From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr  3 04:15:46 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:15:46 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <10a507fa4a9.3228964008498662867.8913703528505651198@@vtiger.com>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>	<49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
	<10a507fa4a9.3228964008498662867.8913703528505651198@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443103E2.9090300@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi,
because i have often discussions with Richie, i can tell : the vtiger 
team is really open and listen users. If you really test vtiger 5, you 
can see the alpha version as less bug than 4.2.3.
An exemple on vtiger crm 4.x, if you have a lead with description 
contain " or ', when convert, you loose the data (you don't loose 
really, but the lead is marked as deleted, and no account created), it's 
now correct, and vtiger crm is still in alpha. I have a lot of other 
exemple, if you create a customview, with custom field, you obtain an 
sql error, in 5 alpha, that work.

No free critics, like we say in france, easy to critic, difficult to do.
Telling vtiger crm is not 100% translatable is honest, all can see that 
and know that, telling vtiger team do not follow the community is not 
justice.

Sak, Juao, Adlibweb, we can joint Kleo efforts 
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5773.

To Saint, have look to the screenshot, some layers are missplaced 
(settings1.gif), and require mouse action to be see. On the 
settings2.gif, can you increase the layer size ?
The fader effect in "my account" is really cool.

To Richie, i have a problem with company info, if i use ', nothing is 
saved, my search on files SaveCompany.php and add2db.php give nothing.
I can spend a part of my nights and week-end to "unharcode" v5 during 
beta phases, please explain the difference between {$MOD.STRINGS} and 
{CMOD.STRINGS}.
Thanks,
A?ssa
 

Richie a ?crit :

> That, is not the exact fact.
> We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues 
> at our end. Once we resolve those,
> we will have it integrated into the product.
>
> /sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time.
> internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we 
> have been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see 
> for everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. 
> Every contribution is important to us and we try hard to
> do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to 
> integrate all of them quickly.
> MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have
> worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the 
> issues. We still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon 
> with his help.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ----
>
>     once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using
>     gettext,
>     is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(
>
>     /sak
>
>     On 3/31/06, adlibweb <info at adlibweb.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > ----- Original Message -----
>     > From: Joao Oliveira
>     > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>     > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
>     > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for
>     other lang
>     >
>     > Hello all,
>     >
>     > I totally agree with you A?ssa.
>     > I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries)
>     vtiger will
>     > loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>     >
>     > If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good
>     time to review
>     > all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>     >
>     > Best Regards
>     > Jo?o Oliveira.
>     >
>     >
>     > On 3/31/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
>     > > Hi team,
>     > > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think
>     about other
>     > > lang for release.
>     > >
>     > > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
>     > english.
>     > >
>     > > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link
>     too, so the
>     > > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
>     > >
>     > > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for
>     translaters.
>     > >
>     > > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
>     > >
>     > > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english
>     date format
>     > > here, in some others country we use different format (for
>     france, it's
>     > > Day month year).
>     > >
>     > > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call,
>     Meeting... Alway
>     > > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded
>     string as
>     > > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of
>     expectations on
>     > > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is
>     on beta
>     > > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after
>     feedback i open
>     > > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial
>     papers, and
>     > > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
>     > >
>     > > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
>     > > A?ssa
>     > >
>     > > .
>     > >
>     > >
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr  3 04:23:56 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:23:56 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] To the vtiger 4.2.4 mainteneers
Message-ID: <443105CC.8070807@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
in 4.x branches (the 5.x branches work correctly), when we create a 
customview with customfields, we obtain an peardatabase error this is a 
beginning of fix posted by raccoon on french forum :

on utils.php search for :
function getListQuery($module,$where='')

replace the query :
$query = "select crmentity.*, quotes.*, quotesbillads.*, 
quotesshipads.*,potential.potentialname,account.accountname from quotes 
inner join crmentity on crmentity.crmid=quotes.quoteid inner join 
quotesbillads on quotes.quoteid=quotesbillads.quotebilladdressid inner 
join quotesshipads on quotes.quoteid=quotesshipads.quoteshipaddressid 
left outer join account on account.accountid=quotes.accountid left outer 
join potential on potential.potentialid=quotes.potentialid where 
crmentity.deleted=0".$where;

by this one :
( left join quotescf on quotes.quoteid = quotescf.quoteid added for 
module quotes)

$query = "select crmentity.*, quotes.*, quotesbillads.*, 
quotesshipads.*,potential.potentialname,account.accountname from quotes 
inner join crmentity on crmentity.crmid=quotes.quoteid inner join 
quotesbillads on quotes.quoteid=quotesbillads.quotebilladdressid inner 
join quotesshipads on quotes.quoteid=quotesshipads.quoteshipaddressid 
left outer join account on account.accountid=quotes.accountid left outer 
join potential on potential.potentialid=quotes.potentialid left join 
quotescf on quotes.quoteid = quotescf.quoteid where crmentity.deleted=0 
".$where;


in v5, you can find the query in /includes/utils/ListViewUtils.php.
Thanks

From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr  3 23:02:24 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 23:02:24 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed
In-Reply-To: <44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.03.21.18.48.23.560464@yahoo.com>
	<44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone out there testing this?

I've run all my tests and don't see any other problems with postgres
and I've given it a quick run through with mysql (again without
problems).

I'm sure there are still a few issues which could be found with more
eyes, but I'd say the changes are ready to be merged back into the
trunk as soon as 4.2.4 is created (any eta on this?).

It may be beneficial to leave the adodb debugging information in (see
ticket #69) until we get closer to the next release (4.2.5) as I find
it to be a huge help in tracking down (database) problems.

On 3/21/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
> > Allan Bush wrote:
> >
> >> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the
> >> installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent,
> >> now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs.
> >>
> >
> > Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an
> > install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't
> > noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful
> > contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger.
> >
> > I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in
> > postgresql).
> Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance.
>
> Mike
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Tue Apr  4 04:02:08 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:02:08 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com>	<pan.2006.03.21.18.48.23.560464@yahoo.com>	<44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
	<3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44325230.4000603@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi allan,
i'm testing with postgre 8.1.
for the moment, i have only (lots) errors messages during install, but 
all is working during use, table are correctly created...
I continue the test.
Cheer,
A?ssa
Allan Bush a ?crit :

>Is anyone out there testing this?
>
>I've run all my tests and don't see any other problems with postgres
>and I've given it a quick run through with mysql (again without
>problems).
>
>I'm sure there are still a few issues which could be found with more
>eyes, but I'd say the changes are ready to be merged back into the
>trunk as soon as 4.2.4 is created (any eta on this?).
>
>It may be beneficial to leave the adodb debugging information in (see
>ticket #69) until we get closer to the next release (4.2.5) as I find
>it to be a huge help in tracking down (database) problems.
>
>On 3/21/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Allan Bush wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the
>>>>installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent,
>>>>now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an
>>>install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't
>>>noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful
>>>contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger.
>>>
>>>I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in
>>>postgresql).
>>>      
>>>
>>Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance.
>>
>>Mike
>>_______________________________________________
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>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>  
>


From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr  4 18:50:48 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:50:48 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
Message-ID: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>

Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?

