 > >i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you >help me? >* >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 11:30:23 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:30:23 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] More Information for my problem Message-ID: <4410581F.7040006@internext.com.mx> The error that happen is in the next function: **********************Function in data/PearDatabase.php********************** function query_result(&$result, $row, $col=0) { //$this->println("ADODB query_result r=".$row." c=".$col); not exist-------> $result->Move($row); $rowdata = $this->change_key_case($result->FetchRow()); //$this->println($rowdata); $coldata = $rowdata[$col]; //$this->println("ADODB query_result ". $coldata); return $coldata; } From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 11:47:51 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:47:51 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I send you the image of my problem Message-ID: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> Please see the image and help me -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it > not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. > > 2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message > appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in > */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 > > i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you > help me? > * > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > -- Dan Means Mission Viejo, CA www.dkmeansonline.com www.teamsrs.com From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 19:34:29 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:34:29 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP In-Reply-To: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4410C995.90109@mikefedyk.com> I don't think that is a very popular mod you're trying. Can you post the changes you have done and your environment like PHP, MySQL version, etc. Mike Andre Roth wrote: >Hello, > >I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. > >Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? >Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? >Where can I find documentation about this ? >Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? > >I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: > >Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object >in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on >line 530 > > >Thanks for your help > > Andr? > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From libregeek at gmail.com Fri Mar 10 00:52:51 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:22:51 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP In-Reply-To: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <2315046d0603092152y4e25f7ccv@mail.gmail.com> On 09/03/06, Andre Roth wrote: > > Hello, > > I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. > > Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? > Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? > Where can I find documentation about this ? > Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I followed the steps given below and it's working fine. http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=1689 regards Manilal From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Fri Mar 10 02:52:54 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:52:54 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I send you the image of my problem In-Reply-To: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> References: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <1141977175.5698.8.camel@linux.site> Just my 2 cents, this list is called vtigercrm-developpers. For free support you have vtiger forum. For enterprise class support you can contact vtiger. For Quotes, this is a tips, you can't create Quotes before having created a potential, no need to change save.php. May be your problem is more complex than explain, use the forum, you can have more answer. Thanks, Aissa Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 ? 17:47 +0100, Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas a ?crit : > Please see the image and help me > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From richie at vtiger.com Fri Mar 10 04:59:56 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:59:56 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Need volunteers for integrating 4.2.4 onwards fixes into 5.0 Message-ID: <109e3991dc8.5278160118441625590.4984050560728575825@@vtiger.com> Hello! I need help in porting the fixes from 4.2.4 onwards to 5.0. Those interested please let me know. To integrate the fixes means to peruse through all the changesets and pickup those that are required. This will basically mean that we have to go through n number of changesets. I am willing to listen to any smart ways to go ahead with this process. Please pitch in for help. Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060310/006a131a/attachment.html From mickie at vtiger.com Fri Mar 10 05:57:19 2006 From: mickie at vtiger.com (Mickie) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:57:19 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger Message-ID: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> Dear Team, I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 Migration with your help. so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration(Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 youcan see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so thiswill need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know ifyou have any other ideas to do this migration. In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to testthe migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2and for the new migration script). Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. Thanks & Regards Mickie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mickie wrote: > Dear Team, > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > Migration with your help. > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sat Mar 11 12:32:57 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:32:57 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Is somebody working on Image Graph? I have started some writing on Graph.php basis, here is a first result : It doesn't seem so much difficult to migrate, but documentation is very poor. So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be useful. TIA Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060311/984c3867/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be > useful. > > TIA > > Michel > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sat Mar 11 23:27:28 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:27:28 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <44134378.7070000@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Yes I do. There will be probably some minor changes in graph appearance but it can be done. What I have done on leads by sales stage graph does not require to change algorithm so it can be fast. Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk > Envoy??: samedi 11 mars 2006 22:39 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph > > This is great Michel! > > Do you think this can be done for all graphs in vtiger in the next few > weeks? If so we may be able to get this into 4.2.5. > > Mike > > Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > > > Is somebody working on Image Graph? > > > > I have started some writing on Graph.php basis, here is a first result : > > > > It doesn?t seem so much difficult to migrate, but documentation is > > very poor. So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be > > useful. > > > > TIA > > > > Michel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 13 01:27:13 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:27:13 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph Message-ID: Hi all, I think that result is not so bad on pipeline by sales stage, so . You cannot see it on the picture but targets and alts are working. Remaining 2 minor problems for which I have not been able to find a solution : The ticks on category axis cannot be placed correctly Not able to avoid grid lines to be foreground I will document the code as soon I release the replacing Charts.php. Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/da6a166e/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Anand From wildfire at progsoc.org Sun Mar 12 20:49:05 2006 From: wildfire at progsoc.org (Anand Kumria) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:49:05 +1100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] list not moderated References: <40110.3757824332$1141024115@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:08:05 -0800, Richie wrote: > Dear Team, > > The mailing list is not moderated anymore. > The moderation was removed quite a long time ago. Well the mailing list certainly claims to be at the moment. Anand From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 04:02:25 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:02:25 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] list not moderated In-Reply-To: References: <40110.3757824332$1141024115@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: <44153521.7030801@mikefedyk.com> Anand Kumria wrote: >On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:08:05 -0800, Richie wrote: > > > >>Dear Team, >> >>The mailing list is not moderated anymore. >>The moderation was removed quite a long time ago. >> >> > >Well the mailing list certainly claims to be at the moment. > > There is a list of people who can post unmoderated. Everyone else is moderated. Be good and you'll be added to the unmoderated list. ;) From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 13 04:20:16 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:20:16 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] repository location? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603131020.17105.fboudra@free.fr> > Hi, hi > According to and > subsequently , the > repository is available via Sourceforge CVS. > > Indeed, looking through the Sourceforge CVS browser you can see changes > made ~11 days ago for the 5.0 Alpha 2 release. > However according to various posts on this mailing list, information on > the repository is available from > . > Which one is correct? I'd certainly appreciate it if someone could fixup > the initial links if they are incorrect. Are they seperate trees? If so, > what is the relationship between them? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage is the correct one. cheers, Fathi From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 04:06:52 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:06:52 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] repository location? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4415362C.8010502@mikefedyk.com> We switched to SVN a few weeks ago. Use that. We're waiting for the vtiger core team to make some changes to the backend of vtiger.com before the wiki can be cleaned up. Anand Kumria wrote: >Hi, > >According to and >subsequently , the >repository is available via Sourceforge CVS. > >Indeed, looking through the Sourceforge CVS browser you can see changes >made ~11 days ago for the 5.0 Alpha 2 release. > >However according to various posts on this mailing list, information on >the repository is available from >. > >Which one is correct? I'd certainly appreciate it if someone could fixup >the initial links if they are incorrect. Are they seperate trees? If so, >what is the relationship between them? > >Thanks, >Anand > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 13 04:31:29 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:31:29 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Le Lundi 13 Mars 2006 07:27, Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit : > Hi all, hi michel > I think that result is not so bad on pipeline by sales stage, so . > You cannot see it on the picture but targets and alts are working. > Remaining 2 minor problems for which I have not been able to find a > solution > The ticks on category axis cannot be placed correctly > Not able to avoid grid lines to be foreground > I will document the code as soon I release the replacing Charts.php. i don't know if that can help you, this project use image_graph, and can be a source example : http://secureideas.sourceforge.net cheers, Fathi From mickie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 13 04:41:24 2006 From: mickie at vtiger.com (Mickie) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:41:24 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger In-Reply-To: <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> References: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <109f2fb3d66.-339647440922358887.-7786347594590860361@@vtiger.com> Hi Mike, Thanks for your suggestions. i agree. This sugar migration script should go into vtigerforge or cvs. we will checkin these files ASAP. Regarding the integration with import functions, as of now we canimport any other systems data through import option if that data is inCSV file. Generalizing the migration process means whether we want make thismigration script as general to all systems? how is this possible? Please excuse me if i am wrong and let me know some more informations. Thanks & Regards Mickie ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ---- Hi Mickie, I think this should either go into the vtigerforge or in the main source base. Maybe we should integrate this with the import functions. That would help with generalizing the migration process and allow migration from other systems than sugar also. Mickie wrote: > Dear Team, > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > Migration with your help. > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/787d9465/attachment.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 05:00:46 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:00:46 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger In-Reply-To: <109f2fb3d66.-339647440922358887.-7786347594590860361@@vtiger.com> References: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> <109f2fb3d66.-339647440922358887.-7786347594590860361@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <441542CE.7000900@mikefedyk.com> How do you import notes from csv? Mickie wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Thanks for your suggestions. > i agree. This sugar migration script should go into vtigerforge or > cvs. we will checkin these files ASAP. > > Regarding the integration with import functions, as of now we can > import any other systems data through import option if that data is in > CSV file. > Generalizing the migration process means whether we want make this > migration script as general to all systems? how is this possible? > Please excuse me if i am wrong and let me know some more informations. > > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > > > > ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ---- > > Hi Mickie, > > I think this should either go into the vtigerforge or in the main source > base. > > Maybe we should integrate this with the import functions. That would > help with generalizing the migration process and allow migration from > other systems than sugar also. > > Mickie wrote: > > > Dear Team, > > > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > > Migration with your help. > > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > > Thanks & Regards > > Mickie > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com Mon Mar 13 08:18:08 2006 From: mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com (Mike Crowe) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:18:08 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? Message-ID: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> Hi folks, I had finally had it, so I used phpCodeBeautifier to reformat all of the source in 4.2.4 and I'm very pleased. (http://www.waterproof.fr/products/phpCodeBeautifier/). However, as imagined, diff's are now screwed up, mainly because of 1 issue: I like: if ( blah, blah ) { /// } I can only get phpCB to do: if ( blah, blah ) { //// } I've attached main index.php for you to see. Are you interested in applying to trunk? Cheers! Mike Yahoo: mikecrowe MSNM: mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com Gmail: drmikecrowe at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Are you interested in > applying to trunk? seconded, not perfect but do a great job. we can probably change slightly formating rules to do add extra space after else statement ? : }elseif ( }else{ and if it's ok for all, update : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/CodingStyle according to phpcodebeautifier. From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 13 10:25:07 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:25:07 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi Fathi, Thanks a lot, I will have a look on it but I think that I have got some knowledge on Image Graph ans that I am going faster enough (here is the second one) : Half of the way done! Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra > Envoy? : lundi 13 mars 2006 10:31 > ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph > > hi michel > > i don't know if that can help you, this project use image_graph, and can > be a > source example : http://secureideas.sourceforge.net > > cheers, > > Fathi > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please feel free to pitch in your views. a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two different beasts. Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. To briefly mention our status over here :- We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we write, I will be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to integrate the required UIs esp that of the Security module. Kindly put forward your views so that together, we can make vtiger crm a better product, a better experience. Thank You, Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Additionally, there's the pain point of ensuring the PostgreSQL fixes don't break the existing MySQL support. If you have any recommendations around how you would like this to play out, please let me know. I have some time coming up where I could assist. Mike, let us know what you're thoughts are and we can proceed from there. Ideally, I think we should make the changes in one fell-swoop so that they're pulled into the mainline branch right away. Is there a window of 3 days, say 2 weeks from now, where we could do this? Regards, - Joel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those relationships from database. IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some other issues came up...). Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other modules are affected too... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Does this patch fix the problem? > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 > > Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > > >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > > > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers > >nothing. > > > >Help please. > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/852497aa/attachment.html From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 15:03:32 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:03:32 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <86f04e340603131203q9f3e079vd6f3db11af833b11@mail.gmail.com> Hello Joel, I use Zend Studio, mainly because his debugger. I would like to add this issue: * large amounts of commented code Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/13/06, Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately --mainly > because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice > there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 > of the following issues: > > * Undeclared variables > * Include headers reference files that don't exist > * Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > > Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean > this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a > profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance > out of it. > > Regards, > > - Joel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/877b0e22/attachment-0002.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 15:27:14 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:27:14 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415D5A2.3020407@mikefedyk.com> As soon as 4.2.4 releases, there will be a branch created for postgres support. 4.2.5 will move along, (I'm planning on one release per month) and the parts ready in the postgres branch will be merged. This avoids hurrying the postgres support and doesn't delay 4.2.5 if things don't go as planned. Mike Joel Rydbeck wrote: >Mike / Allan / Jeff, > >My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > >1. Allan has some major changes that will probably need to be checked in (last I saw was a delta for the 4.2.4 release). >2. I'd like to go through and make sure everything else is working. There are some nuances like quotation marks, and odd-spacing that break the SQL standard and thus PostgreSQL. >3. Jeff may be on-board for testing the PG side, but I haven't spoken with him for awhile. >4. Additionally, there's the pain point of ensuring the PostgreSQL fixes don't break the existing MySQL support. If you have any recommendations around how you would like this to play out, please let me know. I have some time coming up where I could assist. > >Mike, let us know what you're thoughts are and we can proceed from there. Ideally, I think we should make the changes in one fell-swoop so that they're pulled into the mainline branch right away. Is there a window of 3 days, say 2 weeks from now, where we could do this? > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 15:34:15 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:34:15 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when we're not preparing for a release.. Mike Joel Rydbeck wrote: >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 of the following issues: > >* Undeclared variables >* Include headers reference files that don't exist >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance out of it. > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 16:16:54 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:16:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> Someone on the forums addressed a bunch of the notice errors (sorry I don't recall who). I think most of the changes made it into 4.2.2 but I could be mistaken. Surprisingly (to me at least) cleaning up the notice errors offered a substantial speed increase. On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php > is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is > to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. > > I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when > we're not preparing for a release.. > > Mike > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 of the following issues: > > > >* Undeclared variables > >* Include headers reference files that don't exist > >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > > > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance out of it. > > > >Regards, > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From arodes at onweald.com Mon Mar 13 16:17:57 2006 From: arodes at onweald.com (Andrew Rodes) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:17:57 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603131149m50f51515oa6097d05f993a020@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> Try the patch with http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/51 I basically implemented the solution recommended a few weeks ago and submitted the patch with tic #51. I noticed that it appears this patch has not been rolled into the working branch at http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2/, but im not totally sure where the current release candidate code is. anyway .. try this patch and let us know what you found. In my testing, Quotes appeared to start working. during my testing with that patch. Also, I submitted bug 48, which I think may have a similar root cause as 51, but i have not had time to implement a fix. Andy Rodes Onweald _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Joao Oliveira Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:50 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME Hello, I've doing some tests today in vtiger, and quotes still doesn't work. The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those relationships from database. IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some other issues came up...). Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other modules are affected too... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: Does this patch fix the problem? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers >nothing. > >Help please. >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/33b07741/attachment.html From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 16:25:02 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:25:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? In-Reply-To: <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> I'd love to see the code reformatted. I agree with phpCB though it should be: if ( blah, blah ) { //// } ;p Anything that's consistent would be great though. The problem of course is you kind of mess up the repository checking in a bunch of changes like that. If it was done first thing after the 4.2.4 release it shouldn't effect anyone working off of SVN too badly but it would make patches created by users using the release more difficult to integrate. On 3/13/06, Fathi Boudra wrote: > > I've attached main index.php for you to see. Are you interested in > > applying to trunk? > > seconded, not perfect but do a great job. > > we can probably change slightly formating rules to do add extra space after > else statement ? : > }elseif ( > }else{ > > and if it's ok for all, update : > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/CodingStyle > > according to phpcodebeautifier. > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 16:39:41 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:39:41 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86f04e340603131339t4928ae36o2f034d2b0d48e4e@mail.gmail.com> i think it was Terry (aka tigerincanada) in this topic http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3529 On 3/13/06, Allan Bush wrote: > > Someone on the forums addressed a bunch of the notice errors (sorry I > don't recall who). I think most of the changes made it into 4.2.2 but > I could be mistaken. Surprisingly (to me at least) cleaning up the > notice errors offered a substantial speed increase. > > On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php > > is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is > > to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. > > > > I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when > > we're not preparing for a release.. > > > > Mike > > > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > > > >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately > --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, > I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc > results in 5-20 of the following issues: > > > > > >* Undeclared variables > > >* Include headers reference files that don't exist > > >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe > items > > > > > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean > this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a > profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance > out of it. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/067b256c/attachment-0002.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 16:57:36 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:57:36 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4415EAD0.3050709@mikefedyk.com> Allan Bush wrote: >I'd love to see the code reformatted. I agree with phpCB though it should be: > >if ( blah, blah ) { > //// >} > > >;p > > I like that formatting also, as long as it is with *tabs not spaces*. >Anything that's consistent would be great though. The problem of >course is you kind of mess up the repository checking in a bunch of >changes like that. If it was done first thing after the 4.2.4 release >it shouldn't effect anyone working off of SVN too badly but it would >make patches created by users using the release more difficult to >integrate. > I'd be willing to take formatting fixes on a per-file basis as long as the actual patch that does the reformatting doesn't included any non-formatting changes. I think reformatting the entire source tree would be a bad step at this point. But if you are making changes in a certain area, submit a formatting fix patch for that area and I'll take it. Mike From larenas at internext.com.mx Mon Mar 13 10:23:11 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:23:11 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! Message-ID: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> I can't create a sales order from quote registry, if i try create sale order in quotes view, i can view the order created but i can't save it. My version of vtiger: *Version: * 4.2 GA Mysql : 4.1 PHP: 4 APACHE: 2 an other question can you say me the url for csv stage 2? Thanks. From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 17:27:34 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:27:34 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> References: <86f04e340603131149m50f51515oa6097d05f993a020@mail.gmail.com> <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> Message-ID: <86f04e340603131427y48e20b48w6f941e633f6330e5@mail.gmail.com> Hello Andrew, With that patch I've successfully insert one quote in database. Thus, when i go to Quotes ListView php came up with the following error: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in * c:\inetpub\wwwroot\vtiger42\include\database\PearDatabase.php* on line *440 *The error happens in line 3146 of include/utils.php: ---- elseif($module == 'Quotes' && $name == 'Potential Name') { $potential_id = $adb->query_result($list_result,$i-1,"potentialid"); $potential_name = getPotentialName($potential_id); $value = ''.$potential_name.''; } ---- When vtiger try to call getPotentialName() and potentialid passed is null. This kind of troubles start to came up when we pass from '' to null... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira. On 3/13/06, Andrew Rodes wrote: > > Try the patch with http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/51 > > I basically implemented the solution recommended a few weeks ago and > submitted the patch with tic #51. I noticed that it appears this patch has > not been rolled into the working branch at > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2/, but im not > totally sure where the current release candidate code is. > > anyway .. try this patch and let us know what you found. In my testing, > Quotes appeared to start working. during my testing with that patch. > Also, I submitted bug 48, which I think may have a similar root cause as > 51, but i have not had time to implement a fix. > > > Andy Rodes > Onweald > > ------------------------------ > *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto: > vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *On Behalf Of *Joao > Oliveira > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2006 1:50 PM > *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME > > Hello, > > I've doing some tests today in vtiger, and quotes still doesn't work. > > The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: > > insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, > team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, > adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) > values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', > 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') > > when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the > generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. > > It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those > relationships from database. > IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to > insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some > other issues came up...). > > Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other > modules are affected too... > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira > > On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > > Does this patch fix the problem? > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 > > > > Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > > > > >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > > > > > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers > > >nothing. > > > > > >Help please. > > >_______________________________________________ > > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/e42168f8/attachment.html From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 17:50:46 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:50:46 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: Joel Rydbeck wrote: > Mike / Allan / Jeff, > > My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > would work best from a timeline for making the changes? The original idea was to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production instance on mysql. I propose the following: - Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough assent, IMO. - I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. - As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. Thoughts? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 18:00:37 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:00:37 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! In-Reply-To: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> References: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4415F995.3050906@mikefedyk.com> I suggest you look at the name of this list. You have been referred to patches that will help solve the bug you are encountering. This is the area for competent developers. We will point you in the right direction but not do the work for free. If you can't apply a patch, then I suggest you contact one of us privately for paid support and/or hosting. Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >I can't create a sales order from quote registry, if i try create sale >order in quotes view, i can view the order created but i can't save it. > >My version of vtiger: *Version: * 4.2 GA >Mysql : 4.1 >PHP: 4 >APACHE: 2 > >an other question can you say me the url for csv stage 2? > >Thanks. > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 18:04:34 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:04:34 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415FA82.50108@mikefedyk.com> I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. Mike Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >> >>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >> >> > >The original idea was to keep >vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it >could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >instance on mysql. > >I propose the following: > >- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >assent, IMO. > >- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in >sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity >of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity >on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. > >- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap >into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >Thoughts? > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 18:01:49 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:01:49 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> <4415EAD0.3050709@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > I think reformatting the entire source tree would be a bad step at this > point. Several subversion books have concurred that wholesale code beautification is a problem for concurrent developers, and historical diff viewing. The checkin is cake for the beautifier, but the next update/merge is hell for everyone with modified checkouts planning checkins of their own. The only way to mitigate is to announce a code freeze on a certain section of the repository, and ask that everyone clear out their working copies of queued commits. It should also happen at a low point of commit activity. I think our best opportunity would be to beautify *both* vtigercrm/trunk and vtigercrm/branches/4.2 right before the forward-port of 4.2 fixes to the trunk (testing to see that nothing has broken on either, of course). > I'd be willing to take formatting fixes on a per-file basis as long as > the actual patch that does the reformatting doesn't included any > non-formatting changes. Yes, per-file is probably the biggest whitespace cleanup chunk you can expect to be practical on any given commit, unless there is an agreed-upon repository freeze. P.S. It would be wise to do any code beautification only on vtigercrm modules proper, not any contained snapshot of third party code. From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com Mon Mar 13 18:49:39 2006 From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:49:39 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 Message-ID: Jeff / Mike / Allan, Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on this one. Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose ends. I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? Regards, - Joel -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fedyk Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. Mike Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >> >>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >> >> > >The original idea was to keep >vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it >could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >instance on mysql. > >I propose the following: > >- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >assent, IMO. > >- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in >sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity >of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity >on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. > >- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap >into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >Thoughts? > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 18:56:40 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:56:40 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> I'll help. :) One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines for better maintainability. Comments? Joel Rydbeck wrote: >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on >this one. > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose >ends. > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of >Mike Fedyk >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > >I like it. > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > >Mike > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >>> >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>The original idea was to keep >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that >> >> >it > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. >> >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >>instance on mysql. >> >>I propose the following: >> >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >>assent, IMO. >> >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration >> >> >in > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the >> >> >purity > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change >> >> >velocity > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX >> >> >status. > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can >> >> >bootstrap > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. >> >>Thoughts? >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> >> >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 19:00:16 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:00:16 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! In-Reply-To: <44159FD6.7090706@internext.com.mx> References: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> <4415F995.3050906@mikefedyk.com> <4415990B.2030000@internext.com.mx> <441600C2.2000603@mikefedyk.com> <44159FD6.7090706@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <44160790.10608@mikefedyk.com> Great! I'll add this to my list of patches to review. Mike Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > Well, if some body have problem with save sales orders trough qoute > module, i solve it do it: > > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > // New Lines HERE > if(empty($value)) > { > $value = 'null'; > } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 22:26:54 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:26:54 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415FA82.50108@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. The branch vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration is open for committers to integrate their postgresql support code. Please file tickets for as many identifiable postgresql issues as possible, we want to make it possible for the vtigercrm team to track this work on vtigercrm/trunk. I will merge any changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 into this branch, to keep the diff as small as possible and speed the eventual merge back to vtigercrm/branches/4.2. From allan.bush at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 20:31:51 2006 From: allan.bush at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:31:51 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> Yeah breaking the queries up into multiple lines would be a huge help when dealing with diff files and it improves readability (maybe we should come up with a query formatting guide to standardize when to break a line and how much to indent the next line) . I'm really busy today and maybe tomorrow but I can merge in a bunch of changes after that. On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > I'll help. :) > > One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no > more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines > for better maintainability. > > Comments? > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > > > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on > >this one. > > > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of > >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > > > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose > >ends. > > > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with > >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > > > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have > >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > > > >Regards, > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of > >Mike Fedyk > >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM > >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > > > >I like it. > > > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > > > >Mike > > > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > > > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, > >>> > >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>The original idea was to keep > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that > >> > >> > >it > > > > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into > >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >> > >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug > >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to > >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production > >>instance on mysql. > >> > >>I propose the following: > >> > >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start > >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough > >>assent, IMO. > >> > >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration > >> > >> > >in > > > > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to > >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the > >> > >> > >purity > > > > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by > >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change > >> > >> > >velocity > > > > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX > >> > >> > >status. > > > > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can > >> > >> > >bootstrap > > > > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I > >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its > >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into > >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >> > >>Thoughts? > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > >> > >> > >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Tue Mar 14 06:21:12 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:21:12 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi Mike, This is almost the best I can do for Pipeline by lead source with Image Graph : It is because Image Graph has no feature for 3D Pie. On the other hand, I consider that 3D pie is not an accurate graphic because each value is represented by an area and 3D perception is wrong. I had also to develop a color_generator function which generates an array of colours based on an algorithm. It is because theme feature is not supported by Image Graph. It could be a good idea to implement this kind of function in themes, each theme having its own colours. Michel PS: I think I will release a first version of Charts.php soon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/6b57b51c/attachment-0002.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 12516 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/6b57b51c/attachment.jpg From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 14 06:29:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:29:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 5.0 beta lockdown? In-Reply-To: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> References: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> Richie wrote: > Hello! > > We plan to release the Beta by the end of this month. > As I am running short of resources here, I would request some help. > Towards that end, I had a discussion with mmbrich and these are the salient > points that we discussed. Please feel free to pitch in your views. > > a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features That's good. Make sure you keep it up to date and if you make any changes to the lib, submit them upstream. > b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The > Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not > respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. > c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be > merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two > different beasts. This will require a full change in your work flow. Any meetings and communications done in your team will have to be done publicly so that your community deputies will be informed of things as they happen and why they happen. You'll need to make tickets for features, bugs etc. in trac and reference to them on your checkins so that a feature or bug fix that is spread over multiple checkins can be tracked easily. If you have deputies, they should be the only one making changes to their area of control. That means if Joe Bob developer is assigned the helpdesk module, even changes made by the core team should go through the deputy. > Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand > all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. > So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. This is very true. I think the easiest way to get there is to have your first deputies to be from the vtiger core team. Assign the various portions of the 5 source tree between your developers and have them send changes to each other and review each other's work. > > There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. > I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. It's up to you what versions you want to bundle with vtiger. Though using the newest version that works properly is probably the best way to go. So if vtiger 5 works with php5 and mysql5 use those. But if you can bundle php5.1 and vtiger 5 works well with it, then do that. > > To briefly mention our status over here :- > We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we > write, I will > be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that > the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. > As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to > integrate the > required UIs esp that of the Security module. What documentation system are you using? Mike From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 07:23:41 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:23:41 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> I always write queries like this: $query = << wrote: > Yeah breaking the queries up into multiple lines would be a huge help > when dealing with diff files and it improves readability (maybe we > should come up with a query formatting guide to standardize when to > break a line and how much to indent the next line) . > > I'm really busy today and maybe tomorrow but I can merge in a bunch of > changes after that. > > On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > I'll help. :) > > > > One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no > > more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines > > for better maintainability. > > > > Comments? > > > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > > > >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > > > > > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on > > >this one. > > > > > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of > > >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > > > > > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose > > >ends. > > > > > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with > > >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > > > > > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have > > >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > > >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of > > >Mike Fedyk > > >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM > > >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > > >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > > > > > >I like it. > > > > > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > > > > > >Mike > > > > > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, > > >>> > > >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > > >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > > >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>The original idea was to keep > > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that > > >> > > >> > > >it > > > > > > > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into > > >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > > >> > > >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug > > >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to > > >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production > > >>instance on mysql. > > >> > > >>I propose the following: > > >> > > >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from > > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start > > >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough > > >>assent, IMO. > > >> > > >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration > > >> > > >> > > >in > > > > > > > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to > > >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the > > >> > > >> > > >purity > > > > > > > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by > > >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change > > >> > > >> > > >velocity > > > > > > > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX > > >> > > >> > > >status. > > > > > > > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can > > >> > > >> > > >bootstrap > > > > > > > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I > > >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its > > >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into > > >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > > >> > > >>Thoughts? > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ From richie at vtiger.com Tue Mar 14 08:47:54 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:47:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 5.0 beta lockdown? In-Reply-To: <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> References: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <109f9034454.2909176754484923352.5784211372550577327@@vtiger.com> Hi! Thanks for the response. We currently use phpDocs for generating our API documentation. I will take your advice of having individual core members as deputies. We have already done that. Once the Beta is out, we will have a lot of bug-fixes coming in, at that time, it will be better to have some more deputies so that we are able to move faster and in sync. We will make the communication channels more open at that point in time. We intend to bundle php5 with mysql5 as of now. Richie ---- Mike Fedyk<mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote ---- Richie wrote: > Hello! > > We plan to release the Beta by the end of this month. > As I am running short of resources here, I would request some help. > Towards that end, I had a discussion with mmbrich and these are the salient > points that we discussed. Please feel free to pitch in your views. > > a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features That's good. Make sure you keep it up to date and if you make any changes to the lib, submit them upstream. > b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The > Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not > respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. > c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be > merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two > different beasts. This will require a full change in your work flow. Any meetings and communications done in your team will have to be done publicly so that your community deputies will be informed of things as they happen and why they happen. You'll need to make tickets for features, bugs etc. in trac and reference to them on your checkins so that a feature or bug fix that is spread over multiple checkins can be tracked easily. If you have deputies, they should be the only one making changes to their area of control. That means if Joe Bob developer is assigned the helpdesk module, even changes made by the core team should go through the deputy. > Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand > all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. > So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. This is very true. I think the easiest way to get there is to have your first deputies to be from the vtiger core team. Assign the various portions of the 5 source tree between your developers and have them send changes to each other and review each other's work. > > There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. > I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. It's up to you what versions you want to bundle with vtiger. Though using the newest version that works properly is probably the best way to go. So if vtiger 5 works with php5 and mysql5 use those. But if you can bundle php5.1 and vtiger 5 works well with it, then do that. > > To briefly mention our status over here :- > We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we > write, I will > be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that > the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. > As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to > integrate the > required UIs esp that of the Security module. What documentation system are you using? Mike _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/418b9aa9/attachment-0002.html From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 14 09:24:55 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:24:55 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > I always write queries like this: > > $query = << select > * > from > table1, > table2, > where > foo = ? > and > zeta = ? > group by > tita > order by > zeta > END; I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest and most diff-friendly, by far. I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that to the style standard? $query = << Message-ID: <015601c64781$253e7000$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> I would like to suggest one small change to the proposed change. I implemented the change Luis mentions verbatim several weeks ago, but it would insert the literal 'null' into ALL blank fields. I would recommend the following instead which adds a small check to see if the field is likely a foreign key. This is the code I submitted in the patch for quotes (tic 51). It appears Sales Orders has the same basic problem, so the fix should work here as well. > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; >> $match = stristr($fieldname,'id'); // adding this to try and set only foreign keys. we dont want ALL blank values set to null >> if(empty($value) && $match != '0') >> { >> $value = 'null'; >> } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } Andy Rodes arodes at onweald.com -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fedyk Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:00 PM To: Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! Great! I'll add this to my list of patches to review. Mike Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > Well, if some body have problem with save sales orders trough qoute > module, i solve it do it: > > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > // New Lines HERE > if(empty($value)) > { > $value = 'null'; > } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 11:53:36 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:53:36 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> I usually write queries in a slightly more compact format: $query = "SELECT FROM INNER JOIN ON WHERE AND GROUP BY ORDER BY "; The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > I always write queries like this: > > > > $query = << > select > > * > > from > > table1, > > table2, > > where > > foo = ? > > and > > zeta = ? > > group by > > tita > > order by > > zeta > > END; > > I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest > and most diff-friendly, by far. > > I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that > to the style standard? > > $query = << SELECT > * > FROM > table1, > table2, > WHERE > foo = ? > AND > zeta = ? > GROUP BY > tita > ORDER BY > zeta > END; > > +1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. > > Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and > each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin > message > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. 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If we had a monthly check-in, where all branches were brought together, release or no-release, it would allow for some of this code beautifying we're talking about as well as testing and keeping everything current so that we don't get stagnant branches. Thoughts? - Joel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nightly would be a bit frequent, but perhaps weekly or monthly. It would open the window for any testers out there to start writing automated tests for the app and put some rigor around our quality. I think in the long term it could help make Mike F's work easier and keep us moving forward more cohesively. > >If we had a monthly check-in, where all branches were brought together, release or no-release, it would allow for some of this code beautifying we're talking about as well as testing and keeping everything current so that we don't get stagnant branches. > >Thoughts? > >- Joel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 14 14:09:55 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:09:55 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/3775 This changeset shows the format I typically use. It puts major keywords at the beginning of the line and only uses indenting where it is needed -- typically when the parts related to the keyword are long. $query = "SELECT > FROM > INNER JOIN > ON > WHERE > AND > GROUP BY > ORDER BY "; > >The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely >a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in >one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't >wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. > >On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > >>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >>>I always write queries like this: >>> >>>$query = <<>> select >>> * >>> from >>> table1, >>> table2, >>> where >>> foo = ? >>> and >>> zeta = ? >>> group by >>> tita >>> order by >>> zeta >>>END; >>> >>> >>I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest >>and most diff-friendly, by far. >> >>I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that >>to the style standard? >> >> $query = <<> SELECT >> * >> FROM >> table1, >> table2, >> WHERE >> foo = ? >> AND >> zeta = ? >> GROUP BY >> tita >> ORDER BY >> zeta >> END; >> >>+1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. >> >>Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and >>each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin >>message >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From nolan at peaceworks.ca Tue Mar 14 18:57:43 2006 From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:57:43 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <44175877.70505@peaceworks.ca> My $.02... - YES YES YES to standardizing SQL queries! - capitalized keywords good! This alone makes a big difference! Yes to making this a part of the standard! - I generally do what Allan does, except I put SELECT FROM WHERE GROUP HAVING ORDER all at the same indentation - Indents identical to Allan's for INNER JOIN, ANDs/ORs for logical clauses - ...but so long as it's clear, I'm happy ...so the code beautifier doesn't do SQL? Mike Fedyk wrote: > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/3775 > > This changeset shows the format I typically use. It puts major keywords > at the beginning of the line and only uses indenting where it is needed > -- typically when the parts related to the keyword are long. > > $query = "SELECT >> FROM >> INNER JOIN >> ON >> WHERE >> AND >> GROUP BY >> ORDER BY "; >> >>The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely >>a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in >>one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't >>wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. >> >>On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >> >> >> >>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I always write queries like this: >>>> >>>>$query = <<>>> select >>>> * >>>> from >>>> table1, >>>> table2, >>>> where >>>> foo = ? >>>> and >>>> zeta = ? >>>> group by >>>> tita >>>> order by >>>> zeta >>>>END; >>>> >>>> >>> >>>I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest >>>and most diff-friendly, by far. >>> >>>I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that >>>to the style standard? >>> >>>$query = <<>> SELECT >>> * >>> FROM >>> table1, >>> table2, >>> WHERE >>> foo = ? >>> AND >>> zeta = ? >>> GROUP BY >>> tita >>> ORDER BY >>> zeta >>>END; >>> >>>+1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. >>> >>>Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and >>>each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin >>>message >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Wed Mar 15 11:32:28 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:32:28 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 2006 SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards Nominations Message-ID: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> Vote, vote, vote !!! http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards5.php http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php http://sourceforge.net/awards/cca/ Aissa From larenas at internext.com.mx Wed Mar 15 06:16:31 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:16:31 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] A toda la comunidad Latina que participe en esta lista. Message-ID: <4417F78F.6090103@internext.com.mx> Hola: Los invito a ponerse en conctacto con migo para que discutamos problemas sobre el Vtiger en nuestro idioma. Gracias. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 15 15:44:10 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:44:10 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 2006 SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards Nominations In-Reply-To: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> References: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> Message-ID: <44187C9A.3070707@mikefedyk.com> Abos wrote: >Vote, vote, vote !!! >http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards5.php >http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php >http://sourceforge.net/awards/cca/ > > Voted. Alright Compiere, Java OSS Roc kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 5562 (jre50). OK, that's enough of that. ;) Go vTigerCRM! Or as jeff puts it: go vtigercrm ;) Mike From libregeek at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 03:22:08 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:52:08 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Documents for Vtiger Message-ID: <2315046d0603170022t50d012afp@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, Is there any developer documents for vtiger? I visited http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Vtiger_CRM_-_Developer_Guide , but seems that the document is empty. I wish to develop a module/extension for HR Mangement in vtigercrm. Kindly provide the documents or any resource regarding the above. regards Manilal From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Fri Mar 17 07:13:15 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:13:15 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Image Graph Message-ID: Hi all, Here joined a dashboard generated with image graph. Some details are to be tuned (dynamic ticks interval, bar width, .). I will post the source for Charts.php with some explanation before tonight (French time). Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060317/12a34f42/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DashboardImageGraph.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 251891 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060317/12a34f42/attachment.jpg From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Fri Mar 17 11:29:42 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:29:42 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Image Graph Message-ID: As announced the files needed to test Vtigercrm-4.2.4.rc2 - Image_Graph implementation. Installation : 1. Install Pear package if it is not already done 2. Install Image_Graph package with all its dependencies : Pear install -a Image_Graph-0.7.2 3. Override Charts.php in your vtigercrm/potentials folder (be sure to have a backup copy) 4. Apply the patches on Dashboard module files to suppress the test on php version. Things to do : 1. Compute the ticks interval according to the maximum axis value. 2. Try to dispose ticks on category axis as they where with jpgraph (if really needed). 3. Implement and beautify the colour generator algorithm (very basic actually). 4. Make it dependent on current theme (if everybody agree). 5. Test font-language implementation (I do not try it for Chinese or Czech). Comments : 1. In Charts.php I have only commented the replaced line. I know it is not "beautiful" (ref. Allan hobby) but it is for others to understand the changes. The lines will have to be suppressed in the official version. 2. If somebody looks at Image Graph examples, he will probably notice that graph layout uses the following syntax : $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title = Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',11)), Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea = Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'), $footer = Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)), 90 ), 5 ) or $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',11)), Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea =& Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'), $footer =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)), 90 ), 5 ) It works nice in a test program called directly but it doesn't in Charts.php. I have not found the explanation. The correct one is : $title =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',10)); $plotarea =& Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'); $footer =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)); $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title, Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea, $footer, 90 ), 5 ) 3. When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!). 4. I have also notice a refresh problem with IE6, due to png file in IE cache. If it is an IE problem I will at last migrate to Firefox (but it is not a solution). The program has been tested with PHP 5.1.2 If some volunteers want to test they are of course welcome. Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060317/68129c2d/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mike From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sun Mar 19 06:40:09 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:40:09 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Message-ID: The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!). See ticket : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Richie ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved :   3         When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!).   See ticket :   http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65   Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would like to have the mysql5 integration properly done before integrating PHP5 into the current vtiger crm5 builds.Once we do have PHP5 integrated, we will start fixing all these issues. ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved :   3         When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!).   See ticket :   http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65   Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060319/4d0049e5/attachment.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 05:29:02 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:29:02 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a16820983.1412508798428817900.-5004035387256997844%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: Hi Richie, Thanks to appreciate what I have done. There is no problem for me to work on version 5, I have already installed twice Alpha 2, one is running on classic install (PHP 4 + MySQL 4), the other one for debugging purpose with PHP 5 and MySQL 5.1. I have fixed installation process but have still a problem to solve with login. I am working on a larger project on CRM which requires integration of a Sync module (with ERP) and a Workflow module, but I think I can also work on charts. I am rather new on PHP (I am more fluent with Delphi and MsSQL) so I use this dev to learn more. Let me know how I can participate, do you have defined the outputs? Regards Michel _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:15 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Hi Michel! We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. I like what you have done. I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing to work on it please? You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working with ImageMaps. Thanks, Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/7181643d/attachment-0002.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 05:33:03 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:33:03 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a16840ad7.3864398727635444731.2037062845435905282%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: I know that and version 4.2.4rc2 is running with zend compatibility mode of PHP4. The problem I discuss here is linked to ADODB qstr function called by PearDatabase : function quote($string){ return ADOConnection::qstr($string); } Qstr function has several calls to $this->function, the use of $this is not allowed outside object context, so you get an error when you call : PearDatabase::quote($string); I changed it to $adb->quote($string); And it seems to work on all the functions I have tested, but I am not sure it is a good practice. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:18 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility PHP5 has a very different array handling behaviour. It passes arrays by reference. So, there will be major impacts in the code. Please do refer to my posts about cloning in the vtiger forums. I would like to have the mysql5 integration properly done before integrating PHP5 into the current vtiger crm5 builds.Once we do have PHP5 integrated, we will start fixing all these issues. ---- Michel JACQUEMES wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!). See ticket : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/4ca43431/attachment.html From werk at r2g.nl Mon Mar 20 08:08:36 2006 From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:08:36 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database Message-ID: Hi All, As newbe user of vtigercrm and starting programmer, I have been reading the forums and mailingslist archive. As vtigercrm grows, we all would like to see an easier structure to maintain, for example of the db. I have implemented vtigercrm on my isp with ssl for my own business ( I run a smal firm for system administrator ) and have done also on a Novell SBS for several of my clients. Looking at the tablestructure of vtigercrm we have 192 tables total! I wonder if prefix tables could be meaningfull, thinking of several possibilities: - If someone wants or must use only one database with several applications, say joomla cms and vtigercrm at an isp. - more seperation of db: on a 'per module' bases - another seperation of db: add-on/plugins with there own prefix - better version control of db, different prefix per version. >From above I suggest: .vti_ as default .vti_a_ for addon .vti_p_ for plugin .vti_{modulename}_ for module or with version control: .vti_424_ .vti_424_a .vti_424_p .vti_424_{modulename}_ It would also eas the use of future migration scripts as migration could be done in several layers. Best Regards, Remco Gerbrands From saint at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 09:29:02 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:59:02 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion Message-ID: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Folks.. Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all your inputs. For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) thanks, Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/bb8a6474/attachment-0002.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 20 10:06:45 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:06:45 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > Author: allanbush > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > New Revision: 4323 > > Log: > Added dummy sequence requests. > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > References ticket:17. > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > else > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, but if > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of tables that need it in the source? From sergiokessler at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 10:14:09 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:14:09 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> References: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> richie, do you (or anyone) have a url for this imageMaps code ? (my google search failed) On 3/20/06, Richie wrote: > Hi Michel! > > We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. > I like what you have done. > > I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing > to work on it please? > > You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working > with ImageMaps. > > Thanks, > Richie > > > > > ---- Michel JACQUEMES wrote ---- > > > > > The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : > > > > 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : > Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in > c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on > line 2380 > I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time > to investigate (help is welcome!). > > > > See ticket : > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 > > > > Michel > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From richie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 10:17:48 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:17:48 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10a183bba27.5706286486276782748.1632333412769303144@@vtiger.com> Hello Michel! Thanks for the response. I would very much like to see the changes that you have done on Alpha2 with the ImageGraphs. I would like you to handle the Dashboards part for vtiger CRM 5. I can give you checkin access to that module and you can make the changes and update the svn repository. We will test from here and get back to you with the results. That way, we can spot any issues early. Let me know if that is okay. ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- Hi Richie,   Thanks to appreciate what I have done.   There is no problem for me to work on version 5, I have already installed twice Alpha 2, one is running on classic install (PHP 4 + MySQL 4), the other one for debugging purpose with PHP 5 and MySQL 5.1. I have fixed installation process but have still a problem to solve with login.   I am working on a larger project on CRM which requires integration of a Sync module (with ERP) and a Workflow module, but I think I can also work on charts. I am rather new on PHP (I am more fluent with Delphi and MsSQL) so I use this dev to learn more.   Let me know how I can participate, do you have defined the outputs?   Regards   Michel   De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:15 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility   Hi Michel! We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. I like what you have done. I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing to work on it please? You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working with ImageMaps. Thanks, Richie _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/419598c5/attachment.html From richie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 10:25:26 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:25:26 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> References: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867@@vtiger.com> My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. Richie ---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ---- richie, do you (or anyone) have a url for this imageMaps code ? (my google search failed) On 3/20/06, Richie <richie at vtiger.com> wrote: > Hi Michel! > > We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. > I like what you have done. > > I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing > to work on it please? > > You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working > with ImageMaps. > > Thanks, > Richie > > > > > ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- > > > > > The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : > > > > 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : > Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in > c:\Inetpub\http://wwwrootvtigercrm-graphadodbadodb.inc.php on > line 2380 > I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time > to investigate (help is welcome!). > > > > See ticket : > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 > > > > Michel > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/df20d2b4/attachment-0002.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 12:43:19 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:43:19 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a183bba27.5706286486276782748.1632333412769303144%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: Hello Richie, I have not worked on Alpha2-Image_Graph but I am going to have a look. I was trying to test Alpha2 with MySql 5 but I have some problems with it. I forgot to mention that Image_Graph is actually a Beta version but it works fine. For the Dashboard, it is Ok for me. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:18 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Hello Michel! Thanks for the response. I would very much like to see the changes that you have done on Alpha2 with the ImageGraphs. I would like you to handle the Dashboards part for vtiger CRM 5. I can give you checkin access to that module and you can make the changes and update the svn repository. We will test from here and get back to you with the results. That way, we can spot any issues early. Let me know if that is okay. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/a5f844de/attachment.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 12:37:06 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:37:06 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: You can find it here : http://pear.php.net/packages.php?catpid=12 &catname=Images Package Image_Canvas is required. You can also find very useful informations at : http://pear.veggerby.dk/ If you want to download it, you have first to install Pear. Follow the doc, it is easy. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:25 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/da38b93f/attachment-0002.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 13:09:18 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:09:18 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, I don't understand the purpose of this. As far as it is installation, it is batch. So if there is a failure, simply drop the schema, create it and run again. Use of transaction during this step is not very important. If it is an upgrade, ask people to backup their base or do it by program. On the other hand, if the target is to implement Mysql 5 or Postgres, they support transactions. In that case I think something like : $db->StartTrans(); ... INSERT INTO $masterTable (id, field1,..) VALUES (DEFAULT,$val1,...) $masterID = $db->Insert_ID(); ... INSERT INTO $dependingTable (...,master_id,..) VALUES (...,$masterID,...) $ok = $db->CompleteTrans(); Is better Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk > Envoy??: lundi 20 mars 2006 16:07 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com; vtigercrm- > commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] > r4323 - > /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.p > hp > > vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > > Author: allanbush > > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > New Revision: 4323 > > > > Log: > > Added dummy sequence requests. > > > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it > during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after > the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in > the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > > > References ticket:17. > > > > Modified: > > > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p > > > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p > > > ========================================================================== > ==== > > --- > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p (original) > > +++ > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > > else > > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, > but if > > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); > Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of > tables that need it in the source? > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 13:51:39 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:51:39 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> References: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603201051l348995cdvf480911f46fb441a@mail.gmail.com> Not that I can see, any string could be used for the sequence it's totally up to the program code. I got this list by grepping trough the source and someone could create another simply by adding the line $id = $adb->getUniqueID("foo"); anywhere which would be pretty hard to detect. I'm open to ideas if someone else has any suggestions. On 3/20/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > > Author: allanbush > > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > New Revision: 4323 > > > > Log: > > Added dummy sequence requests. > > > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > > > References ticket:17. > > > > Modified: > > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > ============================================================================== > > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php (original) > > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > > else > > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, but if > > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); > Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of > tables that need it in the source? > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 15:03:29 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:03:29 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed Message-ID: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. If you want to help you'll need to check the postgres branch code out of SVN: svn co http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration then run through the installation process exactly like you would for a mysql installation. If you have both mysql and pgsql support in your php module then you'll have to select which you wish to use, if not it should be done for you automatically. Make sure to select the correct port for you database host it's probably localhost:5432 for most setups. In the default setup I've tweaked adodb to output to the browser any database errors encountered along with a backtrace of how the query was called. Because of this you'll notice a bunch of output about missing sequences during the table population process of the installation, these errors can be safely ignored as adodb automatically corrects them. What is needed is for testers to play around with this and find more database errors. If you encounter a problem the adodb debugging routine should output an error message to your browser page. Simply copy the error message (including the query and the backtrace) and file a bug added a short description of what you were trying to do at the time. I'm not sure what the best way to track these bugs is, ideally each one would be filed as a ticket in trac which blocks ticket #17, but I don't think trac supports meta bugs. Unfortunately I'm leaving town today and will be unavailable until Saturday but if people can help collect bug reports I'll get them fixed next weekend or some other developer may be able to fix some of them during the week. Thanks for all your help, Allan From justoff at hotmail.ru Tue Mar 21 04:33:27 2006 From: justoff at hotmail.ru (=?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz8jB?=) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:33:27 +0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-ready AlphabeticalSearch(); Message-ID: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> Hi all! Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. Improvements: 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) encoding. Or to use multiletter links. P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and criticism:) are welcome. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: include_utils.php.diff Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1097 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/0a4915b4/attachment.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from > all your inputs. > > For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page > (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and > contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what > you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts > about home page too. :-) > > > thanks, > Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/a469be1d/attachment.html From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 07:08:53 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:08:53 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com> how will this be integrated in the final release ? because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to execute command line commands to install stuff... I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible (because of restrictions on server) I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to put pear files there (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to take this files) btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! does image_graph output to SVG ? On 3/20/06, Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > > > > You can find it here : > > > > http://pear.php.net/packages.php?catpid=12&catname=Images > > > > Package Image_Canvas is required. > > > > You can also find very useful informations at : > > > > http://pear.veggerby.dk/ > > > > If you want to download it, you have first to install Pear. Follow the doc, > it is easy. > > > > > ________________________________ > > > De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] > De la part de Richie > > Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:25 > ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > > Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility > > > > > > > > My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working > with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the > posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the > forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. > > Richie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 07:14:18 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:14:18 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion In-Reply-To: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> References: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603210414h31cbdbt44c726b069250bcb@mail.gmail.com> saint, I can tell you what I *don't* want to see, but you already know that... ;-) /sak On 3/20/06, Saint wrote: > Folks.. > > Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home > page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all > your inputs. > > For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like > Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be > shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and > more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) > > > thanks, > Saint > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 09:43:25 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:43:25 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services Message-ID: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it only returns true or false... Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? for example... method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', 1); without any kind of authentication ... IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password each time one method is call. Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/62e30301/attachment-0002.html From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 13:35:03 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:35:03 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How To: merge changesets between branches Message-ID: I just merged our first change on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. Merging changes between branches: a) keeps the diff down for when you're ready to merge a branch back the other way (retiring the branch). b) is better than manually modifying your working copy to imitate a changeset and committing. It seems that this is the first use of the svn merge command in our fledgling repository, so I'll document how to do working-copy merges here for the benefit of others. We have a lot of merging to do between vtigercrm/branches/4.2 and vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1! (server side merges (between two rev-ranged URLS) are the ultimate for changeset-preserving history, but we can ease into that at some future date) The end result of the following steps is a tidy changeset with links to various items in trac: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4381 Step 1: Find the changeset you want to merge, on the trunk/branch it occurs: svn diff -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php =================================================================== --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4357) +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4358) @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ { $has_header = 1; } -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ { $datarows = $xrows; } -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; else $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; else $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; - -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; else $START = $_SESSION['startval']; -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; else $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; Step 2: merge the changeset (revision range + URL) to your working copy: $ svn merge -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 U modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Step 3: diff your working copy with merged changes to the repository URL $ svn diff modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php =================================================================== --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4380) +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (working copy) @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ { $has_header = 1; } -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ { $datarows = $xrows; } -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; else $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; else $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; - -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; else $START = $_SESSION['startval']; -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; else $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; Step 4: commit your working copy with merged changes, including a commit message that references/closes any applicable trac tickets. $ svn commit -m 'refs #62 and #17. merging changeset r4358 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration' modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Sending modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Transmitting file data . Committed revision 4381. From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 13:48:24 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:48:24 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Allan Bush wrote: > Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the > installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, > now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger. I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in postgresql). From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 21 15:30:09 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:30:09 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed In-Reply-To: References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com> Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > Allan Bush wrote: > >> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the >> installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, >> now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. >> > > Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an > install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't > noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful > contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger. > > I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in > postgresql). Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance. Mike From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Wed Mar 22 00:06:29 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:06:29 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have not checked Pear template dependencies. What do you mean by SVG? > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler > Envoy??: mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility > > how will this be integrated in the final release ? > > because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to > execute command line commands to install stuff... > I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will > find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible > (because of restrictions on server) > > I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to > put pear files there > (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to > take this files) > > btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! > does image_graph output to SVG ? > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 02:41:02 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:41:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How To: merge changesets between branches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4420FF8E.9040606@mikefedyk.com> Hi Jeff, Is is possible that you could be the branch merge maintainer? I've read through the first half of the svn book, but you have experience here that is quite valuable and will be an example for everyone to learn from also. Most any request that eases merging 4.2 <-> 5.0 will be followed (like possibly splitting utils.php in 4.2.x like I have heard it is in 5.0) as long as a consensus is reached. What do you say? Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > I just merged our first change on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. Merging changes between > branches: > > a) keeps the diff down for when you're ready to merge a branch back the > other way (retiring the branch). > > b) is better than manually modifying your working copy to imitate a > changeset and committing. > > It seems that this is the first use of the svn merge command in our > fledgling repository, so I'll document how to do working-copy merges here > for the benefit of others. We have a lot of merging to do between > vtigercrm/branches/4.2 and vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1! > > (server side merges (between two rev-ranged URLS) are the ultimate for > changeset-preserving history, but we can ease into that at some future > date) > > The end result of the following steps is a tidy changeset with links to > various items in trac: > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4381 > > > Step 1: Find the changeset you want to merge, on the trunk/branch it occurs: > > svn diff -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 > Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > =================================================================== > --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4357) > +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4358) > @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ > { > $has_header = 1; > } > -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; > > if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') > @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ > { > $datarows = $xrows; > } > -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; > else > $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; > > -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; > else > $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); > > -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; > - > -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; > else > $START = $_SESSION['startval']; > -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; > else > $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; > > > Step 2: merge the changeset (revision range + URL) to your working copy: > > $ svn merge -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 > U modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > > > Step 3: diff your working copy with merged changes to the repository URL > > $ svn diff modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > =================================================================== > --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4380) > +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (working copy) > @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ > { > $has_header = 1; > } > -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; > > if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') > @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ > { > $datarows = $xrows; > } > -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; > else > $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; > > -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; > else > $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); > > -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; > - > -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; > else > $START = $_SESSION['startval']; > -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; > else > $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; > > > Step 4: commit your working copy with merged changes, including a commit > message that references/closes any applicable trac tickets. > > $ svn commit -m 'refs #62 and #17. merging changeset r4358 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration' modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Sending modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Transmitting file data . > Committed revision 4381. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 02:53:20 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:53:20 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44210270.2010004@mikefedyk.com> We'll keep it in the source and keep it up to date just like all of our other php based dependencies. A script that removes the external dependencies and replaces them at packaging time (debian, gentoo, Lin/Win bin, etc.) would be a great help. And any patches that clean up referencing the location of external dependencies will be accepted. Anyone interested in writing that script? Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some > work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend > package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have > not checked Pear template dependencies. > > What do you mean by SVG? > > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler >> Envoy? : mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09 >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility >> >> how will this be integrated in the final release ? >> >> because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to >> execute command line commands to install stuff... >> I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will >> find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible >> (because of restrictions on server) >> >> I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to >> put pear files there >> (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to >> take this files) >> >> btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! >> does image_graph output to SVG ? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 03:01:30 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:01:30 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4421045A.50107@mikefedyk.com> A lot of those tables store many-many relationships between various modules. Which module owns a table when it references to more than one module? I've thought about this before but that really killed the idea for me. If a solution or policy can be made that solves it, then it looks much more interesting. Also I absolutely do not like storing version numbers in table or db names. The migration from 4.2.[0123] should be able to be done by testing for some unique structure that is not in that version and changing it to the current version. Also adodb's data dictionary functions may be able to do this for us. I just want to make sure it does it in a lossless fashion. Mike Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote: > Hi All, > > As newbe user of vtigercrm and starting programmer, I have been reading the > forums and mailingslist archive. As vtigercrm grows, we all would like to > see an easier structure to maintain, for example of the db. > I have implemented vtigercrm on my isp with ssl for my own business ( I run > a smal firm for system administrator ) and have done also on a Novell SBS > for several of my clients. > > Looking at the tablestructure of vtigercrm we have 192 tables total! > I wonder if prefix tables could be meaningfull, thinking of several > possibilities: > - If someone wants or must use only one database with several applications, > say joomla cms and vtigercrm at an isp. > - more seperation of db: on a 'per module' bases > - another seperation of db: add-on/plugins with there own prefix > - better version control of db, different prefix per version. > > >From above I suggest: > .vti_ as default > .vti_a_ for addon > .vti_p_ for plugin > .vti_{modulename}_ for module > > or with version control: > .vti_424_ > .vti_424_a > .vti_424_p > .vti_424_{modulename}_ > > > It would also eas the use of future migration scripts as migration could be > done in several layers. > > Best Regards, > > Remco Gerbrands > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 03:07:24 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:07:24 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-ready AlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> References: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> Message-ID: <442105BC.7080507@mikefedyk.com> Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce the output it would be even better. I'll take it either way though. Mike ?????? wrote: > Hi all! > > Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. > > Improvements: > 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php file and > can be easily localized or even freely modified. > 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or multicharacter) > values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) encoding. Or to use multiletter links. > > P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and > criticism:) are welcome. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 03:11:52 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:11:52 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). Joao Oliveira wrote: > Hello all, > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > only returns true or false... > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > for example... > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > each time one method is call. > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From justoff at hotmail.ru Wed Mar 22 06:44:00 2006 From: justoff at hotmail.ru (Anthony V. Scray) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:44:00 +0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-readyAlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <442105BC.7080507@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> > Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? Yes. Here is "unified" version. ("context" value for diff -u is 3) Previous version I made with wiki guide http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/HowToGeneratePatchWithWinMerge. > The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce > the output it would be even better. Currently I'am not familiar with template engine :( Maybe later.. >I'll take it either way though. Thanks. > > Mike > > ?????? wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. > > > > Improvements: > > 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php > > file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. > > 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or > > multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) > encoding. Or to use multiletter links. > > > > P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and > > criticism:) are welcome. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still > scribbling > > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? > Try the AJAX > > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still > scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your > hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho > Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: include_utils.php.diff Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1706 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/d0c693f9/attachment.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I thought that it was possible to define there some custom server global variables, but it isn't. Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/22/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done > quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so > upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). > > Joao Oliveira wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > > only returns true or false... > > > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > > > for example... > > > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > > each time one method is call. > > > > Best Regards > > Jo?o Oliveira. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/74601a37/attachment.html From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Wed Mar 22 08:01:09 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:01:09 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion In-Reply-To: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <00ac01c64db0$b1537f60$2201a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hello Saint, I would suggest adding sample standard roles, of which the common function of each role will have preset views (customizable per user). Key lesson is to provide only what information is needed and nothing more. Everything should fit in an 800 x 600 screen without scrolling vertically or horizontally. Here are my suggestions: Salesforce Staffing Sales Manager Homepage Front page will provide a summary of the team he manages, with individual drill-down capabilities to product/Sales Executive. Summary would include new leads/tasks/contacts obtained today, pending leads/tasks/contacts obtained by his team. "Message to the team" function with edit/display on all members homepage in his team. "Progress vs Target" statistics and/or charts for the month/quarter/year Sales Executive Homepage Front page will provide a summary of his new leads, pending leads, follow up cases and (if possible) reminders to contact clients who have not been contacted for x number of days/weeks/months based on eg. Last sale/quote date (workflow related) IF ENABLED, sales executive will be able to compare his performance with the others in the team he is in "Message to the team" function for "online" Sales Manager updates Management General Manager Homepage Front page will provide a summary of the entire company, with individual drill-down capabilities to product/sales team manager/Sales Executive. Statistics for total leads/task/contacts for individual teams and as an entire company, with charts to show daily/weekly/monthly/quarterly performance on the various factors. Summary of all aging/hottest products/etc and other custom analytics that are relevant to management and strategic planning. This is what I can think up of so far, will ask my team for feedback on the v5.0 UI and pass it along. _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Saint Sent: 20 March 2006 21:29 To: LANCER : Developers List Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion Folks.. Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all your inputs. For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) thanks, Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and then there was talk about svn. I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a repository somewhere? Thanks for the help, JLee -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 230 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/3dc9b8ac/attachment.vcf From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Wed Mar 22 15:33:45 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:33:45 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Vote vote vote !!! Message-ID: <4421B4A9.1050008@vtigercrmfrance.org> vtiger is in final phase* Financial Projects* : http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php Make noise ! Vote vote vote!!!! From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 16:20:03 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:20:03 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. Josh Lee wrote: > Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. > > I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by one > of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is going over > the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import and export > will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export what he/she > would not normally have read access to. > > Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the one > on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and > then there was talk about svn. > > I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still > using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one > that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files > included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a > repository somewhere? > Thanks for the help, > JLee > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From jlee at zertis.net Wed Mar 22 16:39:24 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:39:24 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account there? Mike Fedyk wrote: >Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. > >Josh Lee wrote: > > >>Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >> >>I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by one >>of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is going over >>the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import and export >>will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export what he/she >>would not normally have read access to. >> >>Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the one >>on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and >>then there was talk about svn. >> >>I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a >>repository somewhere? >>Thanks for the help, >>JLee >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 219 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/4ab240b1/attachment.vcf From jlee at zertis.net Wed Mar 22 17:01:19 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:01:19 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421C92F.7040405@zertis.net> Ok, so where is the new svn Repository at, and how do I access it? Josh Lee wrote: > Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't > work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account > there? > > > Mike Fedyk wrote: > >> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. >> >> Josh Lee wrote: >> >> >>> Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >>> >>> I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by >>> one of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is >>> going over the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import >>> and export will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export >>> what he/she would not normally have read access to. >>> >>> Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the >>> one on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, >>> and then there was talk about svn. >>> >>> I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>> using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>> that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>> included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of >>> a repository somewhere? >>> Thanks for the help, >>> JLee >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >>> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >>> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> > > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 219 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/ef17917d/attachment.vcf From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 17:07:31 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:07:31 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421C92F.7040405@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> <4421C92F.7040405@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421CAA3.2010405@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage There is a link from the home page also.. Josh Lee wrote: > Ok, so where is the new svn Repository at, and how do I access it? > > > Josh Lee wrote: > >> Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't >> work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account >> there? >> >> >> Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >>> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. >>> >>> Josh Lee wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >>>> >>>> I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by >>>> one of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is >>>> going over the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import >>>> and export will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export >>>> what he/she would not normally have read access to. >>>> >>>> Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the >>>> one on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, >>>> and then there was talk about svn. >>>> >>>> I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>>> using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>>> that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>>> included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of >>>> a repository somewhere? >>>> Thanks for the help, >>>> JLee >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >>>> scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your >>>> hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho >>>> Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >>> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >>> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From vtiger at leev.net Wed Mar 22 18:03:56 2006 From: vtiger at leev.net (Lee Valentine) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:03:56 +1000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> Hi, To implement authentication into SOAP services, the servers can be placed in a director such as soap/ and place htaccess authentication in the directory. The soap client provides a function to authenticate: $client = new soapclient( 'http://server.com/crm/soap/server.php', ... ); $client->setCredentials('username', 'password'); .htaccess: AuthName "SOAP" AuthType Basic AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd Require valid-user Another method to use would be to place the code below at the top of the soap server and place the username/password in variables in the config. This method has prerequisites: "The $PHP_AUTH_USER, $PHP_AUTH_PW and $PHP_AUTH_TYPE global variables are only available when PHP is installed as a module. If you're using the CGI version of PHP, you will be limited to Web server-based authentication or other custom types of authentication (such as using HTML forms) to match passwords in a database." config: $soap_username = 'username'; $soap_password = 'password'; soap/server.php: if ( ( !isset( $PHP_AUTH_USER )) || (!isset($PHP_AUTH_PW)) || ( $PHP_AUTH_USER != $soap_username ) || ( $PHP_AUTH_PW != $soap_password ) ) { header( 'WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm="SOAP"' ); header( 'HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized' ); echo 'Authorization Required.'; exit; } I have implemented the first method and it works fine. Thanks, Lee On Mar 22 12:06, Joao Oliveira wrote: > Hello Mike. > > Thanks for the ansewer. > > I'm doing some search to evaluate how hard is to implement a session > mechanism in SOAP services in PHP. > > I'll post my results. > > In mean time, if someone has suggestions, please do post them. > > And about my sugestion regarding $_SERVER[], forget it. I thought that it > was possible to define there some custom server global variables, but it > isn't. > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira > > On 3/22/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > > How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done > > quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so > > upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). > > > > Joao Oliveira wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > > > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > > > only returns true or false... > > > > > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > > > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > > > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > > > > > for example... > > > > > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > > > > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > > > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > > > > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > > > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > > > each time one method is call. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Jo?o Oliveira. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 21:31:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:31:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> Message-ID: <4422087F.3050801@mikefedyk.com> Lee Valentine wrote: > Hi, > > To implement authentication into SOAP services, the servers can be placed in a director such as soap/ and place > htaccess authentication in the directory. The soap client provides a function to authenticate: > > $client = new soapclient( 'http://server.com/crm/soap/server.php', ... ); > $client->setCredentials('username', 'password'); > > .htaccess: > AuthName "SOAP" > AuthType Basic > AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd > Require valid-user > > Another method to use would be to place the code below at the top of the soap server and place the > username/password in variables in the config. This method has prerequisites: > > "The $PHP_AUTH_USER, $PHP_AUTH_PW and $PHP_AUTH_TYPE global variables are only available when PHP is installed as a > module. If you're using the CGI version of PHP, you will be limited to Web server-based authentication or other custom > types of authentication (such as using HTML forms) to match passwords in a database." I really don't want vtiger to authenticate against the web server, or a htpasswd file. We should authenticate SOAP against the vtiger users stored in the vtiger database, though this may be an interim solution. Can you ready a patch that takes care of the first option? It's better than what we have now.. Also I don't want to do anything that causes vtiger to depend on mod_php. I will have my test server running php over fastcgi via suexec soon in my development environment as this seems to be the only sane way to securely run a php web server. Mike From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 22:23:38 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:23:38 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-readyAlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> References: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> Message-ID: <442214BA.7080905@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4397 Next time, please create a new ticket and attach your patch there. Thanks for the patch. Mike Anthony V. Scray wrote: >> Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? >> > Yes. Here is "unified" version. ("context" value for diff -u is 3) > > Previous version I made with wiki guide > http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/HowToGeneratePatchWithWinMerge. > > >> The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce >> the output it would be even better. >> > Currently I'am not familiar with template engine :( Maybe later.. > > >> I'll take it either way though. >> > Thanks. > > >> Mike >> >> ?????? wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> >>> Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. >>> >>> Improvements: >>> 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php >>> file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. >>> 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or >>> multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) >>> >> encoding. Or to use multiletter links. >> >>> P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and >>> criticism:) are welcome. >>> >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> -- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >>> >> scribbling >> >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? >>> >> Try the AJAX >> >>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >> scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your >> hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho >> Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 23:52:10 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:52:10 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4398 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: data/CRMEntity.php modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php schema/DatabaseSchema.xml In-Reply-To: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <4422297A.90309@mikefedyk.com> Jeff, is there a way I can cherry pick parts of changesets from a branch with the svn merge command? vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > Author: mfedyk > Date: Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > New Revision: 4398 > > Log: > merge the non-postgres specific changes from 4.2_postgresql_integration. refs #17 and #62 > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -272,7 +272,7 @@ > } > > //This check is done for products. > - if($module == 'Products' || $module == 'Notes' || $module =='Faq') > + if($module == 'Products' || $module == 'Notes' || $module =='Faq' || $module == 'PriceBook' || $module == 'Vendor' || $module == 'Emails') > { > $vtlog->logthis("module is =".$module,'info'); > $ownerid = $current_user->id; > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -15,8 +15,9 @@ > //if($_REQUEST['module']=='Users') > // $sql = "insert into salesmanactivityrel values (". $_REQUEST["entityid"] .",".$_REQUEST["parid"] .")"; > //else > +if($_REQUEST['module']=='Potentials') > $sql = "insert into contpotentialrel values (". $_REQUEST["entityid"] .",".$_REQUEST["parid"] .")"; > -$adb->query($sql); > +else > $sql = "insert into seproductsrel values (". $_REQUEST["parid"] .",".$_REQUEST["entityid"] .")"; > $adb->query($sql); > header("Location: index.php?action=DetailView&module=Potentials&record=".$_REQUEST["parid"]); > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -571,6 +571,7 @@ > global $adb; > $sqldelete = "delete from activitygrouprelation where activityid=".$activityid; > $adb->query($sqldelete); > + if($groupname == '') return; > $sql = "insert into activitygrouprelation values (".$activityid .",'" .$groupname ."')"; > $adb->query($sql); > > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -160,7 +160,7 @@ > Type=InnoDB > modifiedby > > - > + > tabid > > > @@ -225,7 +225,7 @@ > > fieldname > > - > + > tabid > block > displaytype > @@ -726,7 +726,6 @@ > > > > - > > > > @@ -808,10 +807,10 @@ > Type=InnoDB > accountid > > - > + > potentialid > > - > + > sales_stage > > Type=InnoDB > @@ -845,7 +844,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -945,7 +944,7 @@ > activityid > subject > > - > + > activitytype > date_start > > @@ -957,10 +956,10 @@ > date_start > time_start > > - > + > eventstatus > > - > + > status > eventstatus > > @@ -1003,7 +1002,7 @@ > > > Type=InnoDB > - > + > attachmentsid > > > @@ -1044,7 +1043,7 @@ > Type=InnoDB > crmid > > - > + > attachmentsid > crmid > > @@ -1180,7 +1179,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -1582,7 +1581,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -1757,7 +1756,7 @@ > > ticketid > > - > + > status > > > @@ -1788,6 +1787,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -2381,6 +2381,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -3033,7 +3034,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > Type=InnoDB > @@ -3572,7 +3573,7 @@ > > > > - > + > profileid > tabid > > @@ -3607,11 +3608,11 @@ > tabid > fieldname > > - > + > tabid > profileid > > - > + > visible > profileid > > @@ -3657,10 +3658,10 @@ > tabid > fieldid > > - > + > tabid > > - > + > visible > fieldid > > @@ -3793,7 +3794,7 @@ > > > > - > + > relation_id > > > @@ -4050,10 +4051,10 @@ > > > > - > + > quotestage > > - > + > potentialid > > > @@ -4799,10 +4800,10 @@ > > > > - > + > > > - > + > > > cvid > @@ -4873,6 +4874,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -5070,10 +5072,10 @@ > > > > - > + > > > - > + > > > datefilterid > > > _______________________________________________ > vtigercrm-commits mailing list > vtigercrm-commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > http://lists.vtigercrm.com/mailman/listinfo/vtigercrm-commits > > From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 23 03:04:02 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (philip at vtiger.com) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:04:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. Message-ID: <10a2621b1ce.-3260762611567805994.-1177807435764824079@@vtiger.com> Hi Team, Yesterday we have updated vtigerCRM 5 alpha3 demo at the following url: http://vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php. The reason behind for updating the demo is mainly to get the communitysuggestions and feedback so that we can have a fairlystable release vtigerCRM 5 Beta release. So feel free to test the demo and post bugs/feedback @ http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/newticket While submitting a ticket please ensure that : Select the version as 5.0.0 from the Version field Referto view ticketshttp://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&status=closed&group=version&version=5.0.0&order=statusbefore reporting a new ticket to avoid duplicate tickets. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's more or less the same for these module_map names: accounts activity contact customview email (i would include tables starting with mail also) notes products quotes reports rss users Can this be used as references? Or use all tables originating from the module, for example from squirrelmail in one prefix table name. > .vti_ as default > .vti_a_ for addon > .vti_p_ for plugin > .vti_{modulename}_ for module Best regards, Remco Gerbrands -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Mike Fedyk Verzonden: woensdag 22 maart 2006 9:02 Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database A lot of those tables store many-many relationships between various modules. Which module owns a table when it references to more than one module? I've thought about this before but that really killed the idea for me. If a solution or policy can be made that solves it, then it looks much more interesting. Also I absolutely do not like storing version numbers in table or db names. The migration from 4.2.[0123] should be able to be done by testing for some unique structure that is not in that version and changing it to the current version. Also adodb's data dictionary functions may be able to do this for us. I just want to make sure it does it in a lossless fashion. Mike From jtk at yahoo.com Thu Mar 23 13:34:32 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:34:32 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4398 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: data/CRMEntity.php modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php schema/DatabaseSchema.xml References: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <4422297A.90309@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > Jeff, is there a way I can cherry pick parts of changesets from a branch > with the svn merge command? The way I wrote up the svn merge example, with working-copy merges, would allow you to cherrypick in the following ways (possibly combining ways): a) only include selected files in your svn merge command, pulling only changes to that file into your working copy b) svn merge a smaller revision range, to get a few changesets instead of many. c) after merging changes to your working copy, svn diff your working copy, and manually undo certain changes (reducing the diff to your URL at rev HEAD), before committing. You have complete flexibility with what you commit, svn merge to working copy simply fetches applicable changes for you. From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Fri Mar 24 02:01:22 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:01:22 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. In-Reply-To: <10a2621b1ce.-3260762611567805994.-1177807435764824079@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <003b01c64f10$f11f01d0$4e64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hello Philip, How would I and my UI team be able to submit reviews and comments on the UI? For example, if there is a screen that I mention and need to provide recommendations for? With my clients we would usually perform screen captures and provide comments, circles-and-arrows and other markups for rapid review. Please advice. _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of philip at vtiger.com Sent: 23 March 2006 15:04 To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. Hi Team, Yesterday we have updated vtigerCRM 5 alpha3 demo at the following url: http://vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php. The reason behind for updating the demo is mainly to get the community suggestions and feedback so that we can have a fairly stable release vtigerCRM 5 Beta release. So feel free to test the demo and post bugs/feedback @ http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/newticket While submitting a ticket please ensure that : * Select the version as 5.0.0 from the Version field * Refer to view tickets http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/query?status=new&status=assigned &status=reopened&status=closed&group=version&version=5.0.0&order=status before reporting a new ticket to avoid duplicate tickets. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark them as applicable to version 5.0.0. http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/report The caveat is that the vtiger team is not (yet) using trac tickets and milestones to document their good and rapid work. I think that's a mistake and a lost opportunity, but I wasn't going to push the issue until vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 is imminent. Once the 5.0.0 version is in beta, we as a community have to apply the same disciplines that are being used to stabilize vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to good effect. From jlee at zertis.net Fri Mar 24 16:55:36 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:55:36 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 alpha 3 In-Reply-To: References: <003b01c64f10$f11f01d0$4e64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Message-ID: <44246AD8.9070707@zertis.net> I have a client who wants v5alpha3, so I am turning into a stable version for them. Here are some diffs for some patches. I do not have the time to create my own branch and submit these. Please someone take the time to commit these, to save everyone else the work. Index: includes/database/PearDatabase.php =================================================================== --- includes/database/PearDatabase.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/database/PearDatabase.php (working copy) @@ -435,7 +437,9 @@ /* ADODB newly added. replacement for mysql_result() */ function query_result(&$result, $row, $col=0) + if(!$result) + return null; //$this->println("ADODB query_result r=".$row." c=".$col); $result->Move($row); $rowdata = $this->change_key_case($result->FetchRow()); Index: includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php =================================================================== --- includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php (working copy) @@ -861,9 +861,9 @@ for($i=0; $i<$num_row; $i++) { $rel_tab_id = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"related_tabid"); - echo '
'.$rel_tab_id.'
'; + //echo '
'.$rel_tab_id.'
'; $funtion_name = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"name"); - echo '
'.$funtion_name.'
'; +// echo '
'.$funtion_name.'
'; $label = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"label"); if($rel_tab_id != 0) { Index: includes/utils/export.php =================================================================== --- includes/utils/export.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/utils/export.php (working copy) @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ require_once('modules/Potentials/Opportunity.php'); require_once('modules/Users/User.php'); require_once('modules/Products/Product.php'); - +require_once 'include/utils/UserInfoUtil.php'; global $allow_exports; session_start(); @@ -202,10 +204,12 @@ */ $order_by = ""; - $query = $focus->create_export_query($order_by,$where); - + // I made a new function for security during exporting. It makes sure they only have access + // to export what they would have access to read. Previous to this, anyone who had export writes, could export anything. + $query = $focus->create_export_query($order_by,$where); + $clause = getExportSecurityClause($type); + $query .= "\n and (\n $clause \n)"; + //print "
";
+       //print "
";
        //print $query;

        $result = $adb->query($query,true,"Error exporting $type: 
"."
$query");

Index: utils/UserInfoUtil.php
===================================================================
--- utils/UserInfoUtil.php      (revision 4391)
+++ utils/UserInfoUtil.php      (working copy)
@@ -3730,7 +3730,37 @@
        }
        return $list;
 }
+function getExportSecurityClause($module) {
+       global $current_user;

+       $tabid=getTabid($module);
+       global $current_user;
+       if($current_user)
+       {
+               
require('user_privileges/user_privileges_'.$current_user->id.'.php');
+               
require('user_privileges/sharing_privileges_'.$current_user->id.'.php');
+       }
+
+       $clause = "crmentity.smownerid in(".$current_user->id.") or 
crmentity.smownerid in(select user2role.userid from user2role inner join 
users on users.id=user2role.userid inner join role on 
role.roleid=user2role.roleid where role.parentrole like 
'".$current_user_parent_role_seq."::%') or crmentity.smownerid in(select 
shareduserid from tmp_read_user_sharing_per where 
userid=".$current_user->id." and tabid=".$tabid.")";
+       return $clause;
+}
 function getListViewSecurityParameter($module)
 {
        global $adb;


Hope this helps.
Josh Lee

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Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sun Mar 26 17:27:33 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:27:33 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility
In-Reply-To: 
References: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <49216030603261427pd3c0c1alef30958f9413be12@mail.gmail.com>

SVG is client-side graphs (or charting in this case)

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG

firefox 1.5 support SVG, (IE6 support it with the adobe plugin)

I heard somewhere that image_graph was planned to support output in SVG...


