[Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 already?

Mon Jun 5 03:26:07 PDT 2006

Fair enough team. I stand convinced. 
Allan let me know when you want to get it done. 

As far as we are concerned, I think we have the installer integrated already so doing it again will not be a problem. 

What I would suggest though is that we get a RCx out and then go with the release announcement for 4.2.x. 

Please Note: I am not aware of any migration-related changes done to 4.2.4. 
If there be any changes, kindly intimate please. 

Allan, we are ready to go when you are. 

Richie

---- Jamie Jackson&lt;jamieinnh at gmail.com&gt; wrote ---- 

Here is a recent thread in the forums asking about this release.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I think this shows that the community still expects and wants to maintain this branch.

 http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6964&amp;highlight=

Jamie

On 6/2/06, Joel Rydbeck &lt; Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com&gt; wrote:Richie,

I think its important to voice in here on this topic.&nbsp;&nbsp;CRM systems are complex to install and integrate into organizations (and I don't mean technically, process wise they are a very big change).&nbsp;&nbsp;That said, the shift from vTigerCRM version 4.x to 5.x is very dramatic (e.g. entirely new UI, etc.).&nbsp;&nbsp;To expect users to stay on the latest and greatest --particularly when it hasn't yet been released does not work in most industries.&nbsp;&nbsp;Once an organization has a solution in place that works, they typically don't like to move from that until feature set requires them to do so.&nbsp;&nbsp;The expense to re-train employees is often significant. 

That said, if vTigerCRM would like to establish a place for itself in the enterprise, its important that legacy product (and I think its important to acknowledge that 4.2.3 is still the latest stable release) continue to be supported.&nbsp;&nbsp;There are still a lot of Apache 1.3 users out there even though 2.0 has been out for years.&nbsp;&nbsp;There's a lot of money in legacy support.

My customer base just got aclimated to the 4.2.x release, I'm not about to change everything on them just to put them on 5.&nbsp;&nbsp;From a business standpoint it just doesn't make sense.&nbsp;&nbsp;Long term there are some great new features we would like to migrate to, but until the cost to migrate makes business sense I have no intention of forcing them up just to keep up with the latest &amp; greatest. 

Regards,

- Joel

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From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Richie 
Sent: Fri 6/2/2006 7:16 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 already?

 Hi Team!

Allan, I just now saw your mail. I had taken the day off so the delay.
Thanks for taking the initiative. I have a few questions though.

I would like to understand how vtigercrm-4.2.4 will be useful in the long run? 
We have vtigercrm 5 beta out already and in a month's time, we will give out the Release version. Even in the Beta, we have the migration support so all those who are in the 4.2.x series can directly migrate.

Kindly clarify. 
I would request that we have this sorted out and then go for a 4.2.4 release please.

At the time, the issue of 4.2.4 was raised, I do understand it was pertinent as v5 was still a long way to go. But now, do you still feel it is pertinent? 

Richie

---- Allan Bush&lt;allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com&gt; wrote ----

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks guys,

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I've tagged and exported 4.2.4 (without changes) and it's ready to go.
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I also created some release notes, attached to this email if anyone
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;has any input on them.

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I sent this information along with the packaged release to richie but 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;as he seems to be unresponsive on this release I'm not counting on him
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to get it out in a timely manner. I'd like to put the release on the
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;trac system, if the admin is alright with that please email me 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;directly and I'll get you the files, if not I'll just attach it to the
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;vtiger message board.

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On a side note the trac ticket system should be modified to remove
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4.2.4 as a milestone and add it as a version (and probably remove the 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4.2.4rc's well we're at it), if that can be done without messing up
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the existing tickets.

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Allan

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;On 5/30/06, Jeff Kowalczyk &lt;jtk at yahoo.com &gt; wrote:
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; Brian Devendorf wrote:
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; &gt; I would prefer 4.2.4 gets released, as 4.2.3 has so many known bugs.
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; &gt; I think it would focus the bug reporting for vtiger 4 on the bugs 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; &gt; that still exist in the product.
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; Sure, its always good to have extra point releases to eliminate patch
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; trading. vtigercrm-4.2.5 will likely follow soon after. 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; Based on past tags, our procedure was to put the branch in the exact form
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; used for release, then copy to a tag using the command:
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; # svn cp (url)/vtigercrm/branches/4.2.4 (url)/vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm- 4.2.4 -m 'Tag 4.2.4 for release'
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; Ideally (and we may not be there yet), a release fileset is a
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; vtigercrm-4.2.4.tar.gz and vtigercrm-4.2.4.zip made from:
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; # svn export (url)vtigercrm/tags/vtigercrm- 4.2.4
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; With no post processing. I guess for .exe installers (if used), that's an
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; exeption to the rule.
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; Unless there are any changes to forward port to branches/4.2, we finally 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; svn rm the branches/4.2.4.
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt; Thanks for doing the release, Allan.
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;
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