What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?

Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean 
on the field table?

mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
+--------------------------------------------------+
| typeofdata                                       |
+--------------------------------------------------+
| V~M                                              |
| V~O                                              |
| I~O                                              |
| E~O                                              |
| C~O                                              |
| T~O                                              |
| D~O                                              |
| D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
| N~O                                              |
| D~M                                              |
| D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
| D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
| DT~M~time_start                                  |
| D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
| O~O                                              |
| T~M                                              |
| I~M                                              |
+--------------------------------------------------+
This just confuses the hell out of me.


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr  4 21:30:30 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:30:30 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
In-Reply-To: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA6FaibYlvB0uuS3YI5vyrpQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Josh,

I have not the answer and I asked for explanation 2 month ago. I don't think
there is any, it is more probably some remaining thing from sugarcrm.

I worked a bit on that when migrating to mssql and found that it has to be
combined with uitype field:

 ("D","I","N")  are numeric, ("C","E","O") are not,
 "V" is numeric if uitype in (5,50,52,53,56,57)
 exceptions : tablename="contactdetails" columname="reportsto" uitype=57 ?
 "T" is numeric if uitype = 70

Not sure it helps, isn't it?

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Josh Lee
> Envoy??: mercredi 5 avril 2006 03:51
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com; vtigercrm-
> contributors at lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc?: Jeremy Lowery
> Objet?: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
> 
> Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?
> 
> What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?
> 
> Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean
> on the field table?
> 
> mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | typeofdata                                       |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | V~M                                              |
> | V~O                                              |
> | I~O                                              |
> | E~O                                              |
> | C~O                                              |
> | T~O                                              |
> | D~O                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
> | N~O                                              |
> | D~M                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
> | DT~M~time_start                                  |
> | D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
> | O~O                                              |
> | T~M                                              |
> | I~M                                              |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> This just confuses the hell out of me.
> 
> 
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net




From nolan at peaceworks.ca  Wed Apr  5 01:09:22 2006
From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:09:22 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
In-Reply-To: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
References: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44337B32.7050202@peaceworks.ca>

"O" / "M" seems to mean Optional vs. Mandatory

(M means a required field, and gets the little red star)

I haven't investigated the V/E/I/C/T stuff too much, yet...when creating 
my own fields, I've just mimicked something existing that's similar to 
what I want...

peace,
Nokes


Josh Lee wrote:
> Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?
> 
> What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?
> 
> Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean 
> on the field table?
> 
> mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | typeofdata                                       |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | V~M                                              |
> | V~O                                              |
> | I~O                                              |
> | E~O                                              |
> | C~O                                              |
> | T~O                                              |
> | D~O                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
> | N~O                                              |
> | D~M                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
> | DT~M~time_start                                  |
> | D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
> | O~O                                              |
> | T~M                                              |
> | I~M                                              |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> This just confuses the hell out of me.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Apr  6 06:33:22 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:03:22 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
Message-ID: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>

Guys,

Need your quick help.

We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into one 
UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send mails 
using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming list, 
pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category called 
"Qualified CRM emails".

I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a single 
tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the Inbox tree. 
Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable UI based on 
your views.

- Saint


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From jlee at zertis.net  Thu Apr  6 07:10:42 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:10:42 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>

I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I 
wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail 
for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
Saint wrote:

> Guys,
>
> Need your quick help.
>
> We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into 
> one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send 
> mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming 
> list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category 
> called "Qualified CRM emails".
>
> I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
> version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a 
> single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the 
> Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable 
> UI based on your views.
>
> - Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 07:42:07 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:42:07 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>

I have to agree with Josh,

I like the second one better.   Tabs can be a good thing, or if over used,
can be a bad thing.    The second one is a cleaner, better flow look.

Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it
don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it.


Jamie


On 4/6/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
> wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
> for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > Need your quick help.
> >
> > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into
> > one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
> > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> > called "Qualified CRM emails".
> >
> > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab
> > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the
> > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable
> > UI based on your views.
> >
> > - Saint
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 07:59:52 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:59:52 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>

saint, I also like the 2nd option,

but why not let do that job to the mail server ?

I mean, you just create a "CRM" folder in the mail store (be it pop3
or imap) and be done with that !

you still have to show all the folders, so this way, you knock two
birds with one stone.


/sak

On 4/6/06, Jamie Jackson <jamieinnh at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have to agree with Josh,
>
> I like the second one better.   Tabs can be a good thing, or if over used,
> can be a bad thing.    The second one is a cleaner, better flow look.
>
> Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it
> don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it.
>
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
> On 4/6/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> > I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
> > wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
> > for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > Need your quick help.
> > >
> > > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into
> > > one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
> > > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> > > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> > > called "Qualified CRM emails".
> > >
> > > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab
> > > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> > > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the
> > > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable
> > > UI based on your views.
> > >
> > > - Saint
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>


From larenas at internext.com.mx  Thu Apr  6 01:39:48 2006
From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:39:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I suggest a change on SaveSalesorder.php
In-Reply-To: <49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
	<44352162.6040504@zertis.net>	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4434D3D4.9050804@internext.com.mx>

foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val)
{
       
        if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname]))
   {
       $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname];
       $match = stristr($fieldname,'id');
     ***** NEW LINEs*****
       if($match != '0' && empty($value))$value = '0';
      elseif($match == '0' && empty($value)) $value = 'null';
          
        
         
        //echo '<BR>';
       //echo $fieldname."         ".$value;
       //echo '<BR>';
       $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value;
   }
       
}



From developer at infointegrated.com  Thu Apr  6 11:44:35 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:44:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>



I also agree about the second one defintely being the preferred layout. I
would still use webmail with POP, though I would also prefer IMAP
support.