/sak

On 3/22/06, Michel JACQUEMES  wrote:
> I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some
> work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend
> package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have
> not checked Pear template dependencies.
>
> What do you mean by SVG?
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler
> > Envoy?: mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09
> > ?: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Objet: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility
> >
> > how will this be integrated in the final release ?
> >
> > because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to
> > execute command line commands to install stuff...
> > I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will
> > find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible
> > (because of restrictions on server)
> >
> > I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to
> > put pear files there
> > (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to
> > take this files)
> >
> > btw, michel you are doing a great job here !
> > does image_graph output to SVG ?
> >
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Mar 28 22:22:29 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (gopals at vtiger.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:22:29 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 API Documentation
Message-ID: <10a44061414.6947144176994677531.944817448814908012@@vtiger.com>

Dear Team,

As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on accomplishing this task.

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Mar 30 13:01:02 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:31:02 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks better?
Message-ID: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>

Folks

Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these color 
variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks 
appealing to you..

thanks,
Saint


*Model A*


or this one..?

*Model B

*
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Thu Mar 30 13:55:13 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:55:13 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C2991.1040101@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi saint, my vote go to model A, more soft for me.
A?ssa
Saint a ?crit :

> Folks
>
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
> working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these 
> color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample 
> looks appealing to you..
>
> thanks,
> Saint
>
>
> *Model A*
>
>
> or this one..?
>
> *Model B
>
> *
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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From jlee at zertis.net  Thu Mar 30 14:12:54 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:12:54 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>

Saint wrote:

> Folks
>
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
> working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these 
> color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample 
> looks appealing to you..
>
> thanks,
> Saint
>
>
> *Model A*
>
>
> or this one..?
>
> *Model B
>
> *
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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>
Heh, I like B, it is bolder.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From info at GariDigital.com  Thu Mar 30 14:19:49 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:19:49 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com> <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>

I like model A

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 3/30/06, Josh Lee  wrote:
>
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Folks
> >
> > Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are
> > working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these
> > color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample
> > looks appealing to you..
> >
> > thanks,
> > Saint
> >
> >
> > *Model A*
> >
> >
> > or this one..?
> >
> > *Model B
> >
> > *
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
> Heh, I like B, it is bolder.
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Thu Mar 30 15:16:56 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:16:56 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com> <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
	<677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <994473020603301216u43171a5bod8aca1c60bd30949@mail.gmail.com>

I like A better.    More business like in my opinion.


Jamie


On 3/30/06, Jorge Garifuna  wrote:
>
> I like model A
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com
>
>
> On 3/30/06, Josh Lee  wrote:
> >
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Folks
> > >
> > > Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are
> > > working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these
> > > color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample
> > > looks appealing to you..
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Saint
> > >
> > >
> > > *Model A*
> > >
> > >
> > > or this one..?
> > >
> > > *Model B
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> >
> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >
> > Heh, I like B, it is bolder.
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
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> >
> >
>
>
>
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From info at adlibweb.com  Thu Mar 30 15:19:04 2006
From: info at adlibweb.com (adlibweb)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>

Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out better), better blending, green button stands out better.

n
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Saint 
  To: vtiger-crm ; LANCER : Developers List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:01 PM
  Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks better?


  Folks

  Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks appealing to you..

  thanks,
  Saint


  Model A


  or this one..?

  Model B




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From nolan at peaceworks.ca  Thu Mar 30 15:27:59 2006
From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:27:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C3F4F.9030001@peaceworks.ca>

yup... A

peace,
nokes

Saint wrote:
> Folks
> 
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are working on. 
> We started the color with blue.. and came across these color variants Model A 
> and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks appealing to you..
> 
> thanks,
> Saint
> 
> 
> *Model A*
> 
> 
> or this one..?
> 
> *Model B
> 
> *
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From rrg at r2g.nl  Thu Mar 30 16:05:48 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Remco R. Gerbrands)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:05:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
	<009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
Message-ID: <20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200, adlibweb wrote
> Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out 
> better), better blending, green button stands out better.


Agree, A is better.

Remco

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From libregeek at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 00:48:29 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:18:29 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
	<009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
	<20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>
Message-ID: <2315046d0603302148q7606cd2ap3c326da2cd79a913@mail.gmail.com>

A looks cool and elegant.
regards
Manilal

On 31/03/06, Remco R. Gerbrands  wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200, adlibweb wrote
> > Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out
> > better), better blending, green button stands out better.
>
>
> Agree, A is better.
>
> Remco
>
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Mar 31 05:35:08 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:35:08 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
Message-ID: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other 
lang for release.

See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with english.

For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the 
link go to "Hacking Attempt".

Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.

UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.

Screenshot calendar1.jpg, since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format 
here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's 
Day month year).

The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway 
harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as 
vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on 
vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !


A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta 
test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open 
the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and 
relation to promote vtiger outside community.

Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
A?ssa

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From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 06:21:58 2006
From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:21:58 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I totally agree with you A?ssa.
I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.

If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.

Best Regards
Jo?o Oliveira.

On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
>
> Hi team,
> i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> lang for release.
>
> See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
>
> For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> link go to "Hacking Attempt".
>
> Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
>
> UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
>
> Screenshot calendar1.jpg, since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> Day month year).
>
> The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
>
>
> A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> relation to promote vtiger outside community.
>
> Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> A?ssa
>
> .
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From info at adlibweb.com  Fri Mar 31 06:27:01 2006
From: info at adlibweb.com (adlibweb)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:27:01 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>

And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joao Oliveira 
  To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang


  Hello all,

  I totally agree with you A?ssa. 
  I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.

  If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.

  Best Regards
  Jo?o Oliveira.


  On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
    Hi team,
    i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
    lang for release.

    See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with english.

    For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the 
    link go to "Hacking Attempt".

    Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.

    UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.

    Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
    here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
    Day month year).

    The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
    harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
    vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
    vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !


    A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta 
    test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
    the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
    relation to promote vtiger outside community.

    Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english 
    A?ssa

    .


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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 07:20:34 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:20:34 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
Message-ID: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>

once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak

On 3/31/06, adlibweb  wrote:
>
> And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joao Oliveira
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
>
> Hello all,
>
> I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>
> If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
> all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>
> Best Regards
> Jo?o Oliveira.
>
>
> On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
> > Hi team,
> > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > lang for release.
> >
> > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
> >
> > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> >
> > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
> >
> > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> >
> > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > Day month year).
> >
> > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> >
> >
> > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> >
> > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > A?ssa
> >
> > .
> >
> >
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From richie at vtiger.com  Fri Mar 31 08:30:43 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:30:43 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
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Message-ID: <10a507fa4a9.3228964008498662867.8913703528505651198@@vtiger.com>

That, is not the exact fact. 
We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues at our end. Once we resolve those, 
we will have it integrated into the product. 
 
/sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time. 
internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we have been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see for everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. Every contribution is important to us and we try hard to 
do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to integrate all of them quickly. 
MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have 
worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the issues. We still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon with his help. 
 
 
Thanks, 
Richie




---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ---- 

  once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak

On 3/31/06, adlibweb <info at adlibweb.com> wrote:
>
> And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joao Oliveira
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
>
> Hello all,
>
> I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>
> If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
> all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>
> Best Regards
> Jo?o Oliveira.
>
>
> On 3/31/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
> > Hi team,
> > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > lang for release.
> >
> > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
> >
> > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> >
> > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
> >
> > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> >
> > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > Day month year).
> >
> > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> >
> >
> > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> >
> > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > A?ssa
> >
> > .
> >
> >
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> >
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>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 10:48:20 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:48:20 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <7528873980224066170@unknownmsgid>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
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	<7528873980224066170@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030603310748j570b0fffp8b073b5d8d47d8a6@mail.gmail.com>

richie, I din't know that, my apologies...


On 3/31/06, Richie  wrote:
> That, is not the exact fact.
> We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues at
> our end. Once we resolve those,
> we will have it integrated into the product.
>
> /sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time.
> internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we have
> been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see for
> everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. Every
> contribution is important to us and we try hard to
> do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to integrate
> all of them quickly.
> MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have
> worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the issues. We
> still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon with his help.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Sergio A. Kessler wrote ----
>
>
>  once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
> is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(
>
> /sak
>
> On 3/31/06, adlibweb  wrote:
> >
> > And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joao Oliveira
> > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> > I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> > loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
> >
> > If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to
> review
> > all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jo?o Oliveira.
> >
> >
> > On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
> > > Hi team,
> > > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > > lang for release.
> > >
> > > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> > english.
> > >
> > > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> > >
> > > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for
> translaters.
> > >
> > > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> > >
> > > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > > Day month year).
> > >
> > > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> > >
> > >
> > > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > > A?ssa
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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From rrg at r2g.nl  Fri Mar 31 08:29:44 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:29:44 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Well,

What is against implementing gettext solution from mike into vtigercrm v5?
Not in v4 as that's stable and this would be a new feature: easier
translations.
So what can I do to get this implemented?

Remco


[/sak wrote:]
once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak



From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Mar  1 04:34:41 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:34:41 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on last
	commits for trunk branches on php files
Message-ID: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>

hi team,

i noticed a problem on some commits:

Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php
==============================================================================
Binary files - no diff available.

php files are not binary files ;)
mime-type is false, you must use text/plain.

command under linux/cygwin (thks mike):
find -iname '*.php*' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain

cheers,

fathi


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Wed Mar  1 04:32:44 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:32:44 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on
 last commits for trunk branches on php files
In-Reply-To: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <44056A3C.2080704@mikefedyk.com>

Fathi Boudra wrote:

>hi team,
>
>i noticed a problem on some commits:
>
>Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php
>==============================================================================
>Binary files - no diff available.
>
>php files are not binary files ;)
>mime-type is false, you must use text/plain.
>
>command under linux/cygwin (thks mike):
>find -iname '*.php*' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain
>  
>
One too many asterisks in there...  It should be:

find -iname '*.php' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain




From jtk at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  1 08:40:59 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:40:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on
	last commits for trunk branches on php files
References: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>
	<44056A3C.2080704@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:32:44 -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:

> Fathi Boudra wrote:
> 
>>hi team,
>>
>>i noticed a problem on some commits:
>>
>>Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php
>>==============================================================================
>>Binary files - no diff available.
>>
>>php files are not binary files ;)
>>mime-type is false, you must use text/plain.
>
> One too many asterisks in there...  It should be:
> 
> find -iname '*.php' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain


Also, each committer should have a good [auto-props] section in their
~/.subversion/config file, which properly sets mime-type and eol-type for
all file extensions in use by this project (including .inc, etc.)



From jtk at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  1 14:57:50 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:57:50 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigercrm-5.0.0alpha2 demo looks great
Message-ID: 

Just wanted to congratulate the vtigercrm team on the improvements to the
vtigercrm-5.0.0alpha2 demo. It's really looking quite good. There isn't
really a lot of use for positive feedback in the trac ticket system, so
I'll say it here.

I'd also like to commend the vtigercrm-4.2.x maintainers, whose efforts to
support the stable release are allowing the vtigercrm team to make these
leaps forward.

Thanks again, guys.



From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 13:58:07 2006
From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:58:07 +0000
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Receiving data from outside sources
In-Reply-To: <49216030602280713g71d470edw676dcd0219757fb2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43FB7E8F.7030502@mikefedyk.com>
	
	<440382EA.9090701@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030602271634s362b7038rd469c4d2287b00d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<4403BDF9.6030606@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030602280713g71d470edw676dcd0219757fb2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86f04e340603011058h1a0675e8mea3efc6d7c3a623d@mail.gmail.com>

I found this when i was reading about REST...

http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2004/12/12/rest-to-my-wife

Maybe you want to explain it to your wife... :)

Best Regards
Joao Oliveira.

On 2/28/06, Sergio A. Kessler  wrote:
>
> like, look in
>
> http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
>
> there are various code samples there...
>
> basically you don't need a specialized library, good old
> file_get_contents is your friend ;-)
> (or you can use the curl extension)
>
> I'm imagining something like:
>
> exporting:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=csv
> or
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=xml
>
> importing:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=import_client
>
> this last call should be made by a POST action, passing in the data,
> can be made by a simple php script, something like
>
> foreach line in the source csv_file
> {
>     $postargs = 
>
>     // Get the curl session object
>     $session = curl_init($request);
>
>     // Set the POST options.
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POST, true);
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS, $postargs);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_HEADER, true);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true);
>
>     // Do the POST and then close the session
>     $response = curl_exec($session);
>     curl_close($session);
>
>
> of course, the folder "api" should be protected wrt security.
>
> /sak
>
>
> On 2/28/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> > Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> >
> > >On 2/27/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>The focus of the question is how to get data in and out of vtiger
> using
> > >>public interfaces from another automated system.  I would like to
> renew
> > >>that question.  Is SOAP the only and/or best answer in this area?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >nop.
> > >SOAP is a complex beast that must die.
> > >
> > >you can use REST (web services done right).
> > >
> > >just like yahoo does with php:
> > >
> > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
> > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/howto-reqRestPhp.html
> > >
> > >note that with "output" parameter you can control what you get, ie.
> > >CSV, XML, txt, whatever.
> > >
> > >
> > Have any links to php libraries for REST?  I'm reading through the
> > various articles in Wikipedia right now...
>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 18:23:15 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:23:15 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Receiving data from outside sources
In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603011058h1a0675e8mea3efc6d7c3a623d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43FB7E8F.7030502@mikefedyk.com>
	
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wow, very illustrative, very...  :-)

I will keep this link handy when someone start to mention acronyms of
complicated and bloated protocols...

cites from the article:

"The protocol I was talking about, HTTP - it's capable of all sorts of
neat stuff that people ignore for some reason."

"Instead, the large majority [of computer people] are busy writing
layers of complex specifications for doing this stuff in a different
way that isn't nearly as useful or eloquent."


he!, if you really want to know the the advantages of SOAP, look at this link:

http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200504/msg00274.html


/sak


On 3/1/06, Joao Oliveira  wrote:
> I found this when i was reading about REST...
>
> http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2004/12/12/rest-to-my-wife
>
> Maybe you want to explain it to your wife... :)
>
> Best Regards
> Joao Oliveira.
>
>
> On 2/28/06, Sergio A. Kessler  wrote:
> >
> like, look in
>
> http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
>
> there are various code samples there...
>
> basically you don't need a specialized library, good old
> file_get_contents is your friend ;-)
> (or you can use the curl extension)
>
> I'm imagining something like:
>
> exporting:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=csv
> or
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=xml
>
> importing:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=import_client
>
> this last call should be made by a POST action, passing in the data,
> can be made by a simple php script, something like
>
>  foreach line in the source csv_file
>  {
>     $postargs = 
>
>     // Get the curl session object
>     $session = curl_init($request);
>
>     // Set the POST options.
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POST, true);
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS, $postargs);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_HEADER, true);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true);
>
>     // Do the POST and then close the session
>     $response = curl_exec($session);
>     curl_close($session);
>
>
> of course, the folder "api" should be protected wrt security.
>
> /sak
>
>
> On 2/28/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> > Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> >
> > >On 2/27/06, Mike Fedyk < mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>The focus of the question is how to get data in and out of vtiger using
> > >>public interfaces from another automated system.  I would like to renew
> > >>that question.  Is SOAP the only and/or best answer in this area?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >nop.
> > >SOAP is a complex beast that must die.
> > >
> > >you can use REST (web services done right).
> > >
> > >just like yahoo does with php:
> > >
> > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
> > > http://developer.yahoo.net/php/howto-reqRestPhp.html
> > >
> > >note that with "output" parameter you can control what you get, ie.
> > >CSV, XML, txt, whatever.
> > >
> > >
> > Have any links to php libraries for REST?  I'm reading through the
> > various articles in Wikipedia right now...
>
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Thu Mar  2 04:52:16 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:52:16 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released!
Message-ID: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>

Dear Team,

We are pleased inform you the release of vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 (development release) for  testing purpose.

Major Features:
Campaign management
Enhanced pre-defined dashboards
AJAXified Edit Fields in all the modules

Intuitive System Administration
Integration of Web services to update all your public listed customer/company profiles
View multidimensional models for product catalog
Latest news on company updates
Shout box for vtiger CRM users
Redesigned Customer Self-service portal
Support for MySQL 4.1.x database system

    Demo: 

    vtiger CRM: http://www.vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php

     admin/admin

    Customer Portal:

    http://www.vtiger.com/products/crm/customerportal_5alpha/

Note: First create a contact in vtiger CRM Alpha demo and get the user name password. Don't forget to enable "Portal User" option in Contact details page.

Download:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/vtigercrm/vtiger_CRM_5_alpha2_Source.tar.gz?download

Installation Procedure:

http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Vtiger_CRM_5_Alpha_2_-_Installation_Guide

Bug Tracker: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/report

Discussions: http://forums.vtiger.com/index.php?c=10

Please do post your suggestions & comments to provide a better product for vtiger community.

Cheers,

Gopal
(On behalf of vtiger Team)


S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
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From ar at im-netz.de  Thu Mar  2 07:00:59 2006
From: ar at im-netz.de (Alexander Rothenberg)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:00:59 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree?
Message-ID: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de>

Hi evryone,
i was trying get the vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree from the
sourceforge-cvs-server with "cvs -z3
-d:pserver:anonymous at cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/vtigercrm co -r
VTIGERCRM_4_2_BRANCH vtiger_crm" but i stil get the 5 alpha 2, can any1
tell me what im doing wrong? or is there a better way to get the 4.2.4
RC2 source?

thx, alex


From fboudra at free.fr  Thu Mar  2 08:10:04 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:10:04 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree?
In-Reply-To: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de>
References: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de>
Message-ID: <200603021410.04813.fboudra@free.fr>

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage


From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Thu Mar  2 08:54:49 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:54:49 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview
In-Reply-To: <4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>
References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com>
	<4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>

saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using
images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations...

/sak

On 2/28/06, Saint  wrote:
>
>         Team,
>
>  The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI.  In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order.
>
>  After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided.
>
>  - Saint
>
>
>
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From jamieinnh at gmail.com.idc.adventnet.com  Thu Mar  2 10:18:30 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com.idc.adventnet.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:18:30 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Someone is saying the Demo of vTiger has
	been hacked
Message-ID: <994473020603020718s415f49acx9fe445568a1196b4@mail.gmail.com>

I went to the demo and can't see where it's changed, but has anyone looked
into this?

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=21417#21417


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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Thu Mar  2 12:06:33 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:06:33 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 Release Schedule
In-Reply-To: <43FC5310.90206@mikefedyk.com>
References: <43FBF414.8020407@mikefedyk.com> <43FC5310.90206@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <44072619.5060101@mikefedyk.com>

Hi everyone,

Well we missed our release date, again. :)

I need to do a few checkins before a checkin, and make an rc3.  I want 
to make sure the windows installer is ready so it can be released when 
rc3 goes out and get a day or two of testing.

Other than that I think we're ready for 4.2.4 to be let loose.

Mike

Mike Fedyk wrote:

>Did I say May?  Sorry that should have been *March* 1st.
>
>Mike
>
>Mike Fedyk wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>I am planning on releasing 4.2.4rc1 on Friday, so let's get in all of 
>>the changes that are planned for 4.2.4 before then so we can release 
>>on May 1st.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>    
>>
>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Thu Mar  2 12:07:29 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:07:29 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview
In-Reply-To: <49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com>	<4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com>

I believe it is generated from text and can be translated properly just 
like everything else.

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using
>images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations...
>
>/sak
>
>On 2/28/06, Saint  wrote:
>  
>
>>        Team,
>>
>> The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI.  In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order.
>>
>> After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided.
>>
>> - Saint
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>    
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Mar  2 12:35:04 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:05:04 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview
In-Reply-To: <44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com>
References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com>	<4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>	<49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <44072CC8.9020303@vtiger.com>

Mike, Sak,

In GA the image heading will be replaced with text heading.

-Saint



Mike Fedyk wrote:

>I believe it is generated from text and can be translated properly just 
>like everything else.
>
>Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
>  
>
>>saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using
>>images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations...
>>
>>/sak
>>
>>On 2/28/06, Saint  wrote:
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>       Team,
>>>
>>>The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI.  In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order.
>>>
>>>After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided.
>>>
>>>- Saint
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
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>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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>>
>>    
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Thu Mar  2 15:07:09 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:07:09 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Who is handling vtiger's freshmeat entry?
In-Reply-To: <10990400e17.756168470955524032.5677358827788219315@@vtiger.com>
References: <43FB94F8.6020208@mikefedyk.com>
	<10990400e17.756168470955524032.5677358827788219315@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <4407506D.5000604@mikefedyk.com>

I still don't see an update for alpha2...

Gopal wrote:
>
> Dear Mike,
>
> I will update vtiger project details in freshmeat ASAP.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gopal
>
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ----
>
>     It needs a release notification about 5.0 alpha.
>
>     I use freshmeat for searching open source projects and improving our
>     ranking there will help get us more users and developers IMO.
>
>     Mike
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From saint at vtiger.com  Fri Mar  3 04:14:16 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:44:16 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
Message-ID: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>

Team,

We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a 
Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major 
modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20, 
50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus 
eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module. To 
facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been 
given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the 
dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral bindings 
to the right.

Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of page 
heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the default 
landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people can select 
their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can select their fav 
module and so, the others.


-Saint

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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Mar  3 04:25:20 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:25:20 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i 
have french users very positive feedback.
A?ssa

Saint a ?crit :

> Team,
>
> We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a 
> Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major 
> modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20, 
> 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus 
> eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module. 
> To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been 
> given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the 
> dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral 
> bindings to the right.
>
> Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of 
> page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the 
> default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people 
> can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can 
> select their fav module and so, the others.
>
>
> -Saint
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar  3 10:19:13 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:19:13 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>

saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard
approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two
different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web
usability, you just broke the "page" concept...

there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen.

(I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...)

/sak

On 3/3/06, Webmaster  wrote:
> Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i
> have french users very positive feedback.
> A?ssa
>
> Saint a ?crit :
>
> > Team,
> >
> > We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a
> > Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major
> > modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20,
> > 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus
> > eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module.
> > To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been
> > given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the
> > dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral
> > bindings to the right.
> >
> > Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of
> > page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the
> > default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people
> > can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can
> > select their fav module and so, the others.
> >
> >
> > -Saint
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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From saint at vtiger.com  Fri Mar  3 14:21:45 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:51:45 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>

sak,

Sorry, I couldnt get what you mean by "two differnet scroll windows". 
Please throw some more light over this! In the At a Glance UI, there is 
only one scrollable DIV layer in the right.



cheers,
Saint



Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard
>approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two
>different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web
>usability, you just broke the "page" concept...
>
>there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen.
>
>(I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...)
>
>/sak
>
>On 3/3/06, Webmaster  wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i
>>have french users very positive feedback.
>>A?ssa
>>
>>Saint a ?crit :
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Team,
>>>
>>>We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a
>>>Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major
>>>modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20,
>>>50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus
>>>eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module.
>>>To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been
>>>given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the
>>>dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral
>>>bindings to the right.
>>>
>>>Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of
>>>page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the
>>>default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people
>>>can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can
>>>select their fav module and so, the others.
>>>
>>>
>>>-Saint
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>    
>>
>
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From developer at infointegrated.com  Fri Mar  3 08:48:11 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 07:48:11 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <88BAD7A1-DE7C-44A5-827E-5FD40B679FE2@infointegrated.com>

Saint,

A couple of comments:

The new UI looks amazing. it really is slick, and I can't wait for it  
to be released. :)

The Dashboard looks like a website within a website. It doesn't  
appear to be well integrated into vtiger. My main concern is the  
static size of the iframe (not sure that's what it is, just what it  
looks like). This means having a larger display is not an advantage.  
Plus, there's a lot of wasted space on the screen (if you make you  
browser window larger). I hope that this is adjusted for the final  
release. It also appears that the future At a Glance may have the  
same issue.

I really like the new At a Glance... I still think vtiger needs a  
home page that can be customized with daily use information. A sort  
of, "What am I doing today? view". I think of activities, meetings,  
open tickets, email, calendar... the first things I look at every  
day. I'd like to have a place I can quickly see all of them.

Thanks, and keep up the great work!
Brian

On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:14 AM, Saint wrote:

> Team,
>
> We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called At a  
> Glance. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major  
> modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10,  
> 20, 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and  
> thus eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X  
> module. To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All  
> Modules" has been given, which will display all Top X modules one  
> by one (like the dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have  
> included spiral bindings to the right.
>
> Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of  
> page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the  
> default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people  
> can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can  
> select their fav module and so, the others.
>
>
> -Saint
> 
>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still  
> using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the  
> AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho  
> Writer for FREE instead!
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From fp at crm-now.de  Fri Mar  3 10:11:00 2006
From: fp at crm-now.de (Frank Piepiorra)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:11:00 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reports fixing
Message-ID: <200603031512.k23FCCFn012852@doko.im-netz.de>

There has been a posting of a Reports fix, I do not see it included in rc2:

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3884&highlight=report

Regards,
Frank



From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar  3 15:36:42 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:36:42 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>

saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...

I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
within a website"...

look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...

see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
"page" has been broken...

"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
way around a website or finding the content they wanted."

what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html


it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
the graph part (which is not what I want)


/sak
(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.


On 3/3/06, Saint  wrote:
>  sak,
>
>  Sorry, I couldnt get what you mean by "two differnet scroll windows".
> Please throw some more light over this! In the At a Glance UI, there is only
> one scrollable DIV layer in the right.
>
>
>
>  cheers,
>  Saint
>
>
>
>
>  Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>  saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard
> approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two
> different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web
> usability, you just broke the "page" concept...
>
> there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen.
>
> (I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...)
>
> /sak
>
> On 3/3/06, Webmaster  wrote:
>
>
>  Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i
> have french users very positive feedback.
> A?ssa
>
> Saint a ?crit :
>
>
>
>  Team,
>
> We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a
> Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major
> modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20,
> 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus
> eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module.
> To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been
> given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the
> dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral
> bindings to the right.
>
> Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of
> page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the
> default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people
> can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can
> select their fav module and so, the others.
>
>
> -Saint
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your
> desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled,
> collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
> http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your
> desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled,
> collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
> http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your
> desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled,
> collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
> http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your
> desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled,
> collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
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From philip at vtiger.com  Fri Mar  3 15:25:18 2006
From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:25:18 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
Message-ID: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com>

Hi Developers,

The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location 
http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe

Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as there was execption during installation.

Regards,
Rajkumar
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 01:23:15 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:23:15 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
In-Reply-To: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com>
References: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <44093253.2000807@mikefedyk.com>

Can someone send me the modified source files?

I don't have a windows machine I can use for testing.

Mike

Philip wrote:

> Hi Developers,
>
> The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location 
> http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe
>
> Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as there was execption during installation.
>
> Regards,
> Rajkumar
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>http://zohowriter.com/?vt 
>  
>


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 01:33:05 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:33:05 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
>
>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
>within a website"...
>
>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...
>
>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
>"page" has been broken...
>
>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
>way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
>
>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
>
>
>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
>the graph part (which is not what I want)
>
>
>/sak
>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.
>  
>
I'm sorry but I completely disagree.

Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with 
the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the 
concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.

And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll 
the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of 
IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in 
Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).


From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 07:24:25 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 13:24:25 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
Message-ID: 

I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.

VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.

While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
we can read that:

"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
License for commercial use."

So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
specifically for commercial usage.

Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.

Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
your opinion?


Marcin
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Sat Mar  4 07:33:56 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:33:56 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <44098934.7060300@vtigercrmfrance.org>

"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) 
For non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph 
Professional License for commercial use."

vtiger CRM is open-source so i think there is no problem.
A?ssa

Marcin Antczak a ?crit :

> I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
>
> VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version 
> there is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 
> license.
>
> While it's true but only partially. Because on 
> http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
> we can read that:
>
> "JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) 
> For non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph 
> Professional License for commercial use."
>
> So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, 
> we need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software 
> designed specifically for commercial usage.
>
> Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
>
> Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what 
> to do with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to 
> config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What 
> is your opinion?
>
>
> Marcin
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>http://zohowriter.com/?vt 
>  
>


From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Sat Mar  4 07:39:34 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:39:34 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger blogs spammed
Message-ID: <44098A86.7010700@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi,
the vtiger blog is spammed by registered users !

http://blogs.vtiger.com/weblog_entry.php?p=21517#21517

http://blogs.vtiger.com/weblog_entry.php?p=21525#21525

Aissa



From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 09:58:15 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 09:58:15 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
References: <18711.168508935$1141418802@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: 

Philip wrote:
> Hi Developers,
> The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location 
> http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe
> Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php
> as there was execption during installation. Regards,
> Rajkumar

Sigh...

There is no version vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC. There are
release candidates vtigercrm-4.2.4rc1, vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2, and
vtigercrm-4.2.4rc3, and the final release will be vtigercrm-4.2.4. Which
version does this installer resemble?


Thanks for the efforts on an installer, they are appreciated.




From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 10:08:58 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 12:08:58 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
	<440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com>

1. I don't use IE.

2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the
vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux).

3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple
scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that.


/sak

On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
> >saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
> >vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
> >
> >I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
> >within a website"...
> >
> >look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...
> >
> >see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
> >"page" has been broken...
> >
> >"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
> >since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
> >Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
> >doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
> >way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
> >
> >what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
> >jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
> >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
> >
> >
> >it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
> >what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
> >rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
> >the graph part (which is not what I want)
> >
> >
> >/sak
> >(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.
> >
> >
> I'm sorry but I completely disagree.
>
> Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with
> the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the
> concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.
>
> And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll
> the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of
> IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in
> Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 12:37:48 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:37:48 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
In-Reply-To: 
References: <18711.168508935$1141418802@news.gmane.org>
	
Message-ID: <200603041837.49042.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 15:58, Jeff Kowalczyk a ?crit?:
> Philip wrote:
> > Hi Developers,
> > The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following
> > location http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe
> > Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php
> > as there was execption during installation. Regards,
> > Rajkumar
>
> Sigh...
> 
> There is no version vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC. There are
> release candidates vtigercrm-4.2.4rc1, vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2, and
> vtigercrm-4.2.4rc3, and the final release will be vtigercrm-4.2.4. Which
> version does this installer resemble?
> 
>
> Thanks for the efforts on an installer, they are appreciated.

like jeff said, i recall that you can look the small developer documentation :
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki

especially coding style and naming scheme.
comments/contributions are welcomed too.

cheers,

Fathi



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 13:23:09 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:23:09 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit?:
> I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
>
> VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
> is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.
>
> While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
> we can read that:
>
> "JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
> License for commercial use."
>
> So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
> need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
> specifically for commercial usage.
>
> Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
>
> Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
> with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
> config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
> your opinion?
>
>
> Marcin

from debian jpgraph copyright file:
---BEGIN---
For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle 


To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed 
version. You can read on home page:

"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
License for commercial use."

This is not compliant with DFSG #6 

"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a 
specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from 
being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research."

It was downloaded from:
http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz
---END---

with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source" 
term :
"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
License for commercial use."

but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire 
the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on 
a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are 
using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business 
processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company. 
In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either 
through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most 
likely falls under commercial use."

with this statements, my interpretation is:
we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't 
sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services 
around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic 
advantage" and need professional license.

This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph 
professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know.

We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last 
GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ?

cheers,

Fathi



From developer at infointegrated.com  Sat Mar  4 12:13:52 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:13:52 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
	<440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com>

I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should  
not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I  
was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels  
(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with  
two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21"  
screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels  
rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a  
small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page.


On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

> 1. I don't use IE.
>
> 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the
> vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux).
>
> 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple
> scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that.
>
>
> /sak
>
> On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
>> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>>
>>> saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
>>> vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
>>>
>>> I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
>>> within a website"...
>>>
>>> look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking  
>>> about...
>>>
>>> see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept  
>>> of a
>>> "page" has been broken...
>>>
>>> "The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
>>> since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
>>> Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
>>> doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding  
>>> their
>>> way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
>>>
>>> what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
>>> jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
>>> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
>>>
>>>
>>> it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
>>> what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
>>> rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
>>> the graph part (which is not what I want)
>>>
>>>
>>> /sak
>>> (*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web  
>>> usability.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm sorry but I completely disagree.
>>
>> Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with
>> the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the
>> concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.
>>
>> And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't  
>> scroll
>> the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is  
>> because of
>> IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox  
>> and in
>> Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).
>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 13:46:02 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:46:02 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>

Fathi BOUDRA wrote:

>Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit :
>  
>
>>I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
>>
>>VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
>>is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.
>>
>>While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
>>we can read that:
>>
>>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
>>non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
>>License for commercial use."
>>
>>So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
>>need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
>>specifically for commercial usage.
>>
>>Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
>>
>>Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
>>with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
>>config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
>>your opinion?
>>
>>
>>Marcin
>>    
>>
>
>from debian jpgraph copyright file:
>---BEGIN---
>For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle 
>
>
>To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed 
>version. You can read on home page:
>
>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
>non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
>License for commercial use."
>
>This is not compliant with DFSG #6 
>
>"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a 
>specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from 
>being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research."
>
>It was downloaded from:
>http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz
>---END---
>
>with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source" 
>term :
>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
>non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
>License for commercial use."
>
>but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
>http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
>"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire 
>the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on 
>a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are 
>using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business 
>processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company. 
>In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either 
>through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most 
>likely falls under commercial use."
>
>with this statements, my interpretation is:
>we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't 
>sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services 
>around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic 
>advantage" and need professional license.
>
>This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph 
>professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know.
>
>We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last 
>GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ?
>
We need to change to jgraph 1.5.2 and if the GPL version isn't being 
maintained we will need to find an alternative or maintain it ourselves.

Mike


From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 13:47:10 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:47:10 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: 

On 3/4/06, Fathi BOUDRA  wrote:
>
> but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
> http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
> "if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to
> acquire
> the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph
> on
> a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are
> using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business
> processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company.
> In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either
> through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this
> most
> likely falls under commercial use."
>
> with this statements, my interpretation is:
> we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't
> sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services
> around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic
> advantage" and need professional license.



And this is the problem.

Because I agree:

- you don't sell vtiger so you can use jpgraph since you don't gain any
incomes

- you can also distribute jpgraph but then problem is that you don't know
how other use vtiger

- if they use vtiger 'non-commercial' then everything is ok
  (for example open source developers, private users... )

- but as we all know - vtiger is open source product targeted for business
users, so they:

"In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either
through paying customers or improving ___internal___ business processes)
this most
likely falls under commercial use."

So although you can distribute jpgraph, you can use this as open source
developer etc. then other _business_ users violate JpGraph license and
should buy 'JpGraph professional' license or - remove/disable this library
in vtiger - or downgrade library that is bundled with vtiger to 1.5.2 as
Fathi said.


Marcin
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 13:48:35 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 15:48:35 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph


On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> Fathi BOUDRA wrote:
>
> >Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit :
> >
> >
> >>I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
> >>
> >>VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
> >>is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.
> >>
> >>While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
> >>we can read that:
> >>
> >>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> >>non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
> >>License for commercial use."
> >>
> >>So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
> >>need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
> >>specifically for commercial usage.
> >>
> >>Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
> >>
> >>Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
> >>with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
> >>config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
> >>your opinion?
> >>
> >>
> >>Marcin
> >>
> >>
> >
> >from debian jpgraph copyright file:
> >---BEGIN---
> >For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle
> >
> >
> >To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed
> >version. You can read on home page:
> >
> >"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> >non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional
> >License for commercial use."
> >
> >This is not compliant with DFSG #6
> >
> >"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a
> >specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from
> >being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research."
> >
> >It was downloaded from:
> >http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz
> >---END---
> >
> >with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source"
> >term :
> >"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> >non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional
> >License for commercial use."
> >
> >but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
> >http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
> >"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire
> >the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on
> >a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are
> >using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business
> >processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company.
> >In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either
> >through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most
> >likely falls under commercial use."
> >
> >with this statements, my interpretation is:
> >we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't
> >sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services
> >around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic
> >advantage" and need professional license.
> >
> >This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph
> >professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know.
> >
> >We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last
> >GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ?
> >
> We need to change to jgraph 1.5.2 and if the GPL version isn't being
> maintained we will need to find an alternative or maintain it ourselves.
>
> Mike
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 14:03:24 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:03:24 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph

Without knowing much about the library API itself, this has the added
advantage that it is PHP4/5 compatible. jpgraph on the other hand, has two
incompatible versions:

PHP4: JpGraph 1.x - series Note: The 1.x series is only for PHP4. It will
not work on PHP5. Version: 1.20.3 (18 Feb 2006)

PHP5: JpGraph 2.x - series Note: The 2.x series is only for PHP5. It will
not work on PHP4 Version: 2.1.1 (19 Feb 2006)

I know we're not supporting PHP5 at the moment, but that's one less thing
to worry about when the time comes. FWIW ran an old version of vtigercrm
on PHP 5 for a while, and jpgraph was the only obvious thing that didn't
work.



From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 14:08:22 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:08:22 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>

Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:

>Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>  
>
>>http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph
>>    
>>
>
>Without knowing much about the library API itself, this has the added
>advantage that it is PHP4/5 compatible. jpgraph on the other hand, has two
>incompatible versions:
>
>PHP4: JpGraph 1.x - series Note: The 1.x series is only for PHP4. It will
>not work on PHP5. Version: 1.20.3 (18 Feb 2006)
>
>PHP5: JpGraph 2.x - series Note: The 2.x series is only for PHP5. It will
>not work on PHP4 Version: 2.1.1 (19 Feb 2006)
>
>I know we're not supporting PHP5 at the moment, but that's one less thing
>to worry about when the time comes. FWIW ran an old version of vtigercrm
>on PHP 5 for a while, and jpgraph was the only obvious thing that didn't
>work.
>  
>
Bye bye jgraph.

Sounds good and we will punt jgraph ASAP.   For now we will use jgraph 
1.5.2 until it is replaced.

Mike


From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 14:05:51 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:05:51 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph

I'd also like to ask the prevailing opinion on what the licensing
difference would be if (graph library X) were an external dependency. 

I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of
course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks
of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but
now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.

Let vtiger worry about its own GPL license only. Let the distro
maintainers, and user-administrator decide if vtigercrm and
well-specified prerequisites are compatible with their free-software
policies.



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 14:27:08 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 20:27:08 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr>

good news :)

we've got an agreement :
* short term :
- replace current jpgraph 1.20.3, and use last gpl release 1.5.2
- indeed, some "regression" tests are needed ...
* long term :
- provide alternative -> Image_Graph, LGPL licensed
http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph

We need also vtiger core team comments, especially for 5.x.
ATM, there's only Image_graph alternative proposal, but if you know a good 
competitor feel free to submit :)

regarding last jeff post:
Image_graph v0.7.1 is in debian (php-image-graph)

debian/ubuntu package are on their way to drop :
* adodb
* squirrelmail
* phpsysinfo

and use distribution package.

cheers,

Fathi


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 14:41:57 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:41:57 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>

Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:

>Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>  
>
>>http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph
>>    
>>
>
>I'd also like to ask the prevailing opinion on what the licensing
>difference would be if (graph library X) were an external dependency. 
>
>I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of
>course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks
>of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but
>now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
>distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.
>  
>

This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the 
vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything 
there.  Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water.  I don't think 
this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues.

>Let vtiger worry about its own GPL license only. Let the distro
>maintainers, and user-administrator decide if vtigercrm and
>well-specified prerequisites are compatible with their free-software
>policies.
>  
>
Hold on here.

Vtiger code is VPL (modified MPL) and forked SPL (borked MPL) code.  
There are several modules that are other licenses.

Nowhere is the vtiger core GPL AFAIK.  I'm pushing to find ways to make 
added files licensed under the LGPL, but haven't gotten very far on that 
so far...

Vtiger team, please stop using the VPL and relicense vtiger code under 
LGPL *only*.


From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 14:46:48 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:46:48 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
References: 
	
	<4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>
	<200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: 

Fathi BOUDRA wrote:
> regarding last jeff post:
> Image_graph v0.7.1 is in debian (php-image-graph)
> 
> debian/ubuntu package are on their way to drop :
> * adodb
> * squirrelmail
> * phpsysinfo
> 
> and use distribution package.

Is there a generally applicable idiom to check the existence and version
number of PHP libraries, much like we do for the gd extension (meaning C
extension, I presume):

   "2.0") { ... }

If so, it would be great to put those in a concise script that is called
by 1checkSystem.php.

This would make it easier to update external
dependencies (without mucking with the PHP templates), and also to
inventory dependency requirements for distro packagers.



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 15:07:27 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 21:07:27 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042107.27158.fboudra@free.fr>

> Vtiger code is VPL (modified MPL) and forked SPL (borked MPL) code.
> There are several modules that are other licenses.
>
> Nowhere is the vtiger core GPL AFAIK.  I'm pushing to find ways to make
> added files licensed under the LGPL, but haven't gotten very far on that
> so far...
>
> Vtiger team, please stop using the VPL and relicense vtiger code under
> LGPL *only*.

seconded on this way.

MPL is considered by some people a "not so free license".
from my point of view, SPL/VPL must be avoided.

At the begining, i searched for a crm software and found sugar.
Drop it in favor of vtigercrm, because of licensing issues.
some people tells me: v5.x will be LGPL.

I already asked about clarification :
http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2006-February/000102.html

no reply ...

cheers,

Fathi


From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 15:22:09 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 21:22:09 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 20:41, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?:
> >I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of
> >course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks
> >of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but
> >now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
> >distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.
> > ?
>
> This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the
> vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything
> there. ?Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water. ?I don't think
> this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues.

from the beginning, there's architectural problem to keep our own copies of 
softwares inside vtigercrm. We must deal with all licenses problem.

We must focus on vigercrm code only and integration with external 
dependencies. Yes, it's only dependencies and not vtigercrm core code.
These 3rd party software must be packaged correctly by packagers, it's their 
job.

vtigercrm really need code cleanup, and a modular view of vtigercrm 
"distribution".



From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 16:17:01 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 22:17:01 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	
	<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com> <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: 

On 3/4/06, Fathi BOUDRA  wrote:
>
> Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 20:41, Mike Fedyk a ?crit:
> > >I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking,
> of
> > >course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private
> snapshots/forks
> > >of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades,
> but
> > >now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
> > >distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.
> > >
> >
> > This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the
> > vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything
> > there. Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water. I don't think
> > this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues.
>
> from the beginning, there's architectural problem to keep our own copies
> of
> softwares inside vtigercrm. We must deal with all licenses problem.
>
> We must focus on vigercrm code only and integration with external
> dependencies. Yes, it's only dependencies and not vtigercrm core code.
> These 3rd party software must be packaged correctly by packagers, it's
> their
> job.
>
> vtigercrm really need code cleanup, and a modular view of vtigercrm
> "distribution".
>


I agree in 100%

at this moment I modularized:

- adodb
- libphp-log4php

and work on:

- squirrelmail
- phpsysinfo
- xtemplate
- tutos

and think about:

- phpBB
- fpdf
- phpmail


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From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 17:11:44 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:11:44 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com> <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>
	
Message-ID: 

Another question - who and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or remove it
completely?


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From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 17:22:23 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:22:23 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	
Message-ID: <200603042322.23411.fboudra@free.fr>

> Another question - who

vtiger maintenance team

> and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or remove it completely ?

scheduled for 4.2.5. We're short in time for 4.2.4.
that can be trivial, but tests are a requirement.

but i'm not 4.2.4 release manager so i prefer mike or matt official 
confirmation.

feel free to submit patch on the ticket that i'll create in some minutes.

cheers,

Fathi


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 17:23:35 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:23:35 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 		<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
	<200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>	
	
Message-ID: <440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>

What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3?  If jgraph is newer than 1.5.2 then 
we're already in violation so leave the current version of jgraph in 
4.2.4 and then we can use 1.5.2 or another replacement in vtiger 4.2.5. 

If vtiger 4.2.3 had 1.5.2 or earlier, then we should just revert and put 
in the replacement when someone has done the patch.

Marcin Antczak wrote:
> Another question - who and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or 
> remove it completely?
>
>
> Marcin
>
>
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From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 17:33:06 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:33:06 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:23, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?:
> What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3 ?

1.20.3 ...

opened:
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 17:34:34 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:34:34 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	<440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>
	<200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <200603042334.34955.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:33, Fathi BOUDRA a ?crit?:
> Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:23, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?:
> > What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3 ?
>
> 1.20.3 ...
>
> opened:
> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58
> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58

typo error :
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/59



From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Sun Mar  5 05:23:56 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:23:56 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Support of MySQL 5 in 4.1 version
Message-ID: 

Hi all,

 

Pursuing my efforts on database compatibility, find joined somme patches
allowing support of MySQL 5.0. Something remarqable to notice is that most
of the changes have the same origin than those for mssql or postgres
support.

 

It also lights up some defects in vtiger database schema, that could help to
solve some issues in current versions.

 

These patches are made to keep compatibility with previous versions of
MySQL. They have been tested with MySQL 4.1.16 (limited test according to
the time I have).

 

Requirements :

upgrade to last version of AXMLS package (1.0.2 include MySQL 5 support) in
adodb directory

patch to adodb-datadict.inc.php to solve MySQL 5.0 bug with default value of
TIMESTAMP fields.

 

CONFIG :

PHP 5.1.2

MySQL 5.0.18

 

ABSTRACT

 

DatabaseSchema :

ON DELETE CASCADE -> ON DELETE NO ACTION (already documented)

change cvcolumnlist index (primary key not unique)

change selectcolumn index (primary key not unique)

change relcriteria index (primary key not unique)

change faqcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing default
value)

change ticketcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing
default value)

 

Utils :

getDBInsertDateValue change empty date ('--') -> '0000-00-00'

replace contact list query joins according to SQL standards

 

CRMEntity, LoginHistory, PopulateComboValues, PopulateReports:

replace default field value from "''" to "DEFAULT"

 

Security :

replace default field value from "''" to "NULL" in Tab INSERT query

 

COMMENTS

 

Database schema, primary key not unique

 

CREATE of cvcolumnlist :
columnindexType=InnoDB
is changed to : cvidcolumnindex columnindexType=InnoDB
cvid is not unique, several columns for same customview TIMESTAMP default values There is probably a bug in MySQL 5.0. CREATE TABLE DATETIME NOT NULL is supposed to default to CURRENT_TIMESTAMP but it doesn't. DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP and DATETIME DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP are not accepted That is the reason of the patch in adodb-datadict.inc.php, it generates : DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT '0000-00-00 00:00:00' which is accepted. Note : I have probably forgotten some clauses in XML schema. Hope this will help in building a more opened software. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/d6524d45/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Patches-4.2.4-MySQL5.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 5188 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/d6524d45/attachment-0001.bin From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Sun Mar 5 05:30:25 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:30:25 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008301c6403f$d0ff2fe0$0a64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hi there, I will have to agree that we shouldn't use technology for technology's sake. Being part of a company that has an entire division that focuses on fixing and solving user interfacing issues, I would have to agree wholeheartedly that doing something just "because we can ("tech superior") and the others are losers (ie. The rest of the world) if they still use IE, the inferior browser which has over 90% of the market but it still cannot beat us, the Firefox elite" is not going to bring a technically superior product to the masses. The concept of working on opensource is great, but to make something that the masses will use, we would have to understand that the success of any good software lies on being as simple and idiot-proof as possible to use/install. PS. Sorry for contributing only now, my usability team and I have been tied up with projects all the way till May. -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Sergio A. Kessler Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:09 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised 1. I don't use IE. 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. /sak On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > >saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two > >vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... > > > >I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website > >within a website"... > > > >look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about... > > > >see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a > >"page" has been broken... > > > >"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, > >since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. > >Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that > >doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their > >way around a website or finding the content they wanted." > > > >what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, > >jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: > >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html > > > > > >it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see > >what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I > >rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling > >the graph part (which is not what I want) > > > > > >/sak > >(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability. > > > > > I'm sorry but I completely disagree. > > Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with > the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the > concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. > > And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll > the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of > IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in > Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! http://zohowriter.com/?vt From saint at vtiger.com Sun Mar 5 03:14:51 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:44:51 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> Message-ID: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module with non-div layout. The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the *Show All Modules*, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables of records as usual. We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? - Saint Brian Devendorf wrote: >I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. > > >On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > >>1. I don't use IE. >> >>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >> >>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >> >> >>/sak >> >>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >> >>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>>>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >>>> >>>>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>>>within a website"... >>>> >>>>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>>>about... >>>> >>>>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>>>of a >>>>"page" has been broken... >>>> >>>>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>>>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>>>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>>>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>>>their >>>>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >>>> >>>>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>>>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>>>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >>>> >>>> >>>>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>>>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>>>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>>>the graph part (which is not what I want) >>>> >>>> >>>>/sak >>>>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>>>usability. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >>> >>>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >>> >>>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>>scroll >>>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>>because of >>>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>>and in >>>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/522932b2/attachment-0001.html From fboudra at free.fr Sun Mar 5 06:44:08 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:44:08 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Support of MySQL 5 in 4.1 version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603051244.09107.fboudra@free.fr> thanks michel, i'll add your patch to ticket 43: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/43 cheers, Fathi Le Dimanche 5 Mars 2006 11:23, Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit?: > Hi all, > > > > Pursuing my efforts on database compatibility, find joined somme patches > allowing support of MySQL 5.0. Something remarqable to notice is that most > of the changes have the same origin than those for mssql or postgres > support. > > > > It also lights up some defects in vtiger database schema, that could help > to solve some issues in current versions. > > > > These patches are made to keep compatibility with previous versions of > MySQL. They have been tested with MySQL 4.1.16 (limited test according to > the time I have). > > > > Requirements : > > upgrade to last version of AXMLS package (1.0.2 include MySQL 5 support) in > adodb directory > > patch to adodb-datadict.inc.php to solve MySQL 5.0 bug with default value > of TIMESTAMP fields. > > > > CONFIG : > > PHP 5.1.2 > > MySQL 5.0.18 > > > > ABSTRACT > > > > DatabaseSchema : > > ON DELETE CASCADE -> ON DELETE NO ACTION (already documented) > > change cvcolumnlist index (primary key not unique) > > change selectcolumn index (primary key not unique) > > change relcriteria index (primary key not unique) > > change faqcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing default > value) > > change ticketcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing > default value) > > > > Utils : > > getDBInsertDateValue change empty date ('--') -> '0000-00-00' > > replace contact list query joins according to SQL standards > > > > CRMEntity, LoginHistory, PopulateComboValues, PopulateReports: > > replace default field value from "''" to "DEFAULT" > > > > Security : > > replace default field value from "''" to "NULL" in Tab INSERT query > > > > COMMENTS > > > > Database schema, primary key not unique > > > > CREATE of cvcolumnlist : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > columnindex > > > > Type=InnoDB > > > >
> > > > is changed to : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cvid > > columnindex > > > > > > columnindex > > > > Type=InnoDB > > > >
> > cvid is not unique, several columns for same customview > > > > TIMESTAMP default values > > > > There is probably a bug in MySQL 5.0. > > > > CREATE TABLE > > DATETIME NOT NULL > > > > is supposed to default to CURRENT_TIMESTAMP but it doesn't. > > > > DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP > > and > > DATETIME DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP > > are not accepted > > > > That is the reason of the patch in adodb-datadict.inc.php, it generates : > > > > DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT '0000-00-00 00:00:00' > > > > which is accepted. > > Note : I have probably forgotten some clauses in XML > schema. > > > > Hope this will help in building a more opened software. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Sun Mar 5 16:43:56 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:43:56 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <440B5B9C.5080403@mikefedyk.com> Sounds good, but a workable middle-ground can be to have only one area in At-a-Glance will be scrollable. This way you can show everything you want, with the tabs always visible but only one part of the page can scroll. Saint wrote: > After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions > about using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. > > For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one > module with non-div layout. > > The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs > in 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. > > The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in > the *Show All Modules*, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. > Though this actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs > from eye-sight) it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching > the page top. Clicking the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top > Leads etc will list the tables of records as usual. > > We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. > Depending on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. > > So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? > > - Saint > > > > > > Brian Devendorf wrote: > >>I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >>not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >>was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >>(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >>two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >>screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >>rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >>small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. >> >> >>On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >>>1. I don't use IE. >>> >>>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >>> >>>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >>> >>> >>>/sak >>> >>>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>>>>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >>>>> >>>>>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>>>>within a website"... >>>>> >>>>>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>>>>about... >>>>> >>>>>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>>>>of a >>>>>"page" has been broken... >>>>> >>>>>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>>>>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>>>>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>>>>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>>>>their >>>>>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >>>>> >>>>>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>>>>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>>>>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>>>>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>>>>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>>>>the graph part (which is not what I want) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>/sak >>>>>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>>>>usability. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >>>> >>>>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>>>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>>>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >>>> >>>>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>>>scroll >>>>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>>>because of >>>>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>>>and in >>>>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>>Writer for FREE instead! >>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > From andre at dreamlab.net Mon Mar 6 05:01:25 2006 From: andre at dreamlab.net (andre at dreamlab.net) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:01:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP support in 5.0 Message-ID: <23469.138.190.15.46.1141639285.squirrel@mailer.dreamlab.net> Hello, I tried to use LDAP as user database backend, but it didn't really work out. I read that the LDAP patches are included, however, some files are missing (authTypes/LDAP.php). But adding those files doesn't really help neither. What is the state of the LDAP integration ? Is there a recent howto or description somewhere ? regards andr? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 05:32:17 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:32:17 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How to stream data directly to database without reading entire file into memory? Message-ID: <440C0FB1.3060205@mikefedyk.com> Hi all, I'm having an issue with the upload code. It reads the entire file into memory and base64 encodes it before sending it to the database. It fails storing a 5MB file with a 32MB memory limit. I looked through the adodb docs and thought I found a solution with UpdateBlobFile, but it reads the entire file into memory also. Searching through google didn't turn anything up for php, I found a few things for VB or .net but that won't help us here. Anyone have a solution? From sergiokessler at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 08:29:44 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 10:29:44 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> hi saint, I don't have a problem with this, but let me point that this is not a new experiment. for a unknow reasons many humans believe they are the first to do what they do, but in fact what they are doing has been tryed many moons ago... and many times has been also analyzed many moons ago... it happens to me in programming every time, when I'am confronted with a problem, my first reaction is "well, I can't be the only one with this problem, sure this problem has been raised before and solved before by someone else" so, instead of wasting my time trying to invent something already invented, I just focus my energy in searching for the available solution. and in my many years of programming I never invented something new :-) and this is exactly what I'm trying to tell you, don't be fooled thinking the problem you face rigth now, is something new to the usability of web systems. you are *not* the first to face this problem, in fact this problem has been raised, studied and analyzed many time ago (it comes from the frames era) and has been the subject of many people specialized in the field of web usability. yes, you can experiment with this problem, I don't have any problem with that, but what you are doing is nothing new. /sak ps: "(you lose the top tabs from eye-sight)" this is not a problem, it happens on almost every site. ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the whole page. On 3/5/06, Saint wrote: > After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about > using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. > > For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module > with non-div layout. > > The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in > 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. > > The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the > Show All Modules, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this > actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) > it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking > the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables > of records as usual. > > We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending > on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. > > So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? > > - Saint > > > > > > > Brian Devendorf wrote: > I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should > not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I > was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels > (guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with > two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" > screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels > rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a > small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. > > > On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > > 1. I don't use IE. > > 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the > vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). > > 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple > scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. > > > /sak > > On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > > saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two > vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... > > I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website > within a website"... > > look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking > about... > > see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept > of a > "page" has been broken... > > "The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, > since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. > Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that > doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding > their > way around a website or finding the content they wanted." > > what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, > jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: > http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html > > > it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see > what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I > rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling > the graph part (which is not what I want) > > > /sak > (*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web > usability. > > > > I'm sorry but I completely disagree. > > Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with > the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the > concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. > > And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't > scroll > the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is > because of > IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox > and in > Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still > using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the > AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho > Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > From libregeek at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 09:03:30 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:33:30 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Module Management Message-ID: <2315046d0603060603i420615d9x@mail.gmail.com> Hello vtiger team, Sorry for cross-posting, earlier I have posted the same thread in Vtiger Forums. I had experimented with dotproject for more than a year and the most striking feature I noticed about dotproject is the module management. In dotproject the mosules can be added and configured from the web-interface and most of them are independent. so we can easily move them off. This gives both site admins and developers much more flexibility and freedom. IMHO, some modules may be identified as core modules and they should be included by default. All other modules may be installed and used at the site admin's descretion. In this way we can avoid some of the modules like Shoutbox, dashboard if it's not required. This also enhance the development of more independent modules/plugins. It will also reduce the tasks of the core developers integrating the new modules. This has more significance now, because vtiger is moving on to new vtigerforge.com and this will also lead to the gradual development of vtigerCRM API. Like to hear from the developers in this regard. TIA Manilal From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 6 10:23:39 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:23:39 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available In-Reply-To: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com> References: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <200603061623.39881.fboudra@free.fr> > Hi Developers, > > The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following > location http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe > > Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as > there was execption during installation. > > Regards, > Rajkumar i looked at your changes as there's a related commit today (r4057) and tested installshield based installer. Installation works fine, but there's some mistake like config.template.php is broken. In htdocs\vtigerCRM dir, config.inc.php and config.template are identical. You re-introduced APACHE and MYSQL parameters, to fix installshield based installer : $mysql_dir = 'MYSQLINSTALLDIR'; $mysql_bundled = 'MYSQLBUNDLEDSTATUS'; $apache_dir = 'APACHEINSTALLDIR'; $apache_bin = 'APACHEBIN'; $apache_conf = 'APACHECONF'; $apache_port = 'APACHEPORT'; $apache_bundled = 'APACHEBUNDLED'; Do you continue to provide installshield based installer for future release or as already proposed, switch to vtigercrm addon for xampp (using nsis installer) ? $root_directory and all related dirs (like $cache_dir) are wrong, must be variables. In previous revision, we've got "_VT_*" You re-introduced version in database name: $db_name = 'vtigercrm4_2_4'; i removed it previously, because we didn't need to have a different database name for each release, and if we want a database versioning, please not in database name. Finally, you fixed installshield based installer but source installer is broken. cheers, Fathi PS: i didn't find any zip with the fixes sent to the mailing list. From saint at vtiger.com Mon Mar 6 10:09:44 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:39:44 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440C50B8.6090601@vtiger.com> Sak, I agree. There may be a solution out there. I will look into the usability resources and find out :-) cheers, Saint Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >hi saint, > >I don't have a problem with this, but let me point that this is not a >new experiment. > >for a unknow reasons many humans believe they are the first to do what >they do, but in fact what they are doing has been tryed many moons >ago... and many times has been also analyzed many moons ago... > >it happens to me in programming every time, when I'am confronted with >a problem, my first reaction is "well, I can't be the only one with >this problem, sure this problem has been raised before and solved >before by someone else" >so, instead of wasting my time trying to invent something already >invented, I just focus my energy in searching for the available >solution. >and in my many years of programming I never invented something new :-) > >and this is exactly what I'm trying to tell you, >don't be fooled thinking the problem you face rigth now, is something >new to the usability of web systems. > >you are *not* the first to face this problem, in fact this problem has >been raised, studied and analyzed many time ago (it comes from the >frames era) >and has been the subject of many people specialized in the field of >web usability. > >yes, you can experiment with this problem, I don't have any problem >with that, but what you are doing is nothing new. > > >/sak >ps: "(you lose the top tabs from eye-sight)" this is not a problem, it >happens on almost every site. >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the >whole page. > > >On 3/5/06, Saint wrote: > > >> After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about >>using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. >> >> For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module >>with non-div layout. >> >> The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in >>2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. >> >> The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the >>Show All Modules, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this >>actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) >>it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking >>the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables >>of records as usual. >> >> We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending >>on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. >> >> So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? >> >> - Saint >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Brian Devendorf wrote: >> I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >>not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >>was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >>(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >>two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >>screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >>rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >>small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. >> >> >>On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >> 1. I don't use IE. >> >>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >> >>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >> >> >>/sak >> >>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >> >> Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >> saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >> >>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>within a website"... >> >>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>about... >> >>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>of a >>"page" has been broken... >> >>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>their >>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >> >>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >> >> >>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>the graph part (which is not what I want) >> >> >>/sak >>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>usability. >> >> >> >> I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >> >>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >> >>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>scroll >>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>because of >>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>and in >>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >> >> _______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your >>desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, >>collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your >>desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, >>collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060306/134a19fa/attachment-0001.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 14:43:09 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 11:43:09 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigercrm 4.2.4rc2 build available In-Reply-To: <109d03d4868.1918216477718176054.8073463117345362115@@vtiger.com> References: <109d03d4868.1918216477718176054.8073463117345362115@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <440C90CD.7040809@mikefedyk.com> Posted in forum. Let's see what they find... Philip wrote: > Hi Developers, > > The exe and bin version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 is available in the following location > > http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.bin > http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.exe > > Regards, > Philip > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 16:03:54 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:03:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the >whole page. > Good. The less printing the better. ;) From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 16:16:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:16:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4057 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: config.template.php install/2setConfig.php In-Reply-To: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> First of all, did you even look at the diff before committing?! >Author: saraj >Date: Mon Mar 6 06:20:40 2006 >New Revision: 4057 > >Log: >changes made to support multiple packaging > >Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/config.template.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php > > > Checking differences without reporting white space: diff -uw config.template.php.r4056 config.template.php.r4057 >Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/config.template.php >--- config.template.php.r4056 2006-03-06 12:01:28.000000000 -0800 >+++ config.template.php.r4057 2006-03-06 12:01:40.000000000 -0800 >@@ -1,17 +1,17 @@ > /********************************************************************************* >- * The contents of this file are subject to the SugarCRM Public License Version 1.1.2 >- * ("License"); You may not use this file except in compliance with the >- * License. You may obtain a copy of the License at http://www.sugarcrm.com/SPL >- * Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" basis, >- * WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License for >- * the specific language governing rights and limitations under the License. >- * The Original Code is: SugarCRM Open Source >- * The Initial Developer of the Original Code is SugarCRM, Inc. >- * Portions created by SugarCRM are Copyright (C) SugarCRM, Inc.; >- * All Rights Reserved. >- * Contributor(s): ______________________________________. >-********************************************************************************/ >+3 * The contents of this file are subject to the SugarCRM Public License Version 1.1.2 >+4 * ("License"); You may not use this file except in compliance with the >+5 * License. You may obtain a copy of the License at http://www.sugarcrm.com/SPL >+6 * Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" basis, >+7 * WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License for >+8 * the specific language governing rights and limitations under the License. >+9 * The Original Code is: SugarCRM Open Source >+10 * The Initial Developer of the Original Code is SugarCRM, Inc. >+11 * Portions created by SugarCRM are Copyright (C) SugarCRM, Inc.; >+12 * All Rights Reserved. >+13 * Contributor(s): ______________________________________. >+14 ********************************************************************************/ > > include('vtigerversion.php'); > >@@ -33,20 +33,30 @@ > $HELPDESK_SUPPORT_NAME = 'your-domain name'; > > /* database configuration >- db_server >- db_port >- db_hostname >- db_username >- db_password >- db_name >-*/ >+36 db_server >+37 db_port >+38 db_hostname >+39 db_username >+40 db_password >+41 db_name >+42 */ >+ $mysql_dir = 'MYSQLINSTALLDIR'; > > Oh goody! We have number prefixes now! > >+ $mysql_bundled = 'MYSQLBUNDLEDSTATUS'; > NO This is not used in the code and if the installer needs it, then have the installer make a file that keeps track of this info (or use the registry). > $dbconfig['db_server'] = '_DBC_SERVER_'; >-$dbconfig['db_port'] = ':_DBC_PORT_'; >-$dbconfig['db_username'] = '_DBC_USER_'; >-$dbconfig['db_password'] = '_DBC_PASS_'; > $dbconfig['db_name'] = '_DBC_NAME_'; > $dbconfig['db_type'] = '_DBC_TYPE_'; >+$apache_dir = 'APACHEINSTALLDIR'; >+$apache_bin = 'APACHEBIN'; >+$apache_conf = 'APACHECONF'; >+$apache_port = 'APACHEPORT'; >+ $apache_bundled = 'APACHEBUNDLED'; > Same here. Don't keep variables used for the installer in the vtiger source. >+ $dbconfig['db_username'] = '_DBC_USER_'; >+ $dbconfig['db_password'] = '_DBC_PASS_'; >+ $dbconfig['db_port'] = ':_DBC_PORT_'; >+ $mysql_username = '_DBC_USER_'; >+ $mysql_password = '_DBC_PASS_'; >+ $mysql_port = '_DBC_PORT_'; > You are now duplicating variables! > > // TODO: test if port is empty > // TODO: set db_hostname dependending on db_type >@@ -78,24 +88,24 @@ > $site_URL = '_SITE_URL_'; > > // root directory path >-$root_directory = '_VT_ROOTDIR_'; >+ $root_directory = 'C:\Program Files\vtigerCRM4.2.4\apache\htdocs\vtigerCRM/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // cache direcory path >-$cache_dir = '_VT_CACHEDIR_'; >+ $cache_dir = 'cache/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // tmp_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = images/ >-$tmp_dir = '_VT_TMPDIR_'; >+ $tmp_dir = 'cache/images/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // import_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = import/ >-$import_dir = '_VT_IMPORTDIR_'; >+ $import_dir = 'cache/import/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // upload_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = upload/ >-$upload_dir = '_VT_UPLOADDIR_'; >+ $upload_dir = 'cache/upload/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // mail server parameters >-$mail_server = '_MAIL_SERVER_'; >-$mail_server_username = '_MAIL_USERNAME_'; >-$mail_server_password = '_MAIL_PASSWORD_'; >+ $mail_server = ''; >+ $mail_server_username = ''; >+ $mail_server_password = ''; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. >Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php >============================================================================== >--- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php (original) >+++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php Mon Mar 6 06:20:40 2006 >@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ > $cache_dir = "cache/"; > > if (is_file("config.php") && is_file("config.inc.php")) { >- require_once("config.php"); >+ require_once("config.template.php"); > > Bad. config.template.php is not meant to be called from the code. It is only used by the installer. > session_start(); > > if(isset($upload_maxsize)) >@@ -100,10 +100,10 @@ > > if (isset($_REQUEST['db_name'])) > $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; >- elseif (isset($dbconfig['db_name'])) >+ elseif (isset($dbconfig['db_name']) && $dbconfig['db_name']!='_DBC_NAME_') > > Bad. The keywords are supposed to be replaced by the installer by search and replace. > $db_name = $dbconfig['db_name']; > else >- $db_name = 'vtigercrm'; >+ $db_name = 'vtigercrm4_2_4'; > > Bad. I see no reason to have the version in the database name. > > !isset($_REQUEST['db_drop_tables']) ? $db_drop_tables = "0" : $db_drop_tables = $_REQUEST['db_drop_tables']; > >@@ -143,7 +143,7 @@ > !isset($_REQUEST['db_username']) ? $db_username = $mysql_username : $db_username = $_REQUEST['db_username']; > !isset($_REQUEST['db_password']) ? $db_password= $mysql_password : $db_password = $_REQUEST['db_password']; > */ >- !isset($_REQUEST['db_name']) ? $db_name = "vtigercrm" : $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; >+ !isset($_REQUEST['db_name']) ? $db_name = "vtigercrm4_2_4" : $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; > > Bad. I see no reason to have the version in the database name. From larenas at internext.com.mx Tue Mar 7 06:36:00 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:36:00 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4057 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: config.template.php install/2setConfig.php In-Reply-To: <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> References: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <440D7020.8060308@internext.com.mx> Hi, somebody can help me, I dont know how register a deliver, i just can register accounts, customers, etc. From jamieinnh at gmail.com Tue Mar 7 16:18:04 2006 From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:18:04 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <994473020603071318h574b9df2g6ff89ece94324e02@mail.gmail.com> Here is an example in real life how a scroll bar within a browser, and how it distracts from the UI of the article. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11485858/ Something like this are things we should avoid when thinking about the UI in vTiger Jamie On 3/6/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the > >whole page. > > > Good. The less printing the better. ;) > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Le Mercredi 8 Mars 2006 16:37, vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com a ?crit : > Author: saraj > Date: Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 2006 > New Revision: 4079 > > Log: > changes made to point to install.php after installation > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php > =========================================================================== >=== --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 2006 > @@ -356,7 +356,7 @@ > } > > require_once('config.inc.php'); > -if (!isset($dbconfig['db_hostname'])) { > +if (!isset($dbconfig['db_hostname']) || > $dbconfig['db_status']=='_DB_STAT_') { header("Location: install.php"); > exit(); > } > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php > =========================================================================== >=== --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php (original) +++ > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 > 2006 @@ -158,6 +158,7 @@ > $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_SERVER_", $mail_server, $buffer); > $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_USERNAME_", $mail_server_username, > $buffer); $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_PASSWORD_", $mail_server_password, > $buffer); + $buffer = str_replace( "_DB_STAT_", "true", $buffer); > > fwrite($includeHandle, $buffer); > } > > > _______________________________________________ > vtigercrm-commits mailing list > vtigercrm-commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > http://lists.vtigercrm.com/mailman/listinfo/vtigercrm-commits From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 8 12:47:33 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:47:33 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please add me to your developer list In-Reply-To: <200603081506.k28F627L016309@vtigerforge.com> References: <200603081506.k28F627L016309@vtigerforge.com> Message-ID: <440F18B5.1040700@mikefedyk.com> You need to go to http://lists.vtigercrm.com to subscribe to the list. We can't do it for you. Information Team wrote: >Please add me to your developer list > >Many thanks > >Gary Mitchell > > > > >Phone: +44 (0) 870 490 1261 >Fax: +44 (0)871 661 7137 >Email: info at everydaysolutions.co.uk >Web: www.everydaysolutions.co.uk > >The information contained in this document is privileged information and is >intended for the personal and confidential use of the addressee only. If you >are not the intended recipient, any review, distribution or copying of this >document is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately and >delete the document from all computer systems. All title copyrights and >intellectual property rights in and attached to this email their content and >any copies thereof are owned by Everyday Solutions. All rights not >expressly granted are reserved by Everyday Solutions. > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From larenas at internext.com.mx Wed Mar 8 07:57:10 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:57:10 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME Message-ID: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers nothing. Help please. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 8 15:29:04 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:29:04 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> References: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <440F3E90.2080000@mikefedyk.com> Does this patch fix the problem? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers >nothing. > >Help please. >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From philip at vtiger.com Wed Mar 8 13:18:51 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:18:51 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Updated rc2 version - installation issues fixed Message-ID: <109db152c88.-8674574812899896242.64192681946233716@@vtiger.com> Hi Developers, The updated versions of exe and bin for vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 is available in the following location, installation fixes has been incorporated in the updated builds http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.bin http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.exe Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just call "php install.php" to do the database population and you're done. I also told Philip to copy config.template.php to config.inc.php thinking he was going to replace all keywords during the exe/bin installation so as soon as the exe/bin installer is finished,you can login to vtiger. But if you want to have the config.template.php file changed instead that's fine. -------------------------- final words, if you use source installer to finish installation, you can use the method "patch template". If you bypass source installer, i agree with mike, you can copy template to inc and do your add-in on it. 2 differents solutions to same problem. i'm for the solution where you do all installation stuff in installer without using source installer in "3rd party" package (i mean not source installer). cheers, Fathi From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Wed Mar 8 18:50:25 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 23:50:25 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Removing crmentity Message-ID: <86f04e340603081550j7072ebf1t8ca904480dc5a526@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, To delete one crmentity in vtiger php pages, it is "update crmentity set deleted = 1 where...", marking it as deleted (mark_deleted method) and all relationships: recurringevent, activity_reminder, ... are "delete from ...". (Delete.php in each module) But in vtigerolservice.php (vtiger5) the activities are only marked as deleted!... How about relationships ? My question is: why this kind of operations aren't centralized in entity class ? Create, Retrieve, Update, Delete... Best Regards, Juao -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060308/276a7f5c/attachment-0001.html From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 9 07:18:27 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:18:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 Message-ID: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> Hi, Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Our feedback aren't listened ... just an example : database name versioning Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. we change/ you change game isn't funny ... best regards, Fathi From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 09:46:58 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:46:58 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 In-Reply-To: <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> References: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> Don't worry about it fathi. The binary installers never worked for shit before, and why should that change? There is a reason why I have recommended to everyone to use XAMPP 1.4.15 in the forums. Once we replace binary the installers this problem will be solved. Mike Fathi Boudra wrote: >>Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. >> >> > >Our feedback aren't listened ... >just an example : database name versioning > >Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. > >we change/ you change game isn't funny ... > >best regards, > >Fathi >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From andre at dreamlab.net Thu Mar 9 10:10:49 2006 From: andre at dreamlab.net (Andre Roth) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:10:49 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP Message-ID: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? Where can I find documentation about this ? Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on line 530 Thanks for your help Andr? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 12:19:23 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:19:23 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 In-Reply-To: <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> References: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <4410639B.1000105@mikefedyk.com> Hi everyone, Richie and I have discussed this issue, and agreed to spread this out over 4.2.4 and 4.2.5. A lot has been changed in the binary installers in a short time (including the build system to SVN) so I'm willing to accept it the way it is for the 4.2.4 release as long as everything works on all sides. That includes, the source installer, ubuntu/debian installer and linux/windows bin/exe installer. I think that is possible with the changes that have been made so far. Correct me if that isn't the case. After that we can spend the next ~4 weeks getting it ready for the 4.2.5 release. I hope we can all agree on this. I'm planning on making an 4.2.4rc3 release in the next few days with any installer fixes that are required, so any help in testing the installers for these previous states during install would be much appreciated. case1: no previous installation of mysql or apache. case2: no previous installation of mysql but apache is already installed. case3: previous installation of mysql but apache is not installed. case4: both apache and mysql already installed. Mike Mike Fedyk wrote: >Don't worry about it fathi. The binary installers never worked for shit >before, and why should that change? There is a reason why I have >recommended to everyone to use XAMPP 1.4.15 in the forums. Once we >replace binary the installers this problem will be solved. > >Mike > >Fathi Boudra wrote: > > > >>>Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Our feedback aren't listened ... >>just an example : database name versioning >> >>Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. >> >>we change/ you change game isn't funny ... >> >>best regards, >> >>Fathi >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From andre.roth at dreamlab.net Thu Mar 9 10:08:11 2006 From: andre.roth at dreamlab.net (Andre Roth) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:08:11 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP Message-ID: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? Where can I find documentation about this ? Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on line 530 Thanks for your help Andr? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060309/0d675a9a/attachment-0001.bin From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 9 12:36:59 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:36:59 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 Message-ID: <109e015334f.-3220625800868453815.-2820986651640595013@@vtiger.com> Hi, I thought i have discussed about the feedback over the chat. Please see my reply below. Regarding Installation using bin or exe the database and apacheparameters are populated in the config.inc.php, the config.template.phpfile is not disturbed at any time. Copying config.template.php toconfig.inc.php and replacing all keywords during the exe/bininstallation has been handled. Other feedbacks which includes changing the hardcorded db values, andthe versioning were not taken up in this version as we are not sureabout the consequence and the impacts in changing the existing setup,but can be taken up with 4.2.5 after having a series of testing. Regards, Philip >Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. Our feedback aren't listened ... just an example : database name versioning Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. we change/ you change game isn't funny ... best regards, Fathi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060309/2cda1fcb/attachment-0001.html From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 07:15:33 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:15:33 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME PLEASE Message-ID: <44101C65.3020403@internext.com.mx> I had ploblems with quotes module, but i resolve it changing save.php file, but when i do it some other problems appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *445* From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 14:48:06 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:48:06 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME PLEASE In-Reply-To: <44101C65.3020403@internext.com.mx> References: <44101C65.3020403@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <44108676.3010609@mikefedyk.com> What changes did you make (post the section of code you changed or make a diff with winmerge)? Did you try the changes I referenced to in your other post? Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >I had ploblems with quotes module, but i resolve it changing save.php >file, but when i do it some other problems appears: > >*Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in >*/var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *445* >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 10:54:36 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:54:36 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module Message-ID: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> well, i try to say you what's my problem 1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. 2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you help me? * From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 18:02:41 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:02:41 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module In-Reply-To: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> References: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4410B411.3010100@mikefedyk.com> Sorry, I can't help you until you post the changes you made. Did you try the patch I pointed out to you? Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >well, i try to say you what's my problem > >1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it >not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. > >2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message >appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in >*/var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 > >i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you >help me? >* >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 11:30:23 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:30:23 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] More Information for my problem Message-ID: <4410581F.7040006@internext.com.mx> The error that happen is in the next function: **********************Function in data/PearDatabase.php********************** function query_result(&$result, $row, $col=0) { //$this->println("ADODB query_result r=".$row." c=".$col); not exist-------> $result->Move($row); $rowdata = $this->change_key_case($result->FetchRow()); //$this->println($rowdata); $coldata = $rowdata[$col]; //$this->println("ADODB query_result ". $coldata); return $coldata; } From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 11:47:51 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:47:51 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I send you the image of my problem Message-ID: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> Please see the image and help me -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: error.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 144307 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060309/1eb55079/attachment-0001.jpe From dan.means at teamsrs.com Thu Mar 9 19:34:04 2006 From: dan.means at teamsrs.com (Dan Means) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:34:04 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module In-Reply-To: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> References: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4410C97C.1000704@teamsrs.com> Your problem is most likely in your changes to the save.php module -- you need to post your mods. Most likely, you've got a problem in the sql syntax in the save.php module. I had to make some changes in the "savesalesorder" version. If you added a new field/column, you have to fix your insert to explicitly create the values for each column name & values. Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > well, i try to say you what's my problem > > 1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it > not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. > > 2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message > appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in > */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 > > i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you > help me? > * > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > -- Dan Means Mission Viejo, CA www.dkmeansonline.com www.teamsrs.com From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 19:34:29 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:34:29 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP In-Reply-To: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4410C995.90109@mikefedyk.com> I don't think that is a very popular mod you're trying. Can you post the changes you have done and your environment like PHP, MySQL version, etc. Mike Andre Roth wrote: >Hello, > >I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. > >Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? >Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? >Where can I find documentation about this ? >Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? > >I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: > >Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object >in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on >line 530 > > >Thanks for your help > > Andr? > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From libregeek at gmail.com Fri Mar 10 00:52:51 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:22:51 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP In-Reply-To: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <2315046d0603092152y4e25f7ccv@mail.gmail.com> On 09/03/06, Andre Roth wrote: > > Hello, > > I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. > > Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? > Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? > Where can I find documentation about this ? > Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I followed the steps given below and it's working fine. http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=1689 regards Manilal From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Fri Mar 10 02:52:54 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:52:54 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I send you the image of my problem In-Reply-To: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> References: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <1141977175.5698.8.camel@linux.site> Just my 2 cents, this list is called vtigercrm-developpers. For free support you have vtiger forum. For enterprise class support you can contact vtiger. For Quotes, this is a tips, you can't create Quotes before having created a potential, no need to change save.php. May be your problem is more complex than explain, use the forum, you can have more answer. Thanks, Aissa Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 ? 17:47 +0100, Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas a ?crit : > Please see the image and help me > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From richie at vtiger.com Fri Mar 10 04:59:56 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:59:56 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Need volunteers for integrating 4.2.4 onwards fixes into 5.0 Message-ID: <109e3991dc8.5278160118441625590.4984050560728575825@@vtiger.com> Hello! I need help in porting the fixes from 4.2.4 onwards to 5.0. Those interested please let me know. To integrate the fixes means to peruse through all the changesets and pickup those that are required. This will basically mean that we have to go through n number of changesets. I am willing to listen to any smart ways to go ahead with this process. Please pitch in for help. Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060310/006a131a/attachment-0001.html From mickie at vtiger.com Fri Mar 10 05:57:19 2006 From: mickie at vtiger.com (Mickie) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:57:19 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger Message-ID: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> Dear Team, I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 Migration with your help. so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration(Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 youcan see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so thiswill need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know ifyou have any other ideas to do this migration. In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to testthe migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2and for the new migration script). Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. Thanks & Regards Mickie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mickie wrote: > Dear Team, > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > Migration with your help. > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sat Mar 11 12:32:57 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:32:57 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Is somebody working on Image Graph? I have started some writing on Graph.php basis, here is a first result : It doesn't seem so much difficult to migrate, but documentation is very poor. So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be useful. TIA Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060311/984c3867/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be > useful. > > TIA > > Michel > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sat Mar 11 23:27:28 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:27:28 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <44134378.7070000@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Yes I do. There will be probably some minor changes in graph appearance but it can be done. What I have done on leads by sales stage graph does not require to change algorithm so it can be fast. Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk > Envoy??: samedi 11 mars 2006 22:39 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph > > This is great Michel! > > Do you think this can be done for all graphs in vtiger in the next few > weeks? If so we may be able to get this into 4.2.5. > > Mike > > Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > > > Is somebody working on Image Graph? > > > > I have started some writing on Graph.php basis, here is a first result : > > > > It doesn?t seem so much difficult to migrate, but documentation is > > very poor. So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be > > useful. > > > > TIA > > > > Michel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 13 01:27:13 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:27:13 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph Message-ID: Hi all, I think that result is not so bad on pipeline by sales stage, so . You cannot see it on the picture but targets and alts are working. Remaining 2 minor problems for which I have not been able to find a solution : The ticks on category axis cannot be placed correctly Not able to avoid grid lines to be foreground I will document the code as soon I release the replacing Charts.php. Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/da6a166e/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Anand From wildfire at progsoc.org Sun Mar 12 20:49:05 2006 From: wildfire at progsoc.org (Anand Kumria) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:49:05 +1100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] list not moderated References: <40110.3757824332$1141024115@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:08:05 -0800, Richie wrote: > Dear Team, > > The mailing list is not moderated anymore. > The moderation was removed quite a long time ago. Well the mailing list certainly claims to be at the moment. Anand From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 04:02:25 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:02:25 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] list not moderated In-Reply-To: References: <40110.3757824332$1141024115@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: <44153521.7030801@mikefedyk.com> Anand Kumria wrote: >On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:08:05 -0800, Richie wrote: > > > >>Dear Team, >> >>The mailing list is not moderated anymore. >>The moderation was removed quite a long time ago. >> >> > >Well the mailing list certainly claims to be at the moment. > > There is a list of people who can post unmoderated. Everyone else is moderated. Be good and you'll be added to the unmoderated list. ;) From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 13 04:20:16 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:20:16 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] repository location? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603131020.17105.fboudra@free.fr> > Hi, hi > According to and > subsequently , the > repository is available via Sourceforge CVS. > > Indeed, looking through the Sourceforge CVS browser you can see changes > made ~11 days ago for the 5.0 Alpha 2 release. > However according to various posts on this mailing list, information on > the repository is available from > . > Which one is correct? I'd certainly appreciate it if someone could fixup > the initial links if they are incorrect. Are they seperate trees? If so, > what is the relationship between them? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage is the correct one. cheers, Fathi From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 04:06:52 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:06:52 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] repository location? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4415362C.8010502@mikefedyk.com> We switched to SVN a few weeks ago. Use that. We're waiting for the vtiger core team to make some changes to the backend of vtiger.com before the wiki can be cleaned up. Anand Kumria wrote: >Hi, > >According to and >subsequently , the >repository is available via Sourceforge CVS. > >Indeed, looking through the Sourceforge CVS browser you can see changes >made ~11 days ago for the 5.0 Alpha 2 release. > >However according to various posts on this mailing list, information on >the repository is available from >. > >Which one is correct? I'd certainly appreciate it if someone could fixup >the initial links if they are incorrect. Are they seperate trees? If so, >what is the relationship between them? > >Thanks, >Anand > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 13 04:31:29 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:31:29 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Le Lundi 13 Mars 2006 07:27, Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit : > Hi all, hi michel > I think that result is not so bad on pipeline by sales stage, so . > You cannot see it on the picture but targets and alts are working. > Remaining 2 minor problems for which I have not been able to find a > solution > The ticks on category axis cannot be placed correctly > Not able to avoid grid lines to be foreground > I will document the code as soon I release the replacing Charts.php. i don't know if that can help you, this project use image_graph, and can be a source example : http://secureideas.sourceforge.net cheers, Fathi From mickie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 13 04:41:24 2006 From: mickie at vtiger.com (Mickie) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:41:24 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger In-Reply-To: <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> References: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <109f2fb3d66.-339647440922358887.-7786347594590860361@@vtiger.com> Hi Mike, Thanks for your suggestions. i agree. This sugar migration script should go into vtigerforge or cvs. we will checkin these files ASAP. Regarding the integration with import functions, as of now we canimport any other systems data through import option if that data is inCSV file. Generalizing the migration process means whether we want make thismigration script as general to all systems? how is this possible? Please excuse me if i am wrong and let me know some more informations. Thanks & Regards Mickie ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ---- Hi Mickie, I think this should either go into the vtigerforge or in the main source base. Maybe we should integrate this with the import functions. That would help with generalizing the migration process and allow migration from other systems than sugar also. Mickie wrote: > Dear Team, > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > Migration with your help. > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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This sugar migration script should go into vtigerforge or > cvs. we will checkin these files ASAP. > > Regarding the integration with import functions, as of now we can > import any other systems data through import option if that data is in > CSV file. > Generalizing the migration process means whether we want make this > migration script as general to all systems? how is this possible? > Please excuse me if i am wrong and let me know some more informations. > > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > > > > ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ---- > > Hi Mickie, > > I think this should either go into the vtigerforge or in the main source > base. > > Maybe we should integrate this with the import functions. That would > help with generalizing the migration process and allow migration from > other systems than sugar also. > > Mickie wrote: > > > Dear Team, > > > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > > Migration with your help. > > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > > Thanks & Regards > > Mickie > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com Mon Mar 13 08:18:08 2006 From: mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com (Mike Crowe) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:18:08 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? Message-ID: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> Hi folks, I had finally had it, so I used phpCodeBeautifier to reformat all of the source in 4.2.4 and I'm very pleased. (http://www.waterproof.fr/products/phpCodeBeautifier/). However, as imagined, diff's are now screwed up, mainly because of 1 issue: I like: if ( blah, blah ) { /// } I can only get phpCB to do: if ( blah, blah ) { //// } I've attached main index.php for you to see. Are you interested in applying to trunk? Cheers! Mike Yahoo: mikecrowe MSNM: mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com Gmail: drmikecrowe at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Are you interested in > applying to trunk? seconded, not perfect but do a great job. we can probably change slightly formating rules to do add extra space after else statement ? : }elseif ( }else{ and if it's ok for all, update : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/CodingStyle according to phpcodebeautifier. From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 13 10:25:07 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:25:07 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi Fathi, Thanks a lot, I will have a look on it but I think that I have got some knowledge on Image Graph ans that I am going faster enough (here is the second one) : Half of the way done! Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra > Envoy? : lundi 13 mars 2006 10:31 > ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph > > hi michel > > i don't know if that can help you, this project use image_graph, and can > be a > source example : http://secureideas.sourceforge.net > > cheers, > > Fathi > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please feel free to pitch in your views. a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two different beasts. Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. To briefly mention our status over here :- We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we write, I will be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to integrate the required UIs esp that of the Security module. Kindly put forward your views so that together, we can make vtiger crm a better product, a better experience. Thank You, Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Additionally, there's the pain point of ensuring the PostgreSQL fixes don't break the existing MySQL support. If you have any recommendations around how you would like this to play out, please let me know. I have some time coming up where I could assist. Mike, let us know what you're thoughts are and we can proceed from there. Ideally, I think we should make the changes in one fell-swoop so that they're pulled into the mainline branch right away. Is there a window of 3 days, say 2 weeks from now, where we could do this? Regards, - Joel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those relationships from database. IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some other issues came up...). Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other modules are affected too... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Does this patch fix the problem? > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 > > Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > > >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > > > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers > >nothing. > > > >Help please. > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice > there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 > of the following issues: > > * Undeclared variables > * Include headers reference files that don't exist > * Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > > Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean > this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a > profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance > out of it. > > Regards, > > - Joel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/877b0e22/attachment-0003.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 15:27:14 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:27:14 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415D5A2.3020407@mikefedyk.com> As soon as 4.2.4 releases, there will be a branch created for postgres support. 4.2.5 will move along, (I'm planning on one release per month) and the parts ready in the postgres branch will be merged. This avoids hurrying the postgres support and doesn't delay 4.2.5 if things don't go as planned. Mike Joel Rydbeck wrote: >Mike / Allan / Jeff, > >My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > >1. Allan has some major changes that will probably need to be checked in (last I saw was a delta for the 4.2.4 release). >2. I'd like to go through and make sure everything else is working. There are some nuances like quotation marks, and odd-spacing that break the SQL standard and thus PostgreSQL. >3. Jeff may be on-board for testing the PG side, but I haven't spoken with him for awhile. >4. Additionally, there's the pain point of ensuring the PostgreSQL fixes don't break the existing MySQL support. If you have any recommendations around how you would like this to play out, please let me know. I have some time coming up where I could assist. > >Mike, let us know what you're thoughts are and we can proceed from there. Ideally, I think we should make the changes in one fell-swoop so that they're pulled into the mainline branch right away. Is there a window of 3 days, say 2 weeks from now, where we could do this? > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 15:34:15 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:34:15 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when we're not preparing for a release.. Mike Joel Rydbeck wrote: >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 of the following issues: > >* Undeclared variables >* Include headers reference files that don't exist >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance out of it. > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 16:16:54 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:16:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> Someone on the forums addressed a bunch of the notice errors (sorry I don't recall who). I think most of the changes made it into 4.2.2 but I could be mistaken. Surprisingly (to me at least) cleaning up the notice errors offered a substantial speed increase. On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php > is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is > to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. > > I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when > we're not preparing for a release.. > > Mike > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 of the following issues: > > > >* Undeclared variables > >* Include headers reference files that don't exist > >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > > > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance out of it. > > > >Regards, > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From arodes at onweald.com Mon Mar 13 16:17:57 2006 From: arodes at onweald.com (Andrew Rodes) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:17:57 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603131149m50f51515oa6097d05f993a020@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> Try the patch with http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/51 I basically implemented the solution recommended a few weeks ago and submitted the patch with tic #51. I noticed that it appears this patch has not been rolled into the working branch at http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2/, but im not totally sure where the current release candidate code is. anyway .. try this patch and let us know what you found. In my testing, Quotes appeared to start working. during my testing with that patch. Also, I submitted bug 48, which I think may have a similar root cause as 51, but i have not had time to implement a fix. Andy Rodes Onweald _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Joao Oliveira Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:50 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME Hello, I've doing some tests today in vtiger, and quotes still doesn't work. The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those relationships from database. IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some other issues came up...). Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other modules are affected too... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: Does this patch fix the problem? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers >nothing. > >Help please. >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/33b07741/attachment-0001.html From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 16:25:02 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:25:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? In-Reply-To: <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> I'd love to see the code reformatted. I agree with phpCB though it should be: if ( blah, blah ) { //// } ;p Anything that's consistent would be great though. The problem of course is you kind of mess up the repository checking in a bunch of changes like that. If it was done first thing after the 4.2.4 release it shouldn't effect anyone working off of SVN too badly but it would make patches created by users using the release more difficult to integrate. On 3/13/06, Fathi Boudra wrote: > > I've attached main index.php for you to see. Are you interested in > > applying to trunk? > > seconded, not perfect but do a great job. > > we can probably change slightly formating rules to do add extra space after > else statement ? : > }elseif ( > }else{ > > and if it's ok for all, update : > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/CodingStyle > > according to phpcodebeautifier. > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 16:39:41 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:39:41 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86f04e340603131339t4928ae36o2f034d2b0d48e4e@mail.gmail.com> i think it was Terry (aka tigerincanada) in this topic http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3529 On 3/13/06, Allan Bush wrote: > > Someone on the forums addressed a bunch of the notice errors (sorry I > don't recall who). I think most of the changes made it into 4.2.2 but > I could be mistaken. Surprisingly (to me at least) cleaning up the > notice errors offered a substantial speed increase. > > On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php > > is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is > > to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. > > > > I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when > > we're not preparing for a release.. > > > > Mike > > > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > > > >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately > --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, > I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc > results in 5-20 of the following issues: > > > > > >* Undeclared variables > > >* Include headers reference files that don't exist > > >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe > items > > > > > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean > this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a > profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance > out of it. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/067b256c/attachment-0003.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 16:57:36 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:57:36 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4415EAD0.3050709@mikefedyk.com> Allan Bush wrote: >I'd love to see the code reformatted. I agree with phpCB though it should be: > >if ( blah, blah ) { > //// >} > > >;p > > I like that formatting also, as long as it is with *tabs not spaces*. >Anything that's consistent would be great though. The problem of >course is you kind of mess up the repository checking in a bunch of >changes like that. If it was done first thing after the 4.2.4 release >it shouldn't effect anyone working off of SVN too badly but it would >make patches created by users using the release more difficult to >integrate. > I'd be willing to take formatting fixes on a per-file basis as long as the actual patch that does the reformatting doesn't included any non-formatting changes. I think reformatting the entire source tree would be a bad step at this point. But if you are making changes in a certain area, submit a formatting fix patch for that area and I'll take it. Mike From larenas at internext.com.mx Mon Mar 13 10:23:11 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:23:11 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! Message-ID: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> I can't create a sales order from quote registry, if i try create sale order in quotes view, i can view the order created but i can't save it. My version of vtiger: *Version: * 4.2 GA Mysql : 4.1 PHP: 4 APACHE: 2 an other question can you say me the url for csv stage 2? Thanks. From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 17:27:34 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:27:34 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> References: <86f04e340603131149m50f51515oa6097d05f993a020@mail.gmail.com> <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> Message-ID: <86f04e340603131427y48e20b48w6f941e633f6330e5@mail.gmail.com> Hello Andrew, With that patch I've successfully insert one quote in database. Thus, when i go to Quotes ListView php came up with the following error: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in * c:\inetpub\wwwroot\vtiger42\include\database\PearDatabase.php* on line *440 *The error happens in line 3146 of include/utils.php: ---- elseif($module == 'Quotes' && $name == 'Potential Name') { $potential_id = $adb->query_result($list_result,$i-1,"potentialid"); $potential_name = getPotentialName($potential_id); $value = ''.$potential_name.''; } ---- When vtiger try to call getPotentialName() and potentialid passed is null. This kind of troubles start to came up when we pass from '' to null... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira. On 3/13/06, Andrew Rodes wrote: > > Try the patch with http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/51 > > I basically implemented the solution recommended a few weeks ago and > submitted the patch with tic #51. I noticed that it appears this patch has > not been rolled into the working branch at > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2/, but im not > totally sure where the current release candidate code is. > > anyway .. try this patch and let us know what you found. In my testing, > Quotes appeared to start working. during my testing with that patch. > Also, I submitted bug 48, which I think may have a similar root cause as > 51, but i have not had time to implement a fix. > > > Andy Rodes > Onweald > > ------------------------------ > *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto: > vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *On Behalf Of *Joao > Oliveira > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2006 1:50 PM > *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME > > Hello, > > I've doing some tests today in vtiger, and quotes still doesn't work. > > The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: > > insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, > team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, > adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) > values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', > 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') > > when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the > generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. > > It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those > relationships from database. > IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to > insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some > other issues came up...). > > Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other > modules are affected too... > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira > > On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > > Does this patch fix the problem? > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 > > > > Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > > > > >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > > > > > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers > > >nothing. > > > > > >Help please. > > >_______________________________________________ > > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/e42168f8/attachment-0001.html From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 17:50:46 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:50:46 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: Joel Rydbeck wrote: > Mike / Allan / Jeff, > > My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > would work best from a timeline for making the changes? The original idea was to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production instance on mysql. I propose the following: - Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough assent, IMO. - I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. - As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. Thoughts? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 18:00:37 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:00:37 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! In-Reply-To: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> References: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4415F995.3050906@mikefedyk.com> I suggest you look at the name of this list. You have been referred to patches that will help solve the bug you are encountering. This is the area for competent developers. We will point you in the right direction but not do the work for free. If you can't apply a patch, then I suggest you contact one of us privately for paid support and/or hosting. Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >I can't create a sales order from quote registry, if i try create sale >order in quotes view, i can view the order created but i can't save it. > >My version of vtiger: *Version: * 4.2 GA >Mysql : 4.1 >PHP: 4 >APACHE: 2 > >an other question can you say me the url for csv stage 2? > >Thanks. > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 18:04:34 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:04:34 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415FA82.50108@mikefedyk.com> I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. Mike Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >> >>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >> >> > >The original idea was to keep >vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it >could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >instance on mysql. > >I propose the following: > >- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >assent, IMO. > >- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in >sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity >of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity >on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. > >- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap >into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >Thoughts? > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 18:01:49 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:01:49 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> <4415EAD0.3050709@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > I think reformatting the entire source tree would be a bad step at this > point. Several subversion books have concurred that wholesale code beautification is a problem for concurrent developers, and historical diff viewing. The checkin is cake for the beautifier, but the next update/merge is hell for everyone with modified checkouts planning checkins of their own. The only way to mitigate is to announce a code freeze on a certain section of the repository, and ask that everyone clear out their working copies of queued commits. It should also happen at a low point of commit activity. I think our best opportunity would be to beautify *both* vtigercrm/trunk and vtigercrm/branches/4.2 right before the forward-port of 4.2 fixes to the trunk (testing to see that nothing has broken on either, of course). > I'd be willing to take formatting fixes on a per-file basis as long as > the actual patch that does the reformatting doesn't included any > non-formatting changes. Yes, per-file is probably the biggest whitespace cleanup chunk you can expect to be practical on any given commit, unless there is an agreed-upon repository freeze. P.S. It would be wise to do any code beautification only on vtigercrm modules proper, not any contained snapshot of third party code. From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com Mon Mar 13 18:49:39 2006 From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:49:39 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 Message-ID: Jeff / Mike / Allan, Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on this one. Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose ends. I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? Regards, - Joel -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fedyk Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. Mike Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >> >>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >> >> > >The original idea was to keep >vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it >could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >instance on mysql. > >I propose the following: > >- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >assent, IMO. > >- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in >sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity >of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity >on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. > >- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap >into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >Thoughts? > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 18:56:40 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:56:40 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> I'll help. :) One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines for better maintainability. Comments? Joel Rydbeck wrote: >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on >this one. > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose >ends. > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of >Mike Fedyk >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > >I like it. > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > >Mike > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >>> >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>The original idea was to keep >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that >> >> >it > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. >> >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >>instance on mysql. >> >>I propose the following: >> >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >>assent, IMO. >> >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration >> >> >in > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the >> >> >purity > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change >> >> >velocity > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX >> >> >status. > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can >> >> >bootstrap > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. >> >>Thoughts? >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> >> >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 19:00:16 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:00:16 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! In-Reply-To: <44159FD6.7090706@internext.com.mx> References: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> <4415F995.3050906@mikefedyk.com> <4415990B.2030000@internext.com.mx> <441600C2.2000603@mikefedyk.com> <44159FD6.7090706@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <44160790.10608@mikefedyk.com> Great! I'll add this to my list of patches to review. Mike Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > Well, if some body have problem with save sales orders trough qoute > module, i solve it do it: > > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > // New Lines HERE > if(empty($value)) > { > $value = 'null'; > } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 22:26:54 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:26:54 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415FA82.50108@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. The branch vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration is open for committers to integrate their postgresql support code. Please file tickets for as many identifiable postgresql issues as possible, we want to make it possible for the vtigercrm team to track this work on vtigercrm/trunk. I will merge any changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 into this branch, to keep the diff as small as possible and speed the eventual merge back to vtigercrm/branches/4.2. From allan.bush at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 20:31:51 2006 From: allan.bush at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:31:51 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> Yeah breaking the queries up into multiple lines would be a huge help when dealing with diff files and it improves readability (maybe we should come up with a query formatting guide to standardize when to break a line and how much to indent the next line) . I'm really busy today and maybe tomorrow but I can merge in a bunch of changes after that. On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > I'll help. :) > > One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no > more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines > for better maintainability. > > Comments? > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > > > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on > >this one. > > > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of > >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > > > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose > >ends. > > > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with > >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > > > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have > >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > > > >Regards, > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of > >Mike Fedyk > >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM > >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > > > >I like it. > > > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > > > >Mike > > > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > > > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, > >>> > >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>The original idea was to keep > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that > >> > >> > >it > > > > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into > >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >> > >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug > >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to > >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production > >>instance on mysql. > >> > >>I propose the following: > >> > >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start > >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough > >>assent, IMO. > >> > >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration > >> > >> > >in > > > > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to > >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the > >> > >> > >purity > > > > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by > >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change > >> > >> > >velocity > > > > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX > >> > >> > >status. > > > > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can > >> > >> > >bootstrap > > > > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I > >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its > >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into > >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >> > >>Thoughts? > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > >> > >> > >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Tue Mar 14 06:21:12 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:21:12 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi Mike, This is almost the best I can do for Pipeline by lead source with Image Graph : It is because Image Graph has no feature for 3D Pie. On the other hand, I consider that 3D pie is not an accurate graphic because each value is represented by an area and 3D perception is wrong. I had also to develop a color_generator function which generates an array of colours based on an algorithm. It is because theme feature is not supported by Image Graph. It could be a good idea to implement this kind of function in themes, each theme having its own colours. Michel PS: I think I will release a first version of Charts.php soon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/6b57b51c/attachment-0003.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 12516 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/6b57b51c/attachment-0001.jpg From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 14 06:29:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:29:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 5.0 beta lockdown? In-Reply-To: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> References: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> Richie wrote: > Hello! > > We plan to release the Beta by the end of this month. > As I am running short of resources here, I would request some help. > Towards that end, I had a discussion with mmbrich and these are the salient > points that we discussed. Please feel free to pitch in your views. > > a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features That's good. Make sure you keep it up to date and if you make any changes to the lib, submit them upstream. > b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The > Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not > respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. > c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be > merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two > different beasts. This will require a full change in your work flow. Any meetings and communications done in your team will have to be done publicly so that your community deputies will be informed of things as they happen and why they happen. You'll need to make tickets for features, bugs etc. in trac and reference to them on your checkins so that a feature or bug fix that is spread over multiple checkins can be tracked easily. If you have deputies, they should be the only one making changes to their area of control. That means if Joe Bob developer is assigned the helpdesk module, even changes made by the core team should go through the deputy. > Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand > all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. > So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. This is very true. I think the easiest way to get there is to have your first deputies to be from the vtiger core team. Assign the various portions of the 5 source tree between your developers and have them send changes to each other and review each other's work. > > There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. > I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. It's up to you what versions you want to bundle with vtiger. Though using the newest version that works properly is probably the best way to go. So if vtiger 5 works with php5 and mysql5 use those. But if you can bundle php5.1 and vtiger 5 works well with it, then do that. > > To briefly mention our status over here :- > We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we > write, I will > be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that > the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. > As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to > integrate the > required UIs esp that of the Security module. What documentation system are you using? Mike From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 07:23:41 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:23:41 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> I always write queries like this: $query = << wrote: > Yeah breaking the queries up into multiple lines would be a huge help > when dealing with diff files and it improves readability (maybe we > should come up with a query formatting guide to standardize when to > break a line and how much to indent the next line) . > > I'm really busy today and maybe tomorrow but I can merge in a bunch of > changes after that. > > On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > I'll help. :) > > > > One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no > > more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines > > for better maintainability. > > > > Comments? > > > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > > > >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > > > > > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on > > >this one. > > > > > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of > > >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > > > > > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose > > >ends. > > > > > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with > > >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > > > > > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have > > >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > > >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of > > >Mike Fedyk > > >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM > > >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > > >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > > > > > >I like it. > > > > > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > > > > > >Mike > > > > > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, > > >>> > > >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > > >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > > >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>The original idea was to keep > > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that > > >> > > >> > > >it > > > > > > > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into > > >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > > >> > > >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug > > >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to > > >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production > > >>instance on mysql. > > >> > > >>I propose the following: > > >> > > >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from > > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start > > >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough > > >>assent, IMO. > > >> > > >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration > > >> > > >> > > >in > > > > > > > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to > > >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the > > >> > > >> > > >purity > > > > > > > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by > > >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change > > >> > > >> > > >velocity > > > > > > > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX > > >> > > >> > > >status. > > > > > > > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can > > >> > > >> > > >bootstrap > > > > > > > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I > > >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its > > >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into > > >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > > >> > > >>Thoughts? > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ From richie at vtiger.com Tue Mar 14 08:47:54 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:47:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 5.0 beta lockdown? In-Reply-To: <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> References: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <109f9034454.2909176754484923352.5784211372550577327@@vtiger.com> Hi! Thanks for the response. We currently use phpDocs for generating our API documentation. I will take your advice of having individual core members as deputies. We have already done that. Once the Beta is out, we will have a lot of bug-fixes coming in, at that time, it will be better to have some more deputies so that we are able to move faster and in sync. We will make the communication channels more open at that point in time. We intend to bundle php5 with mysql5 as of now. Richie ---- Mike Fedyk<mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote ---- Richie wrote: > Hello! > > We plan to release the Beta by the end of this month. > As I am running short of resources here, I would request some help. > Towards that end, I had a discussion with mmbrich and these are the salient > points that we discussed. Please feel free to pitch in your views. > > a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features That's good. Make sure you keep it up to date and if you make any changes to the lib, submit them upstream. > b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The > Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not > respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. > c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be > merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two > different beasts. This will require a full change in your work flow. Any meetings and communications done in your team will have to be done publicly so that your community deputies will be informed of things as they happen and why they happen. You'll need to make tickets for features, bugs etc. in trac and reference to them on your checkins so that a feature or bug fix that is spread over multiple checkins can be tracked easily. If you have deputies, they should be the only one making changes to their area of control. That means if Joe Bob developer is assigned the helpdesk module, even changes made by the core team should go through the deputy. > Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand > all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. > So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. This is very true. I think the easiest way to get there is to have your first deputies to be from the vtiger core team. Assign the various portions of the 5 source tree between your developers and have them send changes to each other and review each other's work. > > There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. > I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. It's up to you what versions you want to bundle with vtiger. Though using the newest version that works properly is probably the best way to go. So if vtiger 5 works with php5 and mysql5 use those. But if you can bundle php5.1 and vtiger 5 works well with it, then do that. > > To briefly mention our status over here :- > We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we > write, I will > be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that > the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. > As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to > integrate the > required UIs esp that of the Security module. What documentation system are you using? Mike _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/418b9aa9/attachment-0003.html From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 14 09:24:55 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:24:55 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > I always write queries like this: > > $query = << select > * > from > table1, > table2, > where > foo = ? > and > zeta = ? > group by > tita > order by > zeta > END; I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest and most diff-friendly, by far. I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that to the style standard? $query = << Message-ID: <015601c64781$253e7000$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> I would like to suggest one small change to the proposed change. I implemented the change Luis mentions verbatim several weeks ago, but it would insert the literal 'null' into ALL blank fields. I would recommend the following instead which adds a small check to see if the field is likely a foreign key. This is the code I submitted in the patch for quotes (tic 51). It appears Sales Orders has the same basic problem, so the fix should work here as well. > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; >> $match = stristr($fieldname,'id'); // adding this to try and set only foreign keys. we dont want ALL blank values set to null >> if(empty($value) && $match != '0') >> { >> $value = 'null'; >> } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } Andy Rodes arodes at onweald.com -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fedyk Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:00 PM To: Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! Great! I'll add this to my list of patches to review. Mike Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > Well, if some body have problem with save sales orders trough qoute > module, i solve it do it: > > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > // New Lines HERE > if(empty($value)) > { > $value = 'null'; > } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 11:53:36 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:53:36 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> I usually write queries in a slightly more compact format: $query = "SELECT FROM INNER JOIN ON WHERE AND GROUP BY ORDER BY "; The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > I always write queries like this: > > > > $query = << > select > > * > > from > > table1, > > table2, > > where > > foo = ? > > and > > zeta = ? > > group by > > tita > > order by > > zeta > > END; > > I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest > and most diff-friendly, by far. > > I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that > to the style standard? > > $query = << SELECT > * > FROM > table1, > table2, > WHERE > foo = ? > AND > zeta = ? > GROUP BY > tita > ORDER BY > zeta > END; > > +1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. > > Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and > each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin > message > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/563fe117/attachment-0001.html From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com Tue Mar 14 12:46:52 2006 From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:46:52 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Build process References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com><3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com><49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <000101c64788$dfd2b410$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: What would you guys think of putting a build process in place. Nightly would be a bit frequent, but perhaps weekly or monthly. It would open the window for any testers out there to start writing automated tests for the app and put some rigor around our quality. I think in the long term it could help make Mike F's work easier and keep us moving forward more cohesively. If we had a monthly check-in, where all branches were brought together, release or no-release, it would allow for some of this code beautifying we're talking about as well as testing and keeping everything current so that we don't get stagnant branches. Thoughts? - Joel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3966 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/59b8ba27/attachment-0003.bin From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 14 13:59:26 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:59:26 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Build process In-Reply-To: References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com><3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com><49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <000101c64788$dfd2b410$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4417128E.4060307@mikefedyk.com> I like the idea of having a weekly zip/tar.(gz|bz2) but I don't really see the point of a monthly merge since I'm planning on having monthly releases. And I don't see merges becoming automated with SVN, it just doesn't handle that problem space. Mike Joel Rydbeck wrote: >What would you guys think of putting a build process in place. Nightly would be a bit frequent, but perhaps weekly or monthly. It would open the window for any testers out there to start writing automated tests for the app and put some rigor around our quality. I think in the long term it could help make Mike F's work easier and keep us moving forward more cohesively. > >If we had a monthly check-in, where all branches were brought together, release or no-release, it would allow for some of this code beautifying we're talking about as well as testing and keeping everything current so that we don't get stagnant branches. > >Thoughts? > >- Joel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 14 14:09:55 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:09:55 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/3775 This changeset shows the format I typically use. It puts major keywords at the beginning of the line and only uses indenting where it is needed -- typically when the parts related to the keyword are long. $query = "SELECT > FROM > INNER JOIN > ON > WHERE > AND > GROUP BY > ORDER BY "; > >The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely >a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in >one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't >wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. > >On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > >>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >>>I always write queries like this: >>> >>>$query = <<>> select >>> * >>> from >>> table1, >>> table2, >>> where >>> foo = ? >>> and >>> zeta = ? >>> group by >>> tita >>> order by >>> zeta >>>END; >>> >>> >>I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest >>and most diff-friendly, by far. >> >>I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that >>to the style standard? >> >> $query = <<> SELECT >> * >> FROM >> table1, >> table2, >> WHERE >> foo = ? >> AND >> zeta = ? >> GROUP BY >> tita >> ORDER BY >> zeta >> END; >> >>+1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. >> >>Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and >>each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin >>message >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From nolan at peaceworks.ca Tue Mar 14 18:57:43 2006 From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:57:43 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <44175877.70505@peaceworks.ca> My $.02... - YES YES YES to standardizing SQL queries! - capitalized keywords good! This alone makes a big difference! Yes to making this a part of the standard! - I generally do what Allan does, except I put SELECT FROM WHERE GROUP HAVING ORDER all at the same indentation - Indents identical to Allan's for INNER JOIN, ANDs/ORs for logical clauses - ...but so long as it's clear, I'm happy ...so the code beautifier doesn't do SQL? Mike Fedyk wrote: > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/3775 > > This changeset shows the format I typically use. It puts major keywords > at the beginning of the line and only uses indenting where it is needed > -- typically when the parts related to the keyword are long. > > $query = "SELECT >> FROM >> INNER JOIN >> ON >> WHERE >> AND >> GROUP BY >> ORDER BY "; >> >>The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely >>a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in >>one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't >>wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. >> >>On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >> >> >> >>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I always write queries like this: >>>> >>>>$query = <<>>> select >>>> * >>>> from >>>> table1, >>>> table2, >>>> where >>>> foo = ? >>>> and >>>> zeta = ? >>>> group by >>>> tita >>>> order by >>>> zeta >>>>END; >>>> >>>> >>> >>>I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest >>>and most diff-friendly, by far. >>> >>>I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that >>>to the style standard? >>> >>>$query = <<>> SELECT >>> * >>> FROM >>> table1, >>> table2, >>> WHERE >>> foo = ? >>> AND >>> zeta = ? >>> GROUP BY >>> tita >>> ORDER BY >>> zeta >>>END; >>> >>>+1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. >>> >>>Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and >>>each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin >>>message >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Wed Mar 15 11:32:28 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:32:28 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 2006 SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards Nominations Message-ID: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> Vote, vote, vote !!! http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards5.php http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php http://sourceforge.net/awards/cca/ Aissa From larenas at internext.com.mx Wed Mar 15 06:16:31 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:16:31 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] A toda la comunidad Latina que participe en esta lista. Message-ID: <4417F78F.6090103@internext.com.mx> Hola: Los invito a ponerse en conctacto con migo para que discutamos problemas sobre el Vtiger en nuestro idioma. Gracias. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 15 15:44:10 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:44:10 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 2006 SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards Nominations In-Reply-To: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> References: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> Message-ID: <44187C9A.3070707@mikefedyk.com> Abos wrote: >Vote, vote, vote !!! >http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards5.php >http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php >http://sourceforge.net/awards/cca/ > > Voted. Alright Compiere, Java OSS Roc kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 5562 (jre50). OK, that's enough of that. ;) Go vTigerCRM! Or as jeff puts it: go vtigercrm ;) Mike From libregeek at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 03:22:08 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:52:08 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Documents for Vtiger Message-ID: <2315046d0603170022t50d012afp@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, Is there any developer documents for vtiger? I visited http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Vtiger_CRM_-_Developer_Guide , but seems that the document is empty. I wish to develop a module/extension for HR Mangement in vtigercrm. Kindly provide the documents or any resource regarding the above. regards Manilal From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Fri Mar 17 07:13:15 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:13:15 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Image Graph Message-ID: Hi all, Here joined a dashboard generated with image graph. Some details are to be tuned (dynamic ticks interval, bar width, .). I will post the source for Charts.php with some explanation before tonight (French time). Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060317/12a34f42/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DashboardImageGraph.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 251891 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060317/12a34f42/attachment-0001.jpg From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Fri Mar 17 11:29:42 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:29:42 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Image Graph Message-ID: As announced the files needed to test Vtigercrm-4.2.4.rc2 - Image_Graph implementation. Installation : 1. Install Pear package if it is not already done 2. Install Image_Graph package with all its dependencies : Pear install -a Image_Graph-0.7.2 3. Override Charts.php in your vtigercrm/potentials folder (be sure to have a backup copy) 4. Apply the patches on Dashboard module files to suppress the test on php version. Things to do : 1. Compute the ticks interval according to the maximum axis value. 2. Try to dispose ticks on category axis as they where with jpgraph (if really needed). 3. Implement and beautify the colour generator algorithm (very basic actually). 4. Make it dependent on current theme (if everybody agree). 5. Test font-language implementation (I do not try it for Chinese or Czech). Comments : 1. In Charts.php I have only commented the replaced line. I know it is not "beautiful" (ref. Allan hobby) but it is for others to understand the changes. The lines will have to be suppressed in the official version. 2. If somebody looks at Image Graph examples, he will probably notice that graph layout uses the following syntax : $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title = Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',11)), Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea = Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'), $footer = Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)), 90 ), 5 ) or $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',11)), Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea =& Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'), $footer =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)), 90 ), 5 ) It works nice in a test program called directly but it doesn't in Charts.php. I have not found the explanation. The correct one is : $title =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',10)); $plotarea =& Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'); $footer =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)); $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title, Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea, $footer, 90 ), 5 ) 3. 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Mike From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sun Mar 19 06:40:09 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:40:09 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Message-ID: The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!). See ticket : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Richie ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved :   3         When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!).   See ticket :   http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65   Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060319/cb10d36c/attachment-0003.html From richie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 02:17:33 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:17:33 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10a16840ad7.3864398727635444731.2037062845435905282@@vtiger.com> PHP5 has a very different array handling behaviour. It passes arrays by reference. So, there will be major impacts in the code. Please do refer to my posts about cloning in the vtiger forums. I would like to have the mysql5 integration properly done before integrating PHP5 into the current vtiger crm5 builds.Once we do have PHP5 integrated, we will start fixing all these issues. ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved :   3         When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!).   See ticket :   http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65   Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060319/4d0049e5/attachment-0001.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 05:29:02 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:29:02 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a16820983.1412508798428817900.-5004035387256997844%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: Hi Richie, Thanks to appreciate what I have done. There is no problem for me to work on version 5, I have already installed twice Alpha 2, one is running on classic install (PHP 4 + MySQL 4), the other one for debugging purpose with PHP 5 and MySQL 5.1. I have fixed installation process but have still a problem to solve with login. I am working on a larger project on CRM which requires integration of a Sync module (with ERP) and a Workflow module, but I think I can also work on charts. I am rather new on PHP (I am more fluent with Delphi and MsSQL) so I use this dev to learn more. Let me know how I can participate, do you have defined the outputs? Regards Michel _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:15 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Hi Michel! We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. I like what you have done. I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing to work on it please? You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working with ImageMaps. Thanks, Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/7181643d/attachment-0003.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 05:33:03 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:33:03 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a16840ad7.3864398727635444731.2037062845435905282%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: I know that and version 4.2.4rc2 is running with zend compatibility mode of PHP4. The problem I discuss here is linked to ADODB qstr function called by PearDatabase : function quote($string){ return ADOConnection::qstr($string); } Qstr function has several calls to $this->function, the use of $this is not allowed outside object context, so you get an error when you call : PearDatabase::quote($string); I changed it to $adb->quote($string); And it seems to work on all the functions I have tested, but I am not sure it is a good practice. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:18 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility PHP5 has a very different array handling behaviour. It passes arrays by reference. So, there will be major impacts in the code. Please do refer to my posts about cloning in the vtiger forums. I would like to have the mysql5 integration properly done before integrating PHP5 into the current vtiger crm5 builds.Once we do have PHP5 integrated, we will start fixing all these issues. ---- Michel JACQUEMES wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!). See ticket : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/4ca43431/attachment-0001.html From werk at r2g.nl Mon Mar 20 08:08:36 2006 From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:08:36 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database Message-ID: Hi All, As newbe user of vtigercrm and starting programmer, I have been reading the forums and mailingslist archive. As vtigercrm grows, we all would like to see an easier structure to maintain, for example of the db. I have implemented vtigercrm on my isp with ssl for my own business ( I run a smal firm for system administrator ) and have done also on a Novell SBS for several of my clients. Looking at the tablestructure of vtigercrm we have 192 tables total! I wonder if prefix tables could be meaningfull, thinking of several possibilities: - If someone wants or must use only one database with several applications, say joomla cms and vtigercrm at an isp. - more seperation of db: on a 'per module' bases - another seperation of db: add-on/plugins with there own prefix - better version control of db, different prefix per version. >From above I suggest: .vti_ as default .vti_a_ for addon .vti_p_ for plugin .vti_{modulename}_ for module or with version control: .vti_424_ .vti_424_a .vti_424_p .vti_424_{modulename}_ It would also eas the use of future migration scripts as migration could be done in several layers. Best Regards, Remco Gerbrands From saint at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 09:29:02 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:59:02 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion Message-ID: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Folks.. Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all your inputs. For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) thanks, Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/bb8a6474/attachment-0003.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 20 10:06:45 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:06:45 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > Author: allanbush > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > New Revision: 4323 > > Log: > Added dummy sequence requests. > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > References ticket:17. > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > else > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, but if > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of tables that need it in the source? From sergiokessler at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 10:14:09 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:14:09 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> References: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> richie, do you (or anyone) have a url for this imageMaps code ? (my google search failed) On 3/20/06, Richie wrote: > Hi Michel! > > We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. > I like what you have done. > > I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing > to work on it please? > > You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working > with ImageMaps. > > Thanks, > Richie > > > > > ---- Michel JACQUEMES wrote ---- > > > > > The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : > > > > 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : > Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in > c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on > line 2380 > I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time > to investigate (help is welcome!). > > > > See ticket : > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 > > > > Michel > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From richie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 10:17:48 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:17:48 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10a183bba27.5706286486276782748.1632333412769303144@@vtiger.com> Hello Michel! Thanks for the response. I would very much like to see the changes that you have done on Alpha2 with the ImageGraphs. I would like you to handle the Dashboards part for vtiger CRM 5. I can give you checkin access to that module and you can make the changes and update the svn repository. We will test from here and get back to you with the results. That way, we can spot any issues early. Let me know if that is okay. ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- Hi Richie,   Thanks to appreciate what I have done.   There is no problem for me to work on version 5, I have already installed twice Alpha 2, one is running on classic install (PHP 4 + MySQL 4), the other one for debugging purpose with PHP 5 and MySQL 5.1. I have fixed installation process but have still a problem to solve with login.   I am working on a larger project on CRM which requires integration of a Sync module (with ERP) and a Workflow module, but I think I can also work on charts. I am rather new on PHP (I am more fluent with Delphi and MsSQL) so I use this dev to learn more.   Let me know how I can participate, do you have defined the outputs?   Regards   Michel   De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:15 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility   Hi Michel! We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. I like what you have done. I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing to work on it please? You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working with ImageMaps. Thanks, Richie _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/419598c5/attachment-0001.html From richie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 10:25:26 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:25:26 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> References: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867@@vtiger.com> My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. Richie ---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ---- richie, do you (or anyone) have a url for this imageMaps code ? (my google search failed) On 3/20/06, Richie <richie at vtiger.com> wrote: > Hi Michel! > > We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. > I like what you have done. > > I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing > to work on it please? > > You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working > with ImageMaps. > > Thanks, > Richie > > > > > ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- > > > > > The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : > > > > 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : > Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in > c:\Inetpub\http://wwwrootvtigercrm-graphadodbadodb.inc.php on > line 2380 > I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time > to investigate (help is welcome!). > > > > See ticket : > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 > > > > Michel > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/df20d2b4/attachment-0003.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 12:43:19 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:43:19 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a183bba27.5706286486276782748.1632333412769303144%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: Hello Richie, I have not worked on Alpha2-Image_Graph but I am going to have a look. I was trying to test Alpha2 with MySql 5 but I have some problems with it. I forgot to mention that Image_Graph is actually a Beta version but it works fine. For the Dashboard, it is Ok for me. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:18 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Hello Michel! Thanks for the response. I would very much like to see the changes that you have done on Alpha2 with the ImageGraphs. I would like you to handle the Dashboards part for vtiger CRM 5. I can give you checkin access to that module and you can make the changes and update the svn repository. We will test from here and get back to you with the results. That way, we can spot any issues early. Let me know if that is okay. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/a5f844de/attachment-0001.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 12:37:06 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:37:06 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: You can find it here : http://pear.php.net/packages.php?catpid=12 &catname=Images Package Image_Canvas is required. You can also find very useful informations at : http://pear.veggerby.dk/ If you want to download it, you have first to install Pear. Follow the doc, it is easy. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:25 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/da38b93f/attachment-0003.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 13:09:18 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:09:18 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, I don't understand the purpose of this. As far as it is installation, it is batch. So if there is a failure, simply drop the schema, create it and run again. Use of transaction during this step is not very important. If it is an upgrade, ask people to backup their base or do it by program. On the other hand, if the target is to implement Mysql 5 or Postgres, they support transactions. In that case I think something like : $db->StartTrans(); ... INSERT INTO $masterTable (id, field1,..) VALUES (DEFAULT,$val1,...) $masterID = $db->Insert_ID(); ... INSERT INTO $dependingTable (...,master_id,..) VALUES (...,$masterID,...) $ok = $db->CompleteTrans(); Is better Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk > Envoy??: lundi 20 mars 2006 16:07 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com; vtigercrm- > commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] > r4323 - > /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.p > hp > > vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > > Author: allanbush > > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > New Revision: 4323 > > > > Log: > > Added dummy sequence requests. > > > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it > during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after > the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in > the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > > > References ticket:17. > > > > Modified: > > > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p > > > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p > > > ========================================================================== > ==== > > --- > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p (original) > > +++ > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > > else > > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, > but if > > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); > Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of > tables that need it in the source? > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 13:51:39 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:51:39 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> References: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603201051l348995cdvf480911f46fb441a@mail.gmail.com> Not that I can see, any string could be used for the sequence it's totally up to the program code. I got this list by grepping trough the source and someone could create another simply by adding the line $id = $adb->getUniqueID("foo"); anywhere which would be pretty hard to detect. I'm open to ideas if someone else has any suggestions. On 3/20/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > > Author: allanbush > > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > New Revision: 4323 > > > > Log: > > Added dummy sequence requests. > > > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > > > References ticket:17. > > > > Modified: > > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > ============================================================================== > > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php (original) > > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > > else > > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, but if > > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); > Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of > tables that need it in the source? > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 15:03:29 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:03:29 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed Message-ID: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. If you want to help you'll need to check the postgres branch code out of SVN: svn co http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration then run through the installation process exactly like you would for a mysql installation. If you have both mysql and pgsql support in your php module then you'll have to select which you wish to use, if not it should be done for you automatically. Make sure to select the correct port for you database host it's probably localhost:5432 for most setups. In the default setup I've tweaked adodb to output to the browser any database errors encountered along with a backtrace of how the query was called. Because of this you'll notice a bunch of output about missing sequences during the table population process of the installation, these errors can be safely ignored as adodb automatically corrects them. What is needed is for testers to play around with this and find more database errors. If you encounter a problem the adodb debugging routine should output an error message to your browser page. Simply copy the error message (including the query and the backtrace) and file a bug added a short description of what you were trying to do at the time. I'm not sure what the best way to track these bugs is, ideally each one would be filed as a ticket in trac which blocks ticket #17, but I don't think trac supports meta bugs. Unfortunately I'm leaving town today and will be unavailable until Saturday but if people can help collect bug reports I'll get them fixed next weekend or some other developer may be able to fix some of them during the week. Thanks for all your help, Allan From justoff at hotmail.ru Tue Mar 21 04:33:27 2006 From: justoff at hotmail.ru (=?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz8jB?=) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:33:27 +0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-ready AlphabeticalSearch(); Message-ID: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> Hi all! Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. Improvements: 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) encoding. Or to use multiletter links. P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and criticism:) are welcome. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: include_utils.php.diff Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1097 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/0a4915b4/attachment-0002.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from > all your inputs. > > For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page > (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and > contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what > you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts > about home page too. :-) > > > thanks, > Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/a469be1d/attachment-0001.html From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 07:08:53 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:08:53 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com> how will this be integrated in the final release ? because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to execute command line commands to install stuff... I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible (because of restrictions on server) I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to put pear files there (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to take this files) btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! does image_graph output to SVG ? On 3/20/06, Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > > > > You can find it here : > > > > http://pear.php.net/packages.php?catpid=12&catname=Images > > > > Package Image_Canvas is required. > > > > You can also find very useful informations at : > > > > http://pear.veggerby.dk/ > > > > If you want to download it, you have first to install Pear. Follow the doc, > it is easy. > > > > > ________________________________ > > > De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] > De la part de Richie > > Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:25 > ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > > Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility > > > > > > > > My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working > with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the > posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the > forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. > > Richie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 07:14:18 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:14:18 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion In-Reply-To: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> References: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603210414h31cbdbt44c726b069250bcb@mail.gmail.com> saint, I can tell you what I *don't* want to see, but you already know that... ;-) /sak On 3/20/06, Saint wrote: > Folks.. > > Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home > page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all > your inputs. > > For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like > Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be > shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and > more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) > > > thanks, > Saint > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 09:43:25 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:43:25 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services Message-ID: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it only returns true or false... Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? for example... method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', 1); without any kind of authentication ... IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password each time one method is call. Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/62e30301/attachment-0003.html From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 13:35:03 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:35:03 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How To: merge changesets between branches Message-ID: I just merged our first change on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. Merging changes between branches: a) keeps the diff down for when you're ready to merge a branch back the other way (retiring the branch). b) is better than manually modifying your working copy to imitate a changeset and committing. It seems that this is the first use of the svn merge command in our fledgling repository, so I'll document how to do working-copy merges here for the benefit of others. We have a lot of merging to do between vtigercrm/branches/4.2 and vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1! (server side merges (between two rev-ranged URLS) are the ultimate for changeset-preserving history, but we can ease into that at some future date) The end result of the following steps is a tidy changeset with links to various items in trac: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4381 Step 1: Find the changeset you want to merge, on the trunk/branch it occurs: svn diff -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php =================================================================== --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4357) +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4358) @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ { $has_header = 1; } -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ { $datarows = $xrows; } -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; else $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; else $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; - -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; else $START = $_SESSION['startval']; -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; else $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; Step 2: merge the changeset (revision range + URL) to your working copy: $ svn merge -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 U modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Step 3: diff your working copy with merged changes to the repository URL $ svn diff modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php =================================================================== --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4380) +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (working copy) @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ { $has_header = 1; } -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ { $datarows = $xrows; } -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; else $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; else $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; - -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; else $START = $_SESSION['startval']; -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; else $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; Step 4: commit your working copy with merged changes, including a commit message that references/closes any applicable trac tickets. $ svn commit -m 'refs #62 and #17. merging changeset r4358 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration' modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Sending modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Transmitting file data . Committed revision 4381. From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 13:48:24 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:48:24 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Allan Bush wrote: > Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the > installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, > now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger. I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in postgresql). From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 21 15:30:09 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:30:09 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed In-Reply-To: References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com> Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > Allan Bush wrote: > >> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the >> installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, >> now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. >> > > Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an > install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't > noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful > contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger. > > I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in > postgresql). Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance. Mike From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Wed Mar 22 00:06:29 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:06:29 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have not checked Pear template dependencies. What do you mean by SVG? > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler > Envoy??: mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility > > how will this be integrated in the final release ? > > because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to > execute command line commands to install stuff... > I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will > find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible > (because of restrictions on server) > > I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to > put pear files there > (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to > take this files) > > btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! > does image_graph output to SVG ? > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 02:41:02 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:41:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How To: merge changesets between branches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4420FF8E.9040606@mikefedyk.com> Hi Jeff, Is is possible that you could be the branch merge maintainer? I've read through the first half of the svn book, but you have experience here that is quite valuable and will be an example for everyone to learn from also. Most any request that eases merging 4.2 <-> 5.0 will be followed (like possibly splitting utils.php in 4.2.x like I have heard it is in 5.0) as long as a consensus is reached. What do you say? Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > I just merged our first change on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. Merging changes between > branches: > > a) keeps the diff down for when you're ready to merge a branch back the > other way (retiring the branch). > > b) is better than manually modifying your working copy to imitate a > changeset and committing. > > It seems that this is the first use of the svn merge command in our > fledgling repository, so I'll document how to do working-copy merges here > for the benefit of others. We have a lot of merging to do between > vtigercrm/branches/4.2 and vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1! > > (server side merges (between two rev-ranged URLS) are the ultimate for > changeset-preserving history, but we can ease into that at some future > date) > > The end result of the following steps is a tidy changeset with links to > various items in trac: > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4381 > > > Step 1: Find the changeset you want to merge, on the trunk/branch it occurs: > > svn diff -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 > Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > =================================================================== > --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4357) > +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4358) > @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ > { > $has_header = 1; > } > -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; > > if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') > @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ > { > $datarows = $xrows; > } > -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; > else > $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; > > -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; > else > $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); > > -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; > - > -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; > else > $START = $_SESSION['startval']; > -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; > else > $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; > > > Step 2: merge the changeset (revision range + URL) to your working copy: > > $ svn merge -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 > U modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > > > Step 3: diff your working copy with merged changes to the repository URL > > $ svn diff modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > =================================================================== > --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4380) > +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (working copy) > @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ > { > $has_header = 1; > } > -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; > > if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') > @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ > { > $datarows = $xrows; > } > -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; > else > $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; > > -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; > else > $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); > > -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; > - > -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; > else > $START = $_SESSION['startval']; > -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; > else > $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; > > > Step 4: commit your working copy with merged changes, including a commit > message that references/closes any applicable trac tickets. > > $ svn commit -m 'refs #62 and #17. merging changeset r4358 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration' modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Sending modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Transmitting file data . > Committed revision 4381. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 02:53:20 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:53:20 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44210270.2010004@mikefedyk.com> We'll keep it in the source and keep it up to date just like all of our other php based dependencies. A script that removes the external dependencies and replaces them at packaging time (debian, gentoo, Lin/Win bin, etc.) would be a great help. And any patches that clean up referencing the location of external dependencies will be accepted. Anyone interested in writing that script? Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some > work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend > package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have > not checked Pear template dependencies. > > What do you mean by SVG? > > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler >> Envoy? : mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09 >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility >> >> how will this be integrated in the final release ? >> >> because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to >> execute command line commands to install stuff... >> I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will >> find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible >> (because of restrictions on server) >> >> I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to >> put pear files there >> (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to >> take this files) >> >> btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! >> does image_graph output to SVG ? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 03:01:30 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:01:30 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4421045A.50107@mikefedyk.com> A lot of those tables store many-many relationships between various modules. Which module owns a table when it references to more than one module? I've thought about this before but that really killed the idea for me. If a solution or policy can be made that solves it, then it looks much more interesting. Also I absolutely do not like storing version numbers in table or db names. The migration from 4.2.[0123] should be able to be done by testing for some unique structure that is not in that version and changing it to the current version. Also adodb's data dictionary functions may be able to do this for us. I just want to make sure it does it in a lossless fashion. Mike Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote: > Hi All, > > As newbe user of vtigercrm and starting programmer, I have been reading the > forums and mailingslist archive. As vtigercrm grows, we all would like to > see an easier structure to maintain, for example of the db. > I have implemented vtigercrm on my isp with ssl for my own business ( I run > a smal firm for system administrator ) and have done also on a Novell SBS > for several of my clients. > > Looking at the tablestructure of vtigercrm we have 192 tables total! > I wonder if prefix tables could be meaningfull, thinking of several > possibilities: > - If someone wants or must use only one database with several applications, > say joomla cms and vtigercrm at an isp. > - more seperation of db: on a 'per module' bases > - another seperation of db: add-on/plugins with there own prefix > - better version control of db, different prefix per version. > > >From above I suggest: > .vti_ as default > .vti_a_ for addon > .vti_p_ for plugin > .vti_{modulename}_ for module > > or with version control: > .vti_424_ > .vti_424_a > .vti_424_p > .vti_424_{modulename}_ > > > It would also eas the use of future migration scripts as migration could be > done in several layers. > > Best Regards, > > Remco Gerbrands > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 03:07:24 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:07:24 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-ready AlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> References: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> Message-ID: <442105BC.7080507@mikefedyk.com> Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce the output it would be even better. I'll take it either way though. Mike ?????? wrote: > Hi all! > > Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. > > Improvements: > 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php file and > can be easily localized or even freely modified. > 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or multicharacter) > values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) encoding. Or to use multiletter links. > > P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and > criticism:) are welcome. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 03:11:52 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:11:52 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). Joao Oliveira wrote: > Hello all, > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > only returns true or false... > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > for example... > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > each time one method is call. > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From justoff at hotmail.ru Wed Mar 22 06:44:00 2006 From: justoff at hotmail.ru (Anthony V. Scray) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:44:00 +0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-readyAlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <442105BC.7080507@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> > Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? Yes. Here is "unified" version. ("context" value for diff -u is 3) Previous version I made with wiki guide http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/HowToGeneratePatchWithWinMerge. > The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce > the output it would be even better. Currently I'am not familiar with template engine :( Maybe later.. >I'll take it either way though. Thanks. > > Mike > > ?????? wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. > > > > Improvements: > > 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php > > file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. > > 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or > > multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) > encoding. Or to use multiletter links. > > > > P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and > > criticism:) are welcome. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. 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I thought that it was possible to define there some custom server global variables, but it isn't. Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/22/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done > quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so > upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). > > Joao Oliveira wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > > only returns true or false... > > > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > > > for example... > > > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > > each time one method is call. > > > > Best Regards > > Jo?o Oliveira. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/74601a37/attachment-0001.html From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Wed Mar 22 08:01:09 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:01:09 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion In-Reply-To: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <00ac01c64db0$b1537f60$2201a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hello Saint, I would suggest adding sample standard roles, of which the common function of each role will have preset views (customizable per user). Key lesson is to provide only what information is needed and nothing more. Everything should fit in an 800 x 600 screen without scrolling vertically or horizontally. Here are my suggestions: Salesforce Staffing Sales Manager Homepage Front page will provide a summary of the team he manages, with individual drill-down capabilities to product/Sales Executive. Summary would include new leads/tasks/contacts obtained today, pending leads/tasks/contacts obtained by his team. "Message to the team" function with edit/display on all members homepage in his team. "Progress vs Target" statistics and/or charts for the month/quarter/year Sales Executive Homepage Front page will provide a summary of his new leads, pending leads, follow up cases and (if possible) reminders to contact clients who have not been contacted for x number of days/weeks/months based on eg. Last sale/quote date (workflow related) IF ENABLED, sales executive will be able to compare his performance with the others in the team he is in "Message to the team" function for "online" Sales Manager updates Management General Manager Homepage Front page will provide a summary of the entire company, with individual drill-down capabilities to product/sales team manager/Sales Executive. Statistics for total leads/task/contacts for individual teams and as an entire company, with charts to show daily/weekly/monthly/quarterly performance on the various factors. Summary of all aging/hottest products/etc and other custom analytics that are relevant to management and strategic planning. This is what I can think up of so far, will ask my team for feedback on the v5.0 UI and pass it along. _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Saint Sent: 20 March 2006 21:29 To: LANCER : Developers List Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion Folks.. Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all your inputs. For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) thanks, Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and then there was talk about svn. I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a repository somewhere? Thanks for the help, JLee -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 230 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/3dc9b8ac/attachment-0001.vcf From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Wed Mar 22 15:33:45 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:33:45 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Vote vote vote !!! Message-ID: <4421B4A9.1050008@vtigercrmfrance.org> vtiger is in final phase* Financial Projects* : http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php Make noise ! Vote vote vote!!!! From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 16:20:03 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:20:03 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. Josh Lee wrote: > Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. > > I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by one > of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is going over > the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import and export > will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export what he/she > would not normally have read access to. > > Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the one > on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and > then there was talk about svn. > > I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still > using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one > that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files > included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a > repository somewhere? > Thanks for the help, > JLee > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From jlee at zertis.net Wed Mar 22 16:39:24 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:39:24 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account there? Mike Fedyk wrote: >Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. > >Josh Lee wrote: > > >>Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >> >>I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by one >>of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is going over >>the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import and export >>will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export what he/she >>would not normally have read access to. >> >>Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the one >>on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and >>then there was talk about svn. >> >>I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a >>repository somewhere? >>Thanks for the help, >>JLee >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 219 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/4ab240b1/attachment-0001.vcf From jlee at zertis.net Wed Mar 22 17:01:19 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:01:19 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421C92F.7040405@zertis.net> Ok, so where is the new svn Repository at, and how do I access it? Josh Lee wrote: > Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't > work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account > there? > > > Mike Fedyk wrote: > >> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. >> >> Josh Lee wrote: >> >> >>> Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >>> >>> I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by >>> one of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is >>> going over the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import >>> and export will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export >>> what he/she would not normally have read access to. >>> >>> Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the >>> one on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, >>> and then there was talk about svn. >>> >>> I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>> using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>> that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>> included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of >>> a repository somewhere? >>> Thanks for the help, >>> JLee >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >>> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >>> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> > > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 219 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/ef17917d/attachment-0001.vcf From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 17:07:31 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:07:31 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421C92F.7040405@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> <4421C92F.7040405@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421CAA3.2010405@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage There is a link from the home page also.. Josh Lee wrote: > Ok, so where is the new svn Repository at, and how do I access it? > > > Josh Lee wrote: > >> Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't >> work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account >> there? >> >> >> Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >>> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. >>> >>> Josh Lee wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >>>> >>>> I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by >>>> one of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is >>>> going over the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import >>>> and export will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export >>>> what he/she would not normally have read access to. >>>> >>>> Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the >>>> one on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, >>>> and then there was talk about svn. >>>> >>>> I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>>> using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>>> that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>>> included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of >>>> a repository somewhere? >>>> Thanks for the help, >>>> JLee >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >>>> scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your >>>> hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho >>>> Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >>> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >>> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From vtiger at leev.net Wed Mar 22 18:03:56 2006 From: vtiger at leev.net (Lee Valentine) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:03:56 +1000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> Hi, To implement authentication into SOAP services, the servers can be placed in a director such as soap/ and place htaccess authentication in the directory. The soap client provides a function to authenticate: $client = new soapclient( 'http://server.com/crm/soap/server.php', ... ); $client->setCredentials('username', 'password'); .htaccess: AuthName "SOAP" AuthType Basic AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd Require valid-user Another method to use would be to place the code below at the top of the soap server and place the username/password in variables in the config. This method has prerequisites: "The $PHP_AUTH_USER, $PHP_AUTH_PW and $PHP_AUTH_TYPE global variables are only available when PHP is installed as a module. If you're using the CGI version of PHP, you will be limited to Web server-based authentication or other custom types of authentication (such as using HTML forms) to match passwords in a database." config: $soap_username = 'username'; $soap_password = 'password'; soap/server.php: if ( ( !isset( $PHP_AUTH_USER )) || (!isset($PHP_AUTH_PW)) || ( $PHP_AUTH_USER != $soap_username ) || ( $PHP_AUTH_PW != $soap_password ) ) { header( 'WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm="SOAP"' ); header( 'HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized' ); echo 'Authorization Required.'; exit; } I have implemented the first method and it works fine. Thanks, Lee On Mar 22 12:06, Joao Oliveira wrote: > Hello Mike. > > Thanks for the ansewer. > > I'm doing some search to evaluate how hard is to implement a session > mechanism in SOAP services in PHP. > > I'll post my results. > > In mean time, if someone has suggestions, please do post them. > > And about my sugestion regarding $_SERVER[], forget it. I thought that it > was possible to define there some custom server global variables, but it > isn't. > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira > > On 3/22/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > > How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done > > quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so > > upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). > > > > Joao Oliveira wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > > > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > > > only returns true or false... > > > > > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > > > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > > > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > > > > > for example... > > > > > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > > > > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > > > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > > > > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > > > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > > > each time one method is call. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Jo?o Oliveira. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 21:31:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:31:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> Message-ID: <4422087F.3050801@mikefedyk.com> Lee Valentine wrote: > Hi, > > To implement authentication into SOAP services, the servers can be placed in a director such as soap/ and place > htaccess authentication in the directory. The soap client provides a function to authenticate: > > $client = new soapclient( 'http://server.com/crm/soap/server.php', ... ); > $client->setCredentials('username', 'password'); > > .htaccess: > AuthName "SOAP" > AuthType Basic > AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd > Require valid-user > > Another method to use would be to place the code below at the top of the soap server and place the > username/password in variables in the config. This method has prerequisites: > > "The $PHP_AUTH_USER, $PHP_AUTH_PW and $PHP_AUTH_TYPE global variables are only available when PHP is installed as a > module. If you're using the CGI version of PHP, you will be limited to Web server-based authentication or other custom > types of authentication (such as using HTML forms) to match passwords in a database." I really don't want vtiger to authenticate against the web server, or a htpasswd file. We should authenticate SOAP against the vtiger users stored in the vtiger database, though this may be an interim solution. Can you ready a patch that takes care of the first option? It's better than what we have now.. Also I don't want to do anything that causes vtiger to depend on mod_php. I will have my test server running php over fastcgi via suexec soon in my development environment as this seems to be the only sane way to securely run a php web server. Mike From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 22:23:38 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:23:38 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-readyAlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> References: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> Message-ID: <442214BA.7080905@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4397 Next time, please create a new ticket and attach your patch there. Thanks for the patch. Mike Anthony V. Scray wrote: >> Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? >> > Yes. Here is "unified" version. ("context" value for diff -u is 3) > > Previous version I made with wiki guide > http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/HowToGeneratePatchWithWinMerge. > > >> The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce >> the output it would be even better. >> > Currently I'am not familiar with template engine :( Maybe later.. > > >> I'll take it either way though. >> > Thanks. > > >> Mike >> >> ?????? wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> >>> Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. >>> >>> Improvements: >>> 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php >>> file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. >>> 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or >>> multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) >>> >> encoding. Or to use multiletter links. >> >>> P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and >>> criticism:) are welcome. >>> >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> -- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >>> >> scribbling >> >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? >>> >> Try the AJAX >> >>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >> scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your >> hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho >> Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 23:52:10 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:52:10 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4398 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: data/CRMEntity.php modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php schema/DatabaseSchema.xml In-Reply-To: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <4422297A.90309@mikefedyk.com> Jeff, is there a way I can cherry pick parts of changesets from a branch with the svn merge command? vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > Author: mfedyk > Date: Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > New Revision: 4398 > > Log: > merge the non-postgres specific changes from 4.2_postgresql_integration. refs #17 and #62 > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -272,7 +272,7 @@ > } > > //This check is done for products. > - if($module == 'Products' || $module == 'Notes' || $module =='Faq') > + if($module == 'Products' || $module == 'Notes' || $module =='Faq' || $module == 'PriceBook' || $module == 'Vendor' || $module == 'Emails') > { > $vtlog->logthis("module is =".$module,'info'); > $ownerid = $current_user->id; > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -15,8 +15,9 @@ > //if($_REQUEST['module']=='Users') > // $sql = "insert into salesmanactivityrel values (". $_REQUEST["entityid"] .",".$_REQUEST["parid"] .")"; > //else > +if($_REQUEST['module']=='Potentials') > $sql = "insert into contpotentialrel values (". $_REQUEST["entityid"] .",".$_REQUEST["parid"] .")"; > -$adb->query($sql); > +else > $sql = "insert into seproductsrel values (". $_REQUEST["parid"] .",".$_REQUEST["entityid"] .")"; > $adb->query($sql); > header("Location: index.php?action=DetailView&module=Potentials&record=".$_REQUEST["parid"]); > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -571,6 +571,7 @@ > global $adb; > $sqldelete = "delete from activitygrouprelation where activityid=".$activityid; > $adb->query($sqldelete); > + if($groupname == '') return; > $sql = "insert into activitygrouprelation values (".$activityid .",'" .$groupname ."')"; > $adb->query($sql); > > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -160,7 +160,7 @@ > Type=InnoDB > modifiedby > > - > + > tabid > > > @@ -225,7 +225,7 @@ > > fieldname > > - > + > tabid > block > displaytype > @@ -726,7 +726,6 @@ > > > > - > > > > @@ -808,10 +807,10 @@ > Type=InnoDB > accountid > > - > + > potentialid > > - > + > sales_stage > > Type=InnoDB > @@ -845,7 +844,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -945,7 +944,7 @@ > activityid > subject > > - > + > activitytype > date_start > > @@ -957,10 +956,10 @@ > date_start > time_start > > - > + > eventstatus > > - > + > status > eventstatus > > @@ -1003,7 +1002,7 @@ > > > Type=InnoDB > - > + > attachmentsid > > > @@ -1044,7 +1043,7 @@ > Type=InnoDB > crmid > > - > + > attachmentsid > crmid > > @@ -1180,7 +1179,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -1582,7 +1581,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -1757,7 +1756,7 @@ > > ticketid > > - > + > status > > > @@ -1788,6 +1787,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -2381,6 +2381,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -3033,7 +3034,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > Type=InnoDB > @@ -3572,7 +3573,7 @@ > > > > - > + > profileid > tabid > > @@ -3607,11 +3608,11 @@ > tabid > fieldname > > - > + > tabid > profileid > > - > + > visible > profileid > > @@ -3657,10 +3658,10 @@ > tabid > fieldid > > - > + > tabid > > - > + > visible > fieldid > > @@ -3793,7 +3794,7 @@ > > > > - > + > relation_id > > > @@ -4050,10 +4051,10 @@ > > > > - > + > quotestage > > - > + > potentialid > > > @@ -4799,10 +4800,10 @@ > > > > - > + > > > - > + > > > cvid > @@ -4873,6 +4874,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -5070,10 +5072,10 @@ > > > > - > + > > > - > + > > > datefilterid > > > _______________________________________________ > vtigercrm-commits mailing list > vtigercrm-commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > http://lists.vtigercrm.com/mailman/listinfo/vtigercrm-commits > > From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 23 03:04:02 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (philip at vtiger.com) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:04:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. Message-ID: <10a2621b1ce.-3260762611567805994.-1177807435764824079@@vtiger.com> Hi Team, Yesterday we have updated vtigerCRM 5 alpha3 demo at the following url: http://vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php. The reason behind for updating the demo is mainly to get the communitysuggestions and feedback so that we can have a fairlystable release vtigerCRM 5 Beta release. So feel free to test the demo and post bugs/feedback @ http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/newticket While submitting a ticket please ensure that : Select the version as 5.0.0 from the Version field Referto view ticketshttp://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&status=closed&group=version&version=5.0.0&order=statusbefore reporting a new ticket to avoid duplicate tickets. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's more or less the same for these module_map names: accounts activity contact customview email (i would include tables starting with mail also) notes products quotes reports rss users Can this be used as references? Or use all tables originating from the module, for example from squirrelmail in one prefix table name. > .vti_ as default > .vti_a_ for addon > .vti_p_ for plugin > .vti_{modulename}_ for module Best regards, Remco Gerbrands -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Mike Fedyk Verzonden: woensdag 22 maart 2006 9:02 Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database A lot of those tables store many-many relationships between various modules. Which module owns a table when it references to more than one module? I've thought about this before but that really killed the idea for me. If a solution or policy can be made that solves it, then it looks much more interesting. Also I absolutely do not like storing version numbers in table or db names. The migration from 4.2.[0123] should be able to be done by testing for some unique structure that is not in that version and changing it to the current version. Also adodb's data dictionary functions may be able to do this for us. I just want to make sure it does it in a lossless fashion. Mike From jtk at yahoo.com Thu Mar 23 13:34:32 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:34:32 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4398 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: data/CRMEntity.php modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php schema/DatabaseSchema.xml References: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <4422297A.90309@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > Jeff, is there a way I can cherry pick parts of changesets from a branch > with the svn merge command? The way I wrote up the svn merge example, with working-copy merges, would allow you to cherrypick in the following ways (possibly combining ways): a) only include selected files in your svn merge command, pulling only changes to that file into your working copy b) svn merge a smaller revision range, to get a few changesets instead of many. c) after merging changes to your working copy, svn diff your working copy, and manually undo certain changes (reducing the diff to your URL at rev HEAD), before committing. You have complete flexibility with what you commit, svn merge to working copy simply fetches applicable changes for you. From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Fri Mar 24 02:01:22 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:01:22 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. In-Reply-To: <10a2621b1ce.-3260762611567805994.-1177807435764824079@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <003b01c64f10$f11f01d0$4e64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hello Philip, How would I and my UI team be able to submit reviews and comments on the UI? For example, if there is a screen that I mention and need to provide recommendations for? With my clients we would usually perform screen captures and provide comments, circles-and-arrows and other markups for rapid review. Please advice. _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of philip at vtiger.com Sent: 23 March 2006 15:04 To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. Hi Team, Yesterday we have updated vtigerCRM 5 alpha3 demo at the following url: http://vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php. The reason behind for updating the demo is mainly to get the community suggestions and feedback so that we can have a fairly stable release vtigerCRM 5 Beta release. So feel free to test the demo and post bugs/feedback @ http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/newticket While submitting a ticket please ensure that : * Select the version as 5.0.0 from the Version field * Refer to view tickets http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/query?status=new&status=assigned &status=reopened&status=closed&group=version&version=5.0.0&order=status before reporting a new ticket to avoid duplicate tickets. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark them as applicable to version 5.0.0. http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/report The caveat is that the vtiger team is not (yet) using trac tickets and milestones to document their good and rapid work. I think that's a mistake and a lost opportunity, but I wasn't going to push the issue until vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 is imminent. Once the 5.0.0 version is in beta, we as a community have to apply the same disciplines that are being used to stabilize vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to good effect. From jlee at zertis.net Fri Mar 24 16:55:36 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:55:36 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 alpha 3 In-Reply-To: References: <003b01c64f10$f11f01d0$4e64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Message-ID: <44246AD8.9070707@zertis.net> I have a client who wants v5alpha3, so I am turning into a stable version for them. Here are some diffs for some patches. I do not have the time to create my own branch and submit these. Please someone take the time to commit these, to save everyone else the work. Index: includes/database/PearDatabase.php =================================================================== --- includes/database/PearDatabase.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/database/PearDatabase.php (working copy) @@ -435,7 +437,9 @@ /* ADODB newly added. replacement for mysql_result() */ function query_result(&$result, $row, $col=0) + if(!$result) + return null; //$this->println("ADODB query_result r=".$row." c=".$col); $result->Move($row); $rowdata = $this->change_key_case($result->FetchRow()); Index: includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php =================================================================== --- includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php (working copy) @@ -861,9 +861,9 @@ for($i=0; $i<$num_row; $i++) { $rel_tab_id = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"related_tabid"); - echo '
'.$rel_tab_id.'
'; + //echo '
'.$rel_tab_id.'
'; $funtion_name = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"name"); - echo '
'.$funtion_name.'
'; +// echo '
'.$funtion_name.'
'; $label = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"label"); if($rel_tab_id != 0) { Index: includes/utils/export.php =================================================================== --- includes/utils/export.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/utils/export.php (working copy) @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ require_once('modules/Potentials/Opportunity.php'); require_once('modules/Users/User.php'); require_once('modules/Products/Product.php'); - +require_once 'include/utils/UserInfoUtil.php'; global $allow_exports; session_start(); @@ -202,10 +204,12 @@ */ $order_by = ""; - $query = $focus->create_export_query($order_by,$where); - + // I made a new function for security during exporting. It makes sure they only have access + // to export what they would have access to read. Previous to this, anyone who had export writes, could export anything. + $query = $focus->create_export_query($order_by,$where); + $clause = getExportSecurityClause($type); + $query .= "\n and (\n $clause \n)"; + //print "
";
+       //print "
";
        //print $query;