Brian


 I
have to agree with Josh,

I like the second one better.   Tabs
can be a good thing, or if over used, can be a bad thing.    The second
one is a cleaner, better flow look.

Also, with the question of
IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it don't or won't use IMAP,
then I wouldn't use it.    


Jamie



On 4/6/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net>
wrote: I like
the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
wouldn't
use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
for
it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
Saint wrote: 

> Guys,
>
> Need your quick
help.
>
> We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and
Email accessibility into
> one UI.
>From a single UI, you can
receive all your POP mails and send
 > mails using SMTP. And if
there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> list, pertaining
to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> called
"Qualified CRM emails".
>
> I have attached two
images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
> version: "All
Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into
the
> Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the
best usable 
> UI based on your views.
>
> -
Saint
>
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------

>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored
by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper &
palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
Planner for FREE instead!  http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>


--
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net 



_______________________________________________
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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Thu Apr  6 12:51:00 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:51:00 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
Message-ID: <1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>

It supports every protocol that's handled by the PHP IMAP functions
which includes POP and IMAP (i havent tested POP yet).

Matt

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:44 -0500, Brian Devendorf wrote:
> I also agree about the second one defintely being the preferred
> layout. I would still use webmail with POP, though I would also prefer
> IMAP support.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> I have to agree with Josh,
> 
> I like the second one better. Tabs can be a good thing, or if over
> used, can be a bad thing. The second one is a cleaner, better flow
> look.
> 
> Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one. if
> it don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it. 
> 
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> On 4/6/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>         I like the second one more, however if it does not support
>         IMAP, I
>         wouldn't use it. I was under the impression that vtiger used
>         squirlmail
>         for it's email backed. If that is true, then it should support
>         IMAP.
>         Saint wrote: 
>         
>         > Guys,
>         >
>         > Need your quick help.
>         >
>         > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email
>         accessibility into
>         > one UI.
>         From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
>         > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in
>         that incoming
>         > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a
>         category
>         > called "Qualified CRM emails".
>         >
>         > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin
>         tab 
>         > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another
>         is a
>         > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed
>         into the
>         > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the
>         best usable 
>         > UI based on your views.
>         >
>         > - Saint
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>         >
>         >------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         >
>         >_______________________________________________
>         >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
>         scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your
>         hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
>         Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>         >
>         
>         
>         --
>         Josh Lee
>         Software Engineer
>         Zertis Technologies, LLC
>         205.422.5279
>         jlee at zertis.net 
>         
>         
>         
>         _______________________________________________
>         This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
>         scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your
>         hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
>         Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>         
>         
> 
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 


From larenas at internext.com.mx  Thu Apr  6 08:03:50 2006
From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:03:50 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Some body can send me a how-to integrate
	webmail on vtiger
Message-ID: <44352DD6.5080207@internext.com.mx>

Please, l'd like know how i can integrate webmail on crm.

From libregeek at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 23:24:48 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:54:48 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
	<1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <2315046d0604062324j7407b608m5068d79c3b6840b4@mail.gmail.com>

Saint,
  I do agree with Sergio's suggestion. I would like to use IMAP and
use the same folder structure in the server. In the case of UI, I
would like to use the second one, because it's less cluttered.

regards
Manilal


From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr  6 23:59:35 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie@vtiger.com)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:59:35 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Security Document
Message-ID: <10a7326101c.3472802742984349963.194233641965351292@@vtiger.com>

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From pigeonflight at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 06:38:54 2006
From: pigeonflight at gmail.com (david bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:38:54 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
Message-ID: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>

I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan to
dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2 years. I
would like to accomplish the following:


   - be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
   based on type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
   use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig
   to be able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to
   authorize this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send
   message to hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since
   a normal customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
    - master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and
   required completion time
   use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
   them outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
   overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
   - ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
   use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
   how many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
   resolved based on predetermined completion times
   - call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
   number of calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
   - talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
   additional customer data stored on a different server and then store that
   data locally in the vTiger database.
   use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
   an external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
   with the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased
   and the time of purchase and failed purchases)

I'm especially interested in how much of this can already be accomplished in
vTiger and whether the balance can realistically be accomplished in 5
dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer hours and lots of posts to the mailing
list/discussion boards etc..)
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From david.bain at alteroo.com  Fri Apr  7 08:49:43 2006
From: david.bain at alteroo.com (David Bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:49:43 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha
Message-ID: <f433ff170604070849y59485a1fw1457fb72ab8c576d@mail.gmail.com>

for a new role out of vtiger (translation) in the next 2 weeks, should we be
considering 4.x or 5 alpha release.
What are the pros and cons?
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 11:32:02 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:32:02 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)

just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
can...

/sak

On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan to
> dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2 years. I
> would like to accomplish the following:
>
>
>
> be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager based on
> type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
>  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to be
> able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message to
> hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a normal
> customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
>
> master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> completion time
>  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows them
> outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
>
> ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
>  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see how
> many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> resolved based on predetermined completion times
>
> call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the number of
> calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> additional customer data stored on a different server and then store that
> data locally in the vTiger database.
>  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on an
> external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself with
> the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the time
> of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much of
> this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer hours
> and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>


From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 11:34:27 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:34:27 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] mike ?
Message-ID: <49216030604071134l4cc50173ja086c0cba39d0281@mail.gmail.com>

what happened to mike fedyk ?
it seems like he dissapeared...

/sak


From david.bain at alteroo.com  Fri Apr  7 11:52:42 2006
From: david.bain at alteroo.com (David Bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:52:42 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>

Is that a general comment about SOAP or is it related to php and SOAP? Bear
in mind that it would be vtiger acting as a SOAP client. The provider of the
webservice is running a .net platform, I'm not well informed about how
easily they could roll out a REST based solution.

How much of the stuff is already there in vtiger?
If 5 days (40 hours) is too little.
What is a more realistic estimate?

On 4/7/06, Sergio A. Kessler <sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)
>
> just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
> will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
> can...
>
> /sak
>
> On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan
> to
> > dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> > experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2
> years. I
> > would like to accomplish the following:
> >
> >
> >
> > be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
> based on
> > type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
> >  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to
> be
> > able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> > this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message
> to
> > hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a
> normal
> > customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
> >
> > master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> > completion time
> >  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
> them
> > outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> > overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
> >
> > ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
> >  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
> how
> > many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> > resolved based on predetermined completion times
> >
> > call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
> number of
> > calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> > talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> > additional customer data stored on a different server and then store
> that
> > data locally in the vTiger database.
> >  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
> an
> > external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
> with
> > the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the
> time
> > of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much
> of
> > this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> > realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer
> hours
> > and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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From werk at r2g.nl  Fri Apr  7 12:21:43 2006
From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 21:21:43 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604070849y59485a1fw1457fb72ab8c576d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEFLCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>

David,

Why are you asking this? As programmer you should also know de answer as I'm
only a heavy user: the choice between an alpha and stable version for
translation?
Or are you considering the change of hard coded items to strings used for
multiple languages?