        $result = $adb->query($query,true,"Error exporting $type: 
"."
$query");

Index: utils/UserInfoUtil.php
===================================================================
--- utils/UserInfoUtil.php      (revision 4391)
+++ utils/UserInfoUtil.php      (working copy)
@@ -3730,7 +3730,37 @@
        }
        return $list;
 }
+function getExportSecurityClause($module) {
+       global $current_user;

+       $tabid=getTabid($module);
+       global $current_user;
+       if($current_user)
+       {
+               
require('user_privileges/user_privileges_'.$current_user->id.'.php');
+               
require('user_privileges/sharing_privileges_'.$current_user->id.'.php');
+       }
+
+       $clause = "crmentity.smownerid in(".$current_user->id.") or 
crmentity.smownerid in(select user2role.userid from user2role inner join 
users on users.id=user2role.userid inner join role on 
role.roleid=user2role.roleid where role.parentrole like 
'".$current_user_parent_role_seq."::%') or crmentity.smownerid in(select 
shareduserid from tmp_read_user_sharing_per where 
userid=".$current_user->id." and tabid=".$tabid.")";
+       return $clause;
+}
 function getListViewSecurityParameter($module)
 {
        global $adb;


Hope this helps.
Josh Lee

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sun Mar 26 17:27:33 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:27:33 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility
In-Reply-To: 
References: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <49216030603261427pd3c0c1alef30958f9413be12@mail.gmail.com>

SVG is client-side graphs (or charting in this case)

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG

firefox 1.5 support SVG, (IE6 support it with the adobe plugin)

I heard somewhere that image_graph was planned to support output in SVG...


/sak

On 3/22/06, Michel JACQUEMES  wrote:
> I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some
> work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend
> package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have
> not checked Pear template dependencies.
>
> What do you mean by SVG?
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler
> > Envoy?: mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09
> > ?: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Objet: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility
> >
> > how will this be integrated in the final release ?
> >
> > because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to
> > execute command line commands to install stuff...
> > I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will
> > find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible
> > (because of restrictions on server)
> >
> > I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to
> > put pear files there
> > (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to
> > take this files)
> >
> > btw, michel you are doing a great job here !
> > does image_graph output to SVG ?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Mar 28 22:22:29 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (gopals at vtiger.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:22:29 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 API Documentation
Message-ID: <10a44061414.6947144176994677531.944817448814908012@@vtiger.com>

Dear Team,

As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on accomplishing this task.

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Mar 30 13:01:02 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:31:02 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks better?
Message-ID: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>

Folks

Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these color 
variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks 
appealing to you..

thanks,
Saint


*Model A*


or this one..?

*Model B

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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Thu Mar 30 13:55:13 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:55:13 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C2991.1040101@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi saint, my vote go to model A, more soft for me.
A?ssa
Saint a ?crit :

> Folks
>
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
> working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these 
> color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample 
> looks appealing to you..
>
> thanks,
> Saint
>
>
> *Model A*
>
>
> or this one..?
>
> *Model B
>
> *
>
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From jlee at zertis.net  Thu Mar 30 14:12:54 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:12:54 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>

Saint wrote:

> Folks
>
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
> working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these 
> color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample 
> looks appealing to you..
>
> thanks,
> Saint
>
>
> *Model A*
>
>
> or this one..?
>
> *Model B
>
> *
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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>
Heh, I like B, it is bolder.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From info at GariDigital.com  Thu Mar 30 14:19:49 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:19:49 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com> <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>

I like model A

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 3/30/06, Josh Lee  wrote:
>
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Folks
> >
> > Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are
> > working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these
> > color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample
> > looks appealing to you..
> >
> > thanks,
> > Saint
> >
> >
> > *Model A*
> >
> >
> > or this one..?
> >
> > *Model B
> >
> > *
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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> >
> Heh, I like B, it is bolder.
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
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From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Thu Mar 30 15:16:56 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:16:56 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com> <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
	<677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <994473020603301216u43171a5bod8aca1c60bd30949@mail.gmail.com>

I like A better.    More business like in my opinion.


Jamie


On 3/30/06, Jorge Garifuna  wrote:
>
> I like model A
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com
>
>
> On 3/30/06, Josh Lee  wrote:
> >
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Folks
> > >
> > > Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are
> > > working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these
> > > color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample
> > > looks appealing to you..
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Saint
> > >
> > >
> > > *Model A*
> > >
> > >
> > > or this one..?
> > >
> > > *Model B
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> >
> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> > >
> > Heh, I like B, it is bolder.
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
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From info at adlibweb.com  Thu Mar 30 15:19:04 2006
From: info at adlibweb.com (adlibweb)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>

Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out better), better blending, green button stands out better.

n
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Saint 
  To: vtiger-crm ; LANCER : Developers List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:01 PM
  Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks better?


  Folks

  Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks appealing to you..

  thanks,
  Saint


  Model A


  or this one..?

  Model B




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From nolan at peaceworks.ca  Thu Mar 30 15:27:59 2006
From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:27:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C3F4F.9030001@peaceworks.ca>

yup... A

peace,
nokes

Saint wrote:
> Folks
> 
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are working on. 
> We started the color with blue.. and came across these color variants Model A 
> and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks appealing to you..
> 
> thanks,
> Saint
> 
> 
> *Model A*
> 
> 
> or this one..?
> 
> *Model B
> 
> *
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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From rrg at r2g.nl  Thu Mar 30 16:05:48 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Remco R. Gerbrands)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:05:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
	<009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
Message-ID: <20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200, adlibweb wrote
> Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out 
> better), better blending, green button stands out better.


Agree, A is better.

Remco

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From libregeek at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 00:48:29 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:18:29 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
	<009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
	<20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>
Message-ID: <2315046d0603302148q7606cd2ap3c326da2cd79a913@mail.gmail.com>

A looks cool and elegant.
regards
Manilal

On 31/03/06, Remco R. Gerbrands  wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200, adlibweb wrote
> > Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out
> > better), better blending, green button stands out better.
>
>
> Agree, A is better.
>
> Remco
>
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Mar 31 05:35:08 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:35:08 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
Message-ID: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other 
lang for release.

See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with english.

For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the 
link go to "Hacking Attempt".

Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.

UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.

Screenshot calendar1.jpg, since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format 
here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's 
Day month year).

The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway 
harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as 
vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on 
vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !


A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta 
test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open 
the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and 
relation to promote vtiger outside community.

Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
A?ssa

.
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From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 06:21:58 2006
From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:21:58 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I totally agree with you A?ssa.
I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.

If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.

Best Regards
Jo?o Oliveira.

On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
>
> Hi team,
> i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> lang for release.
>
> See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
>
> For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> link go to "Hacking Attempt".
>
> Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
>
> UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
>
> Screenshot calendar1.jpg, since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> Day month year).
>
> The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
>
>
> A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> relation to promote vtiger outside community.
>
> Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> A?ssa
>
> .
>
>
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From info at adlibweb.com  Fri Mar 31 06:27:01 2006
From: info at adlibweb.com (adlibweb)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:27:01 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>

And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joao Oliveira 
  To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang


  Hello all,

  I totally agree with you A?ssa. 
  I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.

  If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.

  Best Regards
  Jo?o Oliveira.


  On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
    Hi team,
    i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
    lang for release.

    See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with english.

    For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the 
    link go to "Hacking Attempt".

    Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.

    UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.

    Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
    here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
    Day month year).

    The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
    harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
    vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
    vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !


    A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta 
    test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
    the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
    relation to promote vtiger outside community.

    Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english 
    A?ssa

    .


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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 07:20:34 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:20:34 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
Message-ID: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>

once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak

On 3/31/06, adlibweb  wrote:
>
> And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joao Oliveira
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
>
> Hello all,
>
> I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>
> If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
> all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>
> Best Regards
> Jo?o Oliveira.
>
>
> On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
> > Hi team,
> > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > lang for release.
> >
> > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
> >
> > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> >
> > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
> >
> > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> >
> > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > Day month year).
> >
> > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> >
> >
> > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> >
> > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > A?ssa
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>
>
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From richie at vtiger.com  Fri Mar 31 08:30:43 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:30:43 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
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That, is not the exact fact. 
We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues at our end. Once we resolve those, 
we will have it integrated into the product. 
 
/sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time. 
internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we have been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see for everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. Every contribution is important to us and we try hard to 
do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to integrate all of them quickly. 
MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have 
worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the issues. We still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon with his help. 
 
 
Thanks, 
Richie




---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ---- 

  once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak

On 3/31/06, adlibweb <info at adlibweb.com> wrote:
>
> And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joao Oliveira
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
>
> Hello all,
>
> I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>
> If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
> all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>
> Best Regards
> Jo?o Oliveira.
>
>
> On 3/31/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
> > Hi team,
> > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > lang for release.
> >
> > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
> >
> > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> >
> > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
> >
> > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> >
> > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > Day month year).
> >
> > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> >
> >
> > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> >
> > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > A?ssa
> >
> > .
> >
> >
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 10:48:20 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:48:20 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <7528873980224066170@unknownmsgid>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
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	<7528873980224066170@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030603310748j570b0fffp8b073b5d8d47d8a6@mail.gmail.com>

richie, I din't know that, my apologies...


On 3/31/06, Richie  wrote:
> That, is not the exact fact.
> We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues at
> our end. Once we resolve those,
> we will have it integrated into the product.
>
> /sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time.
> internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we have
> been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see for
> everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. Every
> contribution is important to us and we try hard to
> do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to integrate
> all of them quickly.
> MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have
> worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the issues. We
> still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon with his help.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Sergio A. Kessler wrote ----
>
>
>  once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
> is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(
>
> /sak
>
> On 3/31/06, adlibweb  wrote:
> >
> > And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joao Oliveira
> > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> > I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> > loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
> >
> > If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to
> review
> > all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jo?o Oliveira.
> >
> >
> > On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
> > > Hi team,
> > > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > > lang for release.
> > >
> > > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> > english.
> > >
> > > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> > >
> > > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for
> translaters.
> > >
> > > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> > >
> > > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > > Day month year).
> > >
> > > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> > >
> > >
> > > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > > A?ssa
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
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> >
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From rrg at r2g.nl  Fri Mar 31 08:29:44 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:29:44 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Well,

What is against implementing gettext solution from mike into vtigercrm v5?
Not in v4 as that's stable and this would be a new feature: easier
translations.
So what can I do to get this implemented?

Remco


[/sak wrote:]
once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak



From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Mar  1 04:34:41 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:34:41 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on last
	commits for trunk branches on php files
Message-ID: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>

hi team,

i noticed a problem on some commits:

Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php
==============================================================================
Binary files - no diff available.

php files are not binary files ;)
mime-type is false, you must use text/plain.

command under linux/cygwin (thks mike):
find -iname '*.php*' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain

cheers,

fathi


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Wed Mar  1 04:32:44 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:32:44 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on
 last commits for trunk branches on php files
In-Reply-To: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <44056A3C.2080704@mikefedyk.com>

Fathi Boudra wrote:

>hi team,
>
>i noticed a problem on some commits:
>
>Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php
>==============================================================================
>Binary files - no diff available.
>
>php files are not binary files ;)
>mime-type is false, you must use text/plain.
>
>command under linux/cygwin (thks mike):
>find -iname '*.php*' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain
>  
>
One too many asterisks in there...  It should be:

find -iname '*.php' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain




From jtk at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  1 08:40:59 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:40:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on
	last commits for trunk branches on php files
References: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>
	<44056A3C.2080704@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:32:44 -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:

> Fathi Boudra wrote:
> 
>>hi team,
>>
>>i noticed a problem on some commits:
>>
>>Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php
>>==============================================================================
>>Binary files - no diff available.
>>
>>php files are not binary files ;)
>>mime-type is false, you must use text/plain.
>
> One too many asterisks in there...  It should be:
> 
> find -iname '*.php' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain


Also, each committer should have a good [auto-props] section in their
~/.subversion/config file, which properly sets mime-type and eol-type for
all file extensions in use by this project (including .inc, etc.)



From jtk at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  1 14:57:50 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:57:50 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigercrm-5.0.0alpha2 demo looks great
Message-ID: 

Just wanted to congratulate the vtigercrm team on the improvements to the
vtigercrm-5.0.0alpha2 demo. It's really looking quite good. There isn't
really a lot of use for positive feedback in the trac ticket system, so
I'll say it here.

I'd also like to commend the vtigercrm-4.2.x maintainers, whose efforts to
support the stable release are allowing the vtigercrm team to make these
leaps forward.

Thanks again, guys.



From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 13:58:07 2006
From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:58:07 +0000
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Receiving data from outside sources
In-Reply-To: <49216030602280713g71d470edw676dcd0219757fb2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43FB7E8F.7030502@mikefedyk.com>
	
	<440382EA.9090701@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030602271634s362b7038rd469c4d2287b00d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<4403BDF9.6030606@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030602280713g71d470edw676dcd0219757fb2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86f04e340603011058h1a0675e8mea3efc6d7c3a623d@mail.gmail.com>

I found this when i was reading about REST...

http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2004/12/12/rest-to-my-wife

Maybe you want to explain it to your wife... :)

Best Regards
Joao Oliveira.

On 2/28/06, Sergio A. Kessler  wrote:
>
> like, look in
>
> http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
>
> there are various code samples there...
>
> basically you don't need a specialized library, good old
> file_get_contents is your friend ;-)
> (or you can use the curl extension)
>
> I'm imagining something like:
>
> exporting:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=csv
> or
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=xml
>
> importing:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=import_client
>
> this last call should be made by a POST action, passing in the data,
> can be made by a simple php script, something like
>
> foreach line in the source csv_file
> {
>     $postargs = 
>
>     // Get the curl session object
>     $session = curl_init($request);
>
>     // Set the POST options.
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POST, true);
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS, $postargs);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_HEADER, true);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true);
>
>     // Do the POST and then close the session
>     $response = curl_exec($session);
>     curl_close($session);
>
>
> of course, the folder "api" should be protected wrt security.
>
> /sak
>
>
> On 2/28/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> > Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> >
> > >On 2/27/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>The focus of the question is how to get data in and out of vtiger
> using
> > >>public interfaces from another automated system.  I would like to
> renew
> > >>that question.  Is SOAP the only and/or best answer in this area?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >nop.
> > >SOAP is a complex beast that must die.
> > >
> > >you can use REST (web services done right).
> > >
> > >just like yahoo does with php:
> > >
> > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
> > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/howto-reqRestPhp.html
> > >
> > >note that with "output" parameter you can control what you get, ie.
> > >CSV, XML, txt, whatever.
> > >
> > >
> > Have any links to php libraries for REST?  I'm reading through the
> > various articles in Wikipedia right now...
>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 18:23:15 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:23:15 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Receiving data from outside sources
In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603011058h1a0675e8mea3efc6d7c3a623d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43FB7E8F.7030502@mikefedyk.com>
	
	<440382EA.9090701@mikefedyk.com>
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	<4403BDF9.6030606@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030602280713g71d470edw676dcd0219757fb2@mail.gmail.com>
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wow, very illustrative, very...  :-)

I will keep this link handy when someone start to mention acronyms of
complicated and bloated protocols...

cites from the article:

"The protocol I was talking about, HTTP - it's capable of all sorts of
neat stuff that people ignore for some reason."

"Instead, the large majority [of computer people] are busy writing
layers of complex specifications for doing this stuff in a different
way that isn't nearly as useful or eloquent."


he!, if you really want to know the the advantages of SOAP, look at this link:

http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200504/msg00274.html


/sak


On 3/1/06, Joao Oliveira  wrote:
> I found this when i was reading about REST...
>
> http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2004/12/12/rest-to-my-wife
>
> Maybe you want to explain it to your wife... :)
>
> Best Regards
> Joao Oliveira.
>
>
> On 2/28/06, Sergio A. Kessler  wrote:
> >
> like, look in
>
> http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
>
> there are various code samples there...
>
> basically you don't need a specialized library, good old
> file_get_contents is your friend ;-)
> (or you can use the curl extension)
>
> I'm imagining something like:
>
> exporting:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=csv
> or
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=xml
>
> importing:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=import_client
>
> this last call should be made by a POST action, passing in the data,
> can be made by a simple php script, something like
>
>  foreach line in the source csv_file
>  {
>     $postargs = 
>
>     // Get the curl session object
>     $session = curl_init($request);
>
>     // Set the POST options.
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POST, true);
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS, $postargs);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_HEADER, true);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true);
>
>     // Do the POST and then close the session
>     $response = curl_exec($session);
>     curl_close($session);
>
>
> of course, the folder "api" should be protected wrt security.
>
> /sak
>
>
> On 2/28/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> > Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> >
> > >On 2/27/06, Mike Fedyk < mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>The focus of the question is how to get data in and out of vtiger using
> > >>public interfaces from another automated system.  I would like to renew
> > >>that question.  Is SOAP the only and/or best answer in this area?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >nop.
> > >SOAP is a complex beast that must die.
> > >
> > >you can use REST (web services done right).
> > >
> > >just like yahoo does with php:
> > >
> > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
> > > http://developer.yahoo.net/php/howto-reqRestPhp.html
> > >
> > >note that with "output" parameter you can control what you get, ie.
> > >CSV, XML, txt, whatever.
> > >
> > >
> > Have any links to php libraries for REST?  I'm reading through the
> > various articles in Wikipedia right now...
>
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Thu Mar  2 04:52:16 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:52:16 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released!
Message-ID: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>

Dear Team,

We are pleased inform you the release of vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 (development release) for  testing purpose.

Major Features:
Campaign management
Enhanced pre-defined dashboards
AJAXified Edit Fields in all the modules

Intuitive System Administration
Integration of Web services to update all your public listed customer/company profiles
View multidimensional models for product catalog
Latest news on company updates
Shout box for vtiger CRM users
Redesigned Customer Self-service portal
Support for MySQL 4.1.x database system

    Demo: 

    vtiger CRM: http://www.vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php

     admin/admin

    Customer Portal:

    http://www.vtiger.com/products/crm/customerportal_5alpha/

Note: First create a contact in vtiger CRM Alpha demo and get the user name password. Don't forget to enable "Portal User" option in Contact details page.

Download:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/vtigercrm/vtiger_CRM_5_alpha2_Source.tar.gz?download

Installation Procedure:

http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Vtiger_CRM_5_Alpha_2_-_Installation_Guide

Bug Tracker: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/report

Discussions: http://forums.vtiger.com/index.php?c=10

Please do post your suggestions & comments to provide a better product for vtiger community.

Cheers,

Gopal
(On behalf of vtiger Team)


S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
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From ar at im-netz.de  Thu Mar  2 07:00:59 2006
From: ar at im-netz.de (Alexander Rothenberg)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:00:59 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree?
Message-ID: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de>

Hi evryone,
i was trying get the vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree from the
sourceforge-cvs-server with "cvs -z3
-d:pserver:anonymous at cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/vtigercrm co -r
VTIGERCRM_4_2_BRANCH vtiger_crm" but i stil get the 5 alpha 2, can any1
tell me what im doing wrong? or is there a better way to get the 4.2.4
RC2 source?

thx, alex


From fboudra at free.fr  Thu Mar  2 08:10:04 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:10:04 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree?
In-Reply-To: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de>
References: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de>
Message-ID: <200603021410.04813.fboudra@free.fr>

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage


From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Thu Mar  2 08:54:49 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:54:49 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview
In-Reply-To: <4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>
References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com>
	<4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>

saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using
images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations...

/sak

On 2/28/06, Saint  wrote:
>
>         Team,
>
>  The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI.  In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order.
>
>  After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided.
>
>  - Saint
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jamieinnh at gmail.com.idc.adventnet.com  Thu Mar  2 10:18:30 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com.idc.adventnet.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:18:30 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Someone is saying the Demo of vTiger has
	been hacked
Message-ID: <994473020603020718s415f49acx9fe445568a1196b4@mail.gmail.com>

I went to the demo and can't see where it's changed, but has anyone looked
into this?

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=21417#21417


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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Thu Mar  2 12:06:33 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:06:33 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 Release Schedule
In-Reply-To: <43FC5310.90206@mikefedyk.com>
References: <43FBF414.8020407@mikefedyk.com> <43FC5310.90206@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <44072619.5060101@mikefedyk.com>

Hi everyone,

Well we missed our release date, again. :)

I need to do a few checkins before a checkin, and make an rc3.  I want 
to make sure the windows installer is ready so it can be released when 
rc3 goes out and get a day or two of testing.

Other than that I think we're ready for 4.2.4 to be let loose.

Mike

Mike Fedyk wrote:

>Did I say May?  Sorry that should have been *March* 1st.
>
>Mike
>
>Mike Fedyk wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>I am planning on releasing 4.2.4rc1 on Friday, so let's get in all of 
>>the changes that are planned for 4.2.4 before then so we can release 
>>on May 1st.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Thu Mar  2 12:07:29 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:07:29 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview
In-Reply-To: <49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com>	<4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com>

I believe it is generated from text and can be translated properly just 
like everything else.

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using
>images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations...
>
>/sak
>
>On 2/28/06, Saint  wrote:
>  
>
>>        Team,
>>
>> The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI.  In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order.
>>
>> After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided.
>>
>> - Saint
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>http://zohowriter.com/?vt 
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>  
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Mar  2 12:35:04 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:05:04 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview
In-Reply-To: <44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com>
References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com>	<4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>	<49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <44072CC8.9020303@vtiger.com>

Mike, Sak,

In GA the image heading will be replaced with text heading.

-Saint



Mike Fedyk wrote:

>I believe it is generated from text and can be translated properly just 
>like everything else.
>
>Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
>  
>
>>saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using
>>images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations...
>>
>>/sak
>>
>>On 2/28/06, Saint  wrote:
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>       Team,
>>>
>>>The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI.  In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order.
>>>
>>>After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided.
>>>
>>>- Saint
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt 
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Thu Mar  2 15:07:09 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:07:09 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Who is handling vtiger's freshmeat entry?
In-Reply-To: <10990400e17.756168470955524032.5677358827788219315@@vtiger.com>
References: <43FB94F8.6020208@mikefedyk.com>
	<10990400e17.756168470955524032.5677358827788219315@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <4407506D.5000604@mikefedyk.com>

I still don't see an update for alpha2...

Gopal wrote:
>
> Dear Mike,
>
> I will update vtiger project details in freshmeat ASAP.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gopal
>
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ----
>
>     It needs a release notification about 5.0 alpha.
>
>     I use freshmeat for searching open source projects and improving our
>     ranking there will help get us more users and developers IMO.
>
>     Mike
>     _______________________________________________
>     This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still
>     using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the
>     AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho
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>
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From saint at vtiger.com  Fri Mar  3 04:14:16 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:44:16 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
Message-ID: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>

Team,

We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a 
Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major 
modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20, 
50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus 
eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module. To 
facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been 
given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the 
dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral bindings 
to the right.

Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of page 
heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the default 
landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people can select 
their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can select their fav 
module and so, the others.


-Saint

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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Mar  3 04:25:20 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:25:20 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i 
have french users very positive feedback.
A?ssa

Saint a ?crit :

> Team,
>
> We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a 
> Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major 
> modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20, 
> 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus 
> eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module. 
> To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been 
> given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the 
> dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral 
> bindings to the right.
>
> Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of 
> page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the 
> default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people 
> can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can 
> select their fav module and so, the others.
>
>
> -Saint
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>http://zohowriter.com/?vt 
>  
>


From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar  3 10:19:13 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:19:13 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>

saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard
approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two
different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web
usability, you just broke the "page" concept...

there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen.

(I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...)

/sak

On 3/3/06, Webmaster  wrote:
> Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i
> have french users very positive feedback.
> A?ssa
>
> Saint a ?crit :
>
> > Team,
> >
> > We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a
> > Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major
> > modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20,
> > 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus
> > eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module.
> > To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been
> > given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the
> > dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral
> > bindings to the right.
> >
> > Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of
> > page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the
> > default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people
> > can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can
> > select their fav module and so, the others.
> >
> >
> > -Saint
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
> >http://zohowriter.com/?vt
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
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From saint at vtiger.com  Fri Mar  3 14:21:45 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:51:45 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>

sak,

Sorry, I couldnt get what you mean by "two differnet scroll windows". 
Please throw some more light over this! In the At a Glance UI, there is 
only one scrollable DIV layer in the right.



cheers,
Saint



Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard
>approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two
>different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web
>usability, you just broke the "page" concept...
>
>there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen.
>
>(I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...)
>
>/sak
>
>On 3/3/06, Webmaster  wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i
>>have french users very positive feedback.
>>A?ssa
>>
>>Saint a ?crit :
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Team,
>>>
>>>We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a
>>>Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major
>>>modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20,
>>>50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus
>>>eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module.
>>>To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been
>>>given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the
>>>dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral
>>>bindings to the right.
>>>
>>>Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of
>>>page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the
>>>default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people
>>>can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can
>>>select their fav module and so, the others.
>>>
>>>
>>>-Saint
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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From developer at infointegrated.com  Fri Mar  3 08:48:11 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 07:48:11 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <88BAD7A1-DE7C-44A5-827E-5FD40B679FE2@infointegrated.com>

Saint,

A couple of comments:

The new UI looks amazing. it really is slick, and I can't wait for it  
to be released. :)

The Dashboard looks like a website within a website. It doesn't  
appear to be well integrated into vtiger. My main concern is the  
static size of the iframe (not sure that's what it is, just what it  
looks like). This means having a larger display is not an advantage.  
Plus, there's a lot of wasted space on the screen (if you make you  
browser window larger). I hope that this is adjusted for the final  
release. It also appears that the future At a Glance may have the  
same issue.

I really like the new At a Glance... I still think vtiger needs a  
home page that can be customized with daily use information. A sort  
of, "What am I doing today? view". I think of activities, meetings,  
open tickets, email, calendar... the first things I look at every  
day. I'd like to have a place I can quickly see all of them.

Thanks, and keep up the great work!
Brian

On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:14 AM, Saint wrote:

> Team,
>
> We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called At a  
> Glance. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major  
> modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10,  
> 20, 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and  
> thus eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X  
> module. To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All  
> Modules" has been given, which will display all Top X modules one  
> by one (like the dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have  
> included spiral bindings to the right.
>
> Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of  
> page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the  
> default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people  
> can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can  
> select their fav module and so, the others.
>
>
> -Saint
> 
>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still  
> using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the  
> AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho  
> Writer for FREE instead!
> http://zohowriter.com/?vt

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From fp at crm-now.de  Fri Mar  3 10:11:00 2006
From: fp at crm-now.de (Frank Piepiorra)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:11:00 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reports fixing
Message-ID: <200603031512.k23FCCFn012852@doko.im-netz.de>

There has been a posting of a Reports fix, I do not see it included in rc2:

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3884&highlight=report

Regards,
Frank



From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar  3 15:36:42 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:36:42 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>

saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...

I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
within a website"...

look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...

see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
"page" has been broken...

"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
way around a website or finding the content they wanted."

what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html


it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
the graph part (which is not what I want)


/sak
(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.


On 3/3/06, Saint  wrote:
>  sak,
>
>  Sorry, I couldnt get what you mean by "two differnet scroll windows".
> Please throw some more light over this! In the At a Glance UI, there is only
> one scrollable DIV layer in the right.
>
>
>
>  cheers,
>  Saint
>
>
>
>
>  Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>  saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard
> approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two
> different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web
> usability, you just broke the "page" concept...
>
> there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen.
>
> (I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...)
>
> /sak
>
> On 3/3/06, Webmaster  wrote:
>
>
>  Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i
> have french users very positive feedback.
> A?ssa
>
> Saint a ?crit :
>
>
>
>  Team,
>
> We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a
> Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major
> modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20,
> 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus
> eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module.
> To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been
> given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the
> dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral
> bindings to the right.
>
> Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of
> page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the
> default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people
> can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can
> select their fav module and so, the others.
>
>
> -Saint
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From philip at vtiger.com  Fri Mar  3 15:25:18 2006
From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:25:18 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
Message-ID: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com>

Hi Developers,

The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location 
http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe

Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as there was execption during installation.

Regards,
Rajkumar
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 01:23:15 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:23:15 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
In-Reply-To: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com>
References: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <44093253.2000807@mikefedyk.com>

Can someone send me the modified source files?

I don't have a windows machine I can use for testing.

Mike

Philip wrote:

> Hi Developers,
>
> The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location 
> http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe
>
> Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as there was execption during installation.
>
> Regards,
> Rajkumar
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>http://zohowriter.com/?vt 
>  
>


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 01:33:05 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:33:05 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
>
>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
>within a website"...
>
>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...
>
>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
>"page" has been broken...
>
>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
>way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
>
>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
>
>
>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
>the graph part (which is not what I want)
>
>
>/sak
>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.
>  
>
I'm sorry but I completely disagree.

Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with 
the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the 
concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.

And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll 
the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of 
IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in 
Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).


From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 07:24:25 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 13:24:25 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
Message-ID: 

I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.

VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.

While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
we can read that:

"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
License for commercial use."

So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
specifically for commercial usage.

Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.

Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
your opinion?


Marcin
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Sat Mar  4 07:33:56 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:33:56 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <44098934.7060300@vtigercrmfrance.org>

"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) 
For non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph 
Professional License for commercial use."

vtiger CRM is open-source so i think there is no problem.
A?ssa

Marcin Antczak a ?crit :

> I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
>
> VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version 
> there is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 
> license.
>
> While it's true but only partially. Because on 
> http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
> we can read that:
>
> "JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) 
> For non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph 
> Professional License for commercial use."
>
> So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, 
> we need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software 
> designed specifically for commercial usage.
>
> Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
>
> Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what 
> to do with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to 
> config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What 
> is your opinion?
>
>
> Marcin
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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>http://zohowriter.com/?vt 
>  
>


From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Sat Mar  4 07:39:34 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:39:34 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger blogs spammed
Message-ID: <44098A86.7010700@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi,
the vtiger blog is spammed by registered users !

http://blogs.vtiger.com/weblog_entry.php?p=21517#21517

http://blogs.vtiger.com/weblog_entry.php?p=21525#21525

Aissa



From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 09:58:15 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 09:58:15 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
References: <18711.168508935$1141418802@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: 

Philip wrote:
> Hi Developers,
> The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location 
> http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe
> Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php
> as there was execption during installation. Regards,
> Rajkumar

Sigh...

There is no version vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC. There are
release candidates vtigercrm-4.2.4rc1, vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2, and
vtigercrm-4.2.4rc3, and the final release will be vtigercrm-4.2.4. Which
version does this installer resemble?


Thanks for the efforts on an installer, they are appreciated.




From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 10:08:58 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 12:08:58 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
	<440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com>

1. I don't use IE.

2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the
vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux).

3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple
scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that.


/sak

On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
> >saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
> >vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
> >
> >I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
> >within a website"...
> >
> >look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...
> >
> >see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
> >"page" has been broken...
> >
> >"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
> >since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
> >Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
> >doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
> >way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
> >
> >what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
> >jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
> >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
> >
> >
> >it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
> >what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
> >rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
> >the graph part (which is not what I want)
> >
> >
> >/sak
> >(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.
> >
> >
> I'm sorry but I completely disagree.
>
> Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with
> the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the
> concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.
>
> And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll
> the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of
> IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in
> Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 12:37:48 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:37:48 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
In-Reply-To: 
References: <18711.168508935$1141418802@news.gmane.org>
	
Message-ID: <200603041837.49042.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 15:58, Jeff Kowalczyk a ?crit?:
> Philip wrote:
> > Hi Developers,
> > The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following
> > location http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe
> > Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php
> > as there was execption during installation. Regards,
> > Rajkumar
>
> Sigh...
> 
> There is no version vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC. There are
> release candidates vtigercrm-4.2.4rc1, vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2, and
> vtigercrm-4.2.4rc3, and the final release will be vtigercrm-4.2.4. Which
> version does this installer resemble?
> 
>
> Thanks for the efforts on an installer, they are appreciated.

like jeff said, i recall that you can look the small developer documentation :
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki

especially coding style and naming scheme.
comments/contributions are welcomed too.

cheers,

Fathi



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 13:23:09 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:23:09 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit?:
> I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
>
> VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
> is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.
>
> While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
> we can read that:
>
> "JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
> License for commercial use."
>
> So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
> need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
> specifically for commercial usage.
>
> Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
>
> Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
> with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
> config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
> your opinion?
>
>
> Marcin

from debian jpgraph copyright file:
---BEGIN---
For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle 


To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed 
version. You can read on home page:

"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
License for commercial use."

This is not compliant with DFSG #6 

"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a 
specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from 
being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research."

It was downloaded from:
http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz
---END---

with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source" 
term :
"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
License for commercial use."

but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire 
the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on 
a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are 
using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business 
processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company. 
In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either 
through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most 
likely falls under commercial use."

with this statements, my interpretation is:
we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't 
sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services 
around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic 
advantage" and need professional license.

This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph 
professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know.

We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last 
GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ?

cheers,

Fathi



From developer at infointegrated.com  Sat Mar  4 12:13:52 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:13:52 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
	<440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com>

I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should  
not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I  
was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels  
(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with  
two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21"  
screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels  
rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a  
small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page.


On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

> 1. I don't use IE.
>
> 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the
> vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux).
>
> 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple
> scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that.
>
>
> /sak
>
> On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
>> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>>
>>> saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
>>> vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
>>>
>>> I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
>>> within a website"...
>>>
>>> look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking  
>>> about...
>>>
>>> see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept  
>>> of a
>>> "page" has been broken...
>>>
>>> "The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
>>> since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
>>> Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
>>> doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding  
>>> their
>>> way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
>>>
>>> what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
>>> jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
>>> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
>>>
>>>
>>> it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
>>> what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
>>> rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
>>> the graph part (which is not what I want)
>>>
>>>
>>> /sak
>>> (*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web  
>>> usability.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm sorry but I completely disagree.
>>
>> Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with
>> the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the
>> concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.
>>
>> And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't  
>> scroll
>> the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is  
>> because of
>> IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox  
>> and in
>> Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).
>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 13:46:02 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:46:02 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>

Fathi BOUDRA wrote:

>Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit :
>  
>
>>I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
>>
>>VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
>>is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.
>>
>>While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
>>we can read that:
>>
>>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
>>non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
>>License for commercial use."
>>
>>So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
>>need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
>>specifically for commercial usage.
>>
>>Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
>>
>>Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
>>with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
>>config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
>>your opinion?
>>
>>
>>Marcin
>>    
>>
>
>from debian jpgraph copyright file:
>---BEGIN---
>For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle 
>
>
>To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed 
>version. You can read on home page:
>
>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
>non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
>License for commercial use."
>
>This is not compliant with DFSG #6 
>
>"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a 
>specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from 
>being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research."
>
>It was downloaded from:
>http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz
>---END---
>
>with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source" 
>term :
>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
>non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
>License for commercial use."
>
>but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
>http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
>"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire 
>the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on 
>a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are 
>using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business 
>processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company. 
>In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either 
>through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most 
>likely falls under commercial use."
>
>with this statements, my interpretation is:
>we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't 
>sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services 
>around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic 
>advantage" and need professional license.
>
>This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph 
>professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know.
>
>We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last 
>GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ?
>
We need to change to jgraph 1.5.2 and if the GPL version isn't being 
maintained we will need to find an alternative or maintain it ourselves.

Mike


From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 13:47:10 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:47:10 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: 

On 3/4/06, Fathi BOUDRA  wrote:
>
> but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
> http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
> "if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to
> acquire
> the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph
> on
> a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are
> using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business
> processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company.
> In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either
> through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this
> most
> likely falls under commercial use."
>
> with this statements, my interpretation is:
> we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't
> sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services
> around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic
> advantage" and need professional license.



And this is the problem.

Because I agree:

- you don't sell vtiger so you can use jpgraph since you don't gain any
incomes

- you can also distribute jpgraph but then problem is that you don't know
how other use vtiger

- if they use vtiger 'non-commercial' then everything is ok
  (for example open source developers, private users... )

- but as we all know - vtiger is open source product targeted for business
users, so they:

"In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either
through paying customers or improving ___internal___ business processes)
this most
likely falls under commercial use."

So although you can distribute jpgraph, you can use this as open source
developer etc. then other _business_ users violate JpGraph license and
should buy 'JpGraph professional' license or - remove/disable this library
in vtiger - or downgrade library that is bundled with vtiger to 1.5.2 as
Fathi said.


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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 13:48:35 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 15:48:35 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph


On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> Fathi BOUDRA wrote:
>
> >Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit :
> >
> >
> >>I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
> >>
> >>VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
> >>is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.
> >>
> >>While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
> >>we can read that:
> >>
> >>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> >>non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
> >>License for commercial use."
> >>
> >>So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
> >>need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
> >>specifically for commercial usage.
> >>
> >>Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
> >>
> >>Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
> >>with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
> >>config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
> >>your opinion?
> >>
> >>
> >>Marcin
> >>
> >>
> >
> >from debian jpgraph copyright file:
> >---BEGIN---
> >For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle
> >
> >
> >To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed
> >version. You can read on home page:
> >
> >"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> >non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional
> >License for commercial use."
> >
> >This is not compliant with DFSG #6
> >
> >"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a
> >specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from
> >being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research."
> >
> >It was downloaded from:
> >http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz
> >---END---
> >
> >with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source"
> >term :
> >"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> >non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional
> >License for commercial use."
> >
> >but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
> >http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
> >"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire
> >the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on
> >a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are
> >using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business
> >processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company.
> >In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either
> >through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most
> >likely falls under commercial use."
> >
> >with this statements, my interpretation is:
> >we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't
> >sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services
> >around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic
> >advantage" and need professional license.
> >
> >This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph
> >professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know.
> >
> >We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last
> >GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ?
> >
> We need to change to jgraph 1.5.2 and if the GPL version isn't being
> maintained we will need to find an alternative or maintain it ourselves.
>
> Mike
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 14:03:24 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:03:24 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph

Without knowing much about the library API itself, this has the added
advantage that it is PHP4/5 compatible. jpgraph on the other hand, has two
incompatible versions:

PHP4: JpGraph 1.x - series Note: The 1.x series is only for PHP4. It will
not work on PHP5. Version: 1.20.3 (18 Feb 2006)

PHP5: JpGraph 2.x - series Note: The 2.x series is only for PHP5. It will
not work on PHP4 Version: 2.1.1 (19 Feb 2006)

I know we're not supporting PHP5 at the moment, but that's one less thing
to worry about when the time comes. FWIW ran an old version of vtigercrm
on PHP 5 for a while, and jpgraph was the only obvious thing that didn't
work.



From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 14:08:22 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:08:22 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>

Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:

>Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>  
>
>>http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph
>>    
>>
>
>Without knowing much about the library API itself, this has the added
>advantage that it is PHP4/5 compatible. jpgraph on the other hand, has two
>incompatible versions:
>
>PHP4: JpGraph 1.x - series Note: The 1.x series is only for PHP4. It will
>not work on PHP5. Version: 1.20.3 (18 Feb 2006)
>
>PHP5: JpGraph 2.x - series Note: The 2.x series is only for PHP5. It will
>not work on PHP4 Version: 2.1.1 (19 Feb 2006)
>
>I know we're not supporting PHP5 at the moment, but that's one less thing
>to worry about when the time comes. FWIW ran an old version of vtigercrm
>on PHP 5 for a while, and jpgraph was the only obvious thing that didn't
>work.
>  
>
Bye bye jgraph.

Sounds good and we will punt jgraph ASAP.   For now we will use jgraph 
1.5.2 until it is replaced.

Mike


From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 14:05:51 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:05:51 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph

I'd also like to ask the prevailing opinion on what the licensing
difference would be if (graph library X) were an external dependency. 

I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of
course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks
of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but
now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.

Let vtiger worry about its own GPL license only. Let the distro
maintainers, and user-administrator decide if vtigercrm and
well-specified prerequisites are compatible with their free-software
policies.



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 14:27:08 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 20:27:08 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr>

good news :)

we've got an agreement :
* short term :
- replace current jpgraph 1.20.3, and use last gpl release 1.5.2
- indeed, some "regression" tests are needed ...
* long term :
- provide alternative -> Image_Graph, LGPL licensed
http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph

We need also vtiger core team comments, especially for 5.x.
ATM, there's only Image_graph alternative proposal, but if you know a good 
competitor feel free to submit :)

regarding last jeff post:
Image_graph v0.7.1 is in debian (php-image-graph)

debian/ubuntu package are on their way to drop :
* adodb
* squirrelmail
* phpsysinfo

and use distribution package.

cheers,

Fathi


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 14:41:57 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:41:57 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>

Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:

>Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>  
>
>>http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph
>>    
>>
>
>I'd also like to ask the prevailing opinion on what the licensing
>difference would be if (graph library X) were an external dependency. 
>
>I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of
>course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks
>of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but
>now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
>distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.
>  
>

This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the 
vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything 
there.  Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water.  I don't think 
this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues.

>Let vtiger worry about its own GPL license only. Let the distro
>maintainers, and user-administrator decide if vtigercrm and
>well-specified prerequisites are compatible with their free-software
>policies.
>  
>
Hold on here.

Vtiger code is VPL (modified MPL) and forked SPL (borked MPL) code.  
There are several modules that are other licenses.

Nowhere is the vtiger core GPL AFAIK.  I'm pushing to find ways to make 
added files licensed under the LGPL, but haven't gotten very far on that 
so far...

Vtiger team, please stop using the VPL and relicense vtiger code under 
LGPL *only*.


From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 14:46:48 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:46:48 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
References: 
	
	<4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>
	<200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: 

Fathi BOUDRA wrote:
> regarding last jeff post:
> Image_graph v0.7.1 is in debian (php-image-graph)
> 
> debian/ubuntu package are on their way to drop :
> * adodb
> * squirrelmail
> * phpsysinfo
> 
> and use distribution package.

Is there a generally applicable idiom to check the existence and version
number of PHP libraries, much like we do for the gd extension (meaning C
extension, I presume):

   "2.0") { ... }

If so, it would be great to put those in a concise script that is called
by 1checkSystem.php.

This would make it easier to update external
dependencies (without mucking with the PHP templates), and also to
inventory dependency requirements for distro packagers.



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 15:07:27 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 21:07:27 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042107.27158.fboudra@free.fr>

> Vtiger code is VPL (modified MPL) and forked SPL (borked MPL) code.
> There are several modules that are other licenses.
>
> Nowhere is the vtiger core GPL AFAIK.  I'm pushing to find ways to make
> added files licensed under the LGPL, but haven't gotten very far on that
> so far...
>
> Vtiger team, please stop using the VPL and relicense vtiger code under
> LGPL *only*.

seconded on this way.

MPL is considered by some people a "not so free license".
from my point of view, SPL/VPL must be avoided.

At the begining, i searched for a crm software and found sugar.
Drop it in favor of vtigercrm, because of licensing issues.
some people tells me: v5.x will be LGPL.

I already asked about clarification :
http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2006-February/000102.html

no reply ...

cheers,

Fathi


From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 15:22:09 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 21:22:09 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 20:41, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?:
> >I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of
> >course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks
> >of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but
> >now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
> >distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.
> > ?
>
> This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the
> vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything
> there. ?Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water. ?I don't think
> this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues.

from the beginning, there's architectural problem to keep our own copies of 
softwares inside vtigercrm. We must deal with all licenses problem.

We must focus on vigercrm code only and integration with external 
dependencies. Yes, it's only dependencies and not vtigercrm core code.
These 3rd party software must be packaged correctly by packagers, it's their 
job.

vtigercrm really need code cleanup, and a modular view of vtigercrm 
"distribution".



From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 16:17:01 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 22:17:01 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	
	<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com> <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: 

On 3/4/06, Fathi BOUDRA  wrote:
>
> Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 20:41, Mike Fedyk a ?crit:
> > >I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking,
> of
> > >course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private
> snapshots/forks
> > >of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades,
> but
> > >now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
> > >distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.
> > >
> >
> > This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the
> > vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything
> > there. Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water. I don't think
> > this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues.
>
> from the beginning, there's architectural problem to keep our own copies
> of
> softwares inside vtigercrm. We must deal with all licenses problem.
>
> We must focus on vigercrm code only and integration with external
> dependencies. Yes, it's only dependencies and not vtigercrm core code.
> These 3rd party software must be packaged correctly by packagers, it's
> their
> job.
>
> vtigercrm really need code cleanup, and a modular view of vtigercrm
> "distribution".
>


I agree in 100%

at this moment I modularized:

- adodb
- libphp-log4php

and work on:

- squirrelmail
- phpsysinfo
- xtemplate
- tutos

and think about:

- phpBB
- fpdf
- phpmail


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From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 17:11:44 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:11:44 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
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Another question - who and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or remove it
completely?


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From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 17:22:23 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:22:23 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	
Message-ID: <200603042322.23411.fboudra@free.fr>

> Another question - who

vtiger maintenance team

> and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or remove it completely ?

scheduled for 4.2.5. We're short in time for 4.2.4.
that can be trivial, but tests are a requirement.

but i'm not 4.2.4 release manager so i prefer mike or matt official 
confirmation.

feel free to submit patch on the ticket that i'll create in some minutes.

cheers,

Fathi


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 17:23:35 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:23:35 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 		<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
	<200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>	
	
Message-ID: <440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>

What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3?  If jgraph is newer than 1.5.2 then 
we're already in violation so leave the current version of jgraph in 
4.2.4 and then we can use 1.5.2 or another replacement in vtiger 4.2.5. 

If vtiger 4.2.3 had 1.5.2 or earlier, then we should just revert and put 
in the replacement when someone has done the patch.

Marcin Antczak wrote:
> Another question - who and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or 
> remove it completely?
>
>
> Marcin
>
>
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From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 17:33:06 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:33:06 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:23, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?:
> What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3 ?

1.20.3 ...

opened:
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 17:34:34 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:34:34 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	<440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>
	<200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <200603042334.34955.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:33, Fathi BOUDRA a ?crit?:
> Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:23, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?:
> > What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3 ?
>
> 1.20.3 ...
>
> opened:
> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58
> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58

typo error :
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/59



From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Sun Mar  5 05:23:56 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:23:56 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Support of MySQL 5 in 4.1 version
Message-ID: 

Hi all,

 

Pursuing my efforts on database compatibility, find joined somme patches
allowing support of MySQL 5.0. Something remarqable to notice is that most
of the changes have the same origin than those for mssql or postgres
support.

 

It also lights up some defects in vtiger database schema, that could help to
solve some issues in current versions.

 

These patches are made to keep compatibility with previous versions of
MySQL. They have been tested with MySQL 4.1.16 (limited test according to
the time I have).

 

Requirements :

upgrade to last version of AXMLS package (1.0.2 include MySQL 5 support) in
adodb directory

patch to adodb-datadict.inc.php to solve MySQL 5.0 bug with default value of
TIMESTAMP fields.

 

CONFIG :

PHP 5.1.2

MySQL 5.0.18

 

ABSTRACT

 

DatabaseSchema :

ON DELETE CASCADE -> ON DELETE NO ACTION (already documented)

change cvcolumnlist index (primary key not unique)

change selectcolumn index (primary key not unique)

change relcriteria index (primary key not unique)

change faqcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing default
value)

change ticketcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing
default value)

 

Utils :

getDBInsertDateValue change empty date ('--') -> '0000-00-00'

replace contact list query joins according to SQL standards

 

CRMEntity, LoginHistory, PopulateComboValues, PopulateReports:

replace default field value from "''" to "DEFAULT"

 

Security :

replace default field value from "''" to "NULL" in Tab INSERT query

 

COMMENTS

 

Database schema, primary key not unique

 

CREATE of cvcolumnlist :
columnindexType=InnoDB
is changed to : cvidcolumnindex columnindexType=InnoDB
cvid is not unique, several columns for same customview TIMESTAMP default values There is probably a bug in MySQL 5.0. CREATE TABLE DATETIME NOT NULL is supposed to default to CURRENT_TIMESTAMP but it doesn't. DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP and DATETIME DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP are not accepted That is the reason of the patch in adodb-datadict.inc.php, it generates : DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT '0000-00-00 00:00:00' which is accepted. Note : I have probably forgotten some clauses in XML schema. Hope this will help in building a more opened software. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/d6524d45/attachment-0002.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Patches-4.2.4-MySQL5.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 5188 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/d6524d45/attachment-0002.bin From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Sun Mar 5 05:30:25 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:30:25 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008301c6403f$d0ff2fe0$0a64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hi there, I will have to agree that we shouldn't use technology for technology's sake. Being part of a company that has an entire division that focuses on fixing and solving user interfacing issues, I would have to agree wholeheartedly that doing something just "because we can ("tech superior") and the others are losers (ie. The rest of the world) if they still use IE, the inferior browser which has over 90% of the market but it still cannot beat us, the Firefox elite" is not going to bring a technically superior product to the masses. The concept of working on opensource is great, but to make something that the masses will use, we would have to understand that the success of any good software lies on being as simple and idiot-proof as possible to use/install. PS. Sorry for contributing only now, my usability team and I have been tied up with projects all the way till May. -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Sergio A. Kessler Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:09 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised 1. I don't use IE. 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. /sak On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > >saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two > >vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... > > > >I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website > >within a website"... > > > >look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about... > > > >see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a > >"page" has been broken... > > > >"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, > >since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. > >Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that > >doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their > >way around a website or finding the content they wanted." > > > >what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, > >jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: > >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html > > > > > >it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see > >what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I > >rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling > >the graph part (which is not what I want) > > > > > >/sak > >(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability. > > > > > I'm sorry but I completely disagree. > > Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with > the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the > concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. > > And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll > the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of > IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in > Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! http://zohowriter.com/?vt From saint at vtiger.com Sun Mar 5 03:14:51 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:44:51 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> Message-ID: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module with non-div layout. The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the *Show All Modules*, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables of records as usual. We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? - Saint Brian Devendorf wrote: >I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. > > >On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > >>1. I don't use IE. >> >>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >> >>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >> >> >>/sak >> >>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >> >>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>>>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >>>> >>>>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>>>within a website"... >>>> >>>>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>>>about... >>>> >>>>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>>>of a >>>>"page" has been broken... >>>> >>>>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>>>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>>>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>>>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>>>their >>>>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >>>> >>>>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>>>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>>>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >>>> >>>> >>>>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>>>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>>>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>>>the graph part (which is not what I want) >>>> >>>> >>>>/sak >>>>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>>>usability. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >>> >>>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >>> >>>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>>scroll >>>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>>because of >>>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>>and in >>>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/522932b2/attachment-0002.html From fboudra at free.fr Sun Mar 5 06:44:08 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:44:08 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Support of MySQL 5 in 4.1 version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603051244.09107.fboudra@free.fr> thanks michel, i'll add your patch to ticket 43: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/43 cheers, Fathi Le Dimanche 5 Mars 2006 11:23, Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit?: > Hi all, > > > > Pursuing my efforts on database compatibility, find joined somme patches > allowing support of MySQL 5.0. Something remarqable to notice is that most > of the changes have the same origin than those for mssql or postgres > support. > > > > It also lights up some defects in vtiger database schema, that could help > to solve some issues in current versions. > > > > These patches are made to keep compatibility with previous versions of > MySQL. They have been tested with MySQL 4.1.16 (limited test according to > the time I have). > > > > Requirements : > > upgrade to last version of AXMLS package (1.0.2 include MySQL 5 support) in > adodb directory > > patch to adodb-datadict.inc.php to solve MySQL 5.0 bug with default value > of TIMESTAMP fields. > > > > CONFIG : > > PHP 5.1.2 > > MySQL 5.0.18 > > > > ABSTRACT > > > > DatabaseSchema : > > ON DELETE CASCADE -> ON DELETE NO ACTION (already documented) > > change cvcolumnlist index (primary key not unique) > > change selectcolumn index (primary key not unique) > > change relcriteria index (primary key not unique) > > change faqcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing default > value) > > change ticketcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing > default value) > > > > Utils : > > getDBInsertDateValue change empty date ('--') -> '0000-00-00' > > replace contact list query joins according to SQL standards > > > > CRMEntity, LoginHistory, PopulateComboValues, PopulateReports: > > replace default field value from "''" to "DEFAULT" > > > > Security : > > replace default field value from "''" to "NULL" in Tab INSERT query > > > > COMMENTS > > > > Database schema, primary key not unique > > > > CREATE of cvcolumnlist : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > columnindex > > > > Type=InnoDB > > > >
> > > > is changed to : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cvid > > columnindex > > > > > > columnindex > > > > Type=InnoDB > > > >
> > cvid is not unique, several columns for same customview > > > > TIMESTAMP default values > > > > There is probably a bug in MySQL 5.0. > > > > CREATE TABLE > > DATETIME NOT NULL > > > > is supposed to default to CURRENT_TIMESTAMP but it doesn't. > > > > DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP > > and > > DATETIME DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP > > are not accepted > > > > That is the reason of the patch in adodb-datadict.inc.php, it generates : > > > > DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT '0000-00-00 00:00:00' > > > > which is accepted. > > Note : I have probably forgotten some clauses in XML > schema. > > > > Hope this will help in building a more opened software. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Sun Mar 5 16:43:56 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:43:56 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <440B5B9C.5080403@mikefedyk.com> Sounds good, but a workable middle-ground can be to have only one area in At-a-Glance will be scrollable. This way you can show everything you want, with the tabs always visible but only one part of the page can scroll. Saint wrote: > After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions > about using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. > > For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one > module with non-div layout. > > The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs > in 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. > > The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in > the *Show All Modules*, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. > Though this actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs > from eye-sight) it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching > the page top. Clicking the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top > Leads etc will list the tables of records as usual. > > We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. > Depending on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. > > So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? > > - Saint > > > > > > Brian Devendorf wrote: > >>I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >>not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >>was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >>(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >>two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >>screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >>rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >>small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. >> >> >>On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >>>1. I don't use IE. >>> >>>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >>> >>>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >>> >>> >>>/sak >>> >>>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>>>>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >>>>> >>>>>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>>>>within a website"... >>>>> >>>>>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>>>>about... >>>>> >>>>>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>>>>of a >>>>>"page" has been broken... >>>>> >>>>>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>>>>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>>>>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>>>>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>>>>their >>>>>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >>>>> >>>>>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>>>>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>>>>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>>>>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>>>>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>>>>the graph part (which is not what I want) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>/sak >>>>>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>>>>usability. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >>>> >>>>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>>>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>>>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >>>> >>>>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>>>scroll >>>>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>>>because of >>>>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>>>and in >>>>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>>Writer for FREE instead! >>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > From andre at dreamlab.net Mon Mar 6 05:01:25 2006 From: andre at dreamlab.net (andre at dreamlab.net) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:01:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP support in 5.0 Message-ID: <23469.138.190.15.46.1141639285.squirrel@mailer.dreamlab.net> Hello, I tried to use LDAP as user database backend, but it didn't really work out. I read that the LDAP patches are included, however, some files are missing (authTypes/LDAP.php). But adding those files doesn't really help neither. What is the state of the LDAP integration ? Is there a recent howto or description somewhere ? regards andr? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 05:32:17 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:32:17 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How to stream data directly to database without reading entire file into memory? Message-ID: <440C0FB1.3060205@mikefedyk.com> Hi all, I'm having an issue with the upload code. It reads the entire file into memory and base64 encodes it before sending it to the database. It fails storing a 5MB file with a 32MB memory limit. I looked through the adodb docs and thought I found a solution with UpdateBlobFile, but it reads the entire file into memory also. Searching through google didn't turn anything up for php, I found a few things for VB or .net but that won't help us here. Anyone have a solution? From sergiokessler at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 08:29:44 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 10:29:44 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> hi saint, I don't have a problem with this, but let me point that this is not a new experiment. for a unknow reasons many humans believe they are the first to do what they do, but in fact what they are doing has been tryed many moons ago... and many times has been also analyzed many moons ago... it happens to me in programming every time, when I'am confronted with a problem, my first reaction is "well, I can't be the only one with this problem, sure this problem has been raised before and solved before by someone else" so, instead of wasting my time trying to invent something already invented, I just focus my energy in searching for the available solution. and in my many years of programming I never invented something new :-) and this is exactly what I'm trying to tell you, don't be fooled thinking the problem you face rigth now, is something new to the usability of web systems. you are *not* the first to face this problem, in fact this problem has been raised, studied and analyzed many time ago (it comes from the frames era) and has been the subject of many people specialized in the field of web usability. yes, you can experiment with this problem, I don't have any problem with that, but what you are doing is nothing new. /sak ps: "(you lose the top tabs from eye-sight)" this is not a problem, it happens on almost every site. ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the whole page. On 3/5/06, Saint wrote: > After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about > using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. > > For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module > with non-div layout. > > The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in > 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. > > The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the > Show All Modules, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this > actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) > it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking > the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables > of records as usual. > > We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending > on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. > > So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? > > - Saint > > > > > > > Brian Devendorf wrote: > I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should > not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I > was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels > (guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with > two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" > screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels > rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a > small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. > > > On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > > 1. I don't use IE. > > 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the > vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). > > 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple > scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. > > > /sak > > On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > > saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two > vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... > > I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website > within a website"... > > look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking > about... > > see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept > of a > "page" has been broken... > > "The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, > since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. > Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that > doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding > their > way around a website or finding the content they wanted." > > what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, > jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: > http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html > > > it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see > what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I > rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling > the graph part (which is not what I want) > > > /sak > (*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web > usability. > > > > I'm sorry but I completely disagree. > > Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with > the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the > concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. > > And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't > scroll > the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is > because of > IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox > and in > Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still > using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the > AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho > Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > From libregeek at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 09:03:30 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:33:30 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Module Management Message-ID: <2315046d0603060603i420615d9x@mail.gmail.com> Hello vtiger team, Sorry for cross-posting, earlier I have posted the same thread in Vtiger Forums. I had experimented with dotproject for more than a year and the most striking feature I noticed about dotproject is the module management. In dotproject the mosules can be added and configured from the web-interface and most of them are independent. so we can easily move them off. This gives both site admins and developers much more flexibility and freedom. IMHO, some modules may be identified as core modules and they should be included by default. All other modules may be installed and used at the site admin's descretion. In this way we can avoid some of the modules like Shoutbox, dashboard if it's not required. This also enhance the development of more independent modules/plugins. It will also reduce the tasks of the core developers integrating the new modules. This has more significance now, because vtiger is moving on to new vtigerforge.com and this will also lead to the gradual development of vtigerCRM API. Like to hear from the developers in this regard. TIA Manilal From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 6 10:23:39 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:23:39 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available In-Reply-To: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com> References: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <200603061623.39881.fboudra@free.fr> > Hi Developers, > > The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following > location http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe > > Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as > there was execption during installation. > > Regards, > Rajkumar i looked at your changes as there's a related commit today (r4057) and tested installshield based installer. Installation works fine, but there's some mistake like config.template.php is broken. In htdocs\vtigerCRM dir, config.inc.php and config.template are identical. You re-introduced APACHE and MYSQL parameters, to fix installshield based installer : $mysql_dir = 'MYSQLINSTALLDIR'; $mysql_bundled = 'MYSQLBUNDLEDSTATUS'; $apache_dir = 'APACHEINSTALLDIR'; $apache_bin = 'APACHEBIN'; $apache_conf = 'APACHECONF'; $apache_port = 'APACHEPORT'; $apache_bundled = 'APACHEBUNDLED'; Do you continue to provide installshield based installer for future release or as already proposed, switch to vtigercrm addon for xampp (using nsis installer) ? $root_directory and all related dirs (like $cache_dir) are wrong, must be variables. In previous revision, we've got "_VT_*" You re-introduced version in database name: $db_name = 'vtigercrm4_2_4'; i removed it previously, because we didn't need to have a different database name for each release, and if we want a database versioning, please not in database name. Finally, you fixed installshield based installer but source installer is broken. cheers, Fathi PS: i didn't find any zip with the fixes sent to the mailing list. From saint at vtiger.com Mon Mar 6 10:09:44 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:39:44 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440C50B8.6090601@vtiger.com> Sak, I agree. There may be a solution out there. I will look into the usability resources and find out :-) cheers, Saint Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >hi saint, > >I don't have a problem with this, but let me point that this is not a >new experiment. > >for a unknow reasons many humans believe they are the first to do what >they do, but in fact what they are doing has been tryed many moons >ago... and many times has been also analyzed many moons ago... > >it happens to me in programming every time, when I'am confronted with >a problem, my first reaction is "well, I can't be the only one with >this problem, sure this problem has been raised before and solved >before by someone else" >so, instead of wasting my time trying to invent something already >invented, I just focus my energy in searching for the available >solution. >and in my many years of programming I never invented something new :-) > >and this is exactly what I'm trying to tell you, >don't be fooled thinking the problem you face rigth now, is something >new to the usability of web systems. > >you are *not* the first to face this problem, in fact this problem has >been raised, studied and analyzed many time ago (it comes from the >frames era) >and has been the subject of many people specialized in the field of >web usability. > >yes, you can experiment with this problem, I don't have any problem >with that, but what you are doing is nothing new. > > >/sak >ps: "(you lose the top tabs from eye-sight)" this is not a problem, it >happens on almost every site. >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the >whole page. > > >On 3/5/06, Saint wrote: > > >> After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about >>using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. >> >> For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module >>with non-div layout. >> >> The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in >>2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. >> >> The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the >>Show All Modules, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this >>actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) >>it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking >>the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables >>of records as usual. >> >> We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending >>on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. >> >> So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? >> >> - Saint >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Brian Devendorf wrote: >> I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >>not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >>was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >>(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >>two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >>screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >>rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >>small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. >> >> >>On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >> 1. I don't use IE. >> >>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >> >>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >> >> >>/sak >> >>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >> >> Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >> saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >> >>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>within a website"... >> >>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>about... >> >>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>of a >>"page" has been broken... >> >>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>their >>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >> >>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >> >> >>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>the graph part (which is not what I want) >> >> >>/sak >>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>usability. >> >> >> >> I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >> >>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >> >>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>scroll >>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>because of >>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>and in >>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >> >> _______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your >>desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, >>collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your >>desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, >>collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060306/134a19fa/attachment-0002.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 14:43:09 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 11:43:09 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigercrm 4.2.4rc2 build available In-Reply-To: <109d03d4868.1918216477718176054.8073463117345362115@@vtiger.com> References: <109d03d4868.1918216477718176054.8073463117345362115@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <440C90CD.7040809@mikefedyk.com> Posted in forum. Let's see what they find... Philip wrote: > Hi Developers, > > The exe and bin version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 is available in the following location > > http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.bin > http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.exe > > Regards, > Philip > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 16:03:54 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:03:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the >whole page. > Good. The less printing the better. ;) From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 16:16:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:16:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4057 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: config.template.php install/2setConfig.php In-Reply-To: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> First of all, did you even look at the diff before committing?! >Author: saraj >Date: Mon Mar 6 06:20:40 2006 >New Revision: 4057 > >Log: >changes made to support multiple packaging > >Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/config.template.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php > > > Checking differences without reporting white space: diff -uw config.template.php.r4056 config.template.php.r4057 >Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/config.template.php >--- config.template.php.r4056 2006-03-06 12:01:28.000000000 -0800 >+++ config.template.php.r4057 2006-03-06 12:01:40.000000000 -0800 >@@ -1,17 +1,17 @@ > /********************************************************************************* >- * The contents of this file are subject to the SugarCRM Public License Version 1.1.2 >- * ("License"); You may not use this file except in compliance with the >- * License. You may obtain a copy of the License at http://www.sugarcrm.com/SPL >- * Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" basis, >- * WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License for >- * the specific language governing rights and limitations under the License. >- * The Original Code is: SugarCRM Open Source >- * The Initial Developer of the Original Code is SugarCRM, Inc. >- * Portions created by SugarCRM are Copyright (C) SugarCRM, Inc.; >- * All Rights Reserved. >- * Contributor(s): ______________________________________. >-********************************************************************************/ >+3 * The contents of this file are subject to the SugarCRM Public License Version 1.1.2 >+4 * ("License"); You may not use this file except in compliance with the >+5 * License. You may obtain a copy of the License at http://www.sugarcrm.com/SPL >+6 * Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" basis, >+7 * WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License for >+8 * the specific language governing rights and limitations under the License. >+9 * The Original Code is: SugarCRM Open Source >+10 * The Initial Developer of the Original Code is SugarCRM, Inc. >+11 * Portions created by SugarCRM are Copyright (C) SugarCRM, Inc.; >+12 * All Rights Reserved. >+13 * Contributor(s): ______________________________________. >+14 ********************************************************************************/ > > include('vtigerversion.php'); > >@@ -33,20 +33,30 @@ > $HELPDESK_SUPPORT_NAME = 'your-domain name'; > > /* database configuration >- db_server >- db_port >- db_hostname >- db_username >- db_password >- db_name >-*/ >+36 db_server >+37 db_port >+38 db_hostname >+39 db_username >+40 db_password >+41 db_name >+42 */ >+ $mysql_dir = 'MYSQLINSTALLDIR'; > > Oh goody! We have number prefixes now! > >+ $mysql_bundled = 'MYSQLBUNDLEDSTATUS'; > NO This is not used in the code and if the installer needs it, then have the installer make a file that keeps track of this info (or use the registry). > $dbconfig['db_server'] = '_DBC_SERVER_'; >-$dbconfig['db_port'] = ':_DBC_PORT_'; >-$dbconfig['db_username'] = '_DBC_USER_'; >-$dbconfig['db_password'] = '_DBC_PASS_'; > $dbconfig['db_name'] = '_DBC_NAME_'; > $dbconfig['db_type'] = '_DBC_TYPE_'; >+$apache_dir = 'APACHEINSTALLDIR'; >+$apache_bin = 'APACHEBIN'; >+$apache_conf = 'APACHECONF'; >+$apache_port = 'APACHEPORT'; >+ $apache_bundled = 'APACHEBUNDLED'; > Same here. Don't keep variables used for the installer in the vtiger source. >+ $dbconfig['db_username'] = '_DBC_USER_'; >+ $dbconfig['db_password'] = '_DBC_PASS_'; >+ $dbconfig['db_port'] = ':_DBC_PORT_'; >+ $mysql_username = '_DBC_USER_'; >+ $mysql_password = '_DBC_PASS_'; >+ $mysql_port = '_DBC_PORT_'; > You are now duplicating variables! > > // TODO: test if port is empty > // TODO: set db_hostname dependending on db_type >@@ -78,24 +88,24 @@ > $site_URL = '_SITE_URL_'; > > // root directory path >-$root_directory = '_VT_ROOTDIR_'; >+ $root_directory = 'C:\Program Files\vtigerCRM4.2.4\apache\htdocs\vtigerCRM/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // cache direcory path >-$cache_dir = '_VT_CACHEDIR_'; >+ $cache_dir = 'cache/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // tmp_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = images/ >-$tmp_dir = '_VT_TMPDIR_'; >+ $tmp_dir = 'cache/images/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // import_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = import/ >-$import_dir = '_VT_IMPORTDIR_'; >+ $import_dir = 'cache/import/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // upload_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = upload/ >-$upload_dir = '_VT_UPLOADDIR_'; >+ $upload_dir = 'cache/upload/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // mail server parameters >-$mail_server = '_MAIL_SERVER_'; >-$mail_server_username = '_MAIL_USERNAME_'; >-$mail_server_password = '_MAIL_PASSWORD_'; >+ $mail_server = ''; >+ $mail_server_username = ''; >+ $mail_server_password = ''; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. >Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php >============================================================================== >--- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php (original) >+++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php Mon Mar 6 06:20:40 2006 >@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ > $cache_dir = "cache/"; > > if (is_file("config.php") && is_file("config.inc.php")) { >- require_once("config.php"); >+ require_once("config.template.php"); > > Bad. config.template.php is not meant to be called from the code. It is only used by the installer. > session_start(); > > if(isset($upload_maxsize)) >@@ -100,10 +100,10 @@ > > if (isset($_REQUEST['db_name'])) > $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; >- elseif (isset($dbconfig['db_name'])) >+ elseif (isset($dbconfig['db_name']) && $dbconfig['db_name']!='_DBC_NAME_') > > Bad. The keywords are supposed to be replaced by the installer by search and replace. > $db_name = $dbconfig['db_name']; > else >- $db_name = 'vtigercrm'; >+ $db_name = 'vtigercrm4_2_4'; > > Bad. I see no reason to have the version in the database name. > > !isset($_REQUEST['db_drop_tables']) ? $db_drop_tables = "0" : $db_drop_tables = $_REQUEST['db_drop_tables']; > >@@ -143,7 +143,7 @@ > !isset($_REQUEST['db_username']) ? $db_username = $mysql_username : $db_username = $_REQUEST['db_username']; > !isset($_REQUEST['db_password']) ? $db_password= $mysql_password : $db_password = $_REQUEST['db_password']; > */ >- !isset($_REQUEST['db_name']) ? $db_name = "vtigercrm" : $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; >+ !isset($_REQUEST['db_name']) ? $db_name = "vtigercrm4_2_4" : $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; > > Bad. I see no reason to have the version in the database name. From larenas at internext.com.mx Tue Mar 7 06:36:00 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:36:00 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4057 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: config.template.php install/2setConfig.php In-Reply-To: <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> References: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <440D7020.8060308@internext.com.mx> Hi, somebody can help me, I dont know how register a deliver, i just can register accounts, customers, etc. From jamieinnh at gmail.com Tue Mar 7 16:18:04 2006 From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:18:04 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <994473020603071318h574b9df2g6ff89ece94324e02@mail.gmail.com> Here is an example in real life how a scroll bar within a browser, and how it distracts from the UI of the article. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11485858/ Something like this are things we should avoid when thinking about the UI in vTiger Jamie On 3/6/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the > >whole page. > > > Good. The less printing the better. ;) > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Le Mercredi 8 Mars 2006 16:37, vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com a ?crit : > Author: saraj > Date: Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 2006 > New Revision: 4079 > > Log: > changes made to point to install.php after installation > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php > =========================================================================== >=== --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 2006 > @@ -356,7 +356,7 @@ > } > > require_once('config.inc.php'); > -if (!isset($dbconfig['db_hostname'])) { > +if (!isset($dbconfig['db_hostname']) || > $dbconfig['db_status']=='_DB_STAT_') { header("Location: install.php"); > exit(); > } > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php > =========================================================================== >=== --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php (original) +++ > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 > 2006 @@ -158,6 +158,7 @@ > $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_SERVER_", $mail_server, $buffer); > $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_USERNAME_", $mail_server_username, > $buffer); $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_PASSWORD_", $mail_server_password, > $buffer); + $buffer = str_replace( "_DB_STAT_", "true", $buffer); > > fwrite($includeHandle, $buffer); > } > > > _______________________________________________ > vtigercrm-commits mailing list > vtigercrm-commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > http://lists.vtigercrm.com/mailman/listinfo/vtigercrm-commits From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 8 12:47:33 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:47:33 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please add me to your developer list In-Reply-To: <200603081506.k28F627L016309@vtigerforge.com> References: <200603081506.k28F627L016309@vtigerforge.com> Message-ID: <440F18B5.1040700@mikefedyk.com> You need to go to http://lists.vtigercrm.com to subscribe to the list. We can't do it for you. Information Team wrote: >Please add me to your developer list > >Many thanks > >Gary Mitchell > > > > >Phone: +44 (0) 870 490 1261 >Fax: +44 (0)871 661 7137 >Email: info at everydaysolutions.co.uk >Web: www.everydaysolutions.co.uk > >The information contained in this document is privileged information and is >intended for the personal and confidential use of the addressee only. If you >are not the intended recipient, any review, distribution or copying of this >document is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately and >delete the document from all computer systems. All title copyrights and >intellectual property rights in and attached to this email their content and >any copies thereof are owned by Everyday Solutions. All rights not >expressly granted are reserved by Everyday Solutions. > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From larenas at internext.com.mx Wed Mar 8 07:57:10 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:57:10 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME Message-ID: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers nothing. Help please. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 8 15:29:04 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:29:04 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> References: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <440F3E90.2080000@mikefedyk.com> Does this patch fix the problem? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers >nothing. > >Help please. >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From philip at vtiger.com Wed Mar 8 13:18:51 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:18:51 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Updated rc2 version - installation issues fixed Message-ID: <109db152c88.-8674574812899896242.64192681946233716@@vtiger.com> Hi Developers, The updated versions of exe and bin for vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 is available in the following location, installation fixes has been incorporated in the updated builds http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.bin http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.exe Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just call "php install.php" to do the database population and you're done. I also told Philip to copy config.template.php to config.inc.php thinking he was going to replace all keywords during the exe/bin installation so as soon as the exe/bin installer is finished,you can login to vtiger. But if you want to have the config.template.php file changed instead that's fine. -------------------------- final words, if you use source installer to finish installation, you can use the method "patch template". If you bypass source installer, i agree with mike, you can copy template to inc and do your add-in on it. 2 differents solutions to same problem. i'm for the solution where you do all installation stuff in installer without using source installer in "3rd party" package (i mean not source installer). cheers, Fathi From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Wed Mar 8 18:50:25 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 23:50:25 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Removing crmentity Message-ID: <86f04e340603081550j7072ebf1t8ca904480dc5a526@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, To delete one crmentity in vtiger php pages, it is "update crmentity set deleted = 1 where...", marking it as deleted (mark_deleted method) and all relationships: recurringevent, activity_reminder, ... are "delete from ...". (Delete.php in each module) But in vtigerolservice.php (vtiger5) the activities are only marked as deleted!... How about relationships ? My question is: why this kind of operations aren't centralized in entity class ? Create, Retrieve, Update, Delete... Best Regards, Juao -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060308/276a7f5c/attachment-0002.html From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 9 07:18:27 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:18:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 Message-ID: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> Hi, Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Our feedback aren't listened ... just an example : database name versioning Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. we change/ you change game isn't funny ... best regards, Fathi From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 09:46:58 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:46:58 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 In-Reply-To: <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> References: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> Don't worry about it fathi. The binary installers never worked for shit before, and why should that change? There is a reason why I have recommended to everyone to use XAMPP 1.4.15 in the forums. Once we replace binary the installers this problem will be solved. Mike Fathi Boudra wrote: >>Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. >> >> > >Our feedback aren't listened ... >just an example : database name versioning > >Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. > >we change/ you change game isn't funny ... > >best regards, > >Fathi >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From andre at dreamlab.net Thu Mar 9 10:10:49 2006 From: andre at dreamlab.net (Andre Roth) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:10:49 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP Message-ID: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? Where can I find documentation about this ? Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on line 530 Thanks for your help Andr? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 12:19:23 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:19:23 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 In-Reply-To: <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> References: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <4410639B.1000105@mikefedyk.com> Hi everyone, Richie and I have discussed this issue, and agreed to spread this out over 4.2.4 and 4.2.5. A lot has been changed in the binary installers in a short time (including the build system to SVN) so I'm willing to accept it the way it is for the 4.2.4 release as long as everything works on all sides. That includes, the source installer, ubuntu/debian installer and linux/windows bin/exe installer. I think that is possible with the changes that have been made so far. Correct me if that isn't the case. After that we can spend the next ~4 weeks getting it ready for the 4.2.5 release. I hope we can all agree on this. I'm planning on making an 4.2.4rc3 release in the next few days with any installer fixes that are required, so any help in testing the installers for these previous states during install would be much appreciated. case1: no previous installation of mysql or apache. case2: no previous installation of mysql but apache is already installed. case3: previous installation of mysql but apache is not installed. case4: both apache and mysql already installed. Mike Mike Fedyk wrote: >Don't worry about it fathi. The binary installers never worked for shit >before, and why should that change? There is a reason why I have >recommended to everyone to use XAMPP 1.4.15 in the forums. Once we >replace binary the installers this problem will be solved. > >Mike > >Fathi Boudra wrote: > > > >>>Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Our feedback aren't listened ... >>just an example : database name versioning >> >>Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. >> >>we change/ you change game isn't funny ... >> >>best regards, >> >>Fathi >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From andre.roth at dreamlab.net Thu Mar 9 10:08:11 2006 From: andre.roth at dreamlab.net (Andre Roth) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:08:11 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP Message-ID: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? Where can I find documentation about this ? Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on line 530 Thanks for your help Andr? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060309/0d675a9a/attachment-0002.bin From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 9 12:36:59 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:36:59 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 Message-ID: <109e015334f.-3220625800868453815.-2820986651640595013@@vtiger.com> Hi, I thought i have discussed about the feedback over the chat. Please see my reply below. Regarding Installation using bin or exe the database and apacheparameters are populated in the config.inc.php, the config.template.phpfile is not disturbed at any time. Copying config.template.php toconfig.inc.php and replacing all keywords during the exe/bininstallation has been handled. Other feedbacks which includes changing the hardcorded db values, andthe versioning were not taken up in this version as we are not sureabout the consequence and the impacts in changing the existing setup,but can be taken up with 4.2.5 after having a series of testing. Regards, Philip >Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. Our feedback aren't listened ... just an example : database name versioning Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. we change/ you change game isn't funny ... best regards, Fathi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060309/2cda1fcb/attachment-0002.html From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 07:15:33 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:15:33 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME PLEASE Message-ID: <44101C65.3020403@internext.com.mx> I had ploblems with quotes module, but i resolve it changing save.php file, but when i do it some other problems appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *445* From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 14:48:06 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:48:06 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME PLEASE In-Reply-To: <44101C65.3020403@internext.com.mx> References: <44101C65.3020403@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <44108676.3010609@mikefedyk.com> What changes did you make (post the section of code you changed or make a diff with winmerge)? Did you try the changes I referenced to in your other post? Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >I had ploblems with quotes module, but i resolve it changing save.php >file, but when i do it some other problems appears: > >*Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in >*/var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *445* >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 10:54:36 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:54:36 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module Message-ID: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> well, i try to say you what's my problem 1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. 2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you help me? * From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 18:02:41 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:02:41 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module In-Reply-To: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> References: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4410B411.3010100@mikefedyk.com> Sorry, I can't help you until you post the changes you made. Did you try the patch I pointed out to you? Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >well, i try to say you what's my problem > >1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it >not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. > >2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message >appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in >*/var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 > >i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you >help me? >* >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 11:30:23 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:30:23 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] More Information for my problem Message-ID: <4410581F.7040006@internext.com.mx> The error that happen is in the next function: **********************Function in data/PearDatabase.php********************** function query_result(&$result, $row, $col=0) { //$this->println("ADODB query_result r=".$row." c=".$col); not exist-------> $result->Move($row); $rowdata = $this->change_key_case($result->FetchRow()); //$this->println($rowdata); $coldata = $rowdata[$col]; //$this->println("ADODB query_result ". $coldata); return $coldata; } From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 11:47:51 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:47:51 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I send you the image of my problem Message-ID: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> Please see the image and help me -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: error.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 144307 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060309/1eb55079/attachment-0002.jpe From dan.means at teamsrs.com Thu Mar 9 19:34:04 2006 From: dan.means at teamsrs.com (Dan Means) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:34:04 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module In-Reply-To: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> References: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4410C97C.1000704@teamsrs.com> Your problem is most likely in your changes to the save.php module -- you need to post your mods. Most likely, you've got a problem in the sql syntax in the save.php module. I had to make some changes in the "savesalesorder" version. If you added a new field/column, you have to fix your insert to explicitly create the values for each column name & values. Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > well, i try to say you what's my problem > > 1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it > not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. > > 2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message > appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in > */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 > > i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you > help me? > * > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > -- Dan Means Mission Viejo, CA www.dkmeansonline.com www.teamsrs.com From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 19:34:29 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:34:29 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP In-Reply-To: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4410C995.90109@mikefedyk.com> I don't think that is a very popular mod you're trying. Can you post the changes you have done and your environment like PHP, MySQL version, etc. Mike Andre Roth wrote: >Hello, > >I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. > >Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? >Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? >Where can I find documentation about this ? >Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? > >I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: > >Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object >in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on >line 530 > > >Thanks for your help > > Andr? > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From libregeek at gmail.com Fri Mar 10 00:52:51 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:22:51 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP In-Reply-To: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <2315046d0603092152y4e25f7ccv@mail.gmail.com> On 09/03/06, Andre Roth wrote: > > Hello, > > I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. > > Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? > Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? > Where can I find documentation about this ? > Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I followed the steps given below and it's working fine. http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=1689 regards Manilal From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Fri Mar 10 02:52:54 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:52:54 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I send you the image of my problem In-Reply-To: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> References: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <1141977175.5698.8.camel@linux.site> Just my 2 cents, this list is called vtigercrm-developpers. For free support you have vtiger forum. For enterprise class support you can contact vtiger. For Quotes, this is a tips, you can't create Quotes before having created a potential, no need to change save.php. May be your problem is more complex than explain, use the forum, you can have more answer. Thanks, Aissa Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 ? 17:47 +0100, Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas a ?crit : > Please see the image and help me > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From richie at vtiger.com Fri Mar 10 04:59:56 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:59:56 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Need volunteers for integrating 4.2.4 onwards fixes into 5.0 Message-ID: <109e3991dc8.5278160118441625590.4984050560728575825@@vtiger.com> Hello! I need help in porting the fixes from 4.2.4 onwards to 5.0. Those interested please let me know. To integrate the fixes means to peruse through all the changesets and pickup those that are required. This will basically mean that we have to go through n number of changesets. I am willing to listen to any smart ways to go ahead with this process. Please pitch in for help. Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060310/006a131a/attachment-0002.html From mickie at vtiger.com Fri Mar 10 05:57:19 2006 From: mickie at vtiger.com (Mickie) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:57:19 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger Message-ID: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> Dear Team, I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 Migration with your help. so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration(Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 youcan see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so thiswill need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know ifyou have any other ideas to do this migration. In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to testthe migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2and for the new migration script). Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. Thanks & Regards Mickie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mickie wrote: > Dear Team, > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > Migration with your help. > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sat Mar 11 12:32:57 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:32:57 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Is somebody working on Image Graph? I have started some writing on Graph.php basis, here is a first result : It doesn't seem so much difficult to migrate, but documentation is very poor. So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be useful. TIA Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060311/984c3867/attachment-0002.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be > useful. > > TIA > > Michel > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sat Mar 11 23:27:28 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:27:28 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <44134378.7070000@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Yes I do. There will be probably some minor changes in graph appearance but it can be done. What I have done on leads by sales stage graph does not require to change algorithm so it can be fast. Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk > Envoy??: samedi 11 mars 2006 22:39 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph > > This is great Michel! > > Do you think this can be done for all graphs in vtiger in the next few > weeks? If so we may be able to get this into 4.2.5. > > Mike > > Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > > > Is somebody working on Image Graph? > > > > I have started some writing on Graph.php basis, here is a first result : > > > > It doesn?t seem so much difficult to migrate, but documentation is > > very poor. So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be > > useful. > > > > TIA > > > > Michel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 13 01:27:13 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:27:13 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph Message-ID: Hi all, I think that result is not so bad on pipeline by sales stage, so . You cannot see it on the picture but targets and alts are working. Remaining 2 minor problems for which I have not been able to find a solution : The ticks on category axis cannot be placed correctly Not able to avoid grid lines to be foreground I will document the code as soon I release the replacing Charts.php. Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/da6a166e/attachment-0002.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Anand From wildfire at progsoc.org Sun Mar 12 20:49:05 2006 From: wildfire at progsoc.org (Anand Kumria) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:49:05 +1100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] list not moderated References: <40110.3757824332$1141024115@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:08:05 -0800, Richie wrote: > Dear Team, > > The mailing list is not moderated anymore. > The moderation was removed quite a long time ago. Well the mailing list certainly claims to be at the moment. Anand From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 04:02:25 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:02:25 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] list not moderated In-Reply-To: References: <40110.3757824332$1141024115@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: <44153521.7030801@mikefedyk.com> Anand Kumria wrote: >On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:08:05 -0800, Richie wrote: > > > >>Dear Team, >> >>The mailing list is not moderated anymore. >>The moderation was removed quite a long time ago. >> >> > >Well the mailing list certainly claims to be at the moment. > > There is a list of people who can post unmoderated. Everyone else is moderated. Be good and you'll be added to the unmoderated list. ;) From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 13 04:20:16 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:20:16 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] repository location? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603131020.17105.fboudra@free.fr> > Hi, hi > According to and > subsequently , the > repository is available via Sourceforge CVS. > > Indeed, looking through the Sourceforge CVS browser you can see changes > made ~11 days ago for the 5.0 Alpha 2 release. > However according to various posts on this mailing list, information on > the repository is available from > . > Which one is correct? I'd certainly appreciate it if someone could fixup > the initial links if they are incorrect. Are they seperate trees? If so, > what is the relationship between them? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage is the correct one. cheers, Fathi From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 04:06:52 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:06:52 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] repository location? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4415362C.8010502@mikefedyk.com> We switched to SVN a few weeks ago. Use that. We're waiting for the vtiger core team to make some changes to the backend of vtiger.com before the wiki can be cleaned up. Anand Kumria wrote: >Hi, > >According to and >subsequently , the >repository is available via Sourceforge CVS. > >Indeed, looking through the Sourceforge CVS browser you can see changes >made ~11 days ago for the 5.0 Alpha 2 release. > >However according to various posts on this mailing list, information on >the repository is available from >. > >Which one is correct? I'd certainly appreciate it if someone could fixup >the initial links if they are incorrect. Are they seperate trees? If so, >what is the relationship between them? > >Thanks, >Anand > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 13 04:31:29 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:31:29 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Le Lundi 13 Mars 2006 07:27, Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit : > Hi all, hi michel > I think that result is not so bad on pipeline by sales stage, so . > You cannot see it on the picture but targets and alts are working. > Remaining 2 minor problems for which I have not been able to find a > solution > The ticks on category axis cannot be placed correctly > Not able to avoid grid lines to be foreground > I will document the code as soon I release the replacing Charts.php. i don't know if that can help you, this project use image_graph, and can be a source example : http://secureideas.sourceforge.net cheers, Fathi From mickie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 13 04:41:24 2006 From: mickie at vtiger.com (Mickie) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:41:24 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger In-Reply-To: <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> References: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <109f2fb3d66.-339647440922358887.-7786347594590860361@@vtiger.com> Hi Mike, Thanks for your suggestions. i agree. This sugar migration script should go into vtigerforge or cvs. we will checkin these files ASAP. Regarding the integration with import functions, as of now we canimport any other systems data through import option if that data is inCSV file. Generalizing the migration process means whether we want make thismigration script as general to all systems? how is this possible? Please excuse me if i am wrong and let me know some more informations. Thanks & Regards Mickie ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ---- Hi Mickie, I think this should either go into the vtigerforge or in the main source base. Maybe we should integrate this with the import functions. That would help with generalizing the migration process and allow migration from other systems than sugar also. Mickie wrote: > Dear Team, > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > Migration with your help. > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/787d9465/attachment-0002.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 05:00:46 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:00:46 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger In-Reply-To: <109f2fb3d66.-339647440922358887.-7786347594590860361@@vtiger.com> References: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> <109f2fb3d66.-339647440922358887.-7786347594590860361@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <441542CE.7000900@mikefedyk.com> How do you import notes from csv? Mickie wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Thanks for your suggestions. > i agree. This sugar migration script should go into vtigerforge or > cvs. we will checkin these files ASAP. > > Regarding the integration with import functions, as of now we can > import any other systems data through import option if that data is in > CSV file. > Generalizing the migration process means whether we want make this > migration script as general to all systems? how is this possible? > Please excuse me if i am wrong and let me know some more informations. > > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > > > > ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ---- > > Hi Mickie, > > I think this should either go into the vtigerforge or in the main source > base. > > Maybe we should integrate this with the import functions. That would > help with generalizing the migration process and allow migration from > other systems than sugar also. > > Mickie wrote: > > > Dear Team, > > > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > > Migration with your help. > > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > > Thanks & Regards > > Mickie > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com Mon Mar 13 08:18:08 2006 From: mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com (Mike Crowe) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:18:08 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? Message-ID: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> Hi folks, I had finally had it, so I used phpCodeBeautifier to reformat all of the source in 4.2.4 and I'm very pleased. (http://www.waterproof.fr/products/phpCodeBeautifier/). However, as imagined, diff's are now screwed up, mainly because of 1 issue: I like: if ( blah, blah ) { /// } I can only get phpCB to do: if ( blah, blah ) { //// } I've attached main index.php for you to see. Are you interested in applying to trunk? Cheers! Mike Yahoo: mikecrowe MSNM: mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com Gmail: drmikecrowe at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Are you interested in > applying to trunk? seconded, not perfect but do a great job. we can probably change slightly formating rules to do add extra space after else statement ? : }elseif ( }else{ and if it's ok for all, update : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/CodingStyle according to phpcodebeautifier. From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 13 10:25:07 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:25:07 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi Fathi, Thanks a lot, I will have a look on it but I think that I have got some knowledge on Image Graph ans that I am going faster enough (here is the second one) : Half of the way done! Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra > Envoy? : lundi 13 mars 2006 10:31 > ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph > > hi michel > > i don't know if that can help you, this project use image_graph, and can > be a > source example : http://secureideas.sourceforge.net > > cheers, > > Fathi > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please feel free to pitch in your views. a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two different beasts. Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. To briefly mention our status over here :- We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we write, I will be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to integrate the required UIs esp that of the Security module. Kindly put forward your views so that together, we can make vtiger crm a better product, a better experience. Thank You, Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Additionally, there's the pain point of ensuring the PostgreSQL fixes don't break the existing MySQL support. If you have any recommendations around how you would like this to play out, please let me know. I have some time coming up where I could assist. Mike, let us know what you're thoughts are and we can proceed from there. Ideally, I think we should make the changes in one fell-swoop so that they're pulled into the mainline branch right away. Is there a window of 3 days, say 2 weeks from now, where we could do this? Regards, - Joel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those relationships from database. IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some other issues came up...). Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other modules are affected too... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Does this patch fix the problem? > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 > > Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > > >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > > > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers > >nothing. > > > >Help please. > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice > there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 > of the following issues: > > * Undeclared variables > * Include headers reference files that don't exist > * Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > > Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean > this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a > profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance > out of it. > > Regards, > > - Joel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/877b0e22/attachment-0004.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 15:27:14 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:27:14 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415D5A2.3020407@mikefedyk.com> As soon as 4.2.4 releases, there will be a branch created for postgres support. 4.2.5 will move along, (I'm planning on one release per month) and the parts ready in the postgres branch will be merged. This avoids hurrying the postgres support and doesn't delay 4.2.5 if things don't go as planned. Mike Joel Rydbeck wrote: >Mike / Allan / Jeff, > >My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > >1. Allan has some major changes that will probably need to be checked in (last I saw was a delta for the 4.2.4 release). >2. I'd like to go through and make sure everything else is working. There are some nuances like quotation marks, and odd-spacing that break the SQL standard and thus PostgreSQL. >3. Jeff may be on-board for testing the PG side, but I haven't spoken with him for awhile. >4. Additionally, there's the pain point of ensuring the PostgreSQL fixes don't break the existing MySQL support. If you have any recommendations around how you would like this to play out, please let me know. I have some time coming up where I could assist. > >Mike, let us know what you're thoughts are and we can proceed from there. Ideally, I think we should make the changes in one fell-swoop so that they're pulled into the mainline branch right away. Is there a window of 3 days, say 2 weeks from now, where we could do this? > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 15:34:15 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:34:15 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when we're not preparing for a release.. Mike Joel Rydbeck wrote: >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 of the following issues: > >* Undeclared variables >* Include headers reference files that don't exist >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance out of it. > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 16:16:54 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:16:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> Someone on the forums addressed a bunch of the notice errors (sorry I don't recall who). I think most of the changes made it into 4.2.2 but I could be mistaken. Surprisingly (to me at least) cleaning up the notice errors offered a substantial speed increase. On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php > is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is > to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. > > I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when > we're not preparing for a release.. > > Mike > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 of the following issues: > > > >* Undeclared variables > >* Include headers reference files that don't exist > >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > > > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance out of it. > > > >Regards, > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From arodes at onweald.com Mon Mar 13 16:17:57 2006 From: arodes at onweald.com (Andrew Rodes) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:17:57 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603131149m50f51515oa6097d05f993a020@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> Try the patch with http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/51 I basically implemented the solution recommended a few weeks ago and submitted the patch with tic #51. I noticed that it appears this patch has not been rolled into the working branch at http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2/, but im not totally sure where the current release candidate code is. anyway .. try this patch and let us know what you found. In my testing, Quotes appeared to start working. during my testing with that patch. Also, I submitted bug 48, which I think may have a similar root cause as 51, but i have not had time to implement a fix. Andy Rodes Onweald _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Joao Oliveira Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:50 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME Hello, I've doing some tests today in vtiger, and quotes still doesn't work. The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those relationships from database. IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some other issues came up...). Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other modules are affected too... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: Does this patch fix the problem? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers >nothing. > >Help please. >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/33b07741/attachment-0002.html From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 16:25:02 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:25:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? In-Reply-To: <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> I'd love to see the code reformatted. I agree with phpCB though it should be: if ( blah, blah ) { //// } ;p Anything that's consistent would be great though. The problem of course is you kind of mess up the repository checking in a bunch of changes like that. If it was done first thing after the 4.2.4 release it shouldn't effect anyone working off of SVN too badly but it would make patches created by users using the release more difficult to integrate. On 3/13/06, Fathi Boudra wrote: > > I've attached main index.php for you to see. Are you interested in > > applying to trunk? > > seconded, not perfect but do a great job. > > we can probably change slightly formating rules to do add extra space after > else statement ? : > }elseif ( > }else{ > > and if it's ok for all, update : > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/CodingStyle > > according to phpcodebeautifier. > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 16:39:41 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:39:41 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86f04e340603131339t4928ae36o2f034d2b0d48e4e@mail.gmail.com> i think it was Terry (aka tigerincanada) in this topic http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3529 On 3/13/06, Allan Bush wrote: > > Someone on the forums addressed a bunch of the notice errors (sorry I > don't recall who). I think most of the changes made it into 4.2.2 but > I could be mistaken. Surprisingly (to me at least) cleaning up the > notice errors offered a substantial speed increase. > > On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php > > is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is > > to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. > > > > I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when > > we're not preparing for a release.. > > > > Mike > > > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > > > >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately > --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, > I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc > results in 5-20 of the following issues: > > > > > >* Undeclared variables > > >* Include headers reference files that don't exist > > >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe > items > > > > > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean > this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a > profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance > out of it. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/067b256c/attachment-0004.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 16:57:36 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:57:36 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4415EAD0.3050709@mikefedyk.com> Allan Bush wrote: >I'd love to see the code reformatted. I agree with phpCB though it should be: > >if ( blah, blah ) { > //// >} > > >;p > > I like that formatting also, as long as it is with *tabs not spaces*. >Anything that's consistent would be great though. The problem of >course is you kind of mess up the repository checking in a bunch of >changes like that. If it was done first thing after the 4.2.4 release >it shouldn't effect anyone working off of SVN too badly but it would >make patches created by users using the release more difficult to >integrate. > I'd be willing to take formatting fixes on a per-file basis as long as the actual patch that does the reformatting doesn't included any non-formatting changes. I think reformatting the entire source tree would be a bad step at this point. But if you are making changes in a certain area, submit a formatting fix patch for that area and I'll take it. Mike From larenas at internext.com.mx Mon Mar 13 10:23:11 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:23:11 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! Message-ID: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> I can't create a sales order from quote registry, if i try create sale order in quotes view, i can view the order created but i can't save it. My version of vtiger: *Version: * 4.2 GA Mysql : 4.1 PHP: 4 APACHE: 2 an other question can you say me the url for csv stage 2? Thanks. From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 17:27:34 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:27:34 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> References: <86f04e340603131149m50f51515oa6097d05f993a020@mail.gmail.com> <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> Message-ID: <86f04e340603131427y48e20b48w6f941e633f6330e5@mail.gmail.com> Hello Andrew, With that patch I've successfully insert one quote in database. Thus, when i go to Quotes ListView php came up with the following error: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in * c:\inetpub\wwwroot\vtiger42\include\database\PearDatabase.php* on line *440 *The error happens in line 3146 of include/utils.php: ---- elseif($module == 'Quotes' && $name == 'Potential Name') { $potential_id = $adb->query_result($list_result,$i-1,"potentialid"); $potential_name = getPotentialName($potential_id); $value = ''.$potential_name.''; } ---- When vtiger try to call getPotentialName() and potentialid passed is null. This kind of troubles start to came up when we pass from '' to null... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira. On 3/13/06, Andrew Rodes wrote: > > Try the patch with http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/51 > > I basically implemented the solution recommended a few weeks ago and > submitted the patch with tic #51. I noticed that it appears this patch has > not been rolled into the working branch at > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2/, but im not > totally sure where the current release candidate code is. > > anyway .. try this patch and let us know what you found. In my testing, > Quotes appeared to start working. during my testing with that patch. > Also, I submitted bug 48, which I think may have a similar root cause as > 51, but i have not had time to implement a fix. > > > Andy Rodes > Onweald > > ------------------------------ > *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto: > vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *On Behalf Of *Joao > Oliveira > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2006 1:50 PM > *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME > > Hello, > > I've doing some tests today in vtiger, and quotes still doesn't work. > > The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: > > insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, > team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, > adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) > values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', > 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') > > when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the > generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. > > It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those > relationships from database. > IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to > insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some > other issues came up...). > > Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other > modules are affected too... > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira > > On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > > Does this patch fix the problem? > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 > > > > Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > > > > >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > > > > > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers > > >nothing. > > > > > >Help please. > > >_______________________________________________ > > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/e42168f8/attachment-0002.html From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 17:50:46 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:50:46 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: Joel Rydbeck wrote: > Mike / Allan / Jeff, > > My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > would work best from a timeline for making the changes? The original idea was to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production instance on mysql. I propose the following: - Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough assent, IMO. - I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. - As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. Thoughts? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 18:00:37 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:00:37 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! In-Reply-To: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> References: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4415F995.3050906@mikefedyk.com> I suggest you look at the name of this list. You have been referred to patches that will help solve the bug you are encountering. This is the area for competent developers. We will point you in the right direction but not do the work for free. If you can't apply a patch, then I suggest you contact one of us privately for paid support and/or hosting. Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >I can't create a sales order from quote registry, if i try create sale >order in quotes view, i can view the order created but i can't save it. > >My version of vtiger: *Version: * 4.2 GA >Mysql : 4.1 >PHP: 4 >APACHE: 2 > >an other question can you say me the url for csv stage 2? > >Thanks. > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 18:04:34 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:04:34 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415FA82.50108@mikefedyk.com> I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. Mike Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >> >>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >> >> > >The original idea was to keep >vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it >could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >instance on mysql. > >I propose the following: > >- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >assent, IMO. > >- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in >sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity >of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity >on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. > >- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap >into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >Thoughts? > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 18:01:49 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:01:49 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> <4415EAD0.3050709@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > I think reformatting the entire source tree would be a bad step at this > point. Several subversion books have concurred that wholesale code beautification is a problem for concurrent developers, and historical diff viewing. The checkin is cake for the beautifier, but the next update/merge is hell for everyone with modified checkouts planning checkins of their own. The only way to mitigate is to announce a code freeze on a certain section of the repository, and ask that everyone clear out their working copies of queued commits. It should also happen at a low point of commit activity. I think our best opportunity would be to beautify *both* vtigercrm/trunk and vtigercrm/branches/4.2 right before the forward-port of 4.2 fixes to the trunk (testing to see that nothing has broken on either, of course). > I'd be willing to take formatting fixes on a per-file basis as long as > the actual patch that does the reformatting doesn't included any > non-formatting changes. Yes, per-file is probably the biggest whitespace cleanup chunk you can expect to be practical on any given commit, unless there is an agreed-upon repository freeze. P.S. It would be wise to do any code beautification only on vtigercrm modules proper, not any contained snapshot of third party code. From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com Mon Mar 13 18:49:39 2006 From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:49:39 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 Message-ID: Jeff / Mike / Allan, Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on this one. Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose ends. I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? Regards, - Joel -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fedyk Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. Mike Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >> >>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >> >> > >The original idea was to keep >vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it >could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >instance on mysql. > >I propose the following: > >- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >assent, IMO. > >- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in >sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity >of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity >on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. > >- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap >into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >Thoughts? > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 18:56:40 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:56:40 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> I'll help. :) One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines for better maintainability. Comments? Joel Rydbeck wrote: >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on >this one. > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose >ends. > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of >Mike Fedyk >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > >I like it. > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > >Mike > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >>> >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>The original idea was to keep >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that >> >> >it > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. >> >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >>instance on mysql. >> >>I propose the following: >> >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >>assent, IMO. >> >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration >> >> >in > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the >> >> >purity > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change >> >> >velocity > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX >> >> >status. > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can >> >> >bootstrap > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. >> >>Thoughts? >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> >> >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 19:00:16 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:00:16 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! In-Reply-To: <44159FD6.7090706@internext.com.mx> References: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> <4415F995.3050906@mikefedyk.com> <4415990B.2030000@internext.com.mx> <441600C2.2000603@mikefedyk.com> <44159FD6.7090706@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <44160790.10608@mikefedyk.com> Great! I'll add this to my list of patches to review. Mike Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > Well, if some body have problem with save sales orders trough qoute > module, i solve it do it: > > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > // New Lines HERE > if(empty($value)) > { > $value = 'null'; > } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 22:26:54 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:26:54 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415FA82.50108@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. The branch vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration is open for committers to integrate their postgresql support code. Please file tickets for as many identifiable postgresql issues as possible, we want to make it possible for the vtigercrm team to track this work on vtigercrm/trunk. I will merge any changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 into this branch, to keep the diff as small as possible and speed the eventual merge back to vtigercrm/branches/4.2. From allan.bush at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 20:31:51 2006 From: allan.bush at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:31:51 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> Yeah breaking the queries up into multiple lines would be a huge help when dealing with diff files and it improves readability (maybe we should come up with a query formatting guide to standardize when to break a line and how much to indent the next line) . I'm really busy today and maybe tomorrow but I can merge in a bunch of changes after that. On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > I'll help. :) > > One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no > more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines > for better maintainability. > > Comments? > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > > > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on > >this one. > > > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of > >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > > > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose > >ends. > > > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with > >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > > > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have > >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > > > >Regards, > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of > >Mike Fedyk > >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM > >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > > > >I like it. > > > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > > > >Mike > > > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > > > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, > >>> > >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>The original idea was to keep > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that > >> > >> > >it > > > > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into > >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >> > >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug > >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to > >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production > >>instance on mysql. > >> > >>I propose the following: > >> > >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start > >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough > >>assent, IMO. > >> > >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration > >> > >> > >in > > > > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to > >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the > >> > >> > >purity > > > > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by > >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change > >> > >> > >velocity > > > > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX > >> > >> > >status. > > > > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can > >> > >> > >bootstrap > > > > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I > >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its > >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into > >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >> > >>Thoughts? > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > >> > >> > >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Tue Mar 14 06:21:12 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:21:12 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi Mike, This is almost the best I can do for Pipeline by lead source with Image Graph : It is because Image Graph has no feature for 3D Pie. On the other hand, I consider that 3D pie is not an accurate graphic because each value is represented by an area and 3D perception is wrong. I had also to develop a color_generator function which generates an array of colours based on an algorithm. It is because theme feature is not supported by Image Graph. It could be a good idea to implement this kind of function in themes, each theme having its own colours. Michel PS: I think I will release a first version of Charts.php soon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/6b57b51c/attachment-0004.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 12516 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/6b57b51c/attachment-0002.jpg From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 14 06:29:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:29:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 5.0 beta lockdown? In-Reply-To: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> References: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> Richie wrote: > Hello! > > We plan to release the Beta by the end of this month. > As I am running short of resources here, I would request some help. > Towards that end, I had a discussion with mmbrich and these are the salient > points that we discussed. Please feel free to pitch in your views. > > a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features That's good. Make sure you keep it up to date and if you make any changes to the lib, submit them upstream. > b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The > Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not > respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. > c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be > merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two > different beasts. This will require a full change in your work flow. Any meetings and communications done in your team will have to be done publicly so that your community deputies will be informed of things as they happen and why they happen. You'll need to make tickets for features, bugs etc. in trac and reference to them on your checkins so that a feature or bug fix that is spread over multiple checkins can be tracked easily. If you have deputies, they should be the only one making changes to their area of control. That means if Joe Bob developer is assigned the helpdesk module, even changes made by the core team should go through the deputy. > Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand > all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. > So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. This is very true. I think the easiest way to get there is to have your first deputies to be from the vtiger core team. Assign the various portions of the 5 source tree between your developers and have them send changes to each other and review each other's work. > > There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. > I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. It's up to you what versions you want to bundle with vtiger. Though using the newest version that works properly is probably the best way to go. So if vtiger 5 works with php5 and mysql5 use those. But if you can bundle php5.1 and vtiger 5 works well with it, then do that. > > To briefly mention our status over here :- > We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we > write, I will > be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that > the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. > As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to > integrate the > required UIs esp that of the Security module. What documentation system are you using? Mike From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 07:23:41 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:23:41 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> I always write queries like this: $query = << wrote: > Yeah breaking the queries up into multiple lines would be a huge help > when dealing with diff files and it improves readability (maybe we > should come up with a query formatting guide to standardize when to > break a line and how much to indent the next line) . > > I'm really busy today and maybe tomorrow but I can merge in a bunch of > changes after that. > > On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > I'll help. :) > > > > One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no > > more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines > > for better maintainability. > > > > Comments? > > > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > > > >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > > > > > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on > > >this one. > > > > > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of > > >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > > > > > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose > > >ends. > > > > > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with > > >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > > > > > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have > > >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > > >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of > > >Mike Fedyk > > >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM > > >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > > >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > > > > > >I like it. > > > > > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > > > > > >Mike > > > > > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, > > >>> > > >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > > >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > > >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>The original idea was to keep > > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that > > >> > > >> > > >it > > > > > > > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into > > >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > > >> > > >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug > > >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to > > >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production > > >>instance on mysql. > > >> > > >>I propose the following: > > >> > > >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from > > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start > > >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough > > >>assent, IMO. > > >> > > >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration > > >> > > >> > > >in > > > > > > > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to > > >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the > > >> > > >> > > >purity > > > > > > > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by > > >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change > > >> > > >> > > >velocity > > > > > > > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX > > >> > > >> > > >status. > > > > > > > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can > > >> > > >> > > >bootstrap > > > > > > > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I > > >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its > > >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into > > >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > > >> > > >>Thoughts? > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ From richie at vtiger.com Tue Mar 14 08:47:54 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:47:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 5.0 beta lockdown? In-Reply-To: <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> References: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <109f9034454.2909176754484923352.5784211372550577327@@vtiger.com> Hi! Thanks for the response. We currently use phpDocs for generating our API documentation. I will take your advice of having individual core members as deputies. We have already done that. Once the Beta is out, we will have a lot of bug-fixes coming in, at that time, it will be better to have some more deputies so that we are able to move faster and in sync. We will make the communication channels more open at that point in time. We intend to bundle php5 with mysql5 as of now. Richie ---- Mike Fedyk<mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote ---- Richie wrote: > Hello! > > We plan to release the Beta by the end of this month. > As I am running short of resources here, I would request some help. > Towards that end, I had a discussion with mmbrich and these are the salient > points that we discussed. Please feel free to pitch in your views. > > a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features That's good. Make sure you keep it up to date and if you make any changes to the lib, submit them upstream. > b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The > Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not > respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. > c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be > merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two > different beasts. This will require a full change in your work flow. Any meetings and communications done in your team will have to be done publicly so that your community deputies will be informed of things as they happen and why they happen. You'll need to make tickets for features, bugs etc. in trac and reference to them on your checkins so that a feature or bug fix that is spread over multiple checkins can be tracked easily. If you have deputies, they should be the only one making changes to their area of control. That means if Joe Bob developer is assigned the helpdesk module, even changes made by the core team should go through the deputy. > Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand > all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. > So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. This is very true. I think the easiest way to get there is to have your first deputies to be from the vtiger core team. Assign the various portions of the 5 source tree between your developers and have them send changes to each other and review each other's work. > > There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. > I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. It's up to you what versions you want to bundle with vtiger. Though using the newest version that works properly is probably the best way to go. So if vtiger 5 works with php5 and mysql5 use those. But if you can bundle php5.1 and vtiger 5 works well with it, then do that. > > To briefly mention our status over here :- > We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we > write, I will > be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that > the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. > As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to > integrate the > required UIs esp that of the Security module. What documentation system are you using? Mike _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/418b9aa9/attachment-0004.html From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 14 09:24:55 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:24:55 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > I always write queries like this: > > $query = << select > * > from > table1, > table2, > where > foo = ? > and > zeta = ? > group by > tita > order by > zeta > END; I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest and most diff-friendly, by far. I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that to the style standard? $query = << Message-ID: <015601c64781$253e7000$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> I would like to suggest one small change to the proposed change. I implemented the change Luis mentions verbatim several weeks ago, but it would insert the literal 'null' into ALL blank fields. I would recommend the following instead which adds a small check to see if the field is likely a foreign key. This is the code I submitted in the patch for quotes (tic 51). It appears Sales Orders has the same basic problem, so the fix should work here as well. > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; >> $match = stristr($fieldname,'id'); // adding this to try and set only foreign keys. we dont want ALL blank values set to null >> if(empty($value) && $match != '0') >> { >> $value = 'null'; >> } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } Andy Rodes arodes at onweald.com -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fedyk Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:00 PM To: Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! Great! I'll add this to my list of patches to review. Mike Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > Well, if some body have problem with save sales orders trough qoute > module, i solve it do it: > > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > // New Lines HERE > if(empty($value)) > { > $value = 'null'; > } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 11:53:36 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:53:36 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> I usually write queries in a slightly more compact format: $query = "SELECT FROM INNER JOIN ON WHERE AND GROUP BY ORDER BY "; The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > I always write queries like this: > > > > $query = << > select > > * > > from > > table1, > > table2, > > where > > foo = ? > > and > > zeta = ? > > group by > > tita > > order by > > zeta > > END; > > I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest > and most diff-friendly, by far. > > I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that > to the style standard? > > $query = << SELECT > * > FROM > table1, > table2, > WHERE > foo = ? > AND > zeta = ? > GROUP BY > tita > ORDER BY > zeta > END; > > +1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. > > Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and > each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin > message > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/563fe117/attachment-0002.html From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com Tue Mar 14 12:46:52 2006 From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:46:52 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Build process References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com><3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com><49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <000101c64788$dfd2b410$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: What would you guys think of putting a build process in place. Nightly would be a bit frequent, but perhaps weekly or monthly. It would open the window for any testers out there to start writing automated tests for the app and put some rigor around our quality. I think in the long term it could help make Mike F's work easier and keep us moving forward more cohesively. If we had a monthly check-in, where all branches were brought together, release or no-release, it would allow for some of this code beautifying we're talking about as well as testing and keeping everything current so that we don't get stagnant branches. Thoughts? - Joel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3966 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/59b8ba27/attachment-0004.bin From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 14 13:59:26 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:59:26 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Build process In-Reply-To: References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com><3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com><49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <000101c64788$dfd2b410$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4417128E.4060307@mikefedyk.com> I like the idea of having a weekly zip/tar.(gz|bz2) but I don't really see the point of a monthly merge since I'm planning on having monthly releases. And I don't see merges becoming automated with SVN, it just doesn't handle that problem space. Mike Joel Rydbeck wrote: >What would you guys think of putting a build process in place. Nightly would be a bit frequent, but perhaps weekly or monthly. It would open the window for any testers out there to start writing automated tests for the app and put some rigor around our quality. I think in the long term it could help make Mike F's work easier and keep us moving forward more cohesively. > >If we had a monthly check-in, where all branches were brought together, release or no-release, it would allow for some of this code beautifying we're talking about as well as testing and keeping everything current so that we don't get stagnant branches. > >Thoughts? > >- Joel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 14 14:09:55 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:09:55 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/3775 This changeset shows the format I typically use. It puts major keywords at the beginning of the line and only uses indenting where it is needed -- typically when the parts related to the keyword are long. $query = "SELECT > FROM > INNER JOIN > ON > WHERE > AND > GROUP BY > ORDER BY "; > >The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely >a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in >one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't >wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. > >On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > >>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >>>I always write queries like this: >>> >>>$query = <<>> select >>> * >>> from >>> table1, >>> table2, >>> where >>> foo = ? >>> and >>> zeta = ? >>> group by >>> tita >>> order by >>> zeta >>>END; >>> >>> >>I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest >>and most diff-friendly, by far. >> >>I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that >>to the style standard? >> >> $query = <<> SELECT >> * >> FROM >> table1, >> table2, >> WHERE >> foo = ? >> AND >> zeta = ? >> GROUP BY >> tita >> ORDER BY >> zeta >> END; >> >>+1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. >> >>Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and >>each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin >>message >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From nolan at peaceworks.ca Tue Mar 14 18:57:43 2006 From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:57:43 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <44175877.70505@peaceworks.ca> My $.02... - YES YES YES to standardizing SQL queries! - capitalized keywords good! This alone makes a big difference! Yes to making this a part of the standard! - I generally do what Allan does, except I put SELECT FROM WHERE GROUP HAVING ORDER all at the same indentation - Indents identical to Allan's for INNER JOIN, ANDs/ORs for logical clauses - ...but so long as it's clear, I'm happy ...so the code beautifier doesn't do SQL? Mike Fedyk wrote: > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/3775 > > This changeset shows the format I typically use. It puts major keywords > at the beginning of the line and only uses indenting where it is needed > -- typically when the parts related to the keyword are long. > > $query = "SELECT >> FROM >> INNER JOIN >> ON >> WHERE >> AND >> GROUP BY >> ORDER BY "; >> >>The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely >>a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in >>one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't >>wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. >> >>On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >> >> >> >>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I always write queries like this: >>>> >>>>$query = <<>>> select >>>> * >>>> from >>>> table1, >>>> table2, >>>> where >>>> foo = ? >>>> and >>>> zeta = ? >>>> group by >>>> tita >>>> order by >>>> zeta >>>>END; >>>> >>>> >>> >>>I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest >>>and most diff-friendly, by far. >>> >>>I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that >>>to the style standard? >>> >>>$query = <<>> SELECT >>> * >>> FROM >>> table1, >>> table2, >>> WHERE >>> foo = ? >>> AND >>> zeta = ? >>> GROUP BY >>> tita >>> ORDER BY >>> zeta >>>END; >>> >>>+1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. >>> >>>Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and >>>each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin >>>message >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Wed Mar 15 11:32:28 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:32:28 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 2006 SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards Nominations Message-ID: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> Vote, vote, vote !!! http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards5.php http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php http://sourceforge.net/awards/cca/ Aissa From larenas at internext.com.mx Wed Mar 15 06:16:31 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:16:31 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] A toda la comunidad Latina que participe en esta lista. Message-ID: <4417F78F.6090103@internext.com.mx> Hola: Los invito a ponerse en conctacto con migo para que discutamos problemas sobre el Vtiger en nuestro idioma. Gracias. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 15 15:44:10 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:44:10 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 2006 SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards Nominations In-Reply-To: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> References: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> Message-ID: <44187C9A.3070707@mikefedyk.com> Abos wrote: >Vote, vote, vote !!! >http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards5.php >http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php >http://sourceforge.net/awards/cca/ > > Voted. Alright Compiere, Java OSS Roc kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 5562 (jre50). OK, that's enough of that. ;) Go vTigerCRM! Or as jeff puts it: go vtigercrm ;) Mike From libregeek at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 03:22:08 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:52:08 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Documents for Vtiger Message-ID: <2315046d0603170022t50d012afp@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, Is there any developer documents for vtiger? I visited http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Vtiger_CRM_-_Developer_Guide , but seems that the document is empty. I wish to develop a module/extension for HR Mangement in vtigercrm. Kindly provide the documents or any resource regarding the above. regards Manilal From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Fri Mar 17 07:13:15 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:13:15 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Image Graph Message-ID: Hi all, Here joined a dashboard generated with image graph. Some details are to be tuned (dynamic ticks interval, bar width, .). I will post the source for Charts.php with some explanation before tonight (French time). Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060317/12a34f42/attachment-0002.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DashboardImageGraph.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 251891 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060317/12a34f42/attachment-0002.jpg From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Fri Mar 17 11:29:42 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:29:42 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Image Graph Message-ID: As announced the files needed to test Vtigercrm-4.2.4.rc2 - Image_Graph implementation. Installation : 1. Install Pear package if it is not already done 2. Install Image_Graph package with all its dependencies : Pear install -a Image_Graph-0.7.2 3. Override Charts.php in your vtigercrm/potentials folder (be sure to have a backup copy) 4. Apply the patches on Dashboard module files to suppress the test on php version. Things to do : 1. Compute the ticks interval according to the maximum axis value. 2. Try to dispose ticks on category axis as they where with jpgraph (if really needed). 3. Implement and beautify the colour generator algorithm (very basic actually). 4. Make it dependent on current theme (if everybody agree). 5. Test font-language implementation (I do not try it for Chinese or Czech). Comments : 1. In Charts.php I have only commented the replaced line. I know it is not "beautiful" (ref. Allan hobby) but it is for others to understand the changes. The lines will have to be suppressed in the official version. 2. If somebody looks at Image Graph examples, he will probably notice that graph layout uses the following syntax : $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title = Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',11)), Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea = Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'), $footer = Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)), 90 ), 5 ) or $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',11)), Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea =& Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'), $footer =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)), 90 ), 5 ) It works nice in a test program called directly but it doesn't in Charts.php. I have not found the explanation. The correct one is : $title =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',10)); $plotarea =& Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'); $footer =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)); $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title, Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea, $footer, 90 ), 5 ) 3. When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!). 4. I have also notice a refresh problem with IE6, due to png file in IE cache. If it is an IE problem I will at last migrate to Firefox (but it is not a solution). The program has been tested with PHP 5.1.2 If some volunteers want to test they are of course welcome. Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060317/68129c2d/attachment-0002.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mike From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sun Mar 19 06:40:09 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:40:09 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Message-ID: The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!). See ticket : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Richie ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved :   3         When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!).   See ticket :   http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65   Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060319/cb10d36c/attachment-0004.html From richie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 02:17:33 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:17:33 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10a16840ad7.3864398727635444731.2037062845435905282@@vtiger.com> PHP5 has a very different array handling behaviour. It passes arrays by reference. So, there will be major impacts in the code. Please do refer to my posts about cloning in the vtiger forums. I would like to have the mysql5 integration properly done before integrating PHP5 into the current vtiger crm5 builds.Once we do have PHP5 integrated, we will start fixing all these issues. ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved :   3         When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!).   See ticket :   http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65   Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060319/4d0049e5/attachment-0002.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 05:29:02 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:29:02 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a16820983.1412508798428817900.-5004035387256997844%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: Hi Richie, Thanks to appreciate what I have done. There is no problem for me to work on version 5, I have already installed twice Alpha 2, one is running on classic install (PHP 4 + MySQL 4), the other one for debugging purpose with PHP 5 and MySQL 5.1. I have fixed installation process but have still a problem to solve with login. I am working on a larger project on CRM which requires integration of a Sync module (with ERP) and a Workflow module, but I think I can also work on charts. I am rather new on PHP (I am more fluent with Delphi and MsSQL) so I use this dev to learn more. Let me know how I can participate, do you have defined the outputs? Regards Michel _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:15 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Hi Michel! We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. I like what you have done. I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing to work on it please? You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working with ImageMaps. Thanks, Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/7181643d/attachment-0004.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 05:33:03 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:33:03 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a16840ad7.3864398727635444731.2037062845435905282%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: I know that and version 4.2.4rc2 is running with zend compatibility mode of PHP4. The problem I discuss here is linked to ADODB qstr function called by PearDatabase : function quote($string){ return ADOConnection::qstr($string); } Qstr function has several calls to $this->function, the use of $this is not allowed outside object context, so you get an error when you call : PearDatabase::quote($string); I changed it to $adb->quote($string); And it seems to work on all the functions I have tested, but I am not sure it is a good practice. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:18 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility PHP5 has a very different array handling behaviour. It passes arrays by reference. So, there will be major impacts in the code. Please do refer to my posts about cloning in the vtiger forums. I would like to have the mysql5 integration properly done before integrating PHP5 into the current vtiger crm5 builds.Once we do have PHP5 integrated, we will start fixing all these issues. ---- Michel JACQUEMES wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!). See ticket : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/4ca43431/attachment-0002.html From werk at r2g.nl Mon Mar 20 08:08:36 2006 From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:08:36 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database Message-ID: Hi All, As newbe user of vtigercrm and starting programmer, I have been reading the forums and mailingslist archive. As vtigercrm grows, we all would like to see an easier structure to maintain, for example of the db. I have implemented vtigercrm on my isp with ssl for my own business ( I run a smal firm for system administrator ) and have done also on a Novell SBS for several of my clients. Looking at the tablestructure of vtigercrm we have 192 tables total! I wonder if prefix tables could be meaningfull, thinking of several possibilities: - If someone wants or must use only one database with several applications, say joomla cms and vtigercrm at an isp. - more seperation of db: on a 'per module' bases - another seperation of db: add-on/plugins with there own prefix - better version control of db, different prefix per version. >From above I suggest: .vti_ as default .vti_a_ for addon .vti_p_ for plugin .vti_{modulename}_ for module or with version control: .vti_424_ .vti_424_a .vti_424_p .vti_424_{modulename}_ It would also eas the use of future migration scripts as migration could be done in several layers. Best Regards, Remco Gerbrands From saint at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 09:29:02 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:59:02 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion Message-ID: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Folks.. Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all your inputs. For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) thanks, Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/bb8a6474/attachment-0004.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 20 10:06:45 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:06:45 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > Author: allanbush > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > New Revision: 4323 > > Log: > Added dummy sequence requests. > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > References ticket:17. > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > else > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, but if > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of tables that need it in the source? From sergiokessler at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 10:14:09 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:14:09 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> References: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> richie, do you (or anyone) have a url for this imageMaps code ? (my google search failed) On 3/20/06, Richie wrote: > Hi Michel! > > We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. > I like what you have done. > > I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing > to work on it please? > > You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working > with ImageMaps. > > Thanks, > Richie > > > > > ---- Michel JACQUEMES wrote ---- > > > > > The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : > > > > 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : > Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in > c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on > line 2380 > I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time > to investigate (help is welcome!). > > > > See ticket : > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 > > > > Michel > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From richie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 10:17:48 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:17:48 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10a183bba27.5706286486276782748.1632333412769303144@@vtiger.com> Hello Michel! Thanks for the response. I would very much like to see the changes that you have done on Alpha2 with the ImageGraphs. I would like you to handle the Dashboards part for vtiger CRM 5. I can give you checkin access to that module and you can make the changes and update the svn repository. We will test from here and get back to you with the results. That way, we can spot any issues early. Let me know if that is okay. ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- Hi Richie,   Thanks to appreciate what I have done.   There is no problem for me to work on version 5, I have already installed twice Alpha 2, one is running on classic install (PHP 4 + MySQL 4), the other one for debugging purpose with PHP 5 and MySQL 5.1. I have fixed installation process but have still a problem to solve with login.   I am working on a larger project on CRM which requires integration of a Sync module (with ERP) and a Workflow module, but I think I can also work on charts. I am rather new on PHP (I am more fluent with Delphi and MsSQL) so I use this dev to learn more.   Let me know how I can participate, do you have defined the outputs?   Regards   Michel   De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:15 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility   Hi Michel! We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. I like what you have done. I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing to work on it please? You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working with ImageMaps. Thanks, Richie _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/419598c5/attachment-0002.html From richie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 10:25:26 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:25:26 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> References: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867@@vtiger.com> My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. Richie ---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ---- richie, do you (or anyone) have a url for this imageMaps code ? (my google search failed) On 3/20/06, Richie <richie at vtiger.com> wrote: > Hi Michel! > > We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. > I like what you have done. > > I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing > to work on it please? > > You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working > with ImageMaps. > > Thanks, > Richie > > > > > ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- > > > > > The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : > > > > 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : > Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in > c:\Inetpub\http://wwwrootvtigercrm-graphadodbadodb.inc.php on > line 2380 > I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time > to investigate (help is welcome!). > > > > See ticket : > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 > > > > Michel > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/df20d2b4/attachment-0004.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 12:43:19 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:43:19 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a183bba27.5706286486276782748.1632333412769303144%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: Hello Richie, I have not worked on Alpha2-Image_Graph but I am going to have a look. I was trying to test Alpha2 with MySql 5 but I have some problems with it. I forgot to mention that Image_Graph is actually a Beta version but it works fine. For the Dashboard, it is Ok for me. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:18 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Hello Michel! Thanks for the response. I would very much like to see the changes that you have done on Alpha2 with the ImageGraphs. I would like you to handle the Dashboards part for vtiger CRM 5. I can give you checkin access to that module and you can make the changes and update the svn repository. We will test from here and get back to you with the results. That way, we can spot any issues early. Let me know if that is okay. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/a5f844de/attachment-0002.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 12:37:06 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:37:06 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: You can find it here : http://pear.php.net/packages.php?catpid=12 &catname=Images Package Image_Canvas is required. You can also find very useful informations at : http://pear.veggerby.dk/ If you want to download it, you have first to install Pear. Follow the doc, it is easy. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:25 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/da38b93f/attachment-0004.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 13:09:18 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:09:18 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, I don't understand the purpose of this. As far as it is installation, it is batch. So if there is a failure, simply drop the schema, create it and run again. Use of transaction during this step is not very important. If it is an upgrade, ask people to backup their base or do it by program. On the other hand, if the target is to implement Mysql 5 or Postgres, they support transactions. In that case I think something like : $db->StartTrans(); ... INSERT INTO $masterTable (id, field1,..) VALUES (DEFAULT,$val1,...) $masterID = $db->Insert_ID(); ... INSERT INTO $dependingTable (...,master_id,..) VALUES (...,$masterID,...) $ok = $db->CompleteTrans(); Is better Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk > Envoy??: lundi 20 mars 2006 16:07 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com; vtigercrm- > commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] > r4323 - > /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.p > hp > > vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > > Author: allanbush > > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > New Revision: 4323 > > > > Log: > > Added dummy sequence requests. > > > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it > during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after > the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in > the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > > > References ticket:17. > > > > Modified: > > > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p > > > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p > > > ========================================================================== > ==== > > --- > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p (original) > > +++ > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > > else > > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, > but if > > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); > Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of > tables that need it in the source? > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 13:51:39 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:51:39 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> References: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603201051l348995cdvf480911f46fb441a@mail.gmail.com> Not that I can see, any string could be used for the sequence it's totally up to the program code. I got this list by grepping trough the source and someone could create another simply by adding the line $id = $adb->getUniqueID("foo"); anywhere which would be pretty hard to detect. I'm open to ideas if someone else has any suggestions. On 3/20/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > > Author: allanbush > > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > New Revision: 4323 > > > > Log: > > Added dummy sequence requests. > > > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > > > References ticket:17. > > > > Modified: > > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > ============================================================================== > > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php (original) > > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > > else > > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, but if > > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); > Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of > tables that need it in the source? > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 15:03:29 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:03:29 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed Message-ID: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. If you want to help you'll need to check the postgres branch code out of SVN: svn co http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration then run through the installation process exactly like you would for a mysql installation. If you have both mysql and pgsql support in your php module then you'll have to select which you wish to use, if not it should be done for you automatically. Make sure to select the correct port for you database host it's probably localhost:5432 for most setups. In the default setup I've tweaked adodb to output to the browser any database errors encountered along with a backtrace of how the query was called. Because of this you'll notice a bunch of output about missing sequences during the table population process of the installation, these errors can be safely ignored as adodb automatically corrects them. What is needed is for testers to play around with this and find more database errors. If you encounter a problem the adodb debugging routine should output an error message to your browser page. Simply copy the error message (including the query and the backtrace) and file a bug added a short description of what you were trying to do at the time. I'm not sure what the best way to track these bugs is, ideally each one would be filed as a ticket in trac which blocks ticket #17, but I don't think trac supports meta bugs. Unfortunately I'm leaving town today and will be unavailable until Saturday but if people can help collect bug reports I'll get them fixed next weekend or some other developer may be able to fix some of them during the week. Thanks for all your help, Allan From justoff at hotmail.ru Tue Mar 21 04:33:27 2006 From: justoff at hotmail.ru (=?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz8jB?=) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:33:27 +0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-ready AlphabeticalSearch(); Message-ID: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> Hi all! Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. Improvements: 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) encoding. Or to use multiletter links. P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and criticism:) are welcome. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: include_utils.php.diff Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1097 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/0a4915b4/attachment-0004.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from > all your inputs. > > For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page > (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and > contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what > you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts > about home page too. :-) > > > thanks, > Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/a469be1d/attachment-0002.html From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 07:08:53 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:08:53 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com> how will this be integrated in the final release ? because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to execute command line commands to install stuff... I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible (because of restrictions on server) I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to put pear files there (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to take this files) btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! does image_graph output to SVG ? On 3/20/06, Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > > > > You can find it here : > > > > http://pear.php.net/packages.php?catpid=12&catname=Images > > > > Package Image_Canvas is required. > > > > You can also find very useful informations at : > > > > http://pear.veggerby.dk/ > > > > If you want to download it, you have first to install Pear. Follow the doc, > it is easy. > > > > > ________________________________ > > > De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] > De la part de Richie > > Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:25 > ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > > Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility > > > > > > > > My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working > with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the > posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the > forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. > > Richie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 07:14:18 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:14:18 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion In-Reply-To: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> References: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603210414h31cbdbt44c726b069250bcb@mail.gmail.com> saint, I can tell you what I *don't* want to see, but you already know that... ;-) /sak On 3/20/06, Saint wrote: > Folks.. > > Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home > page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all > your inputs. > > For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like > Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be > shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and > more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) > > > thanks, > Saint > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 09:43:25 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:43:25 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services Message-ID: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it only returns true or false... Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? for example... method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', 1); without any kind of authentication ... IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password each time one method is call. Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/62e30301/attachment-0004.html From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 13:35:03 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:35:03 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How To: merge changesets between branches Message-ID: I just merged our first change on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. Merging changes between branches: a) keeps the diff down for when you're ready to merge a branch back the other way (retiring the branch). b) is better than manually modifying your working copy to imitate a changeset and committing. It seems that this is the first use of the svn merge command in our fledgling repository, so I'll document how to do working-copy merges here for the benefit of others. We have a lot of merging to do between vtigercrm/branches/4.2 and vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1! (server side merges (between two rev-ranged URLS) are the ultimate for changeset-preserving history, but we can ease into that at some future date) The end result of the following steps is a tidy changeset with links to various items in trac: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4381 Step 1: Find the changeset you want to merge, on the trunk/branch it occurs: svn diff -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php =================================================================== --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4357) +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4358) @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ { $has_header = 1; } -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ { $datarows = $xrows; } -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; else $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; else $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; - -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; else $START = $_SESSION['startval']; -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; else $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; Step 2: merge the changeset (revision range + URL) to your working copy: $ svn merge -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 U modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Step 3: diff your working copy with merged changes to the repository URL $ svn diff modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php =================================================================== --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4380) +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (working copy) @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ { $has_header = 1; } -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ { $datarows = $xrows; } -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; else $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; else $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; - -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; else $START = $_SESSION['startval']; -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; else $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; Step 4: commit your working copy with merged changes, including a commit message that references/closes any applicable trac tickets. $ svn commit -m 'refs #62 and #17. merging changeset r4358 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration' modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Sending modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Transmitting file data . Committed revision 4381. From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 13:48:24 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:48:24 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Allan Bush wrote: > Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the > installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, > now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger. I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in postgresql). From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 21 15:30:09 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:30:09 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed In-Reply-To: References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com> Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > Allan Bush wrote: > >> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the >> installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, >> now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. >> > > Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an > install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't > noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful > contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger. > > I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in > postgresql). Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance. Mike From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Wed Mar 22 00:06:29 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:06:29 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have not checked Pear template dependencies. What do you mean by SVG? > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler > Envoy??: mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility > > how will this be integrated in the final release ? > > because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to > execute command line commands to install stuff... > I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will > find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible > (because of restrictions on server) > > I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to > put pear files there > (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to > take this files) > > btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! > does image_graph output to SVG ? > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 02:41:02 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:41:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How To: merge changesets between branches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4420FF8E.9040606@mikefedyk.com> Hi Jeff, Is is possible that you could be the branch merge maintainer? I've read through the first half of the svn book, but you have experience here that is quite valuable and will be an example for everyone to learn from also. Most any request that eases merging 4.2 <-> 5.0 will be followed (like possibly splitting utils.php in 4.2.x like I have heard it is in 5.0) as long as a consensus is reached. What do you say? Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > I just merged our first change on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. Merging changes between > branches: > > a) keeps the diff down for when you're ready to merge a branch back the > other way (retiring the branch). > > b) is better than manually modifying your working copy to imitate a > changeset and committing. > > It seems that this is the first use of the svn merge command in our > fledgling repository, so I'll document how to do working-copy merges here > for the benefit of others. We have a lot of merging to do between > vtigercrm/branches/4.2 and vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1! > > (server side merges (between two rev-ranged URLS) are the ultimate for > changeset-preserving history, but we can ease into that at some future > date) > > The end result of the following steps is a tidy changeset with links to > various items in trac: > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4381 > > > Step 1: Find the changeset you want to merge, on the trunk/branch it occurs: > > svn diff -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 > Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > =================================================================== > --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4357) > +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4358) > @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ > { > $has_header = 1; > } > -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; > > if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') > @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ > { > $datarows = $xrows; > } > -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; > else > $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; > > -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; > else > $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); > > -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; > - > -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; > else > $START = $_SESSION['startval']; > -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; > else > $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; > > > Step 2: merge the changeset (revision range + URL) to your working copy: > > $ svn merge -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 > U modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > > > Step 3: diff your working copy with merged changes to the repository URL > > $ svn diff modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > =================================================================== > --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4380) > +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (working copy) > @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ > { > $has_header = 1; > } > -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; > > if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') > @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ > { > $datarows = $xrows; > } > -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; > else > $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; > > -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; > else > $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); > > -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; > - > -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; > else > $START = $_SESSION['startval']; > -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; > else > $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; > > > Step 4: commit your working copy with merged changes, including a commit > message that references/closes any applicable trac tickets. > > $ svn commit -m 'refs #62 and #17. merging changeset r4358 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration' modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Sending modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Transmitting file data . > Committed revision 4381. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 02:53:20 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:53:20 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44210270.2010004@mikefedyk.com> We'll keep it in the source and keep it up to date just like all of our other php based dependencies. A script that removes the external dependencies and replaces them at packaging time (debian, gentoo, Lin/Win bin, etc.) would be a great help. And any patches that clean up referencing the location of external dependencies will be accepted. Anyone interested in writing that script? Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some > work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend > package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have > not checked Pear template dependencies. > > What do you mean by SVG? > > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler >> Envoy? : mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09 >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility >> >> how will this be integrated in the final release ? >> >> because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to >> execute command line commands to install stuff... >> I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will >> find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible >> (because of restrictions on server) >> >> I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to >> put pear files there >> (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to >> take this files) >> >> btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! >> does image_graph output to SVG ? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 03:01:30 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:01:30 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4421045A.50107@mikefedyk.com> A lot of those tables store many-many relationships between various modules. Which module owns a table when it references to more than one module? I've thought about this before but that really killed the idea for me. If a solution or policy can be made that solves it, then it looks much more interesting. Also I absolutely do not like storing version numbers in table or db names. The migration from 4.2.[0123] should be able to be done by testing for some unique structure that is not in that version and changing it to the current version. Also adodb's data dictionary functions may be able to do this for us. I just want to make sure it does it in a lossless fashion. Mike Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote: > Hi All, > > As newbe user of vtigercrm and starting programmer, I have been reading the > forums and mailingslist archive. As vtigercrm grows, we all would like to > see an easier structure to maintain, for example of the db. > I have implemented vtigercrm on my isp with ssl for my own business ( I run > a smal firm for system administrator ) and have done also on a Novell SBS > for several of my clients. > > Looking at the tablestructure of vtigercrm we have 192 tables total! > I wonder if prefix tables could be meaningfull, thinking of several > possibilities: > - If someone wants or must use only one database with several applications, > say joomla cms and vtigercrm at an isp. > - more seperation of db: on a 'per module' bases > - another seperation of db: add-on/plugins with there own prefix > - better version control of db, different prefix per version. > > >From above I suggest: > .vti_ as default > .vti_a_ for addon > .vti_p_ for plugin > .vti_{modulename}_ for module > > or with version control: > .vti_424_ > .vti_424_a > .vti_424_p > .vti_424_{modulename}_ > > > It would also eas the use of future migration scripts as migration could be > done in several layers. > > Best Regards, > > Remco Gerbrands > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 03:07:24 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:07:24 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-ready AlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> References: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> Message-ID: <442105BC.7080507@mikefedyk.com> Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce the output it would be even better. I'll take it either way though. Mike ?????? wrote: > Hi all! > > Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. > > Improvements: > 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php file and > can be easily localized or even freely modified. > 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or multicharacter) > values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) encoding. Or to use multiletter links. > > P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and > criticism:) are welcome. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 03:11:52 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:11:52 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). Joao Oliveira wrote: > Hello all, > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > only returns true or false... > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > for example... > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > each time one method is call. > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From justoff at hotmail.ru Wed Mar 22 06:44:00 2006 From: justoff at hotmail.ru (Anthony V. Scray) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:44:00 +0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-readyAlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <442105BC.7080507@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> > Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? Yes. Here is "unified" version. ("context" value for diff -u is 3) Previous version I made with wiki guide http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/HowToGeneratePatchWithWinMerge. > The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce > the output it would be even better. Currently I'am not familiar with template engine :( Maybe later.. >I'll take it either way though. Thanks. > > Mike > > ?????? wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. > > > > Improvements: > > 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php > > file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. > > 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or > > multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) > encoding. Or to use multiletter links. > > > > P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and > > criticism:) are welcome. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. 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I thought that it was possible to define there some custom server global variables, but it isn't. Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/22/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done > quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so > upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). > > Joao Oliveira wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > > only returns true or false... > > > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > > > for example... > > > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > > each time one method is call. > > > > Best Regards > > Jo?o Oliveira. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/74601a37/attachment-0002.html From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Wed Mar 22 08:01:09 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:01:09 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion In-Reply-To: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <00ac01c64db0$b1537f60$2201a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hello Saint, I would suggest adding sample standard roles, of which the common function of each role will have preset views (customizable per user). Key lesson is to provide only what information is needed and nothing more. Everything should fit in an 800 x 600 screen without scrolling vertically or horizontally. Here are my suggestions: Salesforce Staffing Sales Manager Homepage Front page will provide a summary of the team he manages, with individual drill-down capabilities to product/Sales Executive. Summary would include new leads/tasks/contacts obtained today, pending leads/tasks/contacts obtained by his team. "Message to the team" function with edit/display on all members homepage in his team. "Progress vs Target" statistics and/or charts for the month/quarter/year Sales Executive Homepage Front page will provide a summary of his new leads, pending leads, follow up cases and (if possible) reminders to contact clients who have not been contacted for x number of days/weeks/months based on eg. Last sale/quote date (workflow related) IF ENABLED, sales executive will be able to compare his performance with the others in the team he is in "Message to the team" function for "online" Sales Manager updates Management General Manager Homepage Front page will provide a summary of the entire company, with individual drill-down capabilities to product/sales team manager/Sales Executive. Statistics for total leads/task/contacts for individual teams and as an entire company, with charts to show daily/weekly/monthly/quarterly performance on the various factors. Summary of all aging/hottest products/etc and other custom analytics that are relevant to management and strategic planning. This is what I can think up of so far, will ask my team for feedback on the v5.0 UI and pass it along. _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Saint Sent: 20 March 2006 21:29 To: LANCER : Developers List Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion Folks.. Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all your inputs. For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) thanks, Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and then there was talk about svn. I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a repository somewhere? Thanks for the help, JLee -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 230 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/3dc9b8ac/attachment-0002.vcf From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Wed Mar 22 15:33:45 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:33:45 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Vote vote vote !!! Message-ID: <4421B4A9.1050008@vtigercrmfrance.org> vtiger is in final phase* Financial Projects* : http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php Make noise ! Vote vote vote!!!! From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 16:20:03 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:20:03 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. Josh Lee wrote: > Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. > > I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by one > of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is going over > the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import and export > will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export what he/she > would not normally have read access to. > > Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the one > on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and > then there was talk about svn. > > I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still > using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one > that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files > included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a > repository somewhere? > Thanks for the help, > JLee > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From jlee at zertis.net Wed Mar 22 16:39:24 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:39:24 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account there? Mike Fedyk wrote: >Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. > >Josh Lee wrote: > > >>Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >> >>I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by one >>of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is going over >>the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import and export >>will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export what he/she >>would not normally have read access to. >> >>Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the one >>on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and >>then there was talk about svn. >> >>I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a >>repository somewhere? >>Thanks for the help, >>JLee >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 219 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/4ab240b1/attachment-0002.vcf From jlee at zertis.net Wed Mar 22 17:01:19 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:01:19 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421C92F.7040405@zertis.net> Ok, so where is the new svn Repository at, and how do I access it? Josh Lee wrote: > Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't > work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account > there? > > > Mike Fedyk wrote: > >> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. >> >> Josh Lee wrote: >> >> >>> Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >>> >>> I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by >>> one of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is >>> going over the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import >>> and export will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export >>> what he/she would not normally have read access to. >>> >>> Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the >>> one on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, >>> and then there was talk about svn. >>> >>> I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>> using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>> that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>> included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of >>> a repository somewhere? >>> Thanks for the help, >>> JLee >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >>> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >>> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> > > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 219 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/ef17917d/attachment-0002.vcf From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 17:07:31 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:07:31 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421C92F.7040405@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> <4421C92F.7040405@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421CAA3.2010405@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage There is a link from the home page also.. Josh Lee wrote: > Ok, so where is the new svn Repository at, and how do I access it? > > > Josh Lee wrote: > >> Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't >> work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account >> there? >> >> >> Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >>> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. >>> >>> Josh Lee wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >>>> >>>> I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by >>>> one of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is >>>> going over the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import >>>> and export will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export >>>> what he/she would not normally have read access to. >>>> >>>> Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the >>>> one on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, >>>> and then there was talk about svn. >>>> >>>> I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>>> using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>>> that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>>> included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of >>>> a repository somewhere? >>>> Thanks for the help, >>>> JLee >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >>>> scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your >>>> hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho >>>> Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >>> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >>> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From vtiger at leev.net Wed Mar 22 18:03:56 2006 From: vtiger at leev.net (Lee Valentine) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:03:56 +1000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> Hi, To implement authentication into SOAP services, the servers can be placed in a director such as soap/ and place htaccess authentication in the directory. The soap client provides a function to authenticate: $client = new soapclient( 'http://server.com/crm/soap/server.php', ... ); $client->setCredentials('username', 'password'); .htaccess: AuthName "SOAP" AuthType Basic AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd Require valid-user Another method to use would be to place the code below at the top of the soap server and place the username/password in variables in the config. This method has prerequisites: "The $PHP_AUTH_USER, $PHP_AUTH_PW and $PHP_AUTH_TYPE global variables are only available when PHP is installed as a module. If you're using the CGI version of PHP, you will be limited to Web server-based authentication or other custom types of authentication (such as using HTML forms) to match passwords in a database." config: $soap_username = 'username'; $soap_password = 'password'; soap/server.php: if ( ( !isset( $PHP_AUTH_USER )) || (!isset($PHP_AUTH_PW)) || ( $PHP_AUTH_USER != $soap_username ) || ( $PHP_AUTH_PW != $soap_password ) ) { header( 'WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm="SOAP"' ); header( 'HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized' ); echo 'Authorization Required.'; exit; } I have implemented the first method and it works fine. Thanks, Lee On Mar 22 12:06, Joao Oliveira wrote: > Hello Mike. > > Thanks for the ansewer. > > I'm doing some search to evaluate how hard is to implement a session > mechanism in SOAP services in PHP. > > I'll post my results. > > In mean time, if someone has suggestions, please do post them. > > And about my sugestion regarding $_SERVER[], forget it. I thought that it > was possible to define there some custom server global variables, but it > isn't. > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira > > On 3/22/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > > How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done > > quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so > > upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). > > > > Joao Oliveira wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > > > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > > > only returns true or false... > > > > > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > > > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > > > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > > > > > for example... > > > > > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > > > > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > > > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > > > > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > > > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > > > each time one method is call. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Jo?o Oliveira. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 21:31:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:31:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> Message-ID: <4422087F.3050801@mikefedyk.com> Lee Valentine wrote: > Hi, > > To implement authentication into SOAP services, the servers can be placed in a director such as soap/ and place > htaccess authentication in the directory. The soap client provides a function to authenticate: > > $client = new soapclient( 'http://server.com/crm/soap/server.php', ... ); > $client->setCredentials('username', 'password'); > > .htaccess: > AuthName "SOAP" > AuthType Basic > AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd > Require valid-user > > Another method to use would be to place the code below at the top of the soap server and place the > username/password in variables in the config. This method has prerequisites: > > "The $PHP_AUTH_USER, $PHP_AUTH_PW and $PHP_AUTH_TYPE global variables are only available when PHP is installed as a > module. If you're using the CGI version of PHP, you will be limited to Web server-based authentication or other custom > types of authentication (such as using HTML forms) to match passwords in a database." I really don't want vtiger to authenticate against the web server, or a htpasswd file. We should authenticate SOAP against the vtiger users stored in the vtiger database, though this may be an interim solution. Can you ready a patch that takes care of the first option? It's better than what we have now.. Also I don't want to do anything that causes vtiger to depend on mod_php. I will have my test server running php over fastcgi via suexec soon in my development environment as this seems to be the only sane way to securely run a php web server. Mike From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 22:23:38 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:23:38 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-readyAlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> References: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> Message-ID: <442214BA.7080905@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4397 Next time, please create a new ticket and attach your patch there. Thanks for the patch. Mike Anthony V. Scray wrote: >> Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? >> > Yes. Here is "unified" version. ("context" value for diff -u is 3) > > Previous version I made with wiki guide > http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/HowToGeneratePatchWithWinMerge. > > >> The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce >> the output it would be even better. >> > Currently I'am not familiar with template engine :( Maybe later.. > > >> I'll take it either way though. >> > Thanks. > > >> Mike >> >> ?????? wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> >>> Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. >>> >>> Improvements: >>> 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php >>> file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. >>> 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or >>> multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) >>> >> encoding. Or to use multiletter links. >> >>> P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and >>> criticism:) are welcome. >>> >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> -- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >>> >> scribbling >> >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? >>> >> Try the AJAX >> >>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >> scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your >> hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho >> Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 23:52:10 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:52:10 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4398 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: data/CRMEntity.php modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php schema/DatabaseSchema.xml In-Reply-To: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <4422297A.90309@mikefedyk.com> Jeff, is there a way I can cherry pick parts of changesets from a branch with the svn merge command? vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > Author: mfedyk > Date: Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > New Revision: 4398 > > Log: > merge the non-postgres specific changes from 4.2_postgresql_integration. refs #17 and #62 > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -272,7 +272,7 @@ > } > > //This check is done for products. > - if($module == 'Products' || $module == 'Notes' || $module =='Faq') > + if($module == 'Products' || $module == 'Notes' || $module =='Faq' || $module == 'PriceBook' || $module == 'Vendor' || $module == 'Emails') > { > $vtlog->logthis("module is =".$module,'info'); > $ownerid = $current_user->id; > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -15,8 +15,9 @@ > //if($_REQUEST['module']=='Users') > // $sql = "insert into salesmanactivityrel values (". $_REQUEST["entityid"] .",".$_REQUEST["parid"] .")"; > //else > +if($_REQUEST['module']=='Potentials') > $sql = "insert into contpotentialrel values (". $_REQUEST["entityid"] .",".$_REQUEST["parid"] .")"; > -$adb->query($sql); > +else > $sql = "insert into seproductsrel values (". $_REQUEST["parid"] .",".$_REQUEST["entityid"] .")"; > $adb->query($sql); > header("Location: index.php?action=DetailView&module=Potentials&record=".$_REQUEST["parid"]); > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -571,6 +571,7 @@ > global $adb; > $sqldelete = "delete from activitygrouprelation where activityid=".$activityid; > $adb->query($sqldelete); > + if($groupname == '') return; > $sql = "insert into activitygrouprelation values (".$activityid .",'" .$groupname ."')"; > $adb->query($sql); > > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -160,7 +160,7 @@ > Type=InnoDB > modifiedby > > - > + > tabid > > > @@ -225,7 +225,7 @@ > > fieldname > > - > + > tabid > block > displaytype > @@ -726,7 +726,6 @@ > > > > - > > > > @@ -808,10 +807,10 @@ > Type=InnoDB > accountid > > - > + > potentialid > > - > + > sales_stage > > Type=InnoDB > @@ -845,7 +844,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -945,7 +944,7 @@ > activityid > subject > > - > + > activitytype > date_start > > @@ -957,10 +956,10 @@ > date_start > time_start > > - > + > eventstatus > > - > + > status > eventstatus > > @@ -1003,7 +1002,7 @@ > > > Type=InnoDB > - > + > attachmentsid > > > @@ -1044,7 +1043,7 @@ > Type=InnoDB > crmid > > - > + > attachmentsid > crmid > > @@ -1180,7 +1179,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -1582,7 +1581,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -1757,7 +1756,7 @@ > > ticketid > > - > + > status > > > @@ -1788,6 +1787,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -2381,6 +2381,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -3033,7 +3034,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > Type=InnoDB > @@ -3572,7 +3573,7 @@ > > > > - > + > profileid > tabid > > @@ -3607,11 +3608,11 @@ > tabid > fieldname > > - > + > tabid > profileid > > - > + > visible > profileid > > @@ -3657,10 +3658,10 @@ > tabid > fieldid > > - > + > tabid > > - > + > visible > fieldid > > @@ -3793,7 +3794,7 @@ > > > > - > + > relation_id > > > @@ -4050,10 +4051,10 @@ > > > > - > + > quotestage > > - > + > potentialid > > > @@ -4799,10 +4800,10 @@ > > > > - > + > > > - > + > > > cvid > @@ -4873,6 +4874,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -5070,10 +5072,10 @@ > > > > - > + > > > - > + > > > datefilterid > > > _______________________________________________ > vtigercrm-commits mailing list > vtigercrm-commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > http://lists.vtigercrm.com/mailman/listinfo/vtigercrm-commits > > From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 23 03:04:02 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (philip at vtiger.com) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:04:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. Message-ID: <10a2621b1ce.-3260762611567805994.-1177807435764824079@@vtiger.com> Hi Team, Yesterday we have updated vtigerCRM 5 alpha3 demo at the following url: http://vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php. The reason behind for updating the demo is mainly to get the communitysuggestions and feedback so that we can have a fairlystable release vtigerCRM 5 Beta release. So feel free to test the demo and post bugs/feedback @ http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/newticket While submitting a ticket please ensure that : Select the version as 5.0.0 from the Version field Referto view ticketshttp://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&status=closed&group=version&version=5.0.0&order=statusbefore reporting a new ticket to avoid duplicate tickets. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's more or less the same for these module_map names: accounts activity contact customview email (i would include tables starting with mail also) notes products quotes reports rss users Can this be used as references? Or use all tables originating from the module, for example from squirrelmail in one prefix table name. > .vti_ as default > .vti_a_ for addon > .vti_p_ for plugin > .vti_{modulename}_ for module Best regards, Remco Gerbrands -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Mike Fedyk Verzonden: woensdag 22 maart 2006 9:02 Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database A lot of those tables store many-many relationships between various modules. Which module owns a table when it references to more than one module? I've thought about this before but that really killed the idea for me. If a solution or policy can be made that solves it, then it looks much more interesting. Also I absolutely do not like storing version numbers in table or db names. The migration from 4.2.[0123] should be able to be done by testing for some unique structure that is not in that version and changing it to the current version. Also adodb's data dictionary functions may be able to do this for us. I just want to make sure it does it in a lossless fashion. Mike From jtk at yahoo.com Thu Mar 23 13:34:32 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:34:32 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4398 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: data/CRMEntity.php modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php schema/DatabaseSchema.xml References: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <4422297A.90309@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > Jeff, is there a way I can cherry pick parts of changesets from a branch > with the svn merge command? The way I wrote up the svn merge example, with working-copy merges, would allow you to cherrypick in the following ways (possibly combining ways): a) only include selected files in your svn merge command, pulling only changes to that file into your working copy b) svn merge a smaller revision range, to get a few changesets instead of many. c) after merging changes to your working copy, svn diff your working copy, and manually undo certain changes (reducing the diff to your URL at rev HEAD), before committing. You have complete flexibility with what you commit, svn merge to working copy simply fetches applicable changes for you. From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Fri Mar 24 02:01:22 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:01:22 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. In-Reply-To: <10a2621b1ce.-3260762611567805994.-1177807435764824079@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <003b01c64f10$f11f01d0$4e64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hello Philip, How would I and my UI team be able to submit reviews and comments on the UI? For example, if there is a screen that I mention and need to provide recommendations for? With my clients we would usually perform screen captures and provide comments, circles-and-arrows and other markups for rapid review. Please advice. _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of philip at vtiger.com Sent: 23 March 2006 15:04 To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. Hi Team, Yesterday we have updated vtigerCRM 5 alpha3 demo at the following url: http://vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php. The reason behind for updating the demo is mainly to get the community suggestions and feedback so that we can have a fairly stable release vtigerCRM 5 Beta release. So feel free to test the demo and post bugs/feedback @ http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/newticket While submitting a ticket please ensure that : * Select the version as 5.0.0 from the Version field * Refer to view tickets http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/query?status=new&status=assigned &status=reopened&status=closed&group=version&version=5.0.0&order=status before reporting a new ticket to avoid duplicate tickets. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark them as applicable to version 5.0.0. http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/report The caveat is that the vtiger team is not (yet) using trac tickets and milestones to document their good and rapid work. I think that's a mistake and a lost opportunity, but I wasn't going to push the issue until vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 is imminent. Once the 5.0.0 version is in beta, we as a community have to apply the same disciplines that are being used to stabilize vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to good effect. From jlee at zertis.net Fri Mar 24 16:55:36 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:55:36 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 alpha 3 In-Reply-To: References: <003b01c64f10$f11f01d0$4e64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Message-ID: <44246AD8.9070707@zertis.net> I have a client who wants v5alpha3, so I am turning into a stable version for them. Here are some diffs for some patches. I do not have the time to create my own branch and submit these. Please someone take the time to commit these, to save everyone else the work. Index: includes/database/PearDatabase.php =================================================================== --- includes/database/PearDatabase.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/database/PearDatabase.php (working copy) @@ -435,7 +437,9 @@ /* ADODB newly added. replacement for mysql_result() */ function query_result(&$result, $row, $col=0) + if(!$result) + return null; //$this->println("ADODB query_result r=".$row." c=".$col); $result->Move($row); $rowdata = $this->change_key_case($result->FetchRow()); Index: includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php =================================================================== --- includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php (working copy) @@ -861,9 +861,9 @@ for($i=0; $i<$num_row; $i++) { $rel_tab_id = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"related_tabid"); - echo '
'.$rel_tab_id.'
'; + //echo '
'.$rel_tab_id.'
'; $funtion_name = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"name"); - echo '
'.$funtion_name.'
'; +// echo '
'.$funtion_name.'
'; $label = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"label"); if($rel_tab_id != 0) { Index: includes/utils/export.php =================================================================== --- includes/utils/export.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/utils/export.php (working copy) @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ require_once('modules/Potentials/Opportunity.php'); require_once('modules/Users/User.php'); require_once('modules/Products/Product.php'); - +require_once 'include/utils/UserInfoUtil.php'; global $allow_exports; session_start(); @@ -202,10 +204,12 @@ */ $order_by = ""; - $query = $focus->create_export_query($order_by,$where); - + // I made a new function for security during exporting. It makes sure they only have access + // to export what they would have access to read. Previous to this, anyone who had export writes, could export anything. + $query = $focus->create_export_query($order_by,$where); + $clause = getExportSecurityClause($type); + $query .= "\n and (\n $clause \n)"; + //print "
";
+       //print "
";
        //print $query;