Regards, Remco


  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens David Bain
  Verzonden: vrijdag 7 april 2006 17:50
  Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
  Onderwerp: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha


  for a new role out of vtiger (translation) in the next 2 weeks, should we
be considering 4.x or 5 alpha release.
  What are the pros and cons?

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 13:26:54 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:26:54 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
	<f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604071326l6c0f4a49q4d1705c9232ef85e@mail.gmail.com>

a general comment about SOAP (I couldn't resist).

REST is orders of magnitude more simple (debugging is trivial), and
you only need a xml parser and support for http calls, and I bet that
.net has that.

/sak

On 4/7/06, David Bain <david.bain at alteroo.com> wrote:
> Is that a general comment about SOAP or is it related to php and SOAP? Bear
> in mind that it would be vtiger acting as a SOAP client. The provider of the
> webservice is running a .net platform, I'm not well informed about how
> easily they could roll out a REST based solution.
>
>  How much of the stuff is already there in vtiger?
>  If 5 days (40 hours) is too little.
>  What is a more realistic estimate?
>
>
> On 4/7/06, Sergio A. Kessler <sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)
> >
> > just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
> > will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
> > can...
> >
> > /sak
> >
> > On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan
> to
> > > dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> > > experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2
> years. I
> > > would like to accomplish the following:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
> based on
> > > type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
> > >  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to
> be
> > > able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> > > this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message
> to
> > > hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a
> normal
> > > customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
> > >
> > > master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> > > completion time
> > >  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
> them
> > > outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> > > overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
> > >
> > > ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
> > >  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
> how
> > > many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> > > resolved based on predetermined completion times
> > >
> > > call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
> number of
> > > calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> > > talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> > > additional customer data stored on a different server and then store
> that
> > > data locally in the vTiger database.
> > >  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
> an
> > > external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
> with
> > > the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the
> time
> > > of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much
> of
> > > this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> > > realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer
> hours
> > > and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> > > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> > > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
>


From brian at pr2k.com  Fri Apr  7 13:22:19 2006
From: brian at pr2k.com (Brian Laughlin)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:22:19 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers]  mike ?
Message-ID: <27CABE0A5EFD714EA5B2F9B47EE5CB855BC4F9@svawmc1.awnow.local>

 

what happened to mike fedyk ?
it seems like he dissapeared...

/sak

I IM him not too long ago.  He's dealing with a few things and said that
he should be in the swing of things shortly.

/BrianLaughlin


From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Sun Apr  9 20:31:38 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 23:31:38 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration Tools
Message-ID: <994473020604092031x3f94f99ev2b40de2ce24d4721@mail.gmail.com>

I know this was discussed before, but is anyone seeing all the requests to
migrate from Sugar to vTiger?   Is there a tool that works with their latest
version?

Jamie
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From richie at vtiger.com  Sun Apr  9 21:17:29 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie@vtiger.com)
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:17:29 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
Message-ID: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>

Hi!

Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been included.
The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.

Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it admirably.
I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we had earlier.
Bravo Michel!

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Mon Apr 10 00:24:53 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:24:53 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Font support in Image Graph
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi all,

 

We are able to supply true type fonts thru Image Graph bundle.

Does anybody have some knowledge on font copyrights?

Is there a site where to find this kind of info?

Are Linux ttf files the same than windows?

 

Michel

 

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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr 10 02:54:50 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:54:50 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Font support in Image Graph
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <443A2B6A.9000409@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Michel,
i think you can use bitstream vera fonts, the ttf files are the same for 
linux & windows.
The copyright allow to modify and redistribute.
You can find the copyright here : http://www.gnome.org/fonts/
Bitstream vera fonts are bundled with gnome, kde, openoffice... and lot 
of others freesoftware.
Thanks for your work on graph.
A?ssa.

Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit :

> Hi all,
>
>  
>
> We are able to supply true type fonts thru Image Graph bundle.
>
> Does anybody have some knowledge on font copyrights?
>
> Is there a site where to find this kind of info?
>
> Are Linux ttf files the same than windows?
>
>  
>
> Michel
>
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


From libregeek at gmail.com  Mon Apr 10 03:53:54 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:23:54 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for vtiger-5
Message-ID: <2315046d0604100353h6a0b7a4by98866e36cf944af5@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,
   I'm not sure where to post the patches for vtiger5. Should I use
the Code Contributions to vtiger-5?
However I have submitted some simple patches to the Announcement
forum. The link to the forum is
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23176#23176

I have only very little experience in hacking vtiger. I think these
patches will be useful for the community.

regards
Manilal


From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr 11 14:26:10 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:26:10 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>

I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation 
with all of you.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr 11 14:32:55 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:32:55 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Develpler guide.
In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <443C2087.60007@zertis.net>

Ah, I forgot to give Mike Crrowe credit on part of that Developer guide.
Some of that was a copy paste off of his blog, sorry Mike.  Your name 
will be in the next version.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 11 20:40:25 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:40:25 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAApvPJDzh/BUutqtxOWCvg8QEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Josh, congratulations! You started a great job.
I will do my part on dashboard guide.

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Josh Lee
> Envoy??: mardi 11 avril 2006 23:26
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
> 
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation
> with all of you.
> 
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net




From dan.means at teamsrs.com  Tue Apr 11 22:08:02 2006
From: dan.means at teamsrs.com (Dan Means)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:08:02 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <443C8B32.3010600@teamsrs.com>

Great job Josh -- I've been scribbling lots of this stuff down moding up 
the sales order modules -- if I can contribute let me know.

I've managed to get a lot of extra fields into the various blocks, 
mostly in the products section (my client has lots of warehouses / 
locations)....

Josh Lee wrote:
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this 
> documentation with all of you.
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 

-- 
Dan Means
Mission Viejo, CA
www.dkmeansonline.com
www.teamsrs.com


From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 11 16:27:13 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:27:13 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>

What application can I use to open the *vTigerCRM Notes.odt*
 file?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/11/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation
> with all of you.
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Tue Apr 11 22:51:16 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:51:16 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
	<677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443C9554.2080303@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Jorge,
use openoffice 2

Jorge Garifuna a ?crit :

> What application can I use to open the *vTigerCRM Notes.odt*
>  file?
>  
> -- 
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com
>
>  
> On 4/11/06, *Josh Lee* <jlee at zertis.net <mailto:jlee at zertis.net>> wrote:
>
>     I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
>     Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this
>     documentation
>     with all of you.
>
>     --
>     Josh Lee
>     Software Engineer
>     Zertis Technologies, LLC
>     205.422.5279
>     jlee at zertis.net <mailto:jlee at zertis.net>
>
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com> email is sponsored by Zoho
>     Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper &
>     palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer
>     online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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From richie at vtiger.com  Wed Apr 12 03:18:59 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie@vtiger.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:18:59 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP Optimizer to use?
Message-ID: <10a8d9c6b1c.-5546871847639394966.-7110740342565802342@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

I plan to use a php optimizer along with the product.
Which optimizer do you suggest that we use please?

APC
e-Accelerator
Zend
etc

Please note, it needs to be open source or something that permits us to bundle 
the same.

Richie
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From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Apr 12 04:12:25 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:12:25 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>

nice work josh.

i started similar project on http://vtiger.fosslabs.com wiki.
please add your document on the wiki, that help to do collaborative work to 
achieve developer guide goal.

side notes :
keep in mind that vtiger provide an API documentation using phpDocumentor and 
that our documents could fit nicely beside this documentation.
> As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a
> rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is
> doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form
> similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on
> accomplishing this task.

cheers,

Fathi

From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Apr 12 04:13:51 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:13:51 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>
References: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <200604121313.51946.fboudra@free.fr>

> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been included.
> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>
> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> had earlier. Bravo Michel!

congratulations !!!
thanks michel.

From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Wed Apr 12 05:45:58 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:45:58 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <200604121313.51946.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA37V09tggw02w/ZNLgnIk1wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

You're welcome Fathi

Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
Hi Mike, what do we do?

Michel
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> Envoy??: mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> 
> > Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> included.
> > The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >
> > Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> > admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> > had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> 
> congratulations !!!
> thanks michel.
> _______________________________________________
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From werk at r2g.nl  Wed Apr 12 06:06:16 2006
From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:06:16 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA37V09tggw02w/ZNLgnIk1wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>

Hi Mike,

I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new in
vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.

Regrads,

Remco


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
JACQUEMES
Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced


You're welcome Fathi

Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
Hi Mike, what do we do?

Michel
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> Envoy??: mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
> > Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> included.
> > The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >
> > Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> > admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> > had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>
> congratulations !!!
> thanks michel.
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 06:35:08 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:35:08 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP Optimizer to use?
In-Reply-To: <-293363331911076467@unknownmsgid>
References: <-293363331911076467@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030604120635p53b44badi7df5dd0ee2514c8a@mail.gmail.com>

AFAIK, APC is the only open source one, that is mantained...
(and the APC mantainer is rasmus, the same guy that created php)

/sak

On 4/12/06, richie at vtiger.com <richie at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I plan to use a php optimizer along with the product.
> Which optimizer do you suggest that we use please?
>
> APC
> e-Accelerator
> Zend
> etc
>
> Please note, it needs to be open source or something
> that permits us to bundle
> the same.
>
> Richie
> _______________________________________________
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From don at vtiger.com  Wed Apr 12 07:58:08 2006
From: don at vtiger.com (don@vtiger.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:58:08 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
Message-ID: <10a8e9bfc4f.907995375215913911.-4148391941192291052@@vtiger.com>

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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 08:40:09 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>

Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 08:40:09 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>

Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
>
>


From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 09:17:14 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:17:14 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net> <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <443D280A.40700@zertis.net>

Here is an updated version.

Fathi, I understand how a wiki works, however I don't see an edit link.  
Do I have to be logged in?  If so where do I sign up? 

Side note, if you guys send me whatever notes you have in MSWord, 
OpenOffice or even txt I will do my best to add them into this.

Fathi Boudra wrote:

>nice work josh.
>
>i started similar project on http://vtiger.fosslabs.com wiki.
>please add your document on the wiki, that help to do collaborative work to 
>achieve developer guide goal.
>
>side notes :
>keep in mind that vtiger provide an API documentation using phpDocumentor and 
>that our documents could fit nicely beside this documentation.
>  
>
>>As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a
>>rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is
>>doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form
>>similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on
>>accomplishing this task.
>>    
>>
>
>cheers,
>
>Fathi
>_______________________________________________
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>  
>


-- 
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From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 12:19:14 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:19:14 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger CRM Develper Guide.
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>
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	<3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443D52B2.7010505@zertis.net>

Ok, this is getting silly, I am updating this thing way to often, I need 
to put it in svn somewhere.
Fathi could you set this up for me?  Could you create a usename jlee and 
email me a password using your svn repository for this thing?

Here is another updated version.


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Wed Apr 12 12:55:09 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:55:09 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>

Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):

*	
	PHP 5+
*	
	MySQL 5.1+
*	
	Apache 2+ (??)

...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
 
On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
 
Regards,
 
- Joel

________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status



Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>

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From jtk at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 12 13:47:37 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:47:37 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.12.20.47.34.148836@yahoo.com>

Joel Rydbeck wrote:
> Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand
> vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I
> realize right now these are requirements):
(...)
> I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been
> some commitment to supporting that down the road.

I think it would be a huge mistake to promote vtigercrm-5.0.0 from alpha
beta status without merging postgresql support similar to that found in
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration.

Postgresql support from the start is a serious requirement. AFAICT, the
decision for a user to deploy vtigercrm on either mysql or postgresql is
one-way and permanent, I don't think there are any migration tools being
offered here to reliably handle a conversion as complex as a fully
populated vtigercrm dataset.

We are keeping the diff on that branch to the minimum required changes for
postgresql support a) to ease merging back to vtigercrm/branches/4.2
immediately after vtigercrm/branches/vtigercrm-4.2.4, and b) to make it
easier for the vtiger dev team to merge the same changes into the trunk
ASAP.

svn diff
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 (it's a long
diff, but consistent in its changes)


From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 13:52:04 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:52:04 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <443D6874.2020402@zertis.net>

I was unaware of PHP 5 requirements, as I am running vtiger5 on php4.