        $result = $adb->query($query,true,"Error exporting $type: 
"."
$query");

Index: utils/UserInfoUtil.php
===================================================================
--- utils/UserInfoUtil.php      (revision 4391)
+++ utils/UserInfoUtil.php      (working copy)
@@ -3730,7 +3730,37 @@
        }
        return $list;
 }
+function getExportSecurityClause($module) {
+       global $current_user;

+       $tabid=getTabid($module);
+       global $current_user;
+       if($current_user)
+       {
+               
require('user_privileges/user_privileges_'.$current_user->id.'.php');
+               
require('user_privileges/sharing_privileges_'.$current_user->id.'.php');
+       }
+
+       $clause = "crmentity.smownerid in(".$current_user->id.") or 
crmentity.smownerid in(select user2role.userid from user2role inner join 
users on users.id=user2role.userid inner join role on 
role.roleid=user2role.roleid where role.parentrole like 
'".$current_user_parent_role_seq."::%') or crmentity.smownerid in(select 
shareduserid from tmp_read_user_sharing_per where 
userid=".$current_user->id." and tabid=".$tabid.")";
+       return $clause;
+}
 function getListViewSecurityParameter($module)
 {
        global $adb;


Hope this helps.
Josh Lee

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sun Mar 26 17:27:33 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:27:33 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility
In-Reply-To: 
References: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <49216030603261427pd3c0c1alef30958f9413be12@mail.gmail.com>

SVG is client-side graphs (or charting in this case)

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG

firefox 1.5 support SVG, (IE6 support it with the adobe plugin)

I heard somewhere that image_graph was planned to support output in SVG...


/sak

On 3/22/06, Michel JACQUEMES  wrote:
> I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some
> work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend
> package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have
> not checked Pear template dependencies.
>
> What do you mean by SVG?
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler
> > Envoy?: mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09
> > ?: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Objet: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility
> >
> > how will this be integrated in the final release ?
> >
> > because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to
> > execute command line commands to install stuff...
> > I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will
> > find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible
> > (because of restrictions on server)
> >
> > I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to
> > put pear files there
> > (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to
> > take this files)
> >
> > btw, michel you are doing a great job here !
> > does image_graph output to SVG ?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Mar 28 22:22:29 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (gopals at vtiger.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:22:29 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 API Documentation
Message-ID: <10a44061414.6947144176994677531.944817448814908012@@vtiger.com>

Dear Team,

As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on accomplishing this task.

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Mar 30 13:01:02 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:31:02 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks better?
Message-ID: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>

Folks

Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these color 
variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks 
appealing to you..

thanks,
Saint


*Model A*


or this one..?

*Model B

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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Thu Mar 30 13:55:13 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:55:13 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C2991.1040101@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi saint, my vote go to model A, more soft for me.
A?ssa
Saint a ?crit :

> Folks
>
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
> working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these 
> color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample 
> looks appealing to you..
>
> thanks,
> Saint
>
>
> *Model A*
>
>
> or this one..?
>
> *Model B
>
> *
>
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From jlee at zertis.net  Thu Mar 30 14:12:54 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:12:54 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>

Saint wrote:

> Folks
>
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
> working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these 
> color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample 
> looks appealing to you..
>
> thanks,
> Saint
>
>
> *Model A*
>
>
> or this one..?
>
> *Model B
>
> *
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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>
Heh, I like B, it is bolder.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From info at GariDigital.com  Thu Mar 30 14:19:49 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:19:49 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com> <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>

I like model A

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 3/30/06, Josh Lee  wrote:
>
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Folks
> >
> > Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are
> > working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these
> > color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample
> > looks appealing to you..
> >
> > thanks,
> > Saint
> >
> >
> > *Model A*
> >
> >
> > or this one..?
> >
> > *Model B
> >
> > *
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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> >
> Heh, I like B, it is bolder.
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
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From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Thu Mar 30 15:16:56 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:16:56 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com> <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
	<677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <994473020603301216u43171a5bod8aca1c60bd30949@mail.gmail.com>

I like A better.    More business like in my opinion.


Jamie


On 3/30/06, Jorge Garifuna  wrote:
>
> I like model A
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com
>
>
> On 3/30/06, Josh Lee  wrote:
> >
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Folks
> > >
> > > Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are
> > > working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these
> > > color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample
> > > looks appealing to you..
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Saint
> > >
> > >
> > > *Model A*
> > >
> > >
> > > or this one..?
> > >
> > > *Model B
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> >
> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> > >
> > Heh, I like B, it is bolder.
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
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From info at adlibweb.com  Thu Mar 30 15:19:04 2006
From: info at adlibweb.com (adlibweb)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>

Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out better), better blending, green button stands out better.

n
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Saint 
  To: vtiger-crm ; LANCER : Developers List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:01 PM
  Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks better?


  Folks

  Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks appealing to you..

  thanks,
  Saint


  Model A


  or this one..?

  Model B




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From nolan at peaceworks.ca  Thu Mar 30 15:27:59 2006
From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:27:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C3F4F.9030001@peaceworks.ca>

yup... A

peace,
nokes

Saint wrote:
> Folks
> 
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are working on. 
> We started the color with blue.. and came across these color variants Model A 
> and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks appealing to you..
> 
> thanks,
> Saint
> 
> 
> *Model A*
> 
> 
> or this one..?
> 
> *Model B
> 
> *
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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From rrg at r2g.nl  Thu Mar 30 16:05:48 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Remco R. Gerbrands)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:05:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
	<009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
Message-ID: <20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200, adlibweb wrote
> Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out 
> better), better blending, green button stands out better.


Agree, A is better.

Remco

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From libregeek at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 00:48:29 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:18:29 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
	<009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
	<20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>
Message-ID: <2315046d0603302148q7606cd2ap3c326da2cd79a913@mail.gmail.com>

A looks cool and elegant.
regards
Manilal

On 31/03/06, Remco R. Gerbrands  wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200, adlibweb wrote
> > Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out
> > better), better blending, green button stands out better.
>
>
> Agree, A is better.
>
> Remco
>
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Mar 31 05:35:08 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:35:08 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
Message-ID: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other 
lang for release.

See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with english.

For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the 
link go to "Hacking Attempt".

Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.

UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.

Screenshot calendar1.jpg, since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format 
here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's 
Day month year).

The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway 
harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as 
vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on 
vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !


A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta 
test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open 
the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and 
relation to promote vtiger outside community.

Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
A?ssa

.
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From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 06:21:58 2006
From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:21:58 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I totally agree with you A?ssa.
I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.

If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.

Best Regards
Jo?o Oliveira.

On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
>
> Hi team,
> i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> lang for release.
>
> See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
>
> For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> link go to "Hacking Attempt".
>
> Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
>
> UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
>
> Screenshot calendar1.jpg, since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> Day month year).
>
> The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
>
>
> A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> relation to promote vtiger outside community.
>
> Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> A?ssa
>
> .
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From info at adlibweb.com  Fri Mar 31 06:27:01 2006
From: info at adlibweb.com (adlibweb)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:27:01 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>

And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joao Oliveira 
  To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang


  Hello all,

  I totally agree with you A?ssa. 
  I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.

  If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.

  Best Regards
  Jo?o Oliveira.


  On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
    Hi team,
    i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
    lang for release.

    See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with english.

    For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the 
    link go to "Hacking Attempt".

    Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.

    UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.

    Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
    here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
    Day month year).

    The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
    harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
    vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
    vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !


    A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta 
    test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
    the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
    relation to promote vtiger outside community.

    Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english 
    A?ssa

    .


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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 07:20:34 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:20:34 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
Message-ID: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>

once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak

On 3/31/06, adlibweb  wrote:
>
> And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joao Oliveira
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
>
> Hello all,
>
> I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>
> If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
> all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>
> Best Regards
> Jo?o Oliveira.
>
>
> On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
> > Hi team,
> > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > lang for release.
> >
> > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
> >
> > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> >
> > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
> >
> > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> >
> > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > Day month year).
> >
> > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> >
> >
> > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> >
> > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > A?ssa
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
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> >
>
>
>
>
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From richie at vtiger.com  Fri Mar 31 08:30:43 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:30:43 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
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That, is not the exact fact. 
We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues at our end. Once we resolve those, 
we will have it integrated into the product. 
 
/sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time. 
internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we have been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see for everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. Every contribution is important to us and we try hard to 
do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to integrate all of them quickly. 
MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have 
worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the issues. We still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon with his help. 
 
 
Thanks, 
Richie




---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ---- 

  once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak

On 3/31/06, adlibweb <info at adlibweb.com> wrote:
>
> And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joao Oliveira
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
>
> Hello all,
>
> I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>
> If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
> all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>
> Best Regards
> Jo?o Oliveira.
>
>
> On 3/31/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
> > Hi team,
> > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > lang for release.
> >
> > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
> >
> > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> >
> > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
> >
> > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> >
> > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > Day month year).
> >
> > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> >
> >
> > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> >
> > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > A?ssa
> >
> > .
> >
> >
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 10:48:20 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:48:20 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <7528873980224066170@unknownmsgid>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
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	<7528873980224066170@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030603310748j570b0fffp8b073b5d8d47d8a6@mail.gmail.com>

richie, I din't know that, my apologies...


On 3/31/06, Richie  wrote:
> That, is not the exact fact.
> We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues at
> our end. Once we resolve those,
> we will have it integrated into the product.
>
> /sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time.
> internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we have
> been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see for
> everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. Every
> contribution is important to us and we try hard to
> do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to integrate
> all of them quickly.
> MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have
> worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the issues. We
> still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon with his help.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Sergio A. Kessler wrote ----
>
>
>  once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
> is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(
>
> /sak
>
> On 3/31/06, adlibweb  wrote:
> >
> > And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joao Oliveira
> > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> > I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> > loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
> >
> > If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to
> review
> > all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jo?o Oliveira.
> >
> >
> > On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
> > > Hi team,
> > > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > > lang for release.
> > >
> > > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> > english.
> > >
> > > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> > >
> > > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for
> translaters.
> > >
> > > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> > >
> > > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > > Day month year).
> > >
> > > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> > >
> > >
> > > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > > A?ssa
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
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> down
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> >
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From rrg at r2g.nl  Fri Mar 31 08:29:44 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:29:44 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Well,

What is against implementing gettext solution from mike into vtigercrm v5?
Not in v4 as that's stable and this would be a new feature: easier
translations.
So what can I do to get this implemented?

Remco


[/sak wrote:]
once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak



From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Mar  1 01:34:41 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:34:41 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on last
	commits for trunk branches on php files
Message-ID: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>

hi team,

i noticed a problem on some commits:

Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php
==============================================================================
Binary files - no diff available.

php files are not binary files ;)
mime-type is false, you must use text/plain.

command under linux/cygwin (thks mike):
find -iname '*.php*' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain

cheers,

fathi


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Wed Mar  1 01:32:44 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:32:44 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on
 last commits for trunk branches on php files
In-Reply-To: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <44056A3C.2080704@mikefedyk.com>

Fathi Boudra wrote:

>hi team,
>
>i noticed a problem on some commits:
>
>Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php
>==============================================================================
>Binary files - no diff available.
>
>php files are not binary files ;)
>mime-type is false, you must use text/plain.
>
>command under linux/cygwin (thks mike):
>find -iname '*.php*' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain
>  
>
One too many asterisks in there...  It should be:

find -iname '*.php' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain




From jtk at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  1 05:40:59 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:40:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Binary files - no diff available. on
	last commits for trunk branches on php files
References: <200603011034.41473.fboudra@free.fr>
	<44056A3C.2080704@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: 

On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:32:44 -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:

> Fathi Boudra wrote:
> 
>>hi team,
>>
>>i noticed a problem on some commits:
>>
>>Modified: vtigercrm/trunk/install/1checkSystem.php
>>==============================================================================
>>Binary files - no diff available.
>>
>>php files are not binary files ;)
>>mime-type is false, you must use text/plain.
>
> One too many asterisks in there...  It should be:
> 
> find -iname '*.php' |xargs svn ps svn:mime-type text/plain


Also, each committer should have a good [auto-props] section in their
~/.subversion/config file, which properly sets mime-type and eol-type for
all file extensions in use by this project (including .inc, etc.)



From jtk at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  1 11:57:50 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:57:50 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigercrm-5.0.0alpha2 demo looks great
Message-ID: 

Just wanted to congratulate the vtigercrm team on the improvements to the
vtigercrm-5.0.0alpha2 demo. It's really looking quite good. There isn't
really a lot of use for positive feedback in the trac ticket system, so
I'll say it here.

I'd also like to commend the vtigercrm-4.2.x maintainers, whose efforts to
support the stable release are allowing the vtigercrm team to make these
leaps forward.

Thanks again, guys.



From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 10:58:07 2006
From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:58:07 +0000
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Receiving data from outside sources
In-Reply-To: <49216030602280713g71d470edw676dcd0219757fb2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43FB7E8F.7030502@mikefedyk.com>
	
	<440382EA.9090701@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030602271634s362b7038rd469c4d2287b00d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<4403BDF9.6030606@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030602280713g71d470edw676dcd0219757fb2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86f04e340603011058h1a0675e8mea3efc6d7c3a623d@mail.gmail.com>

I found this when i was reading about REST...

http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2004/12/12/rest-to-my-wife

Maybe you want to explain it to your wife... :)

Best Regards
Joao Oliveira.

On 2/28/06, Sergio A. Kessler  wrote:
>
> like, look in
>
> http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
>
> there are various code samples there...
>
> basically you don't need a specialized library, good old
> file_get_contents is your friend ;-)
> (or you can use the curl extension)
>
> I'm imagining something like:
>
> exporting:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=csv
> or
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=xml
>
> importing:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=import_client
>
> this last call should be made by a POST action, passing in the data,
> can be made by a simple php script, something like
>
> foreach line in the source csv_file
> {
>     $postargs = 
>
>     // Get the curl session object
>     $session = curl_init($request);
>
>     // Set the POST options.
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POST, true);
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS, $postargs);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_HEADER, true);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true);
>
>     // Do the POST and then close the session
>     $response = curl_exec($session);
>     curl_close($session);
>
>
> of course, the folder "api" should be protected wrt security.
>
> /sak
>
>
> On 2/28/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> > Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> >
> > >On 2/27/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>The focus of the question is how to get data in and out of vtiger
> using
> > >>public interfaces from another automated system.  I would like to
> renew
> > >>that question.  Is SOAP the only and/or best answer in this area?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >nop.
> > >SOAP is a complex beast that must die.
> > >
> > >you can use REST (web services done right).
> > >
> > >just like yahoo does with php:
> > >
> > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
> > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/howto-reqRestPhp.html
> > >
> > >note that with "output" parameter you can control what you get, ie.
> > >CSV, XML, txt, whatever.
> > >
> > >
> > Have any links to php libraries for REST?  I'm reading through the
> > various articles in Wikipedia right now...
>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 15:23:15 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:23:15 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Receiving data from outside sources
In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603011058h1a0675e8mea3efc6d7c3a623d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43FB7E8F.7030502@mikefedyk.com>
	
	<440382EA.9090701@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030602271634s362b7038rd469c4d2287b00d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<4403BDF9.6030606@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030602280713g71d470edw676dcd0219757fb2@mail.gmail.com>
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wow, very illustrative, very...  :-)

I will keep this link handy when someone start to mention acronyms of
complicated and bloated protocols...

cites from the article:

"The protocol I was talking about, HTTP - it's capable of all sorts of
neat stuff that people ignore for some reason."

"Instead, the large majority [of computer people] are busy writing
layers of complex specifications for doing this stuff in a different
way that isn't nearly as useful or eloquent."


he!, if you really want to know the the advantages of SOAP, look at this link:

http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200504/msg00274.html


/sak


On 3/1/06, Joao Oliveira  wrote:
> I found this when i was reading about REST...
>
> http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2004/12/12/rest-to-my-wife
>
> Maybe you want to explain it to your wife... :)
>
> Best Regards
> Joao Oliveira.
>
>
> On 2/28/06, Sergio A. Kessler  wrote:
> >
> like, look in
>
> http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
>
> there are various code samples there...
>
> basically you don't need a specialized library, good old
> file_get_contents is your friend ;-)
> (or you can use the curl extension)
>
> I'm imagining something like:
>
> exporting:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=csv
> or
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=export_clients&output=xml
>
> importing:
> www.domain.com/api/index.php?action=import_client
>
> this last call should be made by a POST action, passing in the data,
> can be made by a simple php script, something like
>
>  foreach line in the source csv_file
>  {
>     $postargs = 
>
>     // Get the curl session object
>     $session = curl_init($request);
>
>     // Set the POST options.
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POST, true);
>     curl_setopt ($session, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS, $postargs);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_HEADER, true);
>     curl_setopt($session, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true);
>
>     // Do the POST and then close the session
>     $response = curl_exec($session);
>     curl_close($session);
>
>
> of course, the folder "api" should be protected wrt security.
>
> /sak
>
>
> On 2/28/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> > Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> >
> > >On 2/27/06, Mike Fedyk < mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>The focus of the question is how to get data in and out of vtiger using
> > >>public interfaces from another automated system.  I would like to renew
> > >>that question.  Is SOAP the only and/or best answer in this area?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >nop.
> > >SOAP is a complex beast that must die.
> > >
> > >you can use REST (web services done right).
> > >
> > >just like yahoo does with php:
> > >
> > >http://developer.yahoo.net/php/
> > > http://developer.yahoo.net/php/howto-reqRestPhp.html
> > >
> > >note that with "output" parameter you can control what you get, ie.
> > >CSV, XML, txt, whatever.
> > >
> > >
> > Have any links to php libraries for REST?  I'm reading through the
> > various articles in Wikipedia right now...
>
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Thu Mar  2 01:52:16 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:52:16 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released!
Message-ID: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>

Dear Team,

We are pleased inform you the release of vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 (development release) for  testing purpose.

Major Features:
Campaign management
Enhanced pre-defined dashboards
AJAXified Edit Fields in all the modules

Intuitive System Administration
Integration of Web services to update all your public listed customer/company profiles
View multidimensional models for product catalog
Latest news on company updates
Shout box for vtiger CRM users
Redesigned Customer Self-service portal
Support for MySQL 4.1.x database system

    Demo: 

    vtiger CRM: http://www.vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php

     admin/admin

    Customer Portal:

    http://www.vtiger.com/products/crm/customerportal_5alpha/

Note: First create a contact in vtiger CRM Alpha demo and get the user name password. Don't forget to enable "Portal User" option in Contact details page.

Download:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/vtigercrm/vtiger_CRM_5_alpha2_Source.tar.gz?download

Installation Procedure:

http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Vtiger_CRM_5_Alpha_2_-_Installation_Guide

Bug Tracker: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/report

Discussions: http://forums.vtiger.com/index.php?c=10

Please do post your suggestions & comments to provide a better product for vtiger community.

Cheers,

Gopal
(On behalf of vtiger Team)


S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
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From ar at im-netz.de  Thu Mar  2 04:00:59 2006
From: ar at im-netz.de (Alexander Rothenberg)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:00:59 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree?
Message-ID: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de>

Hi evryone,
i was trying get the vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree from the
sourceforge-cvs-server with "cvs -z3
-d:pserver:anonymous at cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/vtigercrm co -r
VTIGERCRM_4_2_BRANCH vtiger_crm" but i stil get the 5 alpha 2, can any1
tell me what im doing wrong? or is there a better way to get the 4.2.4
RC2 source?

thx, alex


From fboudra at free.fr  Thu Mar  2 05:10:04 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:10:04 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger-crm 4.2.4 RC2 cvs-tree?
In-Reply-To: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de>
References: <4406DE7B.1070106@im-netz.de>
Message-ID: <200603021410.04813.fboudra@free.fr>

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage


From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Thu Mar  2 05:54:49 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:54:49 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview
In-Reply-To: <4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>
References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com>
	<4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>

saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using
images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations...

/sak

On 2/28/06, Saint  wrote:
>
>         Team,
>
>  The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI.  In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order.
>
>  After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided.
>
>  - Saint
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jamieinnh at gmail.com.idc.adventnet.com  Thu Mar  2 07:18:30 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com.idc.adventnet.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:18:30 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Someone is saying the Demo of vTiger has
	been hacked
Message-ID: <994473020603020718s415f49acx9fe445568a1196b4@mail.gmail.com>

I went to the demo and can't see where it's changed, but has anyone looked
into this?

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=21417#21417


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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Thu Mar  2 09:06:33 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:06:33 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 Release Schedule
In-Reply-To: <43FC5310.90206@mikefedyk.com>
References: <43FBF414.8020407@mikefedyk.com> <43FC5310.90206@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <44072619.5060101@mikefedyk.com>

Hi everyone,

Well we missed our release date, again. :)

I need to do a few checkins before a checkin, and make an rc3.  I want 
to make sure the windows installer is ready so it can be released when 
rc3 goes out and get a day or two of testing.

Other than that I think we're ready for 4.2.4 to be let loose.

Mike

Mike Fedyk wrote:

>Did I say May?  Sorry that should have been *March* 1st.
>
>Mike
>
>Mike Fedyk wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>I am planning on releasing 4.2.4rc1 on Friday, so let's get in all of 
>>the changes that are planned for 4.2.4 before then so we can release 
>>on May 1st.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Thu Mar  2 09:07:29 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:07:29 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview
In-Reply-To: <49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com>	<4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com>

I believe it is generated from text and can be translated properly just 
like everything else.

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using
>images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations...
>
>/sak
>
>On 2/28/06, Saint  wrote:
>  
>
>>        Team,
>>
>> The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI.  In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order.
>>
>> After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided.
>>
>> - Saint
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>  
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Mar  2 09:35:04 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:05:04 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Dashboard UI - Preview
In-Reply-To: <44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com>
References: <079.cdb353d9b1b85b26746072087321fa8d@vtiger.fosslabs.com>	<4403E8EB.6020606@vtiger.com>	<49216030603020554o6189e2d1y674ccd14c4d633fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<44072651.7000909@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <44072CC8.9020303@vtiger.com>

Mike, Sak,

In GA the image heading will be replaced with text heading.

-Saint



Mike Fedyk wrote:

>I believe it is generated from text and can be translated properly just 
>like everything else.
>
>Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
>  
>
>>saint, that look very cool, but I think is better to avoid using
>>images as text, as it will complicate very much the translations...
>>
>>/sak
>>
>>On 2/28/06, Saint  wrote:
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>       Team,
>>>
>>>The following is the preview of the upcoming Analytics > dashboard UI.  In the final build, you will find an UI looking similar to this image. For each modules (links in the left side), dashboard will show four type of charts in a one-by-one (4rows x 1 col) order.
>>>
>>>After checking the usability/feedback in the testing environment, we may rearrange the style to show charts in (2rows x 2col) order. Anyway that is not yet decided.
>>>
>>>- Saint
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt 
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Thu Mar  2 12:07:09 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:07:09 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Who is handling vtiger's freshmeat entry?
In-Reply-To: <10990400e17.756168470955524032.5677358827788219315@@vtiger.com>
References: <43FB94F8.6020208@mikefedyk.com>
	<10990400e17.756168470955524032.5677358827788219315@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <4407506D.5000604@mikefedyk.com>

I still don't see an update for alpha2...

Gopal wrote:
>
> Dear Mike,
>
> I will update vtiger project details in freshmeat ASAP.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gopal
>
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ----
>
>     It needs a release notification about 5.0 alpha.
>
>     I use freshmeat for searching open source projects and improving our
>     ranking there will help get us more users and developers IMO.
>
>     Mike
>     _______________________________________________
>     This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still
>     using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the
>     AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho
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>
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From saint at vtiger.com  Fri Mar  3 01:14:16 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:44:16 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
Message-ID: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>

Team,

We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a 
Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major 
modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20, 
50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus 
eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module. To 
facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been 
given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the 
dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral bindings 
to the right.

Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of page 
heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the default 
landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people can select 
their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can select their fav 
module and so, the others.


-Saint

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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Mar  3 01:25:20 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:25:20 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i 
have french users very positive feedback.
A?ssa

Saint a ?crit :

> Team,
>
> We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a 
> Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major 
> modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20, 
> 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus 
> eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module. 
> To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been 
> given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the 
> dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral 
> bindings to the right.
>
> Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of 
> page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the 
> default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people 
> can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can 
> select their fav module and so, the others.
>
>
> -Saint
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>http://zohowriter.com/?vt 
>  
>


From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar  3 07:19:13 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:19:13 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>

saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard
approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two
different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web
usability, you just broke the "page" concept...

there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen.

(I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...)

/sak

On 3/3/06, Webmaster  wrote:
> Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i
> have french users very positive feedback.
> A?ssa
>
> Saint a ?crit :
>
> > Team,
> >
> > We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a
> > Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major
> > modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20,
> > 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus
> > eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module.
> > To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been
> > given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the
> > dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral
> > bindings to the right.
> >
> > Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of
> > page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the
> > default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people
> > can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can
> > select their fav module and so, the others.
> >
> >
> > -Saint
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
> >http://zohowriter.com/?vt
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
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From saint at vtiger.com  Fri Mar  3 11:21:45 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:51:45 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>

sak,

Sorry, I couldnt get what you mean by "two differnet scroll windows". 
Please throw some more light over this! In the At a Glance UI, there is 
only one scrollable DIV layer in the right.



cheers,
Saint



Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard
>approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two
>different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web
>usability, you just broke the "page" concept...
>
>there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen.
>
>(I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...)
>
>/sak
>
>On 3/3/06, Webmaster  wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i
>>have french users very positive feedback.
>>A?ssa
>>
>>Saint a ?crit :
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Team,
>>>
>>>We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a
>>>Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major
>>>modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20,
>>>50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus
>>>eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module.
>>>To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been
>>>given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the
>>>dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral
>>>bindings to the right.
>>>
>>>Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of
>>>page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the
>>>default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people
>>>can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can
>>>select their fav module and so, the others.
>>>
>>>
>>>-Saint
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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From developer at infointegrated.com  Fri Mar  3 05:48:11 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 07:48:11 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <88BAD7A1-DE7C-44A5-827E-5FD40B679FE2@infointegrated.com>

Saint,

A couple of comments:

The new UI looks amazing. it really is slick, and I can't wait for it  
to be released. :)

The Dashboard looks like a website within a website. It doesn't  
appear to be well integrated into vtiger. My main concern is the  
static size of the iframe (not sure that's what it is, just what it  
looks like). This means having a larger display is not an advantage.  
Plus, there's a lot of wasted space on the screen (if you make you  
browser window larger). I hope that this is adjusted for the final  
release. It also appears that the future At a Glance may have the  
same issue.

I really like the new At a Glance... I still think vtiger needs a  
home page that can be customized with daily use information. A sort  
of, "What am I doing today? view". I think of activities, meetings,  
open tickets, email, calendar... the first things I look at every  
day. I'd like to have a place I can quickly see all of them.

Thanks, and keep up the great work!
Brian

On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:14 AM, Saint wrote:

> Team,
>
> We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called At a  
> Glance. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major  
> modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10,  
> 20, 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and  
> thus eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X  
> module. To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All  
> Modules" has been given, which will display all Top X modules one  
> by one (like the dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have  
> included spiral bindings to the right.
>
> Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of  
> page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the  
> default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people  
> can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can  
> select their fav module and so, the others.
>
>
> -Saint
> 
>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still  
> using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the  
> AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho  
> Writer for FREE instead!
> http://zohowriter.com/?vt

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From fp at crm-now.de  Fri Mar  3 07:11:00 2006
From: fp at crm-now.de (Frank Piepiorra)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:11:00 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reports fixing
Message-ID: <200603031512.k23FCCFn012852@doko.im-netz.de>

There has been a posting of a Reports fix, I do not see it included in rc2:

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3884&highlight=report

Regards,
Frank



From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar  3 12:36:42 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:36:42 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>

saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...

I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
within a website"...

look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...

see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
"page" has been broken...

"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
way around a website or finding the content they wanted."

what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html


it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
the graph part (which is not what I want)


/sak
(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.


On 3/3/06, Saint  wrote:
>  sak,
>
>  Sorry, I couldnt get what you mean by "two differnet scroll windows".
> Please throw some more light over this! In the At a Glance UI, there is only
> one scrollable DIV layer in the right.
>
>
>
>  cheers,
>  Saint
>
>
>
>
>  Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>  saint, I don't know how this will work, but if the "dashboard
> approach" consist of mantaining two different windows with two
> different scroll windows in the same page, this is very, very bad web
> usability, you just broke the "page" concept...
>
> there must be an article out there about this from Jakob Nielsen.
>
> (I myself was confused to see that my scrollwheel was not working...)
>
> /sak
>
> On 3/3/06, Webmaster  wrote:
>
>
>  Hi Saint, let me tell you, your job on vtiger CRM 5 UI is very good, i
> have french users very positive feedback.
> A?ssa
>
> Saint a ?crit :
>
>
>
>  Team,
>
> We are updating the home page UI as well. This will be called *At a
> Glance*. More or less similar to compact report/list view of major
> modules. All the Top 10 lists will now become Top X (where x = 10, 20,
> 50, 100 and All). This UI uses the same dashboard approach and thus
> eliminates the number of scrolls to reach a particular Top X module.
> To facilitate viewing all Top X lists the "Show All Modules" has been
> given, which will display all Top X modules one by one (like the
> dashboard). To add some visual appeal, we have included spiral
> bindings to the right.
>
> Each module will have a "Make as default view" link to the right of
> page heading. When clicked, the current module will be set as the
> default landing tab when the home page is viewed. Thus sales people
> can select their fav module to be seen first, marketing people can
> select their fav module and so, the others.
>
>
> -Saint
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From philip at vtiger.com  Fri Mar  3 12:25:18 2006
From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:25:18 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
Message-ID: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com>

Hi Developers,

The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location 
http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe

Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as there was execption during installation.

Regards,
Rajkumar
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Fri Mar  3 22:23:15 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:23:15 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
In-Reply-To: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com>
References: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <44093253.2000807@mikefedyk.com>

Can someone send me the modified source files?

I don't have a windows machine I can use for testing.

Mike

Philip wrote:

> Hi Developers,
>
> The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location 
> http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe
>
> Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as there was execption during installation.
>
> Regards,
> Rajkumar
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead!
>http://zohowriter.com/?vt 
>  
>


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Fri Mar  3 22:33:05 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:33:05 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
>
>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
>within a website"...
>
>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...
>
>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
>"page" has been broken...
>
>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
>way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
>
>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
>
>
>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
>the graph part (which is not what I want)
>
>
>/sak
>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.
>  
>
I'm sorry but I completely disagree.

Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with 
the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the 
concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.

And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll 
the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of 
IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in 
Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).


From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 04:24:25 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 13:24:25 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
Message-ID: 

I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.

VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.

While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
we can read that:

"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
License for commercial use."

So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
specifically for commercial usage.

Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.

Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
your opinion?


Marcin
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Sat Mar  4 04:33:56 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:33:56 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <44098934.7060300@vtigercrmfrance.org>

"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) 
For non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph 
Professional License for commercial use."

vtiger CRM is open-source so i think there is no problem.
A?ssa

Marcin Antczak a ?crit :

> I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
>
> VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version 
> there is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 
> license.
>
> While it's true but only partially. Because on 
> http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
> we can read that:
>
> "JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) 
> For non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph 
> Professional License for commercial use."
>
> So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, 
> we need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software 
> designed specifically for commercial usage.
>
> Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
>
> Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what 
> to do with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to 
> config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What 
> is your opinion?
>
>
> Marcin
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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>http://zohowriter.com/?vt 
>  
>


From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Sat Mar  4 04:39:34 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Webmaster)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:39:34 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger blogs spammed
Message-ID: <44098A86.7010700@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi,
the vtiger blog is spammed by registered users !

http://blogs.vtiger.com/weblog_entry.php?p=21517#21517

http://blogs.vtiger.com/weblog_entry.php?p=21525#21525

Aissa



From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 06:58:15 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 09:58:15 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
References: <18711.168508935$1141418802@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: 

Philip wrote:
> Hi Developers,
> The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following location 
> http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe
> Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php
> as there was execption during installation. Regards,
> Rajkumar

Sigh...

There is no version vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC. There are
release candidates vtigercrm-4.2.4rc1, vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2, and
vtigercrm-4.2.4rc3, and the final release will be vtigercrm-4.2.4. Which
version does this installer resemble?


Thanks for the efforts on an installer, they are appreciated.




From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 07:08:58 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 12:08:58 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
	<440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com>

1. I don't use IE.

2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the
vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux).

3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple
scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that.


/sak

On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
> >saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
> >vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
> >
> >I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
> >within a website"...
> >
> >look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...
> >
> >see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
> >"page" has been broken...
> >
> >"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
> >since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
> >Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
> >doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
> >way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
> >
> >what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
> >jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
> >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
> >
> >
> >it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
> >what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
> >rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
> >the graph part (which is not what I want)
> >
> >
> >/sak
> >(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.
> >
> >
> I'm sorry but I completely disagree.
>
> Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with
> the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the
> concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.
>
> And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll
> the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of
> IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in
> Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 09:37:48 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:37:48 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available
In-Reply-To: 
References: <18711.168508935$1141418802@news.gmane.org>
	
Message-ID: <200603041837.49042.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 15:58, Jeff Kowalczyk a ?crit?:
> Philip wrote:
> > Hi Developers,
> > The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following
> > location http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe
> > Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php
> > as there was execption during installation. Regards,
> > Rajkumar
>
> Sigh...
> 
> There is no version vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC. There are
> release candidates vtigercrm-4.2.4rc1, vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2, and
> vtigercrm-4.2.4rc3, and the final release will be vtigercrm-4.2.4. Which
> version does this installer resemble?
> 
>
> Thanks for the efforts on an installer, they are appreciated.

like jeff said, i recall that you can look the small developer documentation :
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki

especially coding style and naming scheme.
comments/contributions are welcomed too.

cheers,

Fathi



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 10:23:09 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:23:09 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit?:
> I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
>
> VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
> is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.
>
> While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
> we can read that:
>
> "JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
> License for commercial use."
>
> So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
> need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
> specifically for commercial usage.
>
> Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
>
> Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
> with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
> config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
> your opinion?
>
>
> Marcin

from debian jpgraph copyright file:
---BEGIN---
For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle 


To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed 
version. You can read on home page:

"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
License for commercial use."

This is not compliant with DFSG #6 

"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a 
specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from 
being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research."

It was downloaded from:
http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz
---END---

with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source" 
term :
"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
License for commercial use."

but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire 
the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on 
a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are 
using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business 
processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company. 
In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either 
through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most 
likely falls under commercial use."

with this statements, my interpretation is:
we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't 
sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services 
around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic 
advantage" and need professional license.

This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph 
professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know.

We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last 
GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ?

cheers,

Fathi



From developer at infointegrated.com  Sat Mar  4 09:13:52 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:13:52 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised
In-Reply-To: <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com>
	<44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com>
	<44089749.6060804@vtiger.com>
	<49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com>
	<440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com>

I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should  
not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I  
was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels  
(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with  
two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21"  
screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels  
rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a  
small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page.


On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

> 1. I don't use IE.
>
> 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the
> vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux).
>
> 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple
> scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that.
>
>
> /sak
>
> On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
>> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>>
>>> saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
>>> vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
>>>
>>> I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
>>> within a website"...
>>>
>>> look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking  
>>> about...
>>>
>>> see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept  
>>> of a
>>> "page" has been broken...
>>>
>>> "The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
>>> since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
>>> Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
>>> doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding  
>>> their
>>> way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
>>>
>>> what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
>>> jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
>>> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
>>>
>>>
>>> it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
>>> what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
>>> rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
>>> the graph part (which is not what I want)
>>>
>>>
>>> /sak
>>> (*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web  
>>> usability.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm sorry but I completely disagree.
>>
>> Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with
>> the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the
>> concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.
>>
>> And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't  
>> scroll
>> the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is  
>> because of
>> IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox  
>> and in
>> Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).
>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 10:46:02 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:46:02 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>

Fathi BOUDRA wrote:

>Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit :
>  
>
>>I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
>>
>>VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
>>is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.
>>
>>While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
>>we can read that:
>>
>>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
>>non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
>>License for commercial use."
>>
>>So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
>>need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
>>specifically for commercial usage.
>>
>>Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
>>
>>Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
>>with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
>>config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
>>your opinion?
>>
>>
>>Marcin
>>    
>>
>
>from debian jpgraph copyright file:
>---BEGIN---
>For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle 
>
>
>To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed 
>version. You can read on home page:
>
>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
>non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
>License for commercial use."
>
>This is not compliant with DFSG #6 
>
>"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a 
>specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from 
>being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research."
>
>It was downloaded from:
>http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz
>---END---
>
>with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source" 
>term :
>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For 
>non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional 
>License for commercial use."
>
>but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
>http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
>"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire 
>the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on 
>a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are 
>using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business 
>processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company. 
>In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either 
>through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most 
>likely falls under commercial use."
>
>with this statements, my interpretation is:
>we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't 
>sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services 
>around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic 
>advantage" and need professional license.
>
>This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph 
>professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know.
>
>We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last 
>GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ?
>
We need to change to jgraph 1.5.2 and if the GPL version isn't being 
maintained we will need to find an alternative or maintain it ourselves.

Mike


From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 10:47:10 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:47:10 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: 

On 3/4/06, Fathi BOUDRA  wrote:
>
> but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
> http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
> "if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to
> acquire
> the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph
> on
> a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are
> using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business
> processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company.
> In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either
> through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this
> most
> likely falls under commercial use."
>
> with this statements, my interpretation is:
> we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't
> sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services
> around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic
> advantage" and need professional license.



And this is the problem.

Because I agree:

- you don't sell vtiger so you can use jpgraph since you don't gain any
incomes

- you can also distribute jpgraph but then problem is that you don't know
how other use vtiger

- if they use vtiger 'non-commercial' then everything is ok
  (for example open source developers, private users... )

- but as we all know - vtiger is open source product targeted for business
users, so they:

"In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either
through paying customers or improving ___internal___ business processes)
this most
likely falls under commercial use."

So although you can distribute jpgraph, you can use this as open source
developer etc. then other _business_ users violate JpGraph license and
should buy 'JpGraph professional' license or - remove/disable this library
in vtiger - or downgrade library that is bundled with vtiger to 1.5.2 as
Fathi said.


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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 10:48:35 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 15:48:35 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr> <4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph


On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk  wrote:
> Fathi BOUDRA wrote:
>
> >Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 13:24, Marcin Antczak a ?crit :
> >
> >
> >>I got extremely important question about JpGraph license.
> >>
> >>VtigerCRM contains JpGraph library and in vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2 version there
> >>is only COPYING.txt file that says that JpGraph is on QPL 1.0 license.
> >>
> >>While it's true but only partially. Because on http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph
> >>we can read that:
> >>
> >>"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> >>non-commercial, open-source or educational use and JpGraph Professional
> >>License for commercial use."
> >>
> >>So while propably some VtigerCRM users will use this software for fun, we
> >>need to be honest and we all know that VtigerCRM is software designed
> >>specifically for commercial usage.
> >>
> >>Then anyone that uses VtigerCRM commercially violates JpGraph license.
> >>
> >>Please comment this. And if some VtigerCRM developers could say what to do
> >>with this issue? Simple remove JpGraph or maybe add an option to
> >>config.inc.php that could allow to turn on and off this library. What is
> >>your opinion?
> >>
> >>
> >>Marcin
> >>
> >>
> >
> >from debian jpgraph copyright file:
> >---BEGIN---
> >For licensing reason only GPLed 1.5.2 is now packaged by Christian Bayle
> >
> >
> >To be clear for those that would ask why I don't upload the new 1.16 QPLed
> >version. You can read on home page:
> >
> >"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> >non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional
> >License for commercial use."
> >
> >This is not compliant with DFSG #6
> >
> >"The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a
> >specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from
> >being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research."
> >
> >It was downloaded from:
> >http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/downloads/jpgraph-1.5.2.tar.gz
> >---END---
> >
> >with this, we can agree that we fall under QPL license because "open-source"
> >term :
> >"JpGraph is released under a dual license. QPL 1.0 (Qt Free Licensee) For
> >non-commercial, open-source and educational use and JpGraph Professional
> >License for commercial use."
> >
> >but there's also "non-commercial" term. We can see on jpgrah website:
> >http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/proversion.php
> >"if you plan on using JpGraph in a commercial context you will need to acquire
> >the professional license. Commercial use is for example if you use JpGraph on
> >a site to provide a service for paying customers or for example if you are
> >using JpGraph in an intranet to provide support for internal business
> >processes, i.e. in benefit for a commercial company.
> >In short, if you use JpGraph where you have an economic advantage (either
> >through paying customers or improving internal business processes) this most
> >likely falls under commercial use."
> >
> >with this statements, my interpretation is:
> >we use jpgraph QPL licensed in vtigercrm, an open-source product. We don't
> >sell the product ("open-source" term related)but some people sell services
> >around it("non-commercial" term related). They use jpgraph in an "economic
> >advantage" and need professional license.
> >
> >This is just facts, from licenses informations that we have. Is it jpgraph
> >professional license legal ? is it QPL compatible ? i don't know.
> >
> >We seem to use jpgraph version 1.20.3. Do we need to use version 1.5.2, last
> >GPL version ? Remove jpgraph and provide alternative ?
> >
> We need to change to jgraph 1.5.2 and if the GPL version isn't being
> maintained we will need to find an alternative or maintain it ourselves.
>
> Mike
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 11:03:24 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:03:24 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph

Without knowing much about the library API itself, this has the added
advantage that it is PHP4/5 compatible. jpgraph on the other hand, has two
incompatible versions:

PHP4: JpGraph 1.x - series Note: The 1.x series is only for PHP4. It will
not work on PHP5. Version: 1.20.3 (18 Feb 2006)

PHP5: JpGraph 2.x - series Note: The 2.x series is only for PHP5. It will
not work on PHP4 Version: 2.1.1 (19 Feb 2006)

I know we're not supporting PHP5 at the moment, but that's one less thing
to worry about when the time comes. FWIW ran an old version of vtigercrm
on PHP 5 for a while, and jpgraph was the only obvious thing that didn't
work.



From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 11:08:22 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:08:22 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>

Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:

>Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>  
>
>>http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph
>>    
>>
>
>Without knowing much about the library API itself, this has the added
>advantage that it is PHP4/5 compatible. jpgraph on the other hand, has two
>incompatible versions:
>
>PHP4: JpGraph 1.x - series Note: The 1.x series is only for PHP4. It will
>not work on PHP5. Version: 1.20.3 (18 Feb 2006)
>
>PHP5: JpGraph 2.x - series Note: The 2.x series is only for PHP5. It will
>not work on PHP4 Version: 2.1.1 (19 Feb 2006)
>
>I know we're not supporting PHP5 at the moment, but that's one less thing
>to worry about when the time comes. FWIW ran an old version of vtigercrm
>on PHP 5 for a while, and jpgraph was the only obvious thing that didn't
>work.
>  
>
Bye bye jgraph.

Sounds good and we will punt jgraph ASAP.   For now we will use jgraph 
1.5.2 until it is replaced.

Mike


From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 11:05:51 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:05:51 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
References: 
	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>
	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>
	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph

I'd also like to ask the prevailing opinion on what the licensing
difference would be if (graph library X) were an external dependency. 

I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of
course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks
of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but
now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.

Let vtiger worry about its own GPL license only. Let the distro
maintainers, and user-administrator decide if vtigercrm and
well-specified prerequisites are compatible with their free-software
policies.



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 11:27:08 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 20:27:08 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr>

good news :)

we've got an agreement :
* short term :
- replace current jpgraph 1.20.3, and use last gpl release 1.5.2
- indeed, some "regression" tests are needed ...
* long term :
- provide alternative -> Image_Graph, LGPL licensed
http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph

We need also vtiger core team comments, especially for 5.x.
ATM, there's only Image_graph alternative proposal, but if you know a good 
competitor feel free to submit :)

regarding last jeff post:
Image_graph v0.7.1 is in debian (php-image-graph)

debian/ubuntu package are on their way to drop :
* adodb
* squirrelmail
* phpsysinfo

and use distribution package.

cheers,

Fathi


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 11:41:57 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:41:57 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 	<200603041923.10068.fboudra@free.fr>	<4409E06A.4090709@mikefedyk.com>	<49216030603041048o7769d5c3v54430abcce5c5733@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>

Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:

>Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>  
>
>>http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph
>>    
>>
>
>I'd also like to ask the prevailing opinion on what the licensing
>difference would be if (graph library X) were an external dependency. 
>
>I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of
>course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks
>of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but
>now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
>distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.
>  
>

This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the 
vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything 
there.  Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water.  I don't think 
this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues.

>Let vtiger worry about its own GPL license only. Let the distro
>maintainers, and user-administrator decide if vtigercrm and
>well-specified prerequisites are compatible with their free-software
>policies.
>  
>
Hold on here.

Vtiger code is VPL (modified MPL) and forked SPL (borked MPL) code.  
There are several modules that are other licenses.

Nowhere is the vtiger core GPL AFAIK.  I'm pushing to find ways to make 
added files licensed under the LGPL, but haven't gotten very far on that 
so far...

Vtiger team, please stop using the VPL and relicense vtiger code under 
LGPL *only*.


From jtk at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  4 11:46:48 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:46:48 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
References: 
	
	<4409E5A6.4070405@mikefedyk.com>
	<200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: 

Fathi BOUDRA wrote:
> regarding last jeff post:
> Image_graph v0.7.1 is in debian (php-image-graph)
> 
> debian/ubuntu package are on their way to drop :
> * adodb
> * squirrelmail
> * phpsysinfo
> 
> and use distribution package.

Is there a generally applicable idiom to check the existence and version
number of PHP libraries, much like we do for the gd extension (meaning C
extension, I presume):

   "2.0") { ... }

If so, it would be great to put those in a concise script that is called
by 1checkSystem.php.

This would make it easier to update external
dependencies (without mucking with the PHP templates), and also to
inventory dependency requirements for distro packagers.



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 12:07:27 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 21:07:27 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042107.27158.fboudra@free.fr>

> Vtiger code is VPL (modified MPL) and forked SPL (borked MPL) code.
> There are several modules that are other licenses.
>
> Nowhere is the vtiger core GPL AFAIK.  I'm pushing to find ways to make
> added files licensed under the LGPL, but haven't gotten very far on that
> so far...
>
> Vtiger team, please stop using the VPL and relicense vtiger code under
> LGPL *only*.

seconded on this way.