Joel Rydbeck wrote:

>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>
>*	
>	PHP 5+
>*	
>	MySQL 5.1+
>*	
>	Apache 2+ (??)
>
>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
> 
>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
> 
>Regards,
> 
>- Joel
>
>________________________________
>
>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>
>
>
>Don,
>
>That's very informative, thank you.
>
>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
>20-25 working days?
>
>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>
>Thanks
>
>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
>>This document will give an insight on the
>>features/fixes that we are currently
>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
>>is completed, we will be doing a full
>>scale validation and all
>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
>>of these issues based on severity and
>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>>
>>Thanks & Regards,
>>Don
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 14:36:14 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:36:14 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>

I think postgresql is a must,
I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...

and I'm not talking about features,
I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
from mysql, that's it)...

/sak

On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
> Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>
> *
>         PHP 5+
> *
>         MySQL 5.1+
> *
>         Apache 2+ (??)
>
> ...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
>
> On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
>
> Regards,
>
> - Joel
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
> Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>
>
>
> Don,
>
> That's very informative, thank you.
>
> Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
> understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
> full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
> 20-25 working days?
>
> I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
> would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>
> Thanks
>
> On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> > available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> > This document will give an insight on the
> > features/fixes that we are currently
> > working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> > Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> > is completed, we will be doing a full
> > scale validation and all
> > the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> > of these issues based on severity and
> > then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> > Don
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>


From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 14:50:12 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:50:12 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
	<49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>

:-/ Mysql "classic" is the version you get as a developer without paying 
a license.  If you want a license you can get mysql pro. 
http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/

Since vTigerCRM is open source, I believe vtiger falls into the GPL 
License for mysql.   Either way, it is completely free and from my 
understanding we don't need a license.

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>I think postgresql is a must,
>I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...
>
>and I'm not talking about features,
>I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
>from mysql, that's it)...
>
>/sak
>
>On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>>
>>*
>>        PHP 5+
>>*
>>        MySQL 5.1+
>>*
>>        Apache 2+ (??)
>>
>>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
>>
>>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>- Joel
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
>>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
>>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>>
>>
>>
>>Don,
>>
>>That's very informative, thank you.
>>
>>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
>>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
>>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
>>20-25 working days?
>>
>>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
>>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
>>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
>>>This document will give an insight on the
>>>features/fixes that we are currently
>>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
>>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
>>>is completed, we will be doing a full
>>>scale validation and all
>>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
>>>of these issues based on severity and
>>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>>>
>>>Thanks & Regards,
>>>Don
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
>>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>  
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 16:09:07 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:09:07 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
	<49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
	<443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <49216030604121609t28f484edl93bc9f0b5ddb2d61@mail.gmail.com>

yes, vtigerCrm is open source and the team or company behind it does
not need a mysql licence, that is clear.

but what happens when YOU start customizing it and deploy it to customers ?

"MySQL AB always recommends that proprietary (non-Free
Software/non-Open Source) use of MySQL be done with the commercial
non-GPL version of MySQL."

note the word "use"

/sak

On 4/12/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> :-/ Mysql "classic" is the version you get as a developer without paying
> a license.  If you want a license you can get mysql pro.
> http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/
>
> Since vTigerCRM is open source, I believe vtiger falls into the GPL
> License for mysql.   Either way, it is completely free and from my
> understanding we don't need a license.
>
> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
> >I think postgresql is a must,
> >I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...
> >
> >and I'm not talking about features,
> >I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
> >from mysql, that's it)...
> >
> >/sak
> >
> >On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
> >>
> >>*
> >>        PHP 5+
> >>*
> >>        MySQL 5.1+
> >>*
> >>        Apache 2+ (??)
> >>
> >>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
> >>
> >>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>- Joel
> >>
> >>________________________________
> >>
> >>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
> >>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
> >>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Don,
> >>
> >>That's very informative, thank you.
> >>
> >>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
> >>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
> >>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
> >>20-25 working days?
> >>
> >>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
> >>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> >>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> >>>This document will give an insight on the
> >>>features/fixes that we are currently
> >>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> >>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> >>>is completed, we will be doing a full
> >>>scale validation and all
> >>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> >>>of these issues based on severity and
> >>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks & Regards,
> >>>Don
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> >>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> >>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>


From saint at vtiger.com  Fri Apr 14 11:57:04 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:27:04 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
Message-ID: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>

Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and find 
your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.

The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.

The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in colored 
paper visuals.

I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most of 
the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.

Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)

Saint


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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Apr 14 12:25:07 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:25:07 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443FF713.1070902@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi saint,
nice work i like it.
Cool, professionnal, informative.
If you can, use it on 5.0.

A?ssa

Saint a ?crit :

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
>
> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
>
> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
> colored paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most 
> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
>
> Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 12:41:57 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:41:57 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>

I like it.
Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be 
interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.  
He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put 
in the home page from 4.2.3

Saint wrote:

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
>
> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
>
> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
> colored paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most 
> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
>
> Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 14:21:20 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:21:20 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 5 Alpha.
In-Reply-To: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44401250.6030900@zertis.net>

Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail view.
Simple probelm simple fix.

includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
At the bottom of the file change this:

    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
    {
        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
                $key1=$keys[0];
        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
        {
                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
                    $key2=$keys[0];
        }
        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
$label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
    }
    return $return_data;


To this:

    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
    {
       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
        $key1 = null;
        $key2 = null;
       // Done adding
        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
                $key1=$keys[0];
        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
        {
                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
                    $key2=$keys[0];
        }
        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
$label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
    }
    return $return_data;


Hope this helps!

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 19:36:24 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:36:24 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 4.2.3 Calendar bugfix.
In-Reply-To: <44401250.6030900@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<44401250.6030900@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44405C28.5090009@zertis.net>

4.2.3 Bugfix for calendar

calendar month around line 236

        else
        { // day overlaps by Fredy
            if ( $today == Date("Ymd",$ts)){
                $col = "ol-today";
            }
            else if ($wd == 6) {
                $col = "ol-holiday";
            }
          else if ($wd == 5) {
             $col = "ol-freeday";
                }
            else if ($xm != $m ) {
                $col = "ol-otherday";
            }
            else  {
                $col = "ol-appday";
            }
        }


Josh Lee wrote:

> Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail view.
> Simple probelm simple fix.
>
> includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
> At the bottom of the file change this:
>
>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>    {
>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>                $key1=$keys[0];
>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>        {
>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>        }
>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
> $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>    }
>    return $return_data;
>
>
> To this:
>
>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>    {
>       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
>        $key1 = null;
>        $key2 = null;
>       // Done adding
>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>                $key1=$keys[0];
>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>        {
>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>        }
>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
> $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>    }
>    return $return_data;
>
>
> Hope this helps!
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Fri Apr 14 20:34:13 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 05:34:13 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAqlIhhtjpX0yY09ug5zRMRQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Saint,

 

A good idea, I think, to have a layout disposal made of blocks.

Do you think it will be a heavy work to let the user choose in preferences
what information he wants to see in each block.

We have to have in mind that in some large companies people have different
functions. Sales manager won?t be interested in same information than store
manager, and so on.

 

About graphs, something I am beginning to know well :-), have in mind that
we can imagine something more sophisticated than what we have done till now.
Have a look at this page:

 

http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/

 

Michel

 

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De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Saint
Envoy? : vendredi 14 avril 2006 20:57
? : LANCER : Developers List
Objet : [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

 

Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and find your
opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.

The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that weeks
historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.

The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in colored
paper visuals.

I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most of the
CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, modifications
etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement for what we have
currently - the spiral book type UI.

Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)

Saint



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From jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com  Fri Apr 14 13:39:45 2006
From: jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:39:45 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>

I think the interface looks nice.

I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing  link:

http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html

- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as
well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily
change the settings.

- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if
the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she
can easily have that option.


--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com

On 4/14/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I like it.
> Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
> interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.
> He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
> in the home page from 4.2.3
>
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and
> > find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
> >
> > The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> > The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> > The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
> > weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
> >
> > The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> > colored paper visuals.
> >
> > I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
> > of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts,
> > modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> > for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
> >
> > Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
> >
> > Saint
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
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From developer at infointegrated.com  Sat Apr 15 07:20:30 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:20:30 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>



I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to
select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic.
Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double
width, double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger
size. Also, the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or
have it based on screen size), 

I must say this is the best
home page implementation I have seen yet. Great work, Saint!

Brian



I think the interface looks nice.
 
I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if
it could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
wants.
 
- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing 
link:
 
http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html
 
- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable
as well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can
easily change the settings.
 
- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range
so if the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range)
he/she can easily have that option.
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 
 
On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net>
wrote: I
like it.
Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that
you all might be
interested to know that I have a client whom I
installed vtiger5 for. 
He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that
he is paying to have me put
in the home page from 4.2.3

Saint wrote:

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought
better, to give a shot and
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3
matrix idea for home page of vtiger. 
>
> The first row
shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows
Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but
a small graphical representation of that
> weeks historical data
about Leads, Potentials and Contacts. 
>
> The Upcoming
Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> colored
paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned
towards sales. But I believe most
> of the CRM installations
revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc.
Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> for what we
have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know,
even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
 >
>
Saint
>
>
>
>
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>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper &
palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
Planner for FREE instead!  http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>


--
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Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net 



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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sun Apr 16 14:53:36 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:53:36 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

== BLOAT

/sak


From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Sun Apr 16 21:13:55 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:13:55 +0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>

I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE. This
could have the following scenario:

- Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance (potentials,
closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.

- Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next to
each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.

Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
system a true CRM and MIS.

-----Original Message-----
From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of
Sergio A. Kessler
Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

== BLOAT

/sak

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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Mon Apr 17 01:00:50 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:00:50 +0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604170047s7935bca7ja151290634541449@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c661f5$0bd4e020$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hi Jorge,

 

The first attachment you put was more of a graphical workflow, certainly
something that should be attempted to be achieved with the bounty. However,
what I am referring to on the user customizable dashboard should have the
clear objective of "drag and drop" of whatever functions or information that
is needed AND that is accessible at the current user access level. It will
become something like a personal Content Management System where you can
self-determine the layout of whatever module and component output you need
for your individual needs.

 

  _____  

From: garifuna at gmail.com [mailto:garifuna at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jorge
Garifuna
Sent: 17 April 2006 15:48
To: ncknight at pacific.net.sg; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

 

Sorry, I forgot the attach the visual files for Quick Books Pro 2006 payment
interface.
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 


 

On 4/17/06, Jorge Garifuna <garifuna at gmail.com> wrote: 

I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
across many departments of a company. 

 

I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
"receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
particular invoice.  

 

For example a typical job contract may look like this:

10% due at job start

50% due within 3 days of starting point

40% due at job completion

 

If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
against the invoice:

 

1) $100

2) $500

3) $400

 

After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.


Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM 4.2
for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario explained
above is closely related to the real world.

 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  


 

On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg > wrote: 

I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE. This

could have the following scenario:

- Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance (potentials,
closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day. 

- Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next to
each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.

Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access 
Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
system a true CRM and MIS.

-----Original Message-----
From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com> ] On Behalf Of
Sergio A. Kessler
Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix .. 

On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna < jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com
<mailto:jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> > wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it 
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants. 

== BLOAT

/sak

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From garifuna at gmail.com  Mon Apr 17 00:46:06 2006
From: garifuna at gmail.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:46:06 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
References: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
	<000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
Message-ID: <677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
across many departments of a company.

I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
"receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
particular invoice.

For example a typical job contract may look like this:
10% due at job start
50% due within 3 days of starting point
40% due at job completion

If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
against the invoice:

1) $100
2) $500
3) $400

After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.

Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM
4.2for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario
explained
above is closely related to the real world.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>


On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg> wrote:
>
> I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
> users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE.
> This
> could have the following scenario:
>
> - Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
> leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance
> (potentials,
> closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.
>
> - Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next
> to
> each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
> potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.
>
> Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
> Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
> Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
> system a true CRM and MIS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com ] On Behalf Of
> Sergio A. Kessler
> Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
>
> On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think the interface looks nice.
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
>
> > could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
> wants.
>
> == BLOAT
>
> /sak
>
> _______________________________________________
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> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From info at GariDigital.com  Mon Apr 17 00:47:37 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:47:37 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
	<000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
	<677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604170047s7935bca7ja151290634541449@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I forgot the attach the visual files for Quick Books Pro 2006 payment
interface.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/17/06, Jorge Garifuna <garifuna at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
> challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
> users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
> to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
> across many departments of a company.
>
> I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
> interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
> "receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
> the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
> is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
> this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
> particular invoice.
>
> For example a typical job contract may look like this:
> 10% due at job start
> 50% due within 3 days of starting point
> 40% due at job completion
>
> If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
> against the invoice:
>
> 1) $100
> 2) $500
> 3) $400
>
> After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.
>
> Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM 4.2for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario explained
> above is closely related to the real world.
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>  On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg > wrote:
> >
> > I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what
> > end
> > users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE.
> > This
> > could have the following scenario:
> >
> > - Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
> > leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance
> > (potentials,
> > closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.
> >
> > - Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments
> > next to
> > each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
> > potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.
> >
> > Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
> > Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
> > Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes
> > the
> > system a true CRM and MIS.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com ] On Behalf Of
> > Sergio A. Kessler
> > Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
> > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
> >
> > On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna < jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the interface looks nice.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if
> > it
> > > could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
> > wants.
> >
> > == BLOAT
> >
> > /sak
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
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> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From jg at garinet.com  Sat Apr 15 12:54:12 2006
From: jg at garinet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:54:12 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
	<53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604151254pfc7086gddb0a6f2b9843307@mail.gmail.com>