MPL is considered by some people a "not so free license".
from my point of view, SPL/VPL must be avoided.

At the begining, i searched for a crm software and found sugar.
Drop it in favor of vtigercrm, because of licensing issues.
some people tells me: v5.x will be LGPL.

I already asked about clarification :
http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2006-February/000102.html

no reply ...

cheers,

Fathi


From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 12:22:09 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 21:22:09 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 20:41, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?:
> >I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking, of
> >course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private snapshots/forks
> >of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades, but
> >now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
> >distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.
> > ?
>
> This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the
> vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything
> there. ?Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water. ?I don't think
> this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues.

from the beginning, there's architectural problem to keep our own copies of 
softwares inside vtigercrm. We must deal with all licenses problem.

We must focus on vigercrm code only and integration with external 
dependencies. Yes, it's only dependencies and not vtigercrm core code.
These 3rd party software must be packaged correctly by packagers, it's their 
job.

vtigercrm really need code cleanup, and a modular view of vtigercrm 
"distribution".



From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 13:17:01 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 22:17:01 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	
	<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com> <200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: 

On 3/4/06, Fathi BOUDRA  wrote:
>
> Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 20:41, Mike Fedyk a ?crit:
> > >I'm on record as favoring external dependency (with version checking,
> of
> > >course) for everything vtigercrm currently keeps private
> snapshots/forks
> > >of. My reasons were primarily for distro-provided security upgrades,
> but
> > >now licensing issues seem like they would be made easier if we didn't
> > >distribute third-party software and keep it in our repository.
> > >
> >
> > This only offloads the licensing issue to the distributor, like the
> > vtiger windows exe and Linux bin distro so we don't gain anything
> > there. Also it leaves the vtiger users in hot water. I don't think
> > this is a good way at all to avoid licensing issues.
>
> from the beginning, there's architectural problem to keep our own copies
> of
> softwares inside vtigercrm. We must deal with all licenses problem.
>
> We must focus on vigercrm code only and integration with external
> dependencies. Yes, it's only dependencies and not vtigercrm core code.
> These 3rd party software must be packaged correctly by packagers, it's
> their
> job.
>
> vtigercrm really need code cleanup, and a modular view of vtigercrm
> "distribution".
>


I agree in 100%

at this moment I modularized:

- adodb
- libphp-log4php

and work on:

- squirrelmail
- phpsysinfo
- xtemplate
- tutos

and think about:

- phpBB
- fpdf
- phpmail


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From marcin.antczak at gmail.com  Sat Mar  4 14:11:44 2006
From: marcin.antczak at gmail.com (Marcin Antczak)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:11:44 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
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Another question - who and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or remove it
completely?


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From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 14:22:23 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:22:23 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
	
	
Message-ID: <200603042322.23411.fboudra@free.fr>

> Another question - who

vtiger maintenance team

> and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or remove it completely ?

scheduled for 4.2.5. We're short in time for 4.2.4.
that can be trivial, but tests are a requirement.

but i'm not 4.2.4 release manager so i prefer mike or matt official 
confirmation.

feel free to submit patch on the ticket that i'll create in some minutes.

cheers,

Fathi


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Sat Mar  4 14:23:35 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:23:35 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: 
References: 		<4409ED85.20007@mikefedyk.com>
	<200603042122.09509.fboudra@free.fr>	
	
Message-ID: <440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>

What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3?  If jgraph is newer than 1.5.2 then 
we're already in violation so leave the current version of jgraph in 
4.2.4 and then we can use 1.5.2 or another replacement in vtiger 4.2.5. 

If vtiger 4.2.3 had 1.5.2 or earlier, then we should just revert and put 
in the replacement when someone has done the patch.

Marcin Antczak wrote:
> Another question - who and when will downgrade jpgraph to 1.5.2 or 
> remove it completely?
>
>
> Marcin
>
>
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From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 14:33:06 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:33:06 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>
References: 
	
	<440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:23, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?:
> What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3 ?

1.20.3 ...

opened:
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58



From fboudra at free.fr  Sat Mar  4 14:34:34 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 23:34:34 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph
In-Reply-To: <200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr>
References: 
	<440A1367.5010303@mikefedyk.com>
	<200603042333.07211.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <200603042334.34955.fboudra@free.fr>

Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:33, Fathi BOUDRA a ?crit?:
> Le Samedi 4 Mars 2006 23:23, Mike Fedyk a ?crit?:
> > What version of jgraph is in 4.2.3 ?
>
> 1.20.3 ...
>
> opened:
> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58
> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58

typo error :
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/58
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/59



From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Sun Mar  5 02:23:56 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:23:56 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Support of MySQL 5 in 4.1 version
Message-ID: 

Hi all,

 

Pursuing my efforts on database compatibility, find joined somme patches
allowing support of MySQL 5.0. Something remarqable to notice is that most
of the changes have the same origin than those for mssql or postgres
support.

 

It also lights up some defects in vtiger database schema, that could help to
solve some issues in current versions.

 

These patches are made to keep compatibility with previous versions of
MySQL. They have been tested with MySQL 4.1.16 (limited test according to
the time I have).

 

Requirements :

upgrade to last version of AXMLS package (1.0.2 include MySQL 5 support) in
adodb directory

patch to adodb-datadict.inc.php to solve MySQL 5.0 bug with default value of
TIMESTAMP fields.

 

CONFIG :

PHP 5.1.2

MySQL 5.0.18

 

ABSTRACT

 

DatabaseSchema :

ON DELETE CASCADE -> ON DELETE NO ACTION (already documented)

change cvcolumnlist index (primary key not unique)

change selectcolumn index (primary key not unique)

change relcriteria index (primary key not unique)

change faqcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing default
value)

change ticketcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing
default value)

 

Utils :

getDBInsertDateValue change empty date ('--') -> '0000-00-00'

replace contact list query joins according to SQL standards

 

CRMEntity, LoginHistory, PopulateComboValues, PopulateReports:

replace default field value from "''" to "DEFAULT"

 

Security :

replace default field value from "''" to "NULL" in Tab INSERT query

 

COMMENTS

 

Database schema, primary key not unique

 

CREATE of cvcolumnlist :
columnindexType=InnoDB
is changed to : cvidcolumnindex columnindexType=InnoDB
cvid is not unique, several columns for same customview TIMESTAMP default values There is probably a bug in MySQL 5.0. CREATE TABLE DATETIME NOT NULL is supposed to default to CURRENT_TIMESTAMP but it doesn't. DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP and DATETIME DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP are not accepted That is the reason of the patch in adodb-datadict.inc.php, it generates : DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT '0000-00-00 00:00:00' which is accepted. Note : I have probably forgotten some clauses in XML schema. Hope this will help in building a more opened software. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/d6524d45/attachment-0003.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The rest of the world) if they still use IE, the inferior browser which has over 90% of the market but it still cannot beat us, the Firefox elite" is not going to bring a technically superior product to the masses. The concept of working on opensource is great, but to make something that the masses will use, we would have to understand that the success of any good software lies on being as simple and idiot-proof as possible to use/install. PS. Sorry for contributing only now, my usability team and I have been tied up with projects all the way till May. -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Sergio A. Kessler Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:09 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised 1. I don't use IE. 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. /sak On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > >saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two > >vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... > > > >I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website > >within a website"... > > > >look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about... > > > >see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a > >"page" has been broken... > > > >"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, > >since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. > >Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that > >doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their > >way around a website or finding the content they wanted." > > > >what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, > >jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: > >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html > > > > > >it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see > >what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I > >rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling > >the graph part (which is not what I want) > > > > > >/sak > >(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability. > > > > > I'm sorry but I completely disagree. > > Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with > the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the > concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. > > And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll > the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of > IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in > Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! http://zohowriter.com/?vt From saint at vtiger.com Sun Mar 5 00:14:51 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:44:51 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> Message-ID: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module with non-div layout. The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the *Show All Modules*, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables of records as usual. We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? - Saint Brian Devendorf wrote: >I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. > > >On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > >>1. I don't use IE. >> >>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >> >>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >> >> >>/sak >> >>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >> >>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>>>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >>>> >>>>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>>>within a website"... >>>> >>>>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>>>about... >>>> >>>>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>>>of a >>>>"page" has been broken... >>>> >>>>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>>>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>>>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>>>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>>>their >>>>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >>>> >>>>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>>>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>>>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >>>> >>>> >>>>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>>>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>>>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>>>the graph part (which is not what I want) >>>> >>>> >>>>/sak >>>>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>>>usability. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >>> >>>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >>> >>>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>>scroll >>>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>>because of >>>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>>and in >>>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060305/522932b2/attachment-0003.html From fboudra at free.fr Sun Mar 5 03:44:08 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi BOUDRA) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:44:08 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Support of MySQL 5 in 4.1 version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603051244.09107.fboudra@free.fr> thanks michel, i'll add your patch to ticket 43: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/43 cheers, Fathi Le Dimanche 5 Mars 2006 11:23, Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit?: > Hi all, > > > > Pursuing my efforts on database compatibility, find joined somme patches > allowing support of MySQL 5.0. Something remarqable to notice is that most > of the changes have the same origin than those for mssql or postgres > support. > > > > It also lights up some defects in vtiger database schema, that could help > to solve some issues in current versions. > > > > These patches are made to keep compatibility with previous versions of > MySQL. They have been tested with MySQL 4.1.16 (limited test according to > the time I have). > > > > Requirements : > > upgrade to last version of AXMLS package (1.0.2 include MySQL 5 support) in > adodb directory > > patch to adodb-datadict.inc.php to solve MySQL 5.0 bug with default value > of TIMESTAMP fields. > > > > CONFIG : > > PHP 5.1.2 > > MySQL 5.0.18 > > > > ABSTRACT > > > > DatabaseSchema : > > ON DELETE CASCADE -> ON DELETE NO ACTION (already documented) > > change cvcolumnlist index (primary key not unique) > > change selectcolumn index (primary key not unique) > > change relcriteria index (primary key not unique) > > change faqcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing default > value) > > change ticketcomments add DEFTIMESTAMP to column createdtime (missing > default value) > > > > Utils : > > getDBInsertDateValue change empty date ('--') -> '0000-00-00' > > replace contact list query joins according to SQL standards > > > > CRMEntity, LoginHistory, PopulateComboValues, PopulateReports: > > replace default field value from "''" to "DEFAULT" > > > > Security : > > replace default field value from "''" to "NULL" in Tab INSERT query > > > > COMMENTS > > > > Database schema, primary key not unique > > > > CREATE of cvcolumnlist : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > columnindex > > > > Type=InnoDB > > > >
> > > > is changed to : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cvid > > columnindex > > > > > > columnindex > > > > Type=InnoDB > > > >
> > cvid is not unique, several columns for same customview > > > > TIMESTAMP default values > > > > There is probably a bug in MySQL 5.0. > > > > CREATE TABLE > > DATETIME NOT NULL > > > > is supposed to default to CURRENT_TIMESTAMP but it doesn't. > > > > DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP > > and > > DATETIME DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP > > are not accepted > > > > That is the reason of the patch in adodb-datadict.inc.php, it generates : > > > > DATETIME NOT NULL DEFAULT '0000-00-00 00:00:00' > > > > which is accepted. > > Note : I have probably forgotten some clauses in XML > schema. > > > > Hope this will help in building a more opened software. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Sun Mar 5 13:43:56 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:43:56 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <440B5B9C.5080403@mikefedyk.com> Sounds good, but a workable middle-ground can be to have only one area in At-a-Glance will be scrollable. This way you can show everything you want, with the tabs always visible but only one part of the page can scroll. Saint wrote: > After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions > about using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. > > For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one > module with non-div layout. > > The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs > in 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. > > The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in > the *Show All Modules*, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. > Though this actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs > from eye-sight) it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching > the page top. Clicking the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top > Leads etc will list the tables of records as usual. > > We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. > Depending on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. > > So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? > > - Saint > > > > > > Brian Devendorf wrote: > >>I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >>not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >>was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >>(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >>two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >>screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >>rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >>small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. >> >> >>On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >>>1. I don't use IE. >>> >>>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >>> >>>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >>> >>> >>>/sak >>> >>>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>>>>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >>>>> >>>>>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>>>>within a website"... >>>>> >>>>>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>>>>about... >>>>> >>>>>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>>>>of a >>>>>"page" has been broken... >>>>> >>>>>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>>>>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>>>>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>>>>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>>>>their >>>>>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >>>>> >>>>>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>>>>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>>>>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>>>>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>>>>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>>>>the graph part (which is not what I want) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>/sak >>>>>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>>>>usability. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >>>> >>>>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>>>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>>>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >>>> >>>>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>>>scroll >>>>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>>>because of >>>>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>>>and in >>>>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>>Writer for FREE instead! >>>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > From andre at dreamlab.net Mon Mar 6 02:01:25 2006 From: andre at dreamlab.net (andre at dreamlab.net) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:01:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP support in 5.0 Message-ID: <23469.138.190.15.46.1141639285.squirrel@mailer.dreamlab.net> Hello, I tried to use LDAP as user database backend, but it didn't really work out. I read that the LDAP patches are included, however, some files are missing (authTypes/LDAP.php). But adding those files doesn't really help neither. What is the state of the LDAP integration ? Is there a recent howto or description somewhere ? regards andr? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 02:32:17 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:32:17 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How to stream data directly to database without reading entire file into memory? Message-ID: <440C0FB1.3060205@mikefedyk.com> Hi all, I'm having an issue with the upload code. It reads the entire file into memory and base64 encodes it before sending it to the database. It fails storing a 5MB file with a 32MB memory limit. I looked through the adodb docs and thought I found a solution with UpdateBlobFile, but it reads the entire file into memory also. Searching through google didn't turn anything up for php, I found a few things for VB or .net but that won't help us here. Anyone have a solution? From sergiokessler at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 05:29:44 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 10:29:44 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> hi saint, I don't have a problem with this, but let me point that this is not a new experiment. for a unknow reasons many humans believe they are the first to do what they do, but in fact what they are doing has been tryed many moons ago... and many times has been also analyzed many moons ago... it happens to me in programming every time, when I'am confronted with a problem, my first reaction is "well, I can't be the only one with this problem, sure this problem has been raised before and solved before by someone else" so, instead of wasting my time trying to invent something already invented, I just focus my energy in searching for the available solution. and in my many years of programming I never invented something new :-) and this is exactly what I'm trying to tell you, don't be fooled thinking the problem you face rigth now, is something new to the usability of web systems. you are *not* the first to face this problem, in fact this problem has been raised, studied and analyzed many time ago (it comes from the frames era) and has been the subject of many people specialized in the field of web usability. yes, you can experiment with this problem, I don't have any problem with that, but what you are doing is nothing new. /sak ps: "(you lose the top tabs from eye-sight)" this is not a problem, it happens on almost every site. ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the whole page. On 3/5/06, Saint wrote: > After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about > using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. > > For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module > with non-div layout. > > The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in > 2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. > > The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the > Show All Modules, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this > actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) > it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking > the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables > of records as usual. > > We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending > on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. > > So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? > > - Saint > > > > > > > Brian Devendorf wrote: > I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should > not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I > was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels > (guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with > two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" > screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels > rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a > small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. > > > On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > > 1. I don't use IE. > > 2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the > vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). > > 3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple > scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. > > > /sak > > On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > > > saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two > vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... > > I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website > within a website"... > > look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking > about... > > see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept > of a > "page" has been broken... > > "The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, > since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. > Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that > doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding > their > way around a website or finding the content they wanted." > > what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, > jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: > http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html > > > it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see > what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I > rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling > the graph part (which is not what I want) > > > /sak > (*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web > usability. > > > > I'm sorry but I completely disagree. > > Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with > the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the > concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. > > And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't > scroll > the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is > because of > IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox > and in > Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still > using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the > AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho > Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your > desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, > collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! > http://zohowriter.com/?vt > > > From libregeek at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 06:03:30 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:33:30 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Module Management Message-ID: <2315046d0603060603i420615d9x@mail.gmail.com> Hello vtiger team, Sorry for cross-posting, earlier I have posted the same thread in Vtiger Forums. I had experimented with dotproject for more than a year and the most striking feature I noticed about dotproject is the module management. In dotproject the mosules can be added and configured from the web-interface and most of them are independent. so we can easily move them off. This gives both site admins and developers much more flexibility and freedom. IMHO, some modules may be identified as core modules and they should be included by default. All other modules may be installed and used at the site admin's descretion. In this way we can avoid some of the modules like Shoutbox, dashboard if it's not required. This also enhance the development of more independent modules/plugins. It will also reduce the tasks of the core developers integrating the new modules. This has more significance now, because vtiger is moving on to new vtigerforge.com and this will also lead to the gradual development of vtigerCRM API. Like to hear from the developers in this regard. TIA Manilal From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 6 07:23:39 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:23:39 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC build available In-Reply-To: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com> References: <109c1c92751.8916172197878447971.3896150943467008073@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <200603061623.39881.fboudra@free.fr> > Hi Developers, > > The exe version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4 RC is available in the following > location http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtiger_CRM_4_2_4RC.exe > > Changes has been made in config.template.php and install/2setConfig.php as > there was execption during installation. > > Regards, > Rajkumar i looked at your changes as there's a related commit today (r4057) and tested installshield based installer. Installation works fine, but there's some mistake like config.template.php is broken. In htdocs\vtigerCRM dir, config.inc.php and config.template are identical. You re-introduced APACHE and MYSQL parameters, to fix installshield based installer : $mysql_dir = 'MYSQLINSTALLDIR'; $mysql_bundled = 'MYSQLBUNDLEDSTATUS'; $apache_dir = 'APACHEINSTALLDIR'; $apache_bin = 'APACHEBIN'; $apache_conf = 'APACHECONF'; $apache_port = 'APACHEPORT'; $apache_bundled = 'APACHEBUNDLED'; Do you continue to provide installshield based installer for future release or as already proposed, switch to vtigercrm addon for xampp (using nsis installer) ? $root_directory and all related dirs (like $cache_dir) are wrong, must be variables. In previous revision, we've got "_VT_*" You re-introduced version in database name: $db_name = 'vtigercrm4_2_4'; i removed it previously, because we didn't need to have a different database name for each release, and if we want a database versioning, please not in database name. Finally, you fixed installshield based installer but source installer is broken. cheers, Fathi PS: i didn't find any zip with the fixes sent to the mailing list. From saint at vtiger.com Mon Mar 6 07:09:44 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:39:44 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440C50B8.6090601@vtiger.com> Sak, I agree. There may be a solution out there. I will look into the usability resources and find out :-) cheers, Saint Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >hi saint, > >I don't have a problem with this, but let me point that this is not a >new experiment. > >for a unknow reasons many humans believe they are the first to do what >they do, but in fact what they are doing has been tryed many moons >ago... and many times has been also analyzed many moons ago... > >it happens to me in programming every time, when I'am confronted with >a problem, my first reaction is "well, I can't be the only one with >this problem, sure this problem has been raised before and solved >before by someone else" >so, instead of wasting my time trying to invent something already >invented, I just focus my energy in searching for the available >solution. >and in my many years of programming I never invented something new :-) > >and this is exactly what I'm trying to tell you, >don't be fooled thinking the problem you face rigth now, is something >new to the usability of web systems. > >you are *not* the first to face this problem, in fact this problem has >been raised, studied and analyzed many time ago (it comes from the >frames era) >and has been the subject of many people specialized in the field of >web usability. > >yes, you can experiment with this problem, I don't have any problem >with that, but what you are doing is nothing new. > > >/sak >ps: "(you lose the top tabs from eye-sight)" this is not a problem, it >happens on almost every site. >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the >whole page. > > >On 3/5/06, Saint wrote: > > >> After watching the thead, we feel, people have different opinions about >>using scrollable DIVs. To find the best answer, let us experiment. >> >> For beta we will give one module with scrollable DIV layout and one module >>with non-div layout. >> >> The Dashboard will retain the scrollable DIVs and will list the graphs in >>2x2 fashion or 4x1 fashion, depending upon the screen resolution. >> >> The At-a-Glance will get treated with non-div layout. This means, in the >>Show All Modules, all 7+ tables will be listed one by one. Though this >>actually leads to more page scrolls (you lose the top tabs from eye-sight) >>it can be rectified with bookmarks to help reaching the page top. Clicking >>the other modules such as Top Potentials, Top Leads etc will list the tables >>of records as usual. >> >> We will release beta with this setup and find the user feedback. Depending >>on the feedback, we will conclude the solution. >> >> So what you guys feel? shall we try this experiment? >> >> - Saint >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Brian Devendorf wrote: >> I agree with sak. With AJAX and modern web browsers, web pages should >>not have a scrolling area within another scrolling area. The issue I >>was mentioning is that the dashboard view is about 1000 x 800 pixels >>(guestimate). This means it looks horrible in smaller windows with >>two scrollbars necessary for navigation. And for managers with a 21" >>screen, they are only able to view the limited 1000 x 800 pixels >>rather than use their entire screen. This may be acceptable for a >>small sub-feature on a page, but not for the main focus of the page. >> >> >>On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >> 1. I don't use IE. >> >>2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the >>vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux). >> >>3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple >>scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that. >> >> >>/sak >> >>On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >> >> Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >> >> saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two >>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one... >> >>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website >>within a website"... >> >>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking >>about... >> >>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept >>of a >>"page" has been broken... >> >>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability, >>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use. >>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that >>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding >>their >>way around a website or finding the content they wanted." >> >>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows, >>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames: >>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html >> >> >>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see >>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I >>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling >>the graph part (which is not what I want) >> >> >>/sak >>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web >>usability. >> >> >> >> I'm sorry but I completely disagree. >> >>Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with >>the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger. You *lose* the >>concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that. >> >>And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't >>scroll >>the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is >>because of >>IE and Windows. This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox >>and in >>Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too). >> >> _______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still >>using your desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the >>AJAX enabled, collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho >>Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your >>desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, >>collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by: Zoho Writer. Are you still using your >>desktop word processor for typing documents? Try the AJAX enabled, >>collaboration-friendly online word processor, Zoho Writer for FREE instead! >>http://zohowriter.com/?vt >> >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060306/134a19fa/attachment-0003.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 11:43:09 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 11:43:09 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtigercrm 4.2.4rc2 build available In-Reply-To: <109d03d4868.1918216477718176054.8073463117345362115@@vtiger.com> References: <109d03d4868.1918216477718176054.8073463117345362115@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <440C90CD.7040809@mikefedyk.com> Posted in forum. Let's see what they find... Philip wrote: > Hi Developers, > > The exe and bin version of vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 is available in the following location > > http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.bin > http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.exe > > Regards, > Philip > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 13:03:54 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:03:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <44080B80.1030507@vtigercrmfrance.org> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the >whole page. > Good. The less printing the better. ;) From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 6 13:16:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:16:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4057 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: config.template.php install/2setConfig.php In-Reply-To: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> First of all, did you even look at the diff before committing?! >Author: saraj >Date: Mon Mar 6 06:20:40 2006 >New Revision: 4057 > >Log: >changes made to support multiple packaging > >Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/config.template.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php > > > Checking differences without reporting white space: diff -uw config.template.php.r4056 config.template.php.r4057 >Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/config.template.php >--- config.template.php.r4056 2006-03-06 12:01:28.000000000 -0800 >+++ config.template.php.r4057 2006-03-06 12:01:40.000000000 -0800 >@@ -1,17 +1,17 @@ > /********************************************************************************* >- * The contents of this file are subject to the SugarCRM Public License Version 1.1.2 >- * ("License"); You may not use this file except in compliance with the >- * License. You may obtain a copy of the License at http://www.sugarcrm.com/SPL >- * Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" basis, >- * WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License for >- * the specific language governing rights and limitations under the License. >- * The Original Code is: SugarCRM Open Source >- * The Initial Developer of the Original Code is SugarCRM, Inc. >- * Portions created by SugarCRM are Copyright (C) SugarCRM, Inc.; >- * All Rights Reserved. >- * Contributor(s): ______________________________________. >-********************************************************************************/ >+3 * The contents of this file are subject to the SugarCRM Public License Version 1.1.2 >+4 * ("License"); You may not use this file except in compliance with the >+5 * License. You may obtain a copy of the License at http://www.sugarcrm.com/SPL >+6 * Software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" basis, >+7 * WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License for >+8 * the specific language governing rights and limitations under the License. >+9 * The Original Code is: SugarCRM Open Source >+10 * The Initial Developer of the Original Code is SugarCRM, Inc. >+11 * Portions created by SugarCRM are Copyright (C) SugarCRM, Inc.; >+12 * All Rights Reserved. >+13 * Contributor(s): ______________________________________. >+14 ********************************************************************************/ > > include('vtigerversion.php'); > >@@ -33,20 +33,30 @@ > $HELPDESK_SUPPORT_NAME = 'your-domain name'; > > /* database configuration >- db_server >- db_port >- db_hostname >- db_username >- db_password >- db_name >-*/ >+36 db_server >+37 db_port >+38 db_hostname >+39 db_username >+40 db_password >+41 db_name >+42 */ >+ $mysql_dir = 'MYSQLINSTALLDIR'; > > Oh goody! We have number prefixes now! > >+ $mysql_bundled = 'MYSQLBUNDLEDSTATUS'; > NO This is not used in the code and if the installer needs it, then have the installer make a file that keeps track of this info (or use the registry). > $dbconfig['db_server'] = '_DBC_SERVER_'; >-$dbconfig['db_port'] = ':_DBC_PORT_'; >-$dbconfig['db_username'] = '_DBC_USER_'; >-$dbconfig['db_password'] = '_DBC_PASS_'; > $dbconfig['db_name'] = '_DBC_NAME_'; > $dbconfig['db_type'] = '_DBC_TYPE_'; >+$apache_dir = 'APACHEINSTALLDIR'; >+$apache_bin = 'APACHEBIN'; >+$apache_conf = 'APACHECONF'; >+$apache_port = 'APACHEPORT'; >+ $apache_bundled = 'APACHEBUNDLED'; > Same here. Don't keep variables used for the installer in the vtiger source. >+ $dbconfig['db_username'] = '_DBC_USER_'; >+ $dbconfig['db_password'] = '_DBC_PASS_'; >+ $dbconfig['db_port'] = ':_DBC_PORT_'; >+ $mysql_username = '_DBC_USER_'; >+ $mysql_password = '_DBC_PASS_'; >+ $mysql_port = '_DBC_PORT_'; > You are now duplicating variables! > > // TODO: test if port is empty > // TODO: set db_hostname dependending on db_type >@@ -78,24 +88,24 @@ > $site_URL = '_SITE_URL_'; > > // root directory path >-$root_directory = '_VT_ROOTDIR_'; >+ $root_directory = 'C:\Program Files\vtigerCRM4.2.4\apache\htdocs\vtigerCRM/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // cache direcory path >-$cache_dir = '_VT_CACHEDIR_'; >+ $cache_dir = 'cache/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // tmp_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = images/ >-$tmp_dir = '_VT_TMPDIR_'; >+ $tmp_dir = 'cache/images/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // import_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = import/ >-$import_dir = '_VT_IMPORTDIR_'; >+ $import_dir = 'cache/import/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // upload_dir default value prepended by cache_dir = upload/ >-$upload_dir = '_VT_UPLOADDIR_'; >+ $upload_dir = 'cache/upload/'; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. > > // mail server parameters >-$mail_server = '_MAIL_SERVER_'; >-$mail_server_username = '_MAIL_USERNAME_'; >-$mail_server_password = '_MAIL_PASSWORD_'; >+ $mail_server = ''; >+ $mail_server_username = ''; >+ $mail_server_password = ''; > > Bad. This change should be in config.inc.php and should be done at install time, not installer creation time. >Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php >============================================================================== >--- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php (original) >+++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/2setConfig.php Mon Mar 6 06:20:40 2006 >@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ > $cache_dir = "cache/"; > > if (is_file("config.php") && is_file("config.inc.php")) { >- require_once("config.php"); >+ require_once("config.template.php"); > > Bad. config.template.php is not meant to be called from the code. It is only used by the installer. > session_start(); > > if(isset($upload_maxsize)) >@@ -100,10 +100,10 @@ > > if (isset($_REQUEST['db_name'])) > $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; >- elseif (isset($dbconfig['db_name'])) >+ elseif (isset($dbconfig['db_name']) && $dbconfig['db_name']!='_DBC_NAME_') > > Bad. The keywords are supposed to be replaced by the installer by search and replace. > $db_name = $dbconfig['db_name']; > else >- $db_name = 'vtigercrm'; >+ $db_name = 'vtigercrm4_2_4'; > > Bad. I see no reason to have the version in the database name. > > !isset($_REQUEST['db_drop_tables']) ? $db_drop_tables = "0" : $db_drop_tables = $_REQUEST['db_drop_tables']; > >@@ -143,7 +143,7 @@ > !isset($_REQUEST['db_username']) ? $db_username = $mysql_username : $db_username = $_REQUEST['db_username']; > !isset($_REQUEST['db_password']) ? $db_password= $mysql_password : $db_password = $_REQUEST['db_password']; > */ >- !isset($_REQUEST['db_name']) ? $db_name = "vtigercrm" : $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; >+ !isset($_REQUEST['db_name']) ? $db_name = "vtigercrm4_2_4" : $db_name = $_REQUEST['db_name']; > > Bad. I see no reason to have the version in the database name. From larenas at internext.com.mx Tue Mar 7 03:36:00 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:36:00 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4057 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: config.template.php install/2setConfig.php In-Reply-To: <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> References: <20060306132045.86D974AD3EF@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <440CA6AB.2000600@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <440D7020.8060308@internext.com.mx> Hi, somebody can help me, I dont know how register a deliver, i just can register accounts, customers, etc. From jamieinnh at gmail.com Tue Mar 7 13:18:04 2006 From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:18:04 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised In-Reply-To: <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> References: <440808E8.6010707@vtiger.com> <49216030603030719ld708d4fo1c4b69192754d637@mail.gmail.com> <44089749.6060804@vtiger.com> <49216030603031236r6d8da0a1i8be74820b193911d@mail.gmail.com> <440934A1.705@mikefedyk.com> <49216030603040708j328e0ca8md5aaf21697fefbd8@mail.gmail.com> <39BD25ED-4DA8-4783-B71E-965FE54BCE41@infointegrated.com> <440A9DFB.1080602@vtiger.com> <49216030603060529p1482a65du53edb8782205dd44@mail.gmail.com> <440CA3BA.5090300@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <994473020603071318h574b9df2g6ff89ece94324e02@mail.gmail.com> Here is an example in real life how a scroll bar within a browser, and how it distracts from the UI of the article. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11485858/ Something like this are things we should avoid when thinking about the UI in vTiger Jamie On 3/6/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > >ps2: with a scrollable div, you also broke printing, I can't print the > >whole page. > > > Good. The less printing the better. ;) > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Le Mercredi 8 Mars 2006 16:37, vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com a ?crit : > Author: saraj > Date: Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 2006 > New Revision: 4079 > > Log: > changes made to point to install.php after installation > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php > =========================================================================== >=== --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/index.php Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 2006 > @@ -356,7 +356,7 @@ > } > > require_once('config.inc.php'); > -if (!isset($dbconfig['db_hostname'])) { > +if (!isset($dbconfig['db_hostname']) || > $dbconfig['db_status']=='_DB_STAT_') { header("Location: install.php"); > exit(); > } > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php > =========================================================================== >=== --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php (original) +++ > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/install/4createConfigFile.php Wed Mar 8 08:37:33 > 2006 @@ -158,6 +158,7 @@ > $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_SERVER_", $mail_server, $buffer); > $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_USERNAME_", $mail_server_username, > $buffer); $buffer = str_replace( "_MAIL_PASSWORD_", $mail_server_password, > $buffer); + $buffer = str_replace( "_DB_STAT_", "true", $buffer); > > fwrite($includeHandle, $buffer); > } > > > _______________________________________________ > vtigercrm-commits mailing list > vtigercrm-commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > http://lists.vtigercrm.com/mailman/listinfo/vtigercrm-commits From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 8 09:47:33 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:47:33 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please add me to your developer list In-Reply-To: <200603081506.k28F627L016309@vtigerforge.com> References: <200603081506.k28F627L016309@vtigerforge.com> Message-ID: <440F18B5.1040700@mikefedyk.com> You need to go to http://lists.vtigercrm.com to subscribe to the list. We can't do it for you. Information Team wrote: >Please add me to your developer list > >Many thanks > >Gary Mitchell > > > > >Phone: +44 (0) 870 490 1261 >Fax: +44 (0)871 661 7137 >Email: info at everydaysolutions.co.uk >Web: www.everydaysolutions.co.uk > >The information contained in this document is privileged information and is >intended for the personal and confidential use of the addressee only. If you >are not the intended recipient, any review, distribution or copying of this >document is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately and >delete the document from all computer systems. All title copyrights and >intellectual property rights in and attached to this email their content and >any copies thereof are owned by Everyday Solutions. All rights not >expressly granted are reserved by Everyday Solutions. > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From larenas at internext.com.mx Wed Mar 8 04:57:10 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:57:10 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME Message-ID: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers nothing. Help please. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 8 12:29:04 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:29:04 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> References: <440ED4A6.6020904@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <440F3E90.2080000@mikefedyk.com> Does this patch fix the problem? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers >nothing. > >Help please. >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From philip at vtiger.com Wed Mar 8 10:18:51 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:18:51 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Updated rc2 version - installation issues fixed Message-ID: <109db152c88.-8674574812899896242.64192681946233716@@vtiger.com> Hi Developers, The updated versions of exe and bin for vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 is available in the following location, installation fixes has been incorporated in the updated builds http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.bin http://www.vtiger.com/archives/424/vtigercrm-4.2.4rc2.exe Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just call "php install.php" to do the database population and you're done. I also told Philip to copy config.template.php to config.inc.php thinking he was going to replace all keywords during the exe/bin installation so as soon as the exe/bin installer is finished,you can login to vtiger. But if you want to have the config.template.php file changed instead that's fine. -------------------------- final words, if you use source installer to finish installation, you can use the method "patch template". If you bypass source installer, i agree with mike, you can copy template to inc and do your add-in on it. 2 differents solutions to same problem. i'm for the solution where you do all installation stuff in installer without using source installer in "3rd party" package (i mean not source installer). cheers, Fathi From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Wed Mar 8 15:50:25 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 23:50:25 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Removing crmentity Message-ID: <86f04e340603081550j7072ebf1t8ca904480dc5a526@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, To delete one crmentity in vtiger php pages, it is "update crmentity set deleted = 1 where...", marking it as deleted (mark_deleted method) and all relationships: recurringevent, activity_reminder, ... are "delete from ...". (Delete.php in each module) But in vtigerolservice.php (vtiger5) the activities are only marked as deleted!... How about relationships ? My question is: why this kind of operations aren't centralized in entity class ? Create, Retrieve, Update, Delete... Best Regards, Juao -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060308/276a7f5c/attachment-0003.html From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 9 04:18:27 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:18:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 Message-ID: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> Hi, Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Our feedback aren't listened ... just an example : database name versioning Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. we change/ you change game isn't funny ... best regards, Fathi From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 06:46:58 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:46:58 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 In-Reply-To: <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> References: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> Don't worry about it fathi. The binary installers never worked for shit before, and why should that change? There is a reason why I have recommended to everyone to use XAMPP 1.4.15 in the forums. Once we replace binary the installers this problem will be solved. Mike Fathi Boudra wrote: >>Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. >> >> > >Our feedback aren't listened ... >just an example : database name versioning > >Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. > >we change/ you change game isn't funny ... > >best regards, > >Fathi >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From andre at dreamlab.net Thu Mar 9 07:10:49 2006 From: andre at dreamlab.net (Andre Roth) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:10:49 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP Message-ID: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? Where can I find documentation about this ? Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on line 530 Thanks for your help Andr? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 09:19:23 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:19:23 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 In-Reply-To: <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> References: <109def19556.1701169505800263107.-7432113442450855869@@vtiger.com> <200603091409.36343.fboudra@free.fr> <44103FE2.8090009@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <4410639B.1000105@mikefedyk.com> Hi everyone, Richie and I have discussed this issue, and agreed to spread this out over 4.2.4 and 4.2.5. A lot has been changed in the binary installers in a short time (including the build system to SVN) so I'm willing to accept it the way it is for the 4.2.4 release as long as everything works on all sides. That includes, the source installer, ubuntu/debian installer and linux/windows bin/exe installer. I think that is possible with the changes that have been made so far. Correct me if that isn't the case. After that we can spend the next ~4 weeks getting it ready for the 4.2.5 release. I hope we can all agree on this. I'm planning on making an 4.2.4rc3 release in the next few days with any installer fixes that are required, so any help in testing the installers for these previous states during install would be much appreciated. case1: no previous installation of mysql or apache. case2: no previous installation of mysql but apache is already installed. case3: previous installation of mysql but apache is not installed. case4: both apache and mysql already installed. Mike Mike Fedyk wrote: >Don't worry about it fathi. The binary installers never worked for shit >before, and why should that change? There is a reason why I have >recommended to everyone to use XAMPP 1.4.15 in the forums. Once we >replace binary the installers this problem will be solved. > >Mike > >Fathi Boudra wrote: > > > >>>Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Our feedback aren't listened ... >>just an example : database name versioning >> >>Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. >> >>we change/ you change game isn't funny ... >> >>best regards, >> >>Fathi >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From andre.roth at dreamlab.net Thu Mar 9 07:08:11 2006 From: andre.roth at dreamlab.net (Andre Roth) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:08:11 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP Message-ID: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? Where can I find documentation about this ? Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on line 530 Thanks for your help Andr? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060309/0d675a9a/attachment-0003.bin From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 9 09:36:59 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (Philip) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:36:59 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Feedback on 4.2.4rc2 Message-ID: <109e015334f.-3220625800868453815.-2820986651640595013@@vtiger.com> Hi, I thought i have discussed about the feedback over the chat. Please see my reply below. Regarding Installation using bin or exe the database and apacheparameters are populated in the config.inc.php, the config.template.phpfile is not disturbed at any time. Copying config.template.php toconfig.inc.php and replacing all keywords during the exe/bininstallation has been handled. Other feedbacks which includes changing the hardcorded db values, andthe versioning were not taken up in this version as we are not sureabout the consequence and the impacts in changing the existing setup,but can be taken up with 4.2.5 after having a series of testing. Regards, Philip >Do try vtigerCRM 4.2.4rc2 and post your feedbacks to the list. Our feedback aren't listened ... just an example : database name versioning Also, no reply to our posts related to installer. we change/ you change game isn't funny ... best regards, Fathi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060309/2cda1fcb/attachment-0003.html From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 04:15:33 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:15:33 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME PLEASE Message-ID: <44101C65.3020403@internext.com.mx> I had ploblems with quotes module, but i resolve it changing save.php file, but when i do it some other problems appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *445* From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 11:48:06 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:48:06 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME PLEASE In-Reply-To: <44101C65.3020403@internext.com.mx> References: <44101C65.3020403@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <44108676.3010609@mikefedyk.com> What changes did you make (post the section of code you changed or make a diff with winmerge)? Did you try the changes I referenced to in your other post? Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >I had ploblems with quotes module, but i resolve it changing save.php >file, but when i do it some other problems appears: > >*Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in >*/var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *445* >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 07:54:36 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:54:36 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module Message-ID: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> well, i try to say you what's my problem 1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. 2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you help me? * From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 15:02:41 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:02:41 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module In-Reply-To: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> References: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4410B411.3010100@mikefedyk.com> Sorry, I can't help you until you post the changes you made. Did you try the patch I pointed out to you? Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >well, i try to say you what's my problem > >1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it >not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. > >2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message >appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in >*/var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 > >i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you >help me? >* >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 08:30:23 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:30:23 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] More Information for my problem Message-ID: <4410581F.7040006@internext.com.mx> The error that happen is in the next function: **********************Function in data/PearDatabase.php********************** function query_result(&$result, $row, $col=0) { //$this->println("ADODB query_result r=".$row." c=".$col); not exist-------> $result->Move($row); $rowdata = $this->change_key_case($result->FetchRow()); //$this->println($rowdata); $coldata = $rowdata[$col]; //$this->println("ADODB query_result ". $coldata); return $coldata; } From larenas at internext.com.mx Thu Mar 9 08:47:51 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:47:51 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I send you the image of my problem Message-ID: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> Please see the image and help me -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: error.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 144307 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060309/1eb55079/attachment-0003.jpe From dan.means at teamsrs.com Thu Mar 9 16:34:04 2006 From: dan.means at teamsrs.com (Dan Means) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:34:04 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Problem with quote module In-Reply-To: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> References: <44104FBC.9050408@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4410C97C.1000704@teamsrs.com> Your problem is most likely in your changes to the save.php module -- you need to post your mods. Most likely, you've got a problem in the sql syntax in the save.php module. I had to make some changes in the "savesalesorder" version. If you added a new field/column, you have to fix your insert to explicitly create the values for each column name & values. Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > well, i try to say you what's my problem > > 1.- First. I had problem with quote module, when i save a new quote, it > not appears, the solution was change a save.php file of it module. > > 2.- After this change, when i try view the quote module this message > appears: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in > */var/www/vtiger_crm/include/database/PearDatabase.php* on line *444 > > i review all file, and are identical, i dont know that happen, can you > help me? > * > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > -- Dan Means Mission Viejo, CA www.dkmeansonline.com www.teamsrs.com From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Thu Mar 9 16:34:29 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:34:29 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP In-Reply-To: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060309160811.5e6c00be@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4410C995.90109@mikefedyk.com> I don't think that is a very popular mod you're trying. Can you post the changes you have done and your environment like PHP, MySQL version, etc. Mike Andre Roth wrote: >Hello, > >I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. > >Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? >Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? >Where can I find documentation about this ? >Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? > >I managed to get the required files, but when login in, I get: > >Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object >in /.../vtiger/include/database/PearDatabase.php on >line 530 > > >Thanks for your help > > Andr? > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From libregeek at gmail.com Thu Mar 9 21:52:51 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:22:51 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LDAP In-Reply-To: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060309161049.2ed2656d@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <2315046d0603092152y4e25f7ccv@mail.gmail.com> On 09/03/06, Andre Roth wrote: > > Hello, > > I need some help setting up vtiger with LDAP as user backend. > > Which release is recommended for an LDAP setup ? > Why is only half of the patch in version 5.0 ? > Where can I find documentation about this ? > Has anyone a working LDAP setup ? I followed the steps given below and it's working fine. http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=1689 regards Manilal From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Thu Mar 9 23:52:54 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:52:54 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I send you the image of my problem In-Reply-To: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> References: <44105C37.4070700@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <1141977175.5698.8.camel@linux.site> Just my 2 cents, this list is called vtigercrm-developpers. For free support you have vtiger forum. For enterprise class support you can contact vtiger. For Quotes, this is a tips, you can't create Quotes before having created a potential, no need to change save.php. May be your problem is more complex than explain, use the forum, you can have more answer. Thanks, Aissa Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 ? 17:47 +0100, Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas a ?crit : > Please see the image and help me > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From richie at vtiger.com Fri Mar 10 01:59:56 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:59:56 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Need volunteers for integrating 4.2.4 onwards fixes into 5.0 Message-ID: <109e3991dc8.5278160118441625590.4984050560728575825@@vtiger.com> Hello! I need help in porting the fixes from 4.2.4 onwards to 5.0. Those interested please let me know. To integrate the fixes means to peruse through all the changesets and pickup those that are required. This will basically mean that we have to go through n number of changesets. I am willing to listen to any smart ways to go ahead with this process. Please pitch in for help. Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060310/006a131a/attachment-0003.html From mickie at vtiger.com Fri Mar 10 02:57:19 2006 From: mickie at vtiger.com (Mickie) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:57:19 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger Message-ID: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> Dear Team, I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 Migration with your help. so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration(Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 youcan see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so thiswill need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know ifyou have any other ideas to do this migration. In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to testthe migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2and for the new migration script). Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. Thanks & Regards Mickie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mickie wrote: > Dear Team, > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > Migration with your help. > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sat Mar 11 09:32:57 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:32:57 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <200603042027.08372.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Is somebody working on Image Graph? I have started some writing on Graph.php basis, here is a first result : It doesn't seem so much difficult to migrate, but documentation is very poor. So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be useful. TIA Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060311/984c3867/attachment-0003.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be > useful. > > TIA > > Michel > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sat Mar 11 20:27:28 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:27:28 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph In-Reply-To: <44134378.7070000@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Yes I do. There will be probably some minor changes in graph appearance but it can be done. What I have done on leads by sales stage graph does not require to change algorithm so it can be fast. Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk > Envoy??: samedi 11 mars 2006 22:39 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Very important question about JpGraph > > This is great Michel! > > Do you think this can be done for all graphs in vtiger in the next few > weeks? If so we may be able to get this into 4.2.5. > > Mike > > Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > > > Is somebody working on Image Graph? > > > > I have started some writing on Graph.php basis, here is a first result : > > > > It doesn?t seem so much difficult to migrate, but documentation is > > very poor. So if somebody has some feedback to exchange it could be > > useful. > > > > TIA > > > > Michel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sun Mar 12 22:27:13 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:27:13 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph Message-ID: Hi all, I think that result is not so bad on pipeline by sales stage, so . You cannot see it on the picture but targets and alts are working. Remaining 2 minor problems for which I have not been able to find a solution : The ticks on category axis cannot be placed correctly Not able to avoid grid lines to be foreground I will document the code as soon I release the replacing Charts.php. Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/da6a166e/attachment-0003.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Anand From wildfire at progsoc.org Sun Mar 12 17:49:05 2006 From: wildfire at progsoc.org (Anand Kumria) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:49:05 +1100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] list not moderated References: <40110.3757824332$1141024115@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:08:05 -0800, Richie wrote: > Dear Team, > > The mailing list is not moderated anymore. > The moderation was removed quite a long time ago. Well the mailing list certainly claims to be at the moment. Anand From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 01:02:25 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:02:25 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] list not moderated In-Reply-To: References: <40110.3757824332$1141024115@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: <44153521.7030801@mikefedyk.com> Anand Kumria wrote: >On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:08:05 -0800, Richie wrote: > > > >>Dear Team, >> >>The mailing list is not moderated anymore. >>The moderation was removed quite a long time ago. >> >> > >Well the mailing list certainly claims to be at the moment. > > There is a list of people who can post unmoderated. Everyone else is moderated. Be good and you'll be added to the unmoderated list. ;) From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 13 01:20:16 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:20:16 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] repository location? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603131020.17105.fboudra@free.fr> > Hi, hi > According to and > subsequently , the > repository is available via Sourceforge CVS. > > Indeed, looking through the Sourceforge CVS browser you can see changes > made ~11 days ago for the 5.0 Alpha 2 release. > However according to various posts on this mailing list, information on > the repository is available from > . > Which one is correct? I'd certainly appreciate it if someone could fixup > the initial links if they are incorrect. Are they seperate trees? If so, > what is the relationship between them? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage is the correct one. cheers, Fathi From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 01:06:52 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:06:52 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] repository location? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4415362C.8010502@mikefedyk.com> We switched to SVN a few weeks ago. Use that. We're waiting for the vtiger core team to make some changes to the backend of vtiger.com before the wiki can be cleaned up. Anand Kumria wrote: >Hi, > >According to and >subsequently , the >repository is available via Sourceforge CVS. > >Indeed, looking through the Sourceforge CVS browser you can see changes >made ~11 days ago for the 5.0 Alpha 2 release. > >However according to various posts on this mailing list, information on >the repository is available from >. > >Which one is correct? I'd certainly appreciate it if someone could fixup >the initial links if they are incorrect. Are they seperate trees? If so, >what is the relationship between them? > >Thanks, >Anand > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From fboudra at free.fr Mon Mar 13 01:31:29 2006 From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:31:29 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Le Lundi 13 Mars 2006 07:27, Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit : > Hi all, hi michel > I think that result is not so bad on pipeline by sales stage, so . > You cannot see it on the picture but targets and alts are working. > Remaining 2 minor problems for which I have not been able to find a > solution > The ticks on category axis cannot be placed correctly > Not able to avoid grid lines to be foreground > I will document the code as soon I release the replacing Charts.php. i don't know if that can help you, this project use image_graph, and can be a source example : http://secureideas.sourceforge.net cheers, Fathi From mickie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 13 01:41:24 2006 From: mickie at vtiger.com (Mickie) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:41:24 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger In-Reply-To: <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> References: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <109f2fb3d66.-339647440922358887.-7786347594590860361@@vtiger.com> Hi Mike, Thanks for your suggestions. i agree. This sugar migration script should go into vtigerforge or cvs. we will checkin these files ASAP. Regarding the integration with import functions, as of now we canimport any other systems data through import option if that data is inCSV file. Generalizing the migration process means whether we want make thismigration script as general to all systems? how is this possible? Please excuse me if i am wrong and let me know some more informations. Thanks & Regards Mickie ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ---- Hi Mickie, I think this should either go into the vtigerforge or in the main source base. Maybe we should integrate this with the import functions. That would help with generalizing the migration process and allow migration from other systems than sugar also. Mickie wrote: > Dear Team, > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > Migration with your help. > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/787d9465/attachment-0003.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 02:00:46 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:00:46 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Volunteers can help to made migration script for latest Sugar (Open) to vtiger In-Reply-To: <109f2fb3d66.-339647440922358887.-7786347594590860361@@vtiger.com> References: <109e3cda9d5.-1047467299168354628.-8421703111302218655@@vtiger.com> <44118C94.7090306@mikefedyk.com> <109f2fb3d66.-339647440922358887.-7786347594590860361@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <441542CE.7000900@mikefedyk.com> How do you import notes from csv? Mickie wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Thanks for your suggestions. > i agree. This sugar migration script should go into vtigerforge or > cvs. we will checkin these files ASAP. > > Regarding the integration with import functions, as of now we can > import any other systems data through import option if that data is in > CSV file. > Generalizing the migration process means whether we want make this > migration script as general to all systems? how is this possible? > Please excuse me if i am wrong and let me know some more informations. > > Thanks & Regards > Mickie > > > > ----mfedyk at mikefedyk.com wrote ---- > > Hi Mickie, > > I think this should either go into the vtigerforge or in the main source > base. > > Maybe we should integrate this with the import functions. That would > help with generalizing the migration process and allow migration from > other systems than sugar also. > > Mickie wrote: > > > Dear Team, > > > > I have a plan to take up Latest Sugar (4.0.1 c) to vtiger 4.2.3 > > Migration with your help. > > so please let me know if you are interested in doing this migration > > (Already we have the migration script for Sugar 3.5 to vtiger 4.2 you > > can see this in http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3300) so this > > will need some changes in the existing script. Please let me know if > > you have any other ideas to do this migration. > > > > In the mean time i need help from some of our community friends to > > test the migration script (for previous script from Sugar 3.5 to > > vtiger 4.2 and for the new migration script). > > > > Please make your suggestions here. Awaiting your reply. > > Thanks & Regards > > Mickie > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com Mon Mar 13 05:18:08 2006 From: mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com (Mike Crowe) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:18:08 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? Message-ID: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> Hi folks, I had finally had it, so I used phpCodeBeautifier to reformat all of the source in 4.2.4 and I'm very pleased. (http://www.waterproof.fr/products/phpCodeBeautifier/). However, as imagined, diff's are now screwed up, mainly because of 1 issue: I like: if ( blah, blah ) { /// } I can only get phpCB to do: if ( blah, blah ) { //// } I've attached main index.php for you to see. Are you interested in applying to trunk? Cheers! Mike Yahoo: mikecrowe MSNM: mike at mikeandkellycrowe.com Gmail: drmikecrowe at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Are you interested in > applying to trunk? seconded, not perfect but do a great job. we can probably change slightly formating rules to do add extra space after else statement ? : }elseif ( }else{ and if it's ok for all, update : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/CodingStyle according to phpcodebeautifier. From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 13 07:25:07 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:25:07 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi Fathi, Thanks a lot, I will have a look on it but I think that I have got some knowledge on Image Graph ans that I am going faster enough (here is the second one) : Half of the way done! Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra > Envoy? : lundi 13 mars 2006 10:31 > ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph > > hi michel > > i don't know if that can help you, this project use image_graph, and can > be a > source example : http://secureideas.sourceforge.net > > cheers, > > Fathi > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please feel free to pitch in your views. a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two different beasts. Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. To briefly mention our status over here :- We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we write, I will be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to integrate the required UIs esp that of the Security module. Kindly put forward your views so that together, we can make vtiger crm a better product, a better experience. Thank You, Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Additionally, there's the pain point of ensuring the PostgreSQL fixes don't break the existing MySQL support. If you have any recommendations around how you would like this to play out, please let me know. I have some time coming up where I could assist. Mike, let us know what you're thoughts are and we can proceed from there. Ideally, I think we should make the changes in one fell-swoop so that they're pulled into the mainline branch right away. Is there a window of 3 days, say 2 weeks from now, where we could do this? Regards, - Joel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those relationships from database. IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some other issues came up...). Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other modules are affected too... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Does this patch fix the problem? > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 > > Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > > >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > > > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers > >nothing. > > > >Help please. > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice > there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 > of the following issues: > > * Undeclared variables > * Include headers reference files that don't exist > * Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > > Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean > this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a > profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance > out of it. > > Regards, > > - Joel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/877b0e22/attachment-0005.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 12:27:14 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:27:14 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415D5A2.3020407@mikefedyk.com> As soon as 4.2.4 releases, there will be a branch created for postgres support. 4.2.5 will move along, (I'm planning on one release per month) and the parts ready in the postgres branch will be merged. This avoids hurrying the postgres support and doesn't delay 4.2.5 if things don't go as planned. Mike Joel Rydbeck wrote: >Mike / Allan / Jeff, > >My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > >1. Allan has some major changes that will probably need to be checked in (last I saw was a delta for the 4.2.4 release). >2. I'd like to go through and make sure everything else is working. There are some nuances like quotation marks, and odd-spacing that break the SQL standard and thus PostgreSQL. >3. Jeff may be on-board for testing the PG side, but I haven't spoken with him for awhile. >4. Additionally, there's the pain point of ensuring the PostgreSQL fixes don't break the existing MySQL support. If you have any recommendations around how you would like this to play out, please let me know. I have some time coming up where I could assist. > >Mike, let us know what you're thoughts are and we can proceed from there. Ideally, I think we should make the changes in one fell-swoop so that they're pulled into the mainline branch right away. Is there a window of 3 days, say 2 weeks from now, where we could do this? > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 12:34:15 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:34:15 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when we're not preparing for a release.. Mike Joel Rydbeck wrote: >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 of the following issues: > >* Undeclared variables >* Include headers reference files that don't exist >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance out of it. > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 13:16:54 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:16:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> Someone on the forums addressed a bunch of the notice errors (sorry I don't recall who). I think most of the changes made it into 4.2.2 but I could be mistaken. Surprisingly (to me at least) cleaning up the notice errors offered a substantial speed increase. On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php > is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is > to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. > > I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when > we're not preparing for a release.. > > Mike > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc results in 5-20 of the following issues: > > > >* Undeclared variables > >* Include headers reference files that don't exist > >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe items > > > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance out of it. > > > >Regards, > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From arodes at onweald.com Mon Mar 13 13:17:57 2006 From: arodes at onweald.com (Andrew Rodes) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:17:57 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603131149m50f51515oa6097d05f993a020@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> Try the patch with http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/51 I basically implemented the solution recommended a few weeks ago and submitted the patch with tic #51. I noticed that it appears this patch has not been rolled into the working branch at http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2/, but im not totally sure where the current release candidate code is. anyway .. try this patch and let us know what you found. In my testing, Quotes appeared to start working. during my testing with that patch. Also, I submitted bug 48, which I think may have a similar root cause as 51, but i have not had time to implement a fix. Andy Rodes Onweald _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Joao Oliveira Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:50 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME Hello, I've doing some tests today in vtiger, and quotes still doesn't work. The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those relationships from database. IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some other issues came up...). Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other modules are affected too... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: Does this patch fix the problem? http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers >nothing. > >Help please. >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/33b07741/attachment-0003.html From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 13:25:02 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:25:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? In-Reply-To: <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> I'd love to see the code reformatted. I agree with phpCB though it should be: if ( blah, blah ) { //// } ;p Anything that's consistent would be great though. The problem of course is you kind of mess up the repository checking in a bunch of changes like that. If it was done first thing after the 4.2.4 release it shouldn't effect anyone working off of SVN too badly but it would make patches created by users using the release more difficult to integrate. On 3/13/06, Fathi Boudra wrote: > > I've attached main index.php for you to see. Are you interested in > > applying to trunk? > > seconded, not perfect but do a great job. > > we can probably change slightly formating rules to do add extra space after > else statement ? : > }elseif ( > }else{ > > and if it's ok for all, update : > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/CodingStyle > > according to phpcodebeautifier. > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 13:39:41 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:39:41 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Code errors/profiling In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415D747.3080900@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131316o4aceb39aq1f772ad41077949b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86f04e340603131339t4928ae36o2f034d2b0d48e4e@mail.gmail.com> i think it was Terry (aka tigerincanada) in this topic http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3529 On 3/13/06, Allan Bush wrote: > > Someone on the forums addressed a bunch of the notice errors (sorry I > don't recall who). I think most of the changes made it into 4.2.2 but > I could be mistaken. Surprisingly (to me at least) cleaning up the > notice errors offered a substantial speed increase. > > On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Yes I've noticed this also, but don't use zend studio. By default php > > is normally configured to hide notices, so one way to find the issues is > > to run with php reporting notices instead of just warnings. > > > > I'll take any patches that help clean up these issues. At least when > > we're not preparing for a release.. > > > > Mike > > > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > > > >I've been using Zend Studio to do a lot of my development lately > --mainly because it has a solid debugger. Whenever I run a debug on vtiger, > I notice there are a lot of issues. Roughly every view/form post/etc > results in 5-20 of the following issues: > > > > > >* Undeclared variables > > >* Include headers reference files that don't exist > > >* Errors ranging from invalid type assignments to more severe > items > > > > > >Is there something we could put in the release process that would clean > this up? Does anyone else use Zend Studio? Any interest? I haven't run a > profiler on the app yet, but I'm guessing we could squeeze some performance > out of it. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/067b256c/attachment-0005.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 13:57:36 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:57:36 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4415EAD0.3050709@mikefedyk.com> Allan Bush wrote: >I'd love to see the code reformatted. I agree with phpCB though it should be: > >if ( blah, blah ) { > //// >} > > >;p > > I like that formatting also, as long as it is with *tabs not spaces*. >Anything that's consistent would be great though. The problem of >course is you kind of mess up the repository checking in a bunch of >changes like that. If it was done first thing after the 4.2.4 release >it shouldn't effect anyone working off of SVN too badly but it would >make patches created by users using the release more difficult to >integrate. > I'd be willing to take formatting fixes on a per-file basis as long as the actual patch that does the reformatting doesn't included any non-formatting changes. I think reformatting the entire source tree would be a bad step at this point. But if you are making changes in a certain area, submit a formatting fix patch for that area and I'll take it. Mike From larenas at internext.com.mx Mon Mar 13 07:23:11 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:23:11 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! Message-ID: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> I can't create a sales order from quote registry, if i try create sale order in quotes view, i can view the order created but i can't save it. My version of vtiger: *Version: * 4.2 GA Mysql : 4.1 PHP: 4 APACHE: 2 an other question can you say me the url for csv stage 2? Thanks. From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 14:27:34 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:27:34 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME In-Reply-To: <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> References: <86f04e340603131149m50f51515oa6097d05f993a020@mail.gmail.com> <010f01c646e3$99db3b80$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> Message-ID: <86f04e340603131427y48e20b48w6f941e633f6330e5@mail.gmail.com> Hello Andrew, With that patch I've successfully insert one quote in database. Thus, when i go to Quotes ListView php came up with the following error: *Fatal error*: Call to a member function on a non-object in * c:\inetpub\wwwroot\vtiger42\include\database\PearDatabase.php* on line *440 *The error happens in line 3146 of include/utils.php: ---- elseif($module == 'Quotes' && $name == 'Potential Name') { $potential_id = $adb->query_result($list_result,$i-1,"potentialid"); $potential_name = getPotentialName($potential_id); $value = ''.$potential_name.''; } ---- When vtiger try to call getPotentialName() and potentialid passed is null. This kind of troubles start to came up when we pass from '' to null... Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira. On 3/13/06, Andrew Rodes wrote: > > Try the patch with http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/51 > > I basically implemented the solution recommended a few weeks ago and > submitted the patch with tic #51. I noticed that it appears this patch has > not been rolled into the working branch at > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2/, but im not > totally sure where the current release candidate code is. > > anyway .. try this patch and let us know what you found. In my testing, > Quotes appeared to start working. during my testing with that patch. > Also, I submitted bug 48, which I think may have a similar root cause as > 51, but i have not had time to implement a fix. > > > Andy Rodes > Onweald > > ------------------------------ > *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto: > vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *On Behalf Of *Joao > Oliveira > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2006 1:50 PM > *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELPME > > Hello, > > I've doing some tests today in vtiger, and quotes still doesn't work. > > The problem is here, and only occurs with mysql 4.1 or greater: > > insert into quotes (quoteid, subject, potentialid, quotestage, validtill, > team, contactid, carrier, subtotal, shipping, inventorymanager, tax, > adjustment, total, accountid, terms_conditions) > values(129, 'rtyuy', '', 'Created', '2006-03-13', '', '', 'FedEx', '', '', > 1, 0, 0, '', 1, '') > > when we want to create a quote without potentialid and/or contactid, the > generated SQL inputs '' as value for this fields. > > It seems that this issue was fixed in vtiger5 by deleting those > relationships from database. > IMHO, this isn't the best way. The sql query should be changed in order to > insert NULL values in those relationships, like L?o had post > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=3185 (But with that patch, some > other issues came up...). > > Note that orders have the same problem, and is possible that also other > modules are affected too... > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira > > On 3/8/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > > Does this patch fix the problem? > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/48 > > > > Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > > > > >Some body knows if there is a bug in quotes modules. > > > > > >That happen is, when i save my queote, in the next window dont appers > > >nothing. > > > > > >Help please. > > >_______________________________________________ > > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060313/e42168f8/attachment-0003.html From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 14:50:46 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:50:46 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: Joel Rydbeck wrote: > Mike / Allan / Jeff, > > My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > would work best from a timeline for making the changes? The original idea was to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production instance on mysql. I propose the following: - Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough assent, IMO. - I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. - As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. Thoughts? From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 15:00:37 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:00:37 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! In-Reply-To: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> References: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <4415F995.3050906@mikefedyk.com> I suggest you look at the name of this list. You have been referred to patches that will help solve the bug you are encountering. This is the area for competent developers. We will point you in the right direction but not do the work for free. If you can't apply a patch, then I suggest you contact one of us privately for paid support and/or hosting. Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: >I can't create a sales order from quote registry, if i try create sale >order in quotes view, i can view the order created but i can't save it. > >My version of vtiger: *Version: * 4.2 GA >Mysql : 4.1 >PHP: 4 >APACHE: 2 > >an other question can you say me the url for csv stage 2? > >Thanks. > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 15:04:34 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:04:34 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4415FA82.50108@mikefedyk.com> I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. Mike Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >> >>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >> >> > >The original idea was to keep >vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it >could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >instance on mysql. > >I propose the following: > >- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >assent, IMO. > >- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in >sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity >of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity >on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. > >- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap >into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >Thoughts? > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 15:01:49 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:01:49 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Reformatting vtiger source? References: <1142255888.723.9.camel@mcrowe-laptop.mikeandkellycrowe.com> <200603131438.59973.fboudra@free.fr> <3bec26390603131325i59ccac15mc29e484cbc8a05b0@mail.gmail.com> <4415EAD0.3050709@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > I think reformatting the entire source tree would be a bad step at this > point. Several subversion books have concurred that wholesale code beautification is a problem for concurrent developers, and historical diff viewing. The checkin is cake for the beautifier, but the next update/merge is hell for everyone with modified checkouts planning checkins of their own. The only way to mitigate is to announce a code freeze on a certain section of the repository, and ask that everyone clear out their working copies of queued commits. It should also happen at a low point of commit activity. I think our best opportunity would be to beautify *both* vtigercrm/trunk and vtigercrm/branches/4.2 right before the forward-port of 4.2 fixes to the trunk (testing to see that nothing has broken on either, of course). > I'd be willing to take formatting fixes on a per-file basis as long as > the actual patch that does the reformatting doesn't included any > non-formatting changes. Yes, per-file is probably the biggest whitespace cleanup chunk you can expect to be practical on any given commit, unless there is an agreed-upon repository freeze. P.S. It would be wise to do any code beautification only on vtigercrm modules proper, not any contained snapshot of third party code. From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com Mon Mar 13 15:49:39 2006 From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:49:39 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 Message-ID: Jeff / Mike / Allan, Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on this one. Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose ends. I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? Regards, - Joel -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fedyk Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. Mike Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >> >>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >> >> > >The original idea was to keep >vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that it >could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >instance on mysql. > >I propose the following: > >- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >assent, IMO. > >- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration in >sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the purity >of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change velocity >on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX status. > >- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can bootstrap >into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >Thoughts? > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 15:56:40 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:56:40 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> I'll help. :) One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines for better maintainability. Comments? Joel Rydbeck wrote: >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on >this one. > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose >ends. > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > >Regards, > >- Joel > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of >Mike Fedyk >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > >I like it. > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > >Mike > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, >>> >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>The original idea was to keep >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that >> >> >it > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. >> >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production >>instance on mysql. >> >>I propose the following: >> >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough >>assent, IMO. >> >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration >> >> >in > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the >> >> >purity > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change >> >> >velocity > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX >> >> >status. > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can >> >> >bootstrap > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. >> >>Thoughts? >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> >> >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 13 16:00:16 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:00:16 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! In-Reply-To: <44159FD6.7090706@internext.com.mx> References: <44158E5F.2010807@internext.com.mx> <4415F995.3050906@mikefedyk.com> <4415990B.2030000@internext.com.mx> <441600C2.2000603@mikefedyk.com> <44159FD6.7090706@internext.com.mx> Message-ID: <44160790.10608@mikefedyk.com> Great! I'll add this to my list of patches to review. Mike Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > Well, if some body have problem with save sales orders trough qoute > module, i solve it do it: > > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > // New Lines HERE > if(empty($value)) > { > $value = 'null'; > } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > From jtk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 19:26:54 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:26:54 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <000601c646bd$9dc25600$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> <4415FA82.50108@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > I like it. Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. The branch vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration is open for committers to integrate their postgresql support code. Please file tickets for as many identifiable postgresql issues as possible, we want to make it possible for the vtigercrm team to track this work on vtigercrm/trunk. I will merge any changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 into this branch, to keep the diff as small as possible and speed the eventual merge back to vtigercrm/branches/4.2. From allan.bush at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 17:31:51 2006 From: allan.bush at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:31:51 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> Yeah breaking the queries up into multiple lines would be a huge help when dealing with diff files and it improves readability (maybe we should come up with a query formatting guide to standardize when to break a line and how much to indent the next line) . I'm really busy today and maybe tomorrow but I can merge in a bunch of changes after that. On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > I'll help. :) > > One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no > more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines > for better maintainability. > > Comments? > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > > > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on > >this one. > > > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of > >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > > > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose > >ends. > > > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with > >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > > > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have > >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > > > >Regards, > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of > >Mike Fedyk > >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM > >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > > > >I like it. > > > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > > > >Mike > > > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > > > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, > >>> > >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>The original idea was to keep > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that > >> > >> > >it > > > > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into > >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > >> > >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug > >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to > >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production > >>instance on mysql. > >> > >>I propose the following: > >> > >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start > >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough > >>assent, IMO. > >> > >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration > >> > >> > >in > > > > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to > >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the > >> > >> > >purity > > > > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by > >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change > >> > >> > >velocity > > > > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX > >> > >> > >status. > > > > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can > >> > >> > >bootstrap > > > > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I > >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its > >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into > >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > >> > >>Thoughts? > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > >> > >> > >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > >down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > >enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > >http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Tue Mar 14 03:21:12 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:21:12 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration jpGraph -> Image Graph In-Reply-To: <200603131031.29739.fboudra@free.fr> Message-ID: Hi Mike, This is almost the best I can do for Pipeline by lead source with Image Graph : It is because Image Graph has no feature for 3D Pie. On the other hand, I consider that 3D pie is not an accurate graphic because each value is represented by an area and 3D perception is wrong. I had also to develop a color_generator function which generates an array of colours based on an algorithm. It is because theme feature is not supported by Image Graph. It could be a good idea to implement this kind of function in themes, each theme having its own colours. Michel PS: I think I will release a first version of Charts.php soon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/6b57b51c/attachment-0005.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 12516 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/6b57b51c/attachment-0003.jpg From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 14 03:29:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:29:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 5.0 beta lockdown? In-Reply-To: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> References: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> Richie wrote: > Hello! > > We plan to release the Beta by the end of this month. > As I am running short of resources here, I would request some help. > Towards that end, I had a discussion with mmbrich and these are the salient > points that we discussed. Please feel free to pitch in your views. > > a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features That's good. Make sure you keep it up to date and if you make any changes to the lib, submit them upstream. > b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The > Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not > respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. > c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be > merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two > different beasts. This will require a full change in your work flow. Any meetings and communications done in your team will have to be done publicly so that your community deputies will be informed of things as they happen and why they happen. You'll need to make tickets for features, bugs etc. in trac and reference to them on your checkins so that a feature or bug fix that is spread over multiple checkins can be tracked easily. If you have deputies, they should be the only one making changes to their area of control. That means if Joe Bob developer is assigned the helpdesk module, even changes made by the core team should go through the deputy. > Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand > all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. > So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. This is very true. I think the easiest way to get there is to have your first deputies to be from the vtiger core team. Assign the various portions of the 5 source tree between your developers and have them send changes to each other and review each other's work. > > There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. > I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. It's up to you what versions you want to bundle with vtiger. Though using the newest version that works properly is probably the best way to go. So if vtiger 5 works with php5 and mysql5 use those. But if you can bundle php5.1 and vtiger 5 works well with it, then do that. > > To briefly mention our status over here :- > We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we > write, I will > be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that > the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. > As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to > integrate the > required UIs esp that of the Security module. What documentation system are you using? Mike From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 04:23:41 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:23:41 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> I always write queries like this: $query = << wrote: > Yeah breaking the queries up into multiple lines would be a huge help > when dealing with diff files and it improves readability (maybe we > should come up with a query formatting guide to standardize when to > break a line and how much to indent the next line) . > > I'm really busy today and maybe tomorrow but I can merge in a bunch of > changes after that. > > On 3/13/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > I'll help. :) > > > > One thing I'd like to see is better formatted queries. That would be no > > more queries that are 300 chars wide, they should be on multiple lines > > for better maintainability. > > > > Comments? > > > > Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > > > >Jeff / Mike / Allan, > > > > > >Thanks for taking the management of branches on Jeff. I'm behind you on > > >this one. > > > > > >Allan, would you be ready to apply your (rather significant) set of > > >changes to the branch once its set? --ideally for the last time. > > > > > >Once Allan's deltas are in I can go through and finish off any loose > > >ends. > > > > > >I think it's fine if there are a few PG bugs once we re-merge with > > >mainline --the idea is to clear the branch hurdle. > > > > > >Would anyone out there be willing to do a MySQL validation once we have > > >the PostgreSQL changes into the branch? > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >- Joel > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > > >[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of > > >Mike Fedyk > > >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:16 PM > > >To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > > >Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 > > > > > >I like it. > > > > > >Go ahead and branch if there are no detractors. > > > > > >Mike > > > > > >Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Joel Rydbeck wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Mike / Allan / Jeff, > > >>> > > >>>My understanding of the plan for PostgreSQL in the 4.x generation is > > >>>that there will be a window to accept it into the 4.2.5 release. What > > >>>would work best from a timeline for making the changes? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>The original idea was to keep > > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration short and sweet, so that > > >> > > >> > > >it > > > > > > > > >>could be a good artifact for the same work that must go into > > >>vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1. > > >> > > >>I'd like to contribute to postgresql integration testing and bug > > >>reporting. Knowing there is no foolproof migration route from mysql to > > >>postgresql, I can't really deploy my first vtigercrm semi-production > > >>instance on mysql. > > >> > > >>I propose the following: > > >> > > >>- Lets make vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration from > > >>vtigercrm/branches/4.2 as soon as the integrators are ready to start > > >>committing. Word from a few of the parties that they're ready is enough > > >>assent, IMO. > > >> > > >>- I'll volunteer to keep vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration > > >> > > >> > > >in > > > > > > > > >>sync with late changes to vtigercrm/branches/4.2 leading up to > > >>vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4. They should be few anyway, so the > > >> > > >> > > >purity > > > > > > > > >>of branching only after vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm-4.2.4 is outweighed by > > >>the practicality of getting the integration started now. Change > > >> > > >> > > >velocity > > > > > > > > >>on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 is likely at its lowest ebb during -rcX > > >> > > >> > > >status. > > > > > > > > >>- As soon as vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration can > > >> > > >> > > >bootstrap > > > > > > > > >>into postgresql and load prepared datasets (like the sample dataset), I > > >>and a presumed whole bunch of other people will be testing its > > >>functionality. I'll try to organize and verify the trouble reports into > > >>trac tickets that the integrators can act upon. > > >> > > >>Thoughts? > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ From richie at vtiger.com Tue Mar 14 05:47:54 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:47:54 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 5.0 beta lockdown? In-Reply-To: <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> References: <109f47893b7.197869256587552014.7813442332552411425@@vtiger.com> <4416A917.5070702@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <109f9034454.2909176754484923352.5784211372550577327@@vtiger.com> Hi! Thanks for the response. We currently use phpDocs for generating our API documentation. I will take your advice of having individual core members as deputies. We have already done that. Once the Beta is out, we will have a lot of bug-fixes coming in, at that time, it will be better to have some more deputies so that we are able to move faster and in sync. We will make the communication channels more open at that point in time. We intend to bundle php5 with mysql5 as of now. Richie ---- Mike Fedyk<mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote ---- Richie wrote: > Hello! > > We plan to release the Beta by the end of this month. > As I am running short of resources here, I would request some help. > Towards that end, I had a discussion with mmbrich and these are the salient > points that we discussed. Please feel free to pitch in your views. > > a) Bundle prototype as base library for all Ajax features That's good. Make sure you keep it up to date and if you make any changes to the lib, submit them upstream. > b) Hiring Deputies for keeping track of various modules. I would need volunteers. The > Deputies must know that copying from any outside source is not allowed and is not > respected either. No new feature additions are allowed, only and strictly bug-fixes. > c) Try and get the svn diff of the 4.2.x series and see if the same can be > merged into the 5.0. Care has to be taken as these are entirely two > different beasts. This will require a full change in your work flow. Any meetings and communications done in your team will have to be done publicly so that your community deputies will be informed of things as they happen and why they happen. You'll need to make tickets for features, bugs etc. in trac and reference to them on your checkins so that a feature or bug fix that is spread over multiple checkins can be tracked easily. If you have deputies, they should be the only one making changes to their area of control. That means if Joe Bob developer is assigned the helpdesk module, even changes made by the core team should go through the deputy. > Please note, opening up the 5.0 is a critical move. We need to understand > all the facets of this before we do actually open up the main trunk to developers. > So, I am starting a discussion here to get all your views. This is very true. I think the easiest way to get there is to have your first deputies to be from the vtiger core team. Assign the various portions of the 5 source tree between your developers and have them send changes to each other and review each other's work. > > There is also the issue of support for MySQL5 with PHP5 in the default installation. > I am open to debate on how to go about bundling these. It's up to you what versions you want to bundle with vtiger. Though using the newest version that works properly is probably the best way to go. So if vtiger 5 works with php5 and mysql5 use those. But if you can bundle php5.1 and vtiger 5 works well with it, then do that. > > To briefly mention our status over here :- > We have started working on the API generation of all the code that we > write, I will > be happy to have reviewers for the same as well.This will ensure that > the Developer Docs/Guide is proper. > As I type this letter, we are working feverishly on the product to > integrate the > required UIs esp that of the Security module. What documentation system are you using? Mike _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/418b9aa9/attachment-0005.html From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 14 06:24:55 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:24:55 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > I always write queries like this: > > $query = << select > * > from > table1, > table2, > where > foo = ? > and > zeta = ? > group by > tita > order by > zeta > END; I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest and most diff-friendly, by far. I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that to the style standard? $query = << Message-ID: <015601c64781$253e7000$7f00a8c0@D5WSCS11> I would like to suggest one small change to the proposed change. I implemented the change Luis mentions verbatim several weeks ago, but it would insert the literal 'null' into ALL blank fields. I would recommend the following instead which adds a small check to see if the field is likely a foreign key. This is the code I submitted in the patch for quotes (tic 51). It appears Sales Orders has the same basic problem, so the fix should work here as well. > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; >> $match = stristr($fieldname,'id'); // adding this to try and set only foreign keys. we dont want ALL blank values set to null >> if(empty($value) && $match != '0') >> { >> $value = 'null'; >> } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } Andy Rodes arodes at onweald.com -----Original Message----- From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Mike Fedyk Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:00 PM To: Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] HELP ME! Great! I'll add this to my list of patches to review. Mike Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas wrote: > Well, if some body have problem with save sales orders trough qoute > module, i solve it do it: > > changed modules/orders/SaveSalesOrders.php > > Old = > > line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) > { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > New= > > Line 44 foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val) { > if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname])) > { > $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname]; > // New Lines HERE > if(empty($value)) > { > $value = 'null'; > } > //echo '
'; > //echo $fieldname." ".$value; > //echo '
'; > $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value; > } > } > > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 08:53:36 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:53:36 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> I usually write queries in a slightly more compact format: $query = "SELECT FROM INNER JOIN ON WHERE AND GROUP BY ORDER BY "; The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > > I always write queries like this: > > > > $query = << > select > > * > > from > > table1, > > table2, > > where > > foo = ? > > and > > zeta = ? > > group by > > tita > > order by > > zeta > > END; > > I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest > and most diff-friendly, by far. > > I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that > to the style standard? > > $query = << SELECT > * > FROM > table1, > table2, > WHERE > foo = ? > AND > zeta = ? > GROUP BY > tita > ORDER BY > zeta > END; > > +1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. > > Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and > each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin > message > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. 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URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/563fe117/attachment-0003.html From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com Tue Mar 14 09:46:52 2006 From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:46:52 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Build process References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com><3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com><49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <000101c64788$dfd2b410$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: What would you guys think of putting a build process in place. Nightly would be a bit frequent, but perhaps weekly or monthly. It would open the window for any testers out there to start writing automated tests for the app and put some rigor around our quality. I think in the long term it could help make Mike F's work easier and keep us moving forward more cohesively. If we had a monthly check-in, where all branches were brought together, release or no-release, it would allow for some of this code beautifying we're talking about as well as testing and keeping everything current so that we don't get stagnant branches. Thoughts? - Joel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3966 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060314/59b8ba27/attachment-0005.bin From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 14 10:59:26 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:59:26 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Build process In-Reply-To: References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com><3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com><49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <000101c64788$dfd2b410$0a0510ac@nubrek.local> Message-ID: <4417128E.4060307@mikefedyk.com> I like the idea of having a weekly zip/tar.(gz|bz2) but I don't really see the point of a monthly merge since I'm planning on having monthly releases. And I don't see merges becoming automated with SVN, it just doesn't handle that problem space. Mike Joel Rydbeck wrote: >What would you guys think of putting a build process in place. Nightly would be a bit frequent, but perhaps weekly or monthly. It would open the window for any testers out there to start writing automated tests for the app and put some rigor around our quality. I think in the long term it could help make Mike F's work easier and keep us moving forward more cohesively. > >If we had a monthly check-in, where all branches were brought together, release or no-release, it would allow for some of this code beautifying we're talking about as well as testing and keeping everything current so that we don't get stagnant branches. > >Thoughts? > >- Joel > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 14 11:09:55 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:09:55 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/3775 This changeset shows the format I typically use. It puts major keywords at the beginning of the line and only uses indenting where it is needed -- typically when the parts related to the keyword are long. $query = "SELECT > FROM > INNER JOIN > ON > WHERE > AND > GROUP BY > ORDER BY "; > >The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely >a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in >one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't >wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. > >On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > > >>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >> >> >>>I always write queries like this: >>> >>>$query = <<>> select >>> * >>> from >>> table1, >>> table2, >>> where >>> foo = ? >>> and >>> zeta = ? >>> group by >>> tita >>> order by >>> zeta >>>END; >>> >>> >>I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest >>and most diff-friendly, by far. >> >>I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that >>to the style standard? >> >> $query = <<> SELECT >> * >> FROM >> table1, >> table2, >> WHERE >> foo = ? >> AND >> zeta = ? >> GROUP BY >> tita >> ORDER BY >> zeta >> END; >> >>+1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. >> >>Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and >>each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin >>message >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > From nolan at peaceworks.ca Tue Mar 14 15:57:43 2006 From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:57:43 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Postgres Integration in 4.2.5 In-Reply-To: <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> References: <441606B8.8020209@mikefedyk.com> <3bec26390603131731l6a622b36yc6f7e2c82d5f23f4@mail.gmail.com> <49216030603140423t155d35afs899744233b742110@mail.gmail.com> <3bec26390603140853m4fbf3fecl94a1626a85c20105@mail.gmail.com> <44171503.9010006@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <44175877.70505@peaceworks.ca> My $.02... - YES YES YES to standardizing SQL queries! - capitalized keywords good! This alone makes a big difference! Yes to making this a part of the standard! - I generally do what Allan does, except I put SELECT FROM WHERE GROUP HAVING ORDER all at the same indentation - Indents identical to Allan's for INNER JOIN, ANDs/ORs for logical clauses - ...but so long as it's clear, I'm happy ...so the code beautifier doesn't do SQL? Mike Fedyk wrote: > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/3775 > > This changeset shows the format I typically use. It puts major keywords > at the beginning of the line and only uses indenting where it is needed > -- typically when the parts related to the keyword are long. > > $query = "SELECT >> FROM >> INNER JOIN >> ON >> WHERE >> AND >> GROUP BY >> ORDER BY "; >> >>The uppercase SQL commands and lower case tables/columns is definitely >>a must though. Also for short queries I find putting everything in >>one line to be reasonable, as a rule of thumb if the query doesn't >>wrap in an 80 character wide terminal I usually put it in one line. >> >>On 3/14/06, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: >> >> >> >>>Sergio A. Kessler wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I always write queries like this: >>>> >>>>$query = <<>>> select >>>> * >>>> from >>>> table1, >>>> table2, >>>> where >>>> foo = ? >>>> and >>>> zeta = ? >>>> group by >>>> tita >>>> order by >>>> zeta >>>>END; >>>> >>>> >>> >>>I usually don't go the extra mile to indent, but your way is the clearest >>>and most diff-friendly, by far. >>> >>>I do like to capitalize SQL keywords though, could we agree on adding that >>>to the style standard? >>> >>>$query = <<>> SELECT >>> * >>> FROM >>> table1, >>> table2, >>> WHERE >>> foo = ? >>> AND >>> zeta = ? >>> GROUP BY >>> tita >>> ORDER BY >>> zeta >>>END; >>> >>>+1 on reformatting SQL queries according to a strict style standard. >>> >>>Once consensus is reached on a style, a trac ticket should be created, and >>>each reformat-only commit should include 'refs #XX' in the checkin >>>message >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Wed Mar 15 08:32:28 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:32:28 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 2006 SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards Nominations Message-ID: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> Vote, vote, vote !!! http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards5.php http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php http://sourceforge.net/awards/cca/ Aissa From larenas at internext.com.mx Wed Mar 15 03:16:31 2006 From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:16:31 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] A toda la comunidad Latina que participe en esta lista. Message-ID: <4417F78F.6090103@internext.com.mx> Hola: Los invito a ponerse en conctacto con migo para que discutamos problemas sobre el Vtiger en nuestro idioma. Gracias. From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 15 12:44:10 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:44:10 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 2006 SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards Nominations In-Reply-To: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> References: <4418419C.8050801@vtigercrmfrance.org> Message-ID: <44187C9A.3070707@mikefedyk.com> Abos wrote: >Vote, vote, vote !!! >http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards5.php >http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php >http://sourceforge.net/awards/cca/ > > Voted. Alright Compiere, Java OSS Roc kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 5562 (jre50). OK, that's enough of that. ;) Go vTigerCRM! Or as jeff puts it: go vtigercrm ;) Mike From libregeek at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 00:22:08 2006 From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:52:08 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Documents for Vtiger Message-ID: <2315046d0603170022t50d012afp@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, Is there any developer documents for vtiger? I visited http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Vtiger_CRM_-_Developer_Guide , but seems that the document is empty. I wish to develop a module/extension for HR Mangement in vtigercrm. Kindly provide the documents or any resource regarding the above. regards Manilal From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Fri Mar 17 04:13:15 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:13:15 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Image Graph Message-ID: Hi all, Here joined a dashboard generated with image graph. Some details are to be tuned (dynamic ticks interval, bar width, .). I will post the source for Charts.php with some explanation before tonight (French time). Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060317/12a34f42/attachment-0003.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DashboardImageGraph.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 251891 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060317/12a34f42/attachment-0003.jpg From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Fri Mar 17 08:29:42 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:29:42 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Image Graph Message-ID: As announced the files needed to test Vtigercrm-4.2.4.rc2 - Image_Graph implementation. Installation : 1. Install Pear package if it is not already done 2. Install Image_Graph package with all its dependencies : Pear install -a Image_Graph-0.7.2 3. Override Charts.php in your vtigercrm/potentials folder (be sure to have a backup copy) 4. Apply the patches on Dashboard module files to suppress the test on php version. Things to do : 1. Compute the ticks interval according to the maximum axis value. 2. Try to dispose ticks on category axis as they where with jpgraph (if really needed). 3. Implement and beautify the colour generator algorithm (very basic actually). 4. Make it dependent on current theme (if everybody agree). 5. Test font-language implementation (I do not try it for Chinese or Czech). Comments : 1. In Charts.php I have only commented the replaced line. I know it is not "beautiful" (ref. Allan hobby) but it is for others to understand the changes. The lines will have to be suppressed in the official version. 2. If somebody looks at Image Graph examples, he will probably notice that graph layout uses the following syntax : $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title = Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',11)), Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea = Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'), $footer = Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)), 90 ), 5 ) or $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',11)), Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea =& Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'), $footer =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)), 90 ), 5 ) It works nice in a test program called directly but it doesn't in Charts.php. I have not found the explanation. The correct one is : $title =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Test',10)); $plotarea =& Image_Graph::factory('plotarea'); $footer =& Image_Graph::factory('title', array('Footer',8)); $graph->add( Image_Graph::vertical( $title, Image_Graph::vertical( $plotarea, $footer, 90 ), 5 ) 3. 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Mike From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Sun Mar 19 03:40:09 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:40:09 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Message-ID: The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!). See ticket : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 Michel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Richie ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved :   3         When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!).   See ticket :   http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65   Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060319/cb10d36c/attachment-0005.html From richie at vtiger.com Sun Mar 19 23:17:33 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:17:33 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10a16840ad7.3864398727635444731.2037062845435905282@@vtiger.com> PHP5 has a very different array handling behaviour. It passes arrays by reference. So, there will be major impacts in the code. Please do refer to my posts about cloning in the vtiger forums. I would like to have the mysql5 integration properly done before integrating PHP5 into the current vtiger crm5 builds.Once we do have PHP5 integrated, we will start fixing all these issues. ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved :   3         When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!).   See ticket :   http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65   Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060319/4d0049e5/attachment-0003.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 02:29:02 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:29:02 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a16820983.1412508798428817900.-5004035387256997844%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: Hi Richie, Thanks to appreciate what I have done. There is no problem for me to work on version 5, I have already installed twice Alpha 2, one is running on classic install (PHP 4 + MySQL 4), the other one for debugging purpose with PHP 5 and MySQL 5.1. I have fixed installation process but have still a problem to solve with login. I am working on a larger project on CRM which requires integration of a Sync module (with ERP) and a Workflow module, but I think I can also work on charts. I am rather new on PHP (I am more fluent with Delphi and MsSQL) so I use this dev to learn more. Let me know how I can participate, do you have defined the outputs? Regards Michel _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:15 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Hi Michel! We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. I like what you have done. I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing to work on it please? You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working with ImageMaps. Thanks, Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/7181643d/attachment-0005.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 02:33:03 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:33:03 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a16840ad7.3864398727635444731.2037062845435905282%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: I know that and version 4.2.4rc2 is running with zend compatibility mode of PHP4. The problem I discuss here is linked to ADODB qstr function called by PearDatabase : function quote($string){ return ADOConnection::qstr($string); } Qstr function has several calls to $this->function, the use of $this is not allowed outside object context, so you get an error when you call : PearDatabase::quote($string); I changed it to $adb->quote($string); And it seems to work on all the functions I have tested, but I am not sure it is a good practice. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:18 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility PHP5 has a very different array handling behaviour. It passes arrays by reference. So, there will be major impacts in the code. Please do refer to my posts about cloning in the vtiger forums. I would like to have the mysql5 integration properly done before integrating PHP5 into the current vtiger crm5 builds.Once we do have PHP5 integrated, we will start fixing all these issues. ---- Michel JACQUEMES wrote ---- The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on line 2380 I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time to investigate (help is welcome!). See ticket : http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 Michel _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/4ca43431/attachment-0003.html From werk at r2g.nl Mon Mar 20 05:08:36 2006 From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:08:36 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database Message-ID: Hi All, As newbe user of vtigercrm and starting programmer, I have been reading the forums and mailingslist archive. As vtigercrm grows, we all would like to see an easier structure to maintain, for example of the db. I have implemented vtigercrm on my isp with ssl for my own business ( I run a smal firm for system administrator ) and have done also on a Novell SBS for several of my clients. Looking at the tablestructure of vtigercrm we have 192 tables total! I wonder if prefix tables could be meaningfull, thinking of several possibilities: - If someone wants or must use only one database with several applications, say joomla cms and vtigercrm at an isp. - more seperation of db: on a 'per module' bases - another seperation of db: add-on/plugins with there own prefix - better version control of db, different prefix per version. >From above I suggest: .vti_ as default .vti_a_ for addon .vti_p_ for plugin .vti_{modulename}_ for module or with version control: .vti_424_ .vti_424_a .vti_424_p .vti_424_{modulename}_ It would also eas the use of future migration scripts as migration could be done in several layers. Best Regards, Remco Gerbrands From saint at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 06:29:02 2006 From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:59:02 +0530 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion Message-ID: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Folks.. Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all your inputs. For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) thanks, Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/bb8a6474/attachment-0005.html From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Mon Mar 20 07:06:45 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:06:45 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > Author: allanbush > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > New Revision: 4323 > > Log: > Added dummy sequence requests. > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > References ticket:17. > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > else > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, but if > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of tables that need it in the source? From sergiokessler at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 07:14:09 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:14:09 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> References: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> richie, do you (or anyone) have a url for this imageMaps code ? (my google search failed) On 3/20/06, Richie wrote: > Hi Michel! > > We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. > I like what you have done. > > I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing > to work on it please? > > You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working > with ImageMaps. > > Thanks, > Richie > > > > > ---- Michel JACQUEMES wrote ---- > > > > > The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : > > > > 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : > Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in > c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\vtigercrm-graph\adodb\adodb.inc.php on > line 2380 > I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time > to investigate (help is welcome!). > > > > See ticket : > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 > > > > Michel > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From richie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 07:17:48 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:17:48 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10a183bba27.5706286486276782748.1632333412769303144@@vtiger.com> Hello Michel! Thanks for the response. I would very much like to see the changes that you have done on Alpha2 with the ImageGraphs. I would like you to handle the Dashboards part for vtiger CRM 5. I can give you checkin access to that module and you can make the changes and update the svn repository. We will test from here and get back to you with the results. That way, we can spot any issues early. Let me know if that is okay. ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- Hi Richie,   Thanks to appreciate what I have done.   There is no problem for me to work on version 5, I have already installed twice Alpha 2, one is running on classic install (PHP 4 + MySQL 4), the other one for debugging purpose with PHP 5 and MySQL 5.1. I have fixed installation process but have still a problem to solve with login.   I am working on a larger project on CRM which requires integration of a Sync module (with ERP) and a Workflow module, but I think I can also work on charts. I am rather new on PHP (I am more fluent with Delphi and MsSQL) so I use this dev to learn more.   Let me know how I can participate, do you have defined the outputs?   Regards   Michel   De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 08:15 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : VTiger developper list Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility   Hi Michel! We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. I like what you have done. I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing to work on it please? You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working with ImageMaps. Thanks, Richie _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/419598c5/attachment-0003.html From richie at vtiger.com Mon Mar 20 07:25:26 2006 From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:25:26 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> References: <768693074836122109@unknownmsgid> <49216030603200714o6c2bb180u255dda9334b73c01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867@@vtiger.com> My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. Richie ---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ---- richie, do you (or anyone) have a url for this imageMaps code ? (my google search failed) On 3/20/06, Richie <richie at vtiger.com> wrote: > Hi Michel! > > We are planning to use ImageMaps in vtiger CRM 5. > I like what you have done. > > I would like you to work on the Dashboard for vtiger CRM5. Are you willing > to work on it please? > > You could have a look at the Alpha2 and try and get the Dashboard working > with ImageMaps. > > Thanks, > Richie > > > > > ---- Michel JACQUEMES<m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote ---- > > > > > The problem noticed in my preceding mail can be solved : > > > > 3 When using a shortcut on graph, you get an error message : > Fatal error: Using $this when not in object context in > c:\Inetpub\http://wwwrootvtigercrm-graphadodbadodb.inc.php on > line 2380 > I think it is probably a bug of 4.2.4rc2 with PHP 5 but I did not take time > to investigate (help is welcome!). > > > > See ticket : > > > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/65 > > > > Michel > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/df20d2b4/attachment-0005.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 09:43:19 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:43:19 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a183bba27.5706286486276782748.1632333412769303144%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: Hello Richie, I have not worked on Alpha2-Image_Graph but I am going to have a look. I was trying to test Alpha2 with MySql 5 but I have some problems with it. I forgot to mention that Image_Graph is actually a Beta version but it works fine. For the Dashboard, it is Ok for me. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:18 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility Hello Michel! Thanks for the response. I would very much like to see the changes that you have done on Alpha2 with the ImageGraphs. I would like you to handle the Dashboards part for vtiger CRM 5. I can give you checkin access to that module and you can make the changes and update the svn repository. We will test from here and get back to you with the results. That way, we can spot any issues early. Let me know if that is okay. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/a5f844de/attachment-0003.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 09:37:06 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:37:06 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: You can find it here : http://pear.php.net/packages.php?catpid=12 &catname=Images Package Image_Canvas is required. You can also find very useful informations at : http://pear.veggerby.dk/ If you want to download it, you have first to install Pear. Follow the doc, it is easy. _____ De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Richie Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:25 ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. Richie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060320/da38b93f/attachment-0005.html From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Mon Mar 20 10:09:18 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:09:18 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, I don't understand the purpose of this. As far as it is installation, it is batch. So if there is a failure, simply drop the schema, create it and run again. Use of transaction during this step is not very important. If it is an upgrade, ask people to backup their base or do it by program. On the other hand, if the target is to implement Mysql 5 or Postgres, they support transactions. In that case I think something like : $db->StartTrans(); ... INSERT INTO $masterTable (id, field1,..) VALUES (DEFAULT,$val1,...) $masterID = $db->Insert_ID(); ... INSERT INTO $dependingTable (...,master_id,..) VALUES (...,$masterID,...) $ok = $db->CompleteTrans(); Is better Michel > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk > Envoy??: lundi 20 mars 2006 16:07 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com; vtigercrm- > commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] > r4323 - > /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.p > hp > > vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > > Author: allanbush > > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > New Revision: 4323 > > > > Log: > > Added dummy sequence requests. > > > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it > during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after > the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in > the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > > > References ticket:17. > > > > Modified: > > > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p > > > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p > > > ========================================================================== > ==== > > --- > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p (original) > > +++ > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.ph > p Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > > else > > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, > but if > > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); > Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of > tables that need it in the source? > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 10:51:39 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:51:39 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4323 - /vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php In-Reply-To: <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> References: <20060320100458.AFA4E4E8BAC@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <441EC505.8090308@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <3bec26390603201051l348995cdvf480911f46fb441a@mail.gmail.com> Not that I can see, any string could be used for the sequence it's totally up to the program code. I got this list by grepping trough the source and someone could create another simply by adding the line $id = $adb->getUniqueID("foo"); anywhere which would be pretty hard to detect. I'm open to ideas if someone else has any suggestions. On 3/20/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > > Author: allanbush > > Date: Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > New Revision: 4323 > > > > Log: > > Added dummy sequence requests. > > > > Adodb usually creates sequences on demand, but if it trys to do it during a transaction problems can occur so we'll do them all right after the tables are created. The side effect of this is that the first id in the tables will be 2 instead of 1. > > > > References ticket:17. > > > > Modified: > > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php > > ============================================================================== > > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php (original) > > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration/install/5createTables.inc.php Mon Mar 20 03:04:56 2006 > > @@ -227,6 +227,30 @@ > > else > > eecho("Tables Successfully created.\n"); > > > > +// ensure required sequences are created (adodb creates them as needed, but if > > +// creation occurs within a transaction we get problems > > +$db->getUniqueID("activity_reminder"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("crmentity"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customfield_sequence"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("customview"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("def_org_share"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("emailtemplates"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("field"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("import_maps"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("inventorynotification"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("mail_accounts"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("notificationscheduler"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("potstagehistory"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("profile"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("relatedlists"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("reportmodules"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("role"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("rss"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("selectquery"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("systems"); > > +$db->getUniqueID("wordtemplates"); > Any way this can be detected at runtime instead of storing a list of > tables that need it in the source? > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 12:03:29 2006 From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:03:29 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed Message-ID: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. If you want to help you'll need to check the postgres branch code out of SVN: svn co http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration then run through the installation process exactly like you would for a mysql installation. If you have both mysql and pgsql support in your php module then you'll have to select which you wish to use, if not it should be done for you automatically. Make sure to select the correct port for you database host it's probably localhost:5432 for most setups. In the default setup I've tweaked adodb to output to the browser any database errors encountered along with a backtrace of how the query was called. Because of this you'll notice a bunch of output about missing sequences during the table population process of the installation, these errors can be safely ignored as adodb automatically corrects them. What is needed is for testers to play around with this and find more database errors. If you encounter a problem the adodb debugging routine should output an error message to your browser page. Simply copy the error message (including the query and the backtrace) and file a bug added a short description of what you were trying to do at the time. I'm not sure what the best way to track these bugs is, ideally each one would be filed as a ticket in trac which blocks ticket #17, but I don't think trac supports meta bugs. Unfortunately I'm leaving town today and will be unavailable until Saturday but if people can help collect bug reports I'll get them fixed next weekend or some other developer may be able to fix some of them during the week. Thanks for all your help, Allan From justoff at hotmail.ru Tue Mar 21 01:33:27 2006 From: justoff at hotmail.ru (=?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz8jB?=) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:33:27 +0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-ready AlphabeticalSearch(); Message-ID: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> Hi all! Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. Improvements: 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) encoding. Or to use multiletter links. P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and criticism:) are welcome. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: include_utils.php.diff Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1097 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/0a4915b4/attachment-0006.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from > all your inputs. > > For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page > (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and > contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what > you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts > about home page too. :-) > > > thanks, > Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/a469be1d/attachment-0003.html From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 04:08:53 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:08:53 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: <10a1842b82b.3883033868482287510.-1168738110896106867%@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com> how will this be integrated in the final release ? because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to execute command line commands to install stuff... I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible (because of restrictions on server) I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to put pear files there (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to take this files) btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! does image_graph output to SVG ? On 3/20/06, Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > > > > You can find it here : > > > > http://pear.php.net/packages.php?catpid=12&catname=Images > > > > Package Image_Canvas is required. > > > > You can also find very useful informations at : > > > > http://pear.veggerby.dk/ > > > > If you want to download it, you have first to install Pear. Follow the doc, > it is easy. > > > > > ________________________________ > > > De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com > [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] > De la part de Richie > > Envoy? : lundi 20 mars 2006 16:25 > ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Cc : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > > Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility > > > > > > > > My apologies for the confusion. I meant imagegraphs that Michel was working > with. I personally do not have any urls but I like what he had done and the > posts said that the licence allows it. Moreover, after referring to the > forum posts, we thought it better to go with ImageGraphs. > > Richie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From sergiokessler at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 04:14:18 2006 From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:14:18 -0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion In-Reply-To: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> References: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <49216030603210414h31cbdbt44c726b069250bcb@mail.gmail.com> saint, I can tell you what I *don't* want to see, but you already know that... ;-) /sak On 3/20/06, Saint wrote: > Folks.. > > Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home > page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all > your inputs. > > For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like > Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be > shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and > more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) > > > thanks, > Saint > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com Tue Mar 21 06:43:25 2006 From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:43:25 +0000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services Message-ID: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it only returns true or false... Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? for example... method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', 1); without any kind of authentication ... IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password each time one method is call. Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060321/62e30301/attachment-0005.html From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 10:35:03 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:35:03 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How To: merge changesets between branches Message-ID: I just merged our first change on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. Merging changes between branches: a) keeps the diff down for when you're ready to merge a branch back the other way (retiring the branch). b) is better than manually modifying your working copy to imitate a changeset and committing. It seems that this is the first use of the svn merge command in our fledgling repository, so I'll document how to do working-copy merges here for the benefit of others. We have a lot of merging to do between vtigercrm/branches/4.2 and vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1! (server side merges (between two rev-ranged URLS) are the ultimate for changeset-preserving history, but we can ease into that at some future date) The end result of the following steps is a tidy changeset with links to various items in trac: http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4381 Step 1: Find the changeset you want to merge, on the trunk/branch it occurs: svn diff -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php =================================================================== --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4357) +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4358) @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ { $has_header = 1; } -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ { $datarows = $xrows; } -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; else $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; else $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; - -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; else $START = $_SESSION['startval']; -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; else $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; Step 2: merge the changeset (revision range + URL) to your working copy: $ svn merge -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 U modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Step 3: diff your working copy with merged changes to the repository URL $ svn diff modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php =================================================================== --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4380) +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (working copy) @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ { $has_header = 1; } -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ { $datarows = $xrows; } -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; else $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; else $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; - -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; else $START = $_SESSION['startval']; -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; else $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; Step 4: commit your working copy with merged changes, including a commit message that references/closes any applicable trac tickets. $ svn commit -m 'refs #62 and #17. merging changeset r4358 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration' modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Sending modules/Import/ImportStep4.php Transmitting file data . Committed revision 4381. From jtk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 10:48:24 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:48:24 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Allan Bush wrote: > Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the > installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, > now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger. I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in postgresql). From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 21 12:30:09 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:30:09 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed In-Reply-To: References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com> Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > Allan Bush wrote: > >> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the >> installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent, >> now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs. >> > > Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an > install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't > noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful > contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger. > > I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in > postgresql). Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance. Mike From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr Tue Mar 21 21:06:29 2006 From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:06:29 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have not checked Pear template dependencies. What do you mean by SVG? > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler > Envoy??: mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09 > ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com > Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility > > how will this be integrated in the final release ? > > because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to > execute command line commands to install stuff... > I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will > find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible > (because of restrictions on server) > > I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to > put pear files there > (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to > take this files) > > btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! > does image_graph output to SVG ? > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 21 23:41:02 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:41:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] How To: merge changesets between branches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4420FF8E.9040606@mikefedyk.com> Hi Jeff, Is is possible that you could be the branch merge maintainer? I've read through the first half of the svn book, but you have experience here that is quite valuable and will be an example for everyone to learn from also. Most any request that eases merging 4.2 <-> 5.0 will be followed (like possibly splitting utils.php in 4.2.x like I have heard it is in 5.0) as long as a consensus is reached. What do you say? Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: > I just merged our first change on vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to > vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. Merging changes between > branches: > > a) keeps the diff down for when you're ready to merge a branch back the > other way (retiring the branch). > > b) is better than manually modifying your working copy to imitate a > changeset and committing. > > It seems that this is the first use of the svn merge command in our > fledgling repository, so I'll document how to do working-copy merges here > for the benefit of others. We have a lot of merging to do between > vtigercrm/branches/4.2 and vtigercrm/trunk before vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1! > > (server side merges (between two rev-ranged URLS) are the ultimate for > changeset-preserving history, but we can ease into that at some future > date) > > The end result of the following steps is a tidy changeset with links to > various items in trac: > > http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4381 > > > Step 1: Find the changeset you want to merge, on the trunk/branch it occurs: > > svn diff -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 > Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > =================================================================== > --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4357) > +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4358) > @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ > { > $has_header = 1; > } > -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; > > if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') > @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ > { > $datarows = $xrows; > } > -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; > else > $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; > > -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; > else > $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); > > -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; > - > -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; > else > $START = $_SESSION['startval']; > -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; > else > $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; > > > Step 2: merge the changeset (revision range + URL) to your working copy: > > $ svn merge -r 4357:4358 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 > U modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > > > Step 3: diff your working copy with merged changes to the repository URL > > $ svn diff modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Index: modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > =================================================================== > --- modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (revision 4380) > +++ modules/Import/ImportStep4.php (working copy) > @@ -89,7 +89,7 @@ > { > $has_header = 1; > } > -if($_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > +if(isset( $_REQUEST['modulename']) && $_REQUEST['modulename'] != '') > $_REQUEST['module'] = $_REQUEST['modulename']; > > if (! isset( $_REQUEST['module'] ) || $_REQUEST['module'] == 'Contacts') > @@ -239,23 +239,21 @@ > { > $datarows = $xrows; > } > -if($_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > +if(isset($_SESSION['skipped_record_count']) && $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] != '') > $skipped_record_count = $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count']; > else > $_REQUEST['skipped_record_count'] = 0; > > -if($_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['noofrows']) && $_REQUEST['noofrows'] != '') > $totalnoofrows = $_REQUEST['noofrows']; > else > $totalnoofrows = count($datarows); > > -$loopcount = ($totalnoofrows/$RECORDCOUNT)+1; > - > -if($_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['startval']) && $_REQUEST['startval'] != '') > $START = $_REQUEST['startval']; > else > $START = $_SESSION['startval']; > -if($_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > +if(isset($_REQUEST['recordcount']) && $_REQUEST['recordcount'] != '') > $RECORDCOUNT = $_REQUEST['recordcount']; > else > $RECORDCOUNT = $_SESSION['recordcount']; > > > Step 4: commit your working copy with merged changes, including a commit > message that references/closes any applicable trac tickets. > > $ svn commit -m 'refs #62 and #17. merging changeset r4358 to vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration' modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Sending modules/Import/ImportStep4.php > Transmitting file data . > Committed revision 4381. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Tue Mar 21 23:53:20 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:53:20 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44210270.2010004@mikefedyk.com> We'll keep it in the source and keep it up to date just like all of our other php based dependencies. A script that removes the external dependencies and replaces them at packaging time (debian, gentoo, Lin/Win bin, etc.) would be a great help. And any patches that clean up referencing the location of external dependencies will be accepted. Anyone interested in writing that script? Michel JACQUEMES wrote: > I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some > work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend > package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have > not checked Pear template dependencies. > > What do you mean by SVG? > > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm- >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler >> Envoy? : mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09 >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility >> >> how will this be integrated in the final release ? >> >> because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to >> execute command line commands to install stuff... >> I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will >> find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible >> (because of restrictions on server) >> >> I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to >> put pear files there >> (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to >> take this files) >> >> btw, michel you are doing a great job here ! >> does image_graph output to SVG ? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 00:01:30 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:01:30 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4421045A.50107@mikefedyk.com> A lot of those tables store many-many relationships between various modules. Which module owns a table when it references to more than one module? I've thought about this before but that really killed the idea for me. If a solution or policy can be made that solves it, then it looks much more interesting. Also I absolutely do not like storing version numbers in table or db names. The migration from 4.2.[0123] should be able to be done by testing for some unique structure that is not in that version and changing it to the current version. Also adodb's data dictionary functions may be able to do this for us. I just want to make sure it does it in a lossless fashion. Mike Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote: > Hi All, > > As newbe user of vtigercrm and starting programmer, I have been reading the > forums and mailingslist archive. As vtigercrm grows, we all would like to > see an easier structure to maintain, for example of the db. > I have implemented vtigercrm on my isp with ssl for my own business ( I run > a smal firm for system administrator ) and have done also on a Novell SBS > for several of my clients. > > Looking at the tablestructure of vtigercrm we have 192 tables total! > I wonder if prefix tables could be meaningfull, thinking of several > possibilities: > - If someone wants or must use only one database with several applications, > say joomla cms and vtigercrm at an isp. > - more seperation of db: on a 'per module' bases > - another seperation of db: add-on/plugins with there own prefix > - better version control of db, different prefix per version. > > >From above I suggest: > .vti_ as default > .vti_a_ for addon > .vti_p_ for plugin > .vti_{modulename}_ for module > > or with version control: > .vti_424_ > .vti_424_a > .vti_424_p > .vti_424_{modulename}_ > > > It would also eas the use of future migration scripts as migration could be > done in several layers. > > Best Regards, > > Remco Gerbrands > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 00:07:24 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:07:24 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-ready AlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> References: <200603210930.k2L9UShf029756@relay1.macomnet.ru> Message-ID: <442105BC.7080507@mikefedyk.com> Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce the output it would be even better. I'll take it either way though. Mike ?????? wrote: > Hi all! > > Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. > > Improvements: > 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php file and > can be easily localized or even freely modified. > 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or multicharacter) > values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) encoding. Or to use multiletter links. > > P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and > criticism:) are welcome. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 00:11:52 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:11:52 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). Joao Oliveira wrote: > Hello all, > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > only returns true or false... > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > for example... > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > each time one method is call. > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From justoff at hotmail.ru Wed Mar 22 03:44:00 2006 From: justoff at hotmail.ru (Anthony V. Scray) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:44:00 +0300 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-readyAlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <442105BC.7080507@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> > Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? Yes. Here is "unified" version. ("context" value for diff -u is 3) Previous version I made with wiki guide http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/HowToGeneratePatchWithWinMerge. > The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce > the output it would be even better. Currently I'am not familiar with template engine :( Maybe later.. >I'll take it either way though. Thanks. > > Mike > > ?????? wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. > > > > Improvements: > > 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php > > file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. > > 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or > > multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) > encoding. Or to use multiletter links. > > > > P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and > > criticism:) are welcome. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. 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I thought that it was possible to define there some custom server global variables, but it isn't. Best Regards Jo?o Oliveira On 3/22/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done > quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so > upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). > > Joao Oliveira wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > > only returns true or false... > > > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > > > for example... > > > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > > each time one method is call. > > > > Best Regards > > Jo?o Oliveira. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/74601a37/attachment-0003.html From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Wed Mar 22 05:01:09 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:01:09 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion In-Reply-To: <441EBC2E.7080605@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <00ac01c64db0$b1537f60$2201a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hello Saint, I would suggest adding sample standard roles, of which the common function of each role will have preset views (customizable per user). Key lesson is to provide only what information is needed and nothing more. Everything should fit in an 800 x 600 screen without scrolling vertically or horizontally. Here are my suggestions: Salesforce Staffing Sales Manager Homepage Front page will provide a summary of the team he manages, with individual drill-down capabilities to product/Sales Executive. Summary would include new leads/tasks/contacts obtained today, pending leads/tasks/contacts obtained by his team. "Message to the team" function with edit/display on all members homepage in his team. "Progress vs Target" statistics and/or charts for the month/quarter/year Sales Executive Homepage Front page will provide a summary of his new leads, pending leads, follow up cases and (if possible) reminders to contact clients who have not been contacted for x number of days/weeks/months based on eg. Last sale/quote date (workflow related) IF ENABLED, sales executive will be able to compare his performance with the others in the team he is in "Message to the team" function for "online" Sales Manager updates Management General Manager Homepage Front page will provide a summary of the entire company, with individual drill-down capabilities to product/sales team manager/Sales Executive. Statistics for total leads/task/contacts for individual teams and as an entire company, with charts to show daily/weekly/monthly/quarterly performance on the various factors. Summary of all aging/hottest products/etc and other custom analytics that are relevant to management and strategic planning. This is what I can think up of so far, will ask my team for feedback on the v5.0 UI and pass it along. _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Saint Sent: 20 March 2006 21:29 To: LANCER : Developers List Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Homepage - UI Discussion Folks.. Send in your thoughts about what do you wish to see in the vtiger home page. We are trying to identify a common pattern of requirement from all your inputs. For example, as a sales person, what you wish to see in the home page (like Pending tasks to be given more importance.. pending leads and contacts to be shown next etc).. or, as a customer support guy, what you wish to see.. and more. You can send in your general thoughts about home page too. :-) thanks, Saint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and then there was talk about svn. I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a repository somewhere? Thanks for the help, JLee -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 230 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/3dc9b8ac/attachment-0003.vcf From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org Wed Mar 22 12:33:45 2006 From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:33:45 +0100 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Vote vote vote !!! Message-ID: <4421B4A9.1050008@vtigercrmfrance.org> vtiger is in final phase* Financial Projects* : http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards6.php Make noise ! Vote vote vote!!!! From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 13:20:03 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:20:03 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. Josh Lee wrote: > Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. > > I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by one > of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is going over > the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import and export > will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export what he/she > would not normally have read access to. > > Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the one > on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and > then there was talk about svn. > > I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still > using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one > that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files > included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a > repository somewhere? > Thanks for the help, > JLee > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From jlee at zertis.net Wed Mar 22 13:39:24 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:39:24 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account there? Mike Fedyk wrote: >Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. > >Josh Lee wrote: > > >>Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >> >>I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by one >>of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is going over >>the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import and export >>will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export what he/she >>would not normally have read access to. >> >>Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the one >>on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, and >>then there was talk about svn. >> >>I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of a >>repository somewhere? >>Thanks for the help, >>JLee >> >>_______________________________________________ >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 219 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/4ab240b1/attachment-0003.vcf From jlee at zertis.net Wed Mar 22 14:01:19 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:01:19 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421C92F.7040405@zertis.net> Ok, so where is the new svn Repository at, and how do I access it? Josh Lee wrote: > Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't > work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account > there? > > > Mike Fedyk wrote: > >> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. >> >> Josh Lee wrote: >> >> >>> Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >>> >>> I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by >>> one of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is >>> going over the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import >>> and export will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export >>> what he/she would not normally have read access to. >>> >>> Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the >>> one on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, >>> and then there was talk about svn. >>> >>> I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>> using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>> that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>> included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of >>> a repository somewhere? >>> Thanks for the help, >>> JLee >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >>> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >>> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> > > >_______________________________________________ >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > -- Josh Lee Software Engineer Zertis Technologies, LLC 205.422.5279 jlee at zertis.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jlee.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 219 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20060322/ef17917d/attachment-0003.vcf From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 14:07:31 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:07:31 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Alpha 2 released! In-Reply-To: <4421C92F.7040405@zertis.net> References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com> <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <4421C40C.2080103@zertis.net> <4421C92F.7040405@zertis.net> Message-ID: <4421CAA3.2010405@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnUsage There is a link from the home page also.. Josh Lee wrote: > Ok, so where is the new svn Repository at, and how do I access it? > > > Josh Lee wrote: > >> Darn, I've been out of it, thanks, my normal username jlee, doesn't >> work when I click Login. Does someone need to set me up an account >> there? >> >> >> Mike Fedyk wrote: >> >>> Everything you need should be at vtiger.fosslabs.com. >>> >>> Josh Lee wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hey again everyone, I have been out of the loop for a while. >>>> >>>> I am about to start working on a alpha 5, once again motivated by >>>> one of our clients. One of the first things I will be doing is >>>> going over the permissions with a fine tooth comb. For one, Import >>>> and export will abide to permissions so that a user cannot export >>>> what he/she would not normally have read access to. >>>> >>>> Anyhow, I downloaded the latest alpha, however it is not like the >>>> one on the demo. I know that I was given cvs access a while back, >>>> and then there was talk about svn. >>>> >>>> I am sorry I am so out of the loop, but for one, are you guys still >>>> using cvs or svn? Also where can I get the latest version, the one >>>> that will function like the demo, with the rest of the JS files >>>> included? Is there a link for alpha 5.3 ? Or can I check it out of >>>> a repository somewhere? >>>> Thanks for the help, >>>> JLee >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >>>> scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your >>>> hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho >>>> Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >>> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >>> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the >> AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE >> instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From vtiger at leev.net Wed Mar 22 15:03:56 2006 From: vtiger at leev.net (Lee Valentine) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:03:56 +1000 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> Hi, To implement authentication into SOAP services, the servers can be placed in a director such as soap/ and place htaccess authentication in the directory. The soap client provides a function to authenticate: $client = new soapclient( 'http://server.com/crm/soap/server.php', ... ); $client->setCredentials('username', 'password'); .htaccess: AuthName "SOAP" AuthType Basic AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd Require valid-user Another method to use would be to place the code below at the top of the soap server and place the username/password in variables in the config. This method has prerequisites: "The $PHP_AUTH_USER, $PHP_AUTH_PW and $PHP_AUTH_TYPE global variables are only available when PHP is installed as a module. If you're using the CGI version of PHP, you will be limited to Web server-based authentication or other custom types of authentication (such as using HTML forms) to match passwords in a database." config: $soap_username = 'username'; $soap_password = 'password'; soap/server.php: if ( ( !isset( $PHP_AUTH_USER )) || (!isset($PHP_AUTH_PW)) || ( $PHP_AUTH_USER != $soap_username ) || ( $PHP_AUTH_PW != $soap_password ) ) { header( 'WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm="SOAP"' ); header( 'HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized' ); echo 'Authorization Required.'; exit; } I have implemented the first method and it works fine. Thanks, Lee On Mar 22 12:06, Joao Oliveira wrote: > Hello Mike. > > Thanks for the ansewer. > > I'm doing some search to evaluate how hard is to implement a session > mechanism in SOAP services in PHP. > > I'll post my results. > > In mean time, if someone has suggestions, please do post them. > > And about my sugestion regarding $_SERVER[], forget it. I thought that it > was possible to define there some custom server global variables, but it > isn't. > > Best Regards > Jo?o Oliveira > > On 3/22/06, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > > How hard is it to do the authentication code? If it can't be done > > quickly then let's create a variable that turns soap off when (so > > upgrades will disable soap even if the new variable is not in config.php). > > > > Joao Oliveira wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I've been looking at vtiger SOAP (version 4.2.x and 5 alpha), and i've > > > realized that there is an authentication mechanism for them, but it > > > only returns true or false... > > > > > > Once that you guys have been doing a great effort in order to improve > > > security, but i think that all security is possible to bypass by > > > accessing by SOAP Services. Am I wrong ? > > > > > > for example... > > > > > > method DeleteTasks($username,$crmid) in vtigerolservice.php > > > > > > If i'm a stranger, i still can do something like DeleteTasks('admin', > > > 1); without any kind of authentication ... > > > > > > IMHO, it should be used any kind of token authentication and saved in > > > $_SERVER[] variable, or authenticate an user with username/password > > > each time one method is call. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Jo?o Oliveira. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling > > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX > > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > _______________________________________________ > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down > > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, > > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! > > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt > > > _______________________________________________ > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 18:31:27 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:31:27 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SOAP services In-Reply-To: <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> References: <86f04e340603210643g15827103ua65cccbc46a5d036@mail.gmail.com> <442106C8.6050805@mikefedyk.com> <86f04e340603220406g2351b537ld6daab15425b4462@mail.gmail.com> <20060322230356.GA16117@flame.leev.net> Message-ID: <4422087F.3050801@mikefedyk.com> Lee Valentine wrote: > Hi, > > To implement authentication into SOAP services, the servers can be placed in a director such as soap/ and place > htaccess authentication in the directory. The soap client provides a function to authenticate: > > $client = new soapclient( 'http://server.com/crm/soap/server.php', ... ); > $client->setCredentials('username', 'password'); > > .htaccess: > AuthName "SOAP" > AuthType Basic > AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd > Require valid-user > > Another method to use would be to place the code below at the top of the soap server and place the > username/password in variables in the config. This method has prerequisites: > > "The $PHP_AUTH_USER, $PHP_AUTH_PW and $PHP_AUTH_TYPE global variables are only available when PHP is installed as a > module. If you're using the CGI version of PHP, you will be limited to Web server-based authentication or other custom > types of authentication (such as using HTML forms) to match passwords in a database." I really don't want vtiger to authenticate against the web server, or a htpasswd file. We should authenticate SOAP against the vtiger users stored in the vtiger database, though this may be an interim solution. Can you ready a patch that takes care of the first option? It's better than what we have now.. Also I don't want to do anything that causes vtiger to depend on mod_php. I will have my test server running php over fastcgi via suexec soon in my development environment as this seems to be the only sane way to securely run a php web server. Mike From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 19:23:38 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:23:38 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for Unicode-readyAlphabeticalSearch(); In-Reply-To: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> References: <200603221141.k2MBf3hf020308@relay1.macomnet.ru> Message-ID: <442214BA.7080905@mikefedyk.com> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4397 Next time, please create a new ticket and attach your patch there. Thanks for the patch. Mike Anthony V. Scray wrote: >> Can you post it in unified diff format (diff -u)? >> > Yes. Here is "unified" version. ("context" value for diff -u is 3) > > Previous version I made with wiki guide > http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/HowToGeneratePatchWithWinMerge. > > >> The patch looks good. If you can use the template to produce >> the output it would be even better. >> > Currently I'am not familiar with template engine :( Maybe later.. > > >> I'll take it either way though. >> > Thanks. > > >> Mike >> >> ?????? wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> >>> Here is my patch for AlphabeticalSearch function. >>> >>> Improvements: >>> 1. Alphabetical search bar values stored in /include/$lang.lang.php >>> file and can be easily localized or even freely modified. >>> 2. AlphabeticalSearch function now work with multibyte (or >>> multicharacter) values. It allows to use UTF-8 (16?) >>> >> encoding. Or to use multiletter links. >> >>> P.S. This is my first patch for vTiger CRM. Community comments (and >>> criticism:) are welcome. >>> >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> -- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >>> >> scribbling >> >>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? >>> >> Try the AJAX >> >>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still >> scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your >> hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho >> Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com Wed Mar 22 20:52:10 2006 From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:52:10 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4398 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: data/CRMEntity.php modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php schema/DatabaseSchema.xml In-Reply-To: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> References: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> Message-ID: <4422297A.90309@mikefedyk.com> Jeff, is there a way I can cherry pick parts of changesets from a branch with the svn merge command? vtigercrm-commits at vtiger.fosslabs.com wrote: > Author: mfedyk > Date: Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > New Revision: 4398 > > Log: > merge the non-postgres specific changes from 4.2_postgresql_integration. refs #17 and #62 > > Modified: > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php > vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/data/CRMEntity.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -272,7 +272,7 @@ > } > > //This check is done for products. > - if($module == 'Products' || $module == 'Notes' || $module =='Faq') > + if($module == 'Products' || $module == 'Notes' || $module =='Faq' || $module == 'PriceBook' || $module == 'Vendor' || $module == 'Emails') > { > $vtlog->logthis("module is =".$module,'info'); > $ownerid = $current_user->id; > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -15,8 +15,9 @@ > //if($_REQUEST['module']=='Users') > // $sql = "insert into salesmanactivityrel values (". $_REQUEST["entityid"] .",".$_REQUEST["parid"] .")"; > //else > +if($_REQUEST['module']=='Potentials') > $sql = "insert into contpotentialrel values (". $_REQUEST["entityid"] .",".$_REQUEST["parid"] .")"; > -$adb->query($sql); > +else > $sql = "insert into seproductsrel values (". $_REQUEST["parid"] .",".$_REQUEST["entityid"] .")"; > $adb->query($sql); > header("Location: index.php?action=DetailView&module=Potentials&record=".$_REQUEST["parid"]); > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -571,6 +571,7 @@ > global $adb; > $sqldelete = "delete from activitygrouprelation where activityid=".$activityid; > $adb->query($sqldelete); > + if($groupname == '') return; > $sql = "insert into activitygrouprelation values (".$activityid .",'" .$groupname ."')"; > $adb->query($sql); > > > Modified: vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml > ============================================================================== > --- vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml (original) > +++ vtigercrm/branches/4.2/schema/DatabaseSchema.xml Wed Mar 22 21:48:54 2006 > @@ -160,7 +160,7 @@ > Type=InnoDB > modifiedby > > - > + > tabid > > > @@ -225,7 +225,7 @@ > > fieldname > > - > + > tabid > block > displaytype > @@ -726,7 +726,6 @@ > > > > - > > > > @@ -808,10 +807,10 @@ > Type=InnoDB > accountid > > - > + > potentialid > > - > + > sales_stage > > Type=InnoDB > @@ -845,7 +844,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -945,7 +944,7 @@ > activityid > subject > > - > + > activitytype > date_start > > @@ -957,10 +956,10 @@ > date_start > time_start > > - > + > eventstatus > > - > + > status > eventstatus > > @@ -1003,7 +1002,7 @@ > > > Type=InnoDB > - > + > attachmentsid > > > @@ -1044,7 +1043,7 @@ > Type=InnoDB > crmid > > - > + > attachmentsid > crmid > > @@ -1180,7 +1179,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -1582,7 +1581,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > > @@ -1757,7 +1756,7 @@ > > ticketid > > - > + > status > > > @@ -1788,6 +1787,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -2381,6 +2381,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -3033,7 +3034,7 @@ > > > > - > + > > > Type=InnoDB > @@ -3572,7 +3573,7 @@ > > > > - > + > profileid > tabid > > @@ -3607,11 +3608,11 @@ > tabid > fieldname > > - > + > tabid > profileid > > - > + > visible > profileid > > @@ -3657,10 +3658,10 @@ > tabid > fieldid > > - > + > tabid > > - > + > visible > fieldid > > @@ -3793,7 +3794,7 @@ > > > > - > + > relation_id > > > @@ -4050,10 +4051,10 @@ > > > > - > + > quotestage > > - > + > potentialid > > > @@ -4799,10 +4800,10 @@ > > > > - > + > > > - > + > > > cvid > @@ -4873,6 +4874,7 @@ > > > > + > > > > @@ -5070,10 +5072,10 @@ > > > > - > + > > > - > + > > > datefilterid > > > _______________________________________________ > vtigercrm-commits mailing list > vtigercrm-commits at lists.vtigercrm.com > http://lists.vtigercrm.com/mailman/listinfo/vtigercrm-commits > > From philip at vtiger.com Thu Mar 23 00:04:02 2006 From: philip at vtiger.com (philip at vtiger.com) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:04:02 -0800 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. Message-ID: <10a2621b1ce.-3260762611567805994.-1177807435764824079@@vtiger.com> Hi Team, Yesterday we have updated vtigerCRM 5 alpha3 demo at the following url: http://vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php. The reason behind for updating the demo is mainly to get the communitysuggestions and feedback so that we can have a fairlystable release vtigerCRM 5 Beta release. So feel free to test the demo and post bugs/feedback @ http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/newticket While submitting a ticket please ensure that : Select the version as 5.0.0 from the Version field Referto view ticketshttp://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&status=closed&group=version&version=5.0.0&order=statusbefore reporting a new ticket to avoid duplicate tickets. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's more or less the same for these module_map names: accounts activity contact customview email (i would include tables starting with mail also) notes products quotes reports rss users Can this be used as references? Or use all tables originating from the module, for example from squirrelmail in one prefix table name. > .vti_ as default > .vti_a_ for addon > .vti_p_ for plugin > .vti_{modulename}_ for module Best regards, Remco Gerbrands -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Mike Fedyk Verzonden: woensdag 22 maart 2006 9:02 Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] prefix table in database A lot of those tables store many-many relationships between various modules. Which module owns a table when it references to more than one module? I've thought about this before but that really killed the idea for me. If a solution or policy can be made that solves it, then it looks much more interesting. Also I absolutely do not like storing version numbers in table or db names. The migration from 4.2.[0123] should be able to be done by testing for some unique structure that is not in that version and changing it to the current version. Also adodb's data dictionary functions may be able to do this for us. I just want to make sure it does it in a lossless fashion. Mike From jtk at yahoo.com Thu Mar 23 10:34:32 2006 From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:34:32 -0500 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] [Vtigercrm-commits] [vtiger-commits] r4398 - in /vtigercrm/branches/4.2: data/CRMEntity.php modules/Potentials/updateRelations.php modules/Users/UserInfoUtil.php schema/DatabaseSchema.xml References: <20060323044859.D923C4EAD0A@vtiger.fosslabs.com> <4422297A.90309@mikefedyk.com> Message-ID: Mike Fedyk wrote: > Jeff, is there a way I can cherry pick parts of changesets from a branch > with the svn merge command? The way I wrote up the svn merge example, with working-copy merges, would allow you to cherrypick in the following ways (possibly combining ways): a) only include selected files in your svn merge command, pulling only changes to that file into your working copy b) svn merge a smaller revision range, to get a few changesets instead of many. c) after merging changes to your working copy, svn diff your working copy, and manually undo certain changes (reducing the diff to your URL at rev HEAD), before committing. You have complete flexibility with what you commit, svn merge to working copy simply fetches applicable changes for you. From ncknight at pacific.net.sg Thu Mar 23 23:01:22 2006 From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:01:22 +0700 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. In-Reply-To: <10a2621b1ce.-3260762611567805994.-1177807435764824079@@vtiger.com> Message-ID: <003b01c64f10$f11f01d0$4e64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Hello Philip, How would I and my UI team be able to submit reviews and comments on the UI? For example, if there is a screen that I mention and need to provide recommendations for? With my clients we would usually perform screen captures and provide comments, circles-and-arrows and other markups for rapid review. Please advice. _____ From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of philip at vtiger.com Sent: 23 March 2006 15:04 To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 : Start testing in our alpha 3 demo setup. Hi Team, Yesterday we have updated vtigerCRM 5 alpha3 demo at the following url: http://vtiger.com/products/crm/demo_5alpha/index.php. The reason behind for updating the demo is mainly to get the community suggestions and feedback so that we can have a fairly stable release vtigerCRM 5 Beta release. So feel free to test the demo and post bugs/feedback @ http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/newticket While submitting a ticket please ensure that : * Select the version as 5.0.0 from the Version field * Refer to view tickets http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/query?status=new&status=assigned &status=reopened&status=closed&group=version&version=5.0.0&order=status before reporting a new ticket to avoid duplicate tickets. Regards, Philip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark them as applicable to version 5.0.0. http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/report The caveat is that the vtiger team is not (yet) using trac tickets and milestones to document their good and rapid work. I think that's a mistake and a lost opportunity, but I wasn't going to push the issue until vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 is imminent. Once the 5.0.0 version is in beta, we as a community have to apply the same disciplines that are being used to stabilize vtigercrm/branches/4.2 to good effect. From jlee at zertis.net Fri Mar 24 13:55:36 2006 From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:55:36 -0600 Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 alpha 3 In-Reply-To: References: <003b01c64f10$f11f01d0$4e64a8c0@ifoundriest30> Message-ID: <44246AD8.9070707@zertis.net> I have a client who wants v5alpha3, so I am turning into a stable version for them. Here are some diffs for some patches. I do not have the time to create my own branch and submit these. Please someone take the time to commit these, to save everyone else the work. Index: includes/database/PearDatabase.php =================================================================== --- includes/database/PearDatabase.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/database/PearDatabase.php (working copy) @@ -435,7 +437,9 @@ /* ADODB newly added. replacement for mysql_result() */ function query_result(&$result, $row, $col=0) + if(!$result) + return null; //$this->println("ADODB query_result r=".$row." c=".$col); $result->Move($row); $rowdata = $this->change_key_case($result->FetchRow()); Index: includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php =================================================================== --- includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php (working copy) @@ -861,9 +861,9 @@ for($i=0; $i<$num_row; $i++) { $rel_tab_id = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"related_tabid"); - echo '
'.$rel_tab_id.'
'; + //echo '
'.$rel_tab_id.'
'; $funtion_name = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"name"); - echo '
'.$funtion_name.'
'; +// echo '
'.$funtion_name.'
'; $label = $adb->query_result($result,$i,"label"); if($rel_tab_id != 0) { Index: includes/utils/export.php =================================================================== --- includes/utils/export.php (revision 4391) +++ includes/utils/export.php (working copy) @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ require_once('modules/Potentials/Opportunity.php'); require_once('modules/Users/User.php'); require_once('modules/Products/Product.php'); - +require_once 'include/utils/UserInfoUtil.php'; global $allow_exports; session_start(); @@ -202,10 +204,12 @@ */ $order_by = ""; - $query = $focus->create_export_query($order_by,$where); - + // I made a new function for security during exporting. It makes sure they only have access + // to export what they would have access to read. Previous to this, anyone who had export writes, could export anything. + $query = $focus->create_export_query($order_by,$where); + $clause = getExportSecurityClause($type); + $query .= "\n and (\n $clause \n)"; + //print "
";
+       //print "
";
        //print $query;

        $result = $adb->query($query,true,"Error exporting $type: 
"."
$query");

Index: utils/UserInfoUtil.php
===================================================================
--- utils/UserInfoUtil.php      (revision 4391)
+++ utils/UserInfoUtil.php      (working copy)
@@ -3730,7 +3730,37 @@
        }
        return $list;
 }
+function getExportSecurityClause($module) {
+       global $current_user;

+       $tabid=getTabid($module);
+       global $current_user;
+       if($current_user)
+       {
+               
require('user_privileges/user_privileges_'.$current_user->id.'.php');
+               
require('user_privileges/sharing_privileges_'.$current_user->id.'.php');
+       }
+
+       $clause = "crmentity.smownerid in(".$current_user->id.") or 
crmentity.smownerid in(select user2role.userid from user2role inner join 
users on users.id=user2role.userid inner join role on 
role.roleid=user2role.roleid where role.parentrole like 
'".$current_user_parent_role_seq."::%') or crmentity.smownerid in(select 
shareduserid from tmp_read_user_sharing_per where 
userid=".$current_user->id." and tabid=".$tabid.")";
+       return $clause;
+}
 function getListViewSecurityParameter($module)
 {
        global $adb;


Hope this helps.
Josh Lee

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sun Mar 26 14:27:33 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:27:33 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility
In-Reply-To: 
References: <49216030603210408m3d60fc4bk532d4a6ec3d29b9d@mail.gmail.com>
	
Message-ID: <49216030603261427pd3c0c1alef30958f9413be12@mail.gmail.com>

SVG is client-side graphs (or charting in this case)

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVG

firefox 1.5 support SVG, (IE6 support it with the adobe plugin)

I heard somewhere that image_graph was planned to support output in SVG...


/sak

On 3/22/06, Michel JACQUEMES  wrote:
> I do agree with you Sergio, I suppose that Fathi and others will have some
> work to do on that subject. I don't have enough Linux knowledge to pretend
> package it for both systems. May be that can be done as for jpgraph, I have
> not checked Pear template dependencies.
>
> What do you mean by SVG?
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> > developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Sergio A. Kessler
> > Envoy?: mardi 21 mars 2006 13:09
> > ?: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Objet: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP 5 compatibility
> >
> > how will this be integrated in the final release ?
> >
> > because I think is not fair to ask the users installing vtigercrm, to
> > execute command line commands to install stuff...
> > I have no problem doing `pear install foo`, but I bet many users will
> > find this complicated while others will find this simply not possible
> > (because of restrictions on server)
> >
> > I think there should be a 'pear' folder in the vtigercrm structure to
> > put pear files there
> > (and remember to set the include_path with ini_set in the beggining to
> > take this files)
> >
> > btw, michel you are doing a great job here !
> > does image_graph output to SVG ?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Mar 28 19:22:29 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (gopals at vtiger.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:22:29 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] v5 API Documentation
Message-ID: <10a44061414.6947144176994677531.944817448814908012@@vtiger.com>

Dear Team,

As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on accomplishing this task.

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Mar 30 10:01:02 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:31:02 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks better?
Message-ID: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>

Folks

Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these color 
variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks 
appealing to you..

thanks,
Saint


*Model A*


or this one..?

*Model B

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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Thu Mar 30 10:55:13 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:55:13 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C2991.1040101@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi saint, my vote go to model A, more soft for me.
A?ssa
Saint a ?crit :

> Folks
>
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
> working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these 
> color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample 
> looks appealing to you..
>
> thanks,
> Saint
>
>
> *Model A*
>
>
> or this one..?
>
> *Model B
>
> *
>
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From jlee at zertis.net  Thu Mar 30 11:12:54 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:12:54 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>

Saint wrote:

> Folks
>
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are 
> working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these 
> color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample 
> looks appealing to you..
>
> thanks,
> Saint
>
>
> *Model A*
>
>
> or this one..?
>
> *Model B
>
> *
>
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>
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>
Heh, I like B, it is bolder.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From info at GariDigital.com  Thu Mar 30 11:19:49 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:19:49 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com> <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>

I like model A

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 3/30/06, Josh Lee  wrote:
>
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Folks
> >
> > Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are
> > working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these
> > color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample
> > looks appealing to you..
> >
> > thanks,
> > Saint
> >
> >
> > *Model A*
> >
> >
> > or this one..?
> >
> > *Model B
> >
> > *
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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> >
> Heh, I like B, it is bolder.
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
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From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Thu Mar 30 12:16:56 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:16:56 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com> <442C2DB6.9060007@zertis.net>
	<677641040603301119x54b10e65tbf0161e61952bde1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <994473020603301216u43171a5bod8aca1c60bd30949@mail.gmail.com>

I like A better.    More business like in my opinion.


Jamie


On 3/30/06, Jorge Garifuna  wrote:
>
> I like model A
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com
>
>
> On 3/30/06, Josh Lee  wrote:
> >
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Folks
> > >
> > > Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are
> > > working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these
> > > color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample
> > > looks appealing to you..
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Saint
> > >
> > >
> > > *Model A*
> > >
> > >
> > > or this one..?
> > >
> > > *Model B
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> >
> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
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> > >
> > Heh, I like B, it is bolder.
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
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From info at adlibweb.com  Thu Mar 30 12:19:04 2006
From: info at adlibweb.com (adlibweb)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>

Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out better), better blending, green button stands out better.

n
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Saint 
  To: vtiger-crm ; LANCER : Developers List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:01 PM
  Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks better?


  Folks

  Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are working on. We started the color with blue.. and came across these color variants Model A and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks appealing to you..

  thanks,
  Saint


  Model A


  or this one..?

  Model B




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From nolan at peaceworks.ca  Thu Mar 30 12:27:59 2006
From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:27:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <442C3F4F.9030001@peaceworks.ca>

yup... A

peace,
nokes

Saint wrote:
> Folks
> 
> Here is the resized preview of new configuration wizard, that we are working on. 
> We started the color with blue.. and came across these color variants Model A 
> and Model B. Want to know which color sample looks appealing to you..
> 
> thanks,
> Saint
> 
> 
> *Model A*
> 
> 
> or this one..?
> 
> *Model B
> 
> *
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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From rrg at r2g.nl  Thu Mar 30 13:05:48 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Remco R. Gerbrands)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:05:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
	<009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
Message-ID: <20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200, adlibweb wrote
> Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out 
> better), better blending, green button stands out better.


Agree, A is better.

Remco

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From libregeek at gmail.com  Thu Mar 30 21:48:29 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:18:29 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Config Wiz - which color looks
	better?
In-Reply-To: <20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>
References: <442C1CDE.7040609@vtiger.com>
	<009001c65437$316317b0$4201a8c0@adlib1>
	<20060330210506.M11771@www.r2g.nl>
Message-ID: <2315046d0603302148q7606cd2ap3c326da2cd79a913@mail.gmail.com>

A looks cool and elegant.
regards
Manilal

On 31/03/06, Remco R. Gerbrands  wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:19:04 +0200, adlibweb wrote
> > Got to be A.  Better resolution of colors (menu items stand out
> > better), better blending, green button stands out better.
>
>
> Agree, A is better.
>
> Remco
>
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Mar 31 02:35:08 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:35:08 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
Message-ID: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other 
lang for release.

See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with english.

For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the 
link go to "Hacking Attempt".

Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.

UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.

Screenshot calendar1.jpg, since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format 
here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's 
Day month year).

The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway 
harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as 
vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on 
vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !


A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta 
test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open 
the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and 
relation to promote vtiger outside community.

Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
A?ssa

.
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From joaopcoliveira at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 03:21:58 2006
From: joaopcoliveira at gmail.com (Joao Oliveira)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:21:58 +0100
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I totally agree with you A?ssa.
I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.

If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.

Best Regards
Jo?o Oliveira.

On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
>
> Hi team,
> i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> lang for release.
>
> See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
>
> For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> link go to "Hacking Attempt".
>
> Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
>
> UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
>
> Screenshot calendar1.jpg, since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> Day month year).
>
> The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
>
>
> A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> relation to promote vtiger outside community.
>
> Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> A?ssa
>
> .
>
>
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From info at adlibweb.com  Fri Mar 31 03:27:01 2006
From: info at adlibweb.com (adlibweb)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:27:01 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>

And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joao Oliveira 
  To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang


  Hello all,

  I totally agree with you A?ssa. 
  I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.

  If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.

  Best Regards
  Jo?o Oliveira.


  On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
    Hi team,
    i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
    lang for release.

    See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with english.

    For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the 
    link go to "Hacking Attempt".

    Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.

    UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.

    Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
    here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
    Day month year).

    The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
    harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
    vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
    vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !


    A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta 
    test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
    the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
    relation to promote vtiger outside community.

    Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english 
    A?ssa

    .


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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 04:20:34 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:20:34 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>
	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>
Message-ID: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>

once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak

On 3/31/06, adlibweb  wrote:
>
> And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joao Oliveira
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
>
> Hello all,
>
> I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>
> If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
> all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>
> Best Regards
> Jo?o Oliveira.
>
>
> On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
> > Hi team,
> > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > lang for release.
> >
> > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
> >
> > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> >
> > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
> >
> > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> >
> > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > Day month year).
> >
> > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> >
> >
> > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> >
> > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > A?ssa
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>
>
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From richie at vtiger.com  Fri Mar 31 05:30:43 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:30:43 -0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
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That, is not the exact fact. 
We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues at our end. Once we resolve those, 
we will have it integrated into the product. 
 
/sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time. 
internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we have been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see for everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. Every contribution is important to us and we try hard to 
do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to integrate all of them quickly. 
MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have 
worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the issues. We still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon with his help. 
 
 
Thanks, 
Richie




---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ---- 

  once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak

On 3/31/06, adlibweb <info at adlibweb.com> wrote:
>
> And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joao Oliveira
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
>
> Hello all,
>
> I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>
> If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to review
> all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>
> Best Regards
> Jo?o Oliveira.
>
>
> On 3/31/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
> > Hi team,
> > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > lang for release.
> >
> > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> english.
> >
> > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> >
> > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for translaters.
> >
> > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> >
> > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > Day month year).
> >
> > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> >
> >
> > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> >
> > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > A?ssa
> >
> > .
> >
> >
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Mar 31 07:48:20 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:48:20 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
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richie, I din't know that, my apologies...


On 3/31/06, Richie  wrote:
> That, is not the exact fact.
> We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues at
> our end. Once we resolve those,
> we will have it integrated into the product.
>
> /sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time.
> internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we have
> been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see for
> everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. Every
> contribution is important to us and we try hard to
> do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to integrate
> all of them quickly.
> MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have
> worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the issues. We
> still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon with his help.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Sergio A. Kessler wrote ----
>
>
>  once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
> is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(
>
> /sak
>
> On 3/31/06, adlibweb  wrote:
> >
> > And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joao Oliveira
> > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I totally agree with you A?ssa.
> > I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries) vtiger will
> > loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
> >
> > If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good time to
> review
> > all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jo?o Oliveira.
> >
> >
> > On 3/31/06, Abos  wrote:
> > > Hi team,
> > > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think about other
> > > lang for release.
> > >
> > > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
> > english.
> > >
> > > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link too, so the
> > > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
> > >
> > > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for
> translaters.
> > >
> > > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
> > >
> > > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english date format
> > > here, in some others country we use different format (for france, it's
> > > Day month year).
> > >
> > > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call, Meeting... Alway
> > > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded string as
> > > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of expectations on
> > > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
> > >
> > >
> > > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is on beta
> > > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after feedback i open
> > > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial papers, and
> > > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
> > > A?ssa
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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From rrg at r2g.nl  Fri Mar 31 05:29:44 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:29:44 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
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Well,

What is against implementing gettext solution from mike into vtigercrm v5?
Not in v4 as that's stable and this would be a new feature: easier
translations.
So what can I do to get this implemented?

Remco


[/sak wrote:]
once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using gettext,
is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(

/sak