vTiger CRM is obviously one of the best solutions I've seen out there in its
class. I always recommended as one of my favorite solutions.

I have mentioned it on certain business forums and because people are always
asking for CRM solutions, I wrote a little article about my experience with
the different CRM applications that I've played around with:

http://theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5

For the rest of you guys, feel free to post your replies to that article
showing your support for vTiger CRM, bacause I'm always referring people to
that link and the more support they see about vTiger, the more that will
decide on it.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/15/06, Brian Devendorf <developer at infointegrated.com> wrote:
>
> I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to
> select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic.
> Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double width,
> double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger size. Also,
> the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or have it based on
> screen size),
>
> I must say this is the best home page implementation I have seen yet.
> Great work, Saint!
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>  I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.
>  - An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing link:
>  http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html
>
> - I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as
> well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily
> change the settings.
>  - the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if
> the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she
> can easily have that option.
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>  On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> >
> > I like it.
> > Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
> > interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.
> > He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
> > in the home page from 4.2.3
> >
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and
> > > find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of
> > vtiger.
> > >
> > > The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> > > The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> > > The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
> > > weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
> > >
> > > The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> > > colored paper visuals.
> > >
> > > I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
> > > of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts,
> > > modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> > > for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
> > >
> > > Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
> > >
> > > Saint
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Mon Apr 17 08:03:59 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:03:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
	<443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net><677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com><53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
	<000001c661fb$58d29880$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B73A8@office.nubrek.local>

Folks,
 
I'm on board with Josh's feedback here.  My users just made the transition into 4.2 and while 5.0 offers a lot of great features, I'd like to be able to keep UI differences to a minimum. As great as everyone thinks 5.0 looks, it is complex and intimidating to a newcomer.  I think its great to have this as an option, but I think we also need to hang on to a simple theme/interface that looks more like the Sugar's and Salesforce.com's of the world.
 
The fact that so many people are so tied to the 5.0 look is only a signal that themes really do mean a lot to the end user.  We should make certain that 4.2 users who really liked the theme, can continue to use what they prefer just like so many prefer the 5.0 look.  Personally, I would like a theme that looks a lot closer to Salesforce so that I could compete with them better --keep it more of an apples to apples.
 
Seriously, let's not become the open source project that has an over-bearing, overly complex, overly functional UI.  Let's keep it easy for the end-user who will only touch this for 5 minutes each day --in the end, they're the ones who need CRM the most.
 
- Joel

________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Jorge Garifuna
Sent: Mon 4/17/2006 3:45 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..


vTiger CRM is obviously one of the best solutions I've seen out there in its class. I always recommended as one of my favorite solutions.
 
I have mentioned it on certain business forums and because people are always asking for CRM solutions, I wrote a little article about my experience with the different CRM applications that I've played around with:
 
http://theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5
 
For the rest of you guys, feel free to post your replies to that article showing your support for vTiger CRM, bacause I'm always referring people to that link and the more support they see about vTiger, the more that will decide on it. 
 
-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 

 
On 4/15/06, Brian Devendorf <developer at infointegrated.com> wrote: 

	I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic. Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double width, double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger size. Also, the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or have it based on screen size), 
	
	I must say this is the best home page implementation I have seen yet. Great work, Saint!
	 
	
	Brian
	
	
	
	
	I think the interface looks nice.
	I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.
	- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing link:
	http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html 
	 
	- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily change the settings.
	- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she can easily have that option.

	-- 
	Jorge Garifuna
	Professional Web Developer
	"Your Web Solution Partner"
	Garinet Global Inc.
	http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  
	On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote: 

		I like it.
		Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
		interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for. 
		He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
		in the home page from 4.2.3
		
		Saint wrote:
		
		> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
		> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger. 
		>
		> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
		> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
		> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
		> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts. 
		>
		> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
		> colored paper visuals.
		>
		> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
		> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
		> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
		> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
		>
		> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
		>
		> Saint
		>
		>
		>
		> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
		>
		>------------------------------------------------------------------------
		>
		>_______________________________________________
		>This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
		>
		
		
		--
		Josh Lee
		Software Engineer
		Zertis Technologies, LLC 
		205.422.5279
		jlee at zertis.net 
		
		
		
		_______________________________________________
		This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
		
		
		





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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 17 13:48:54 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:48:54 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
Message-ID: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>

On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.

Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
start working on stuff for the next release.

Allan


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 02:08:39 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:08:39 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>
References: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>
Message-ID: <4444AC97.3010708@mikefedyk.com>

No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.

Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.

Mike

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new in
> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>
> Regrads,
>
> Remco
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> JACQUEMES
> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
>
> You're welcome Fathi
>
> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>
> Michel
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>>     
>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>       
>> included.
>>     
>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>
>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>       
>> congratulations !!!
>> thanks michel.
>> _______________________________________________
>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>     
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>   

From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 02:24:30 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:24:30 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <4444AC97.3010708@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Mike,

That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
files?

There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> Envoy??: mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> 
> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> 
> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> in
> > vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >
> > Regrads,
> >
> > Remco
> >
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> > JACQUEMES
> > Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> > Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >
> >
> > You're welcome Fathi
> >
> > Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> > Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >>
> >>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>
> >> included.
> >>
> >>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> >>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
> we
> >>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>
> >> congratulations !!!
> >> thanks michel.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> > ----- Scanned for virus and spam
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt



From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 02:22:32 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:22:32 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4444AFD8.2050309@mikefedyk.com>

I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.

If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.

Mike

Allan Bush wrote:
> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
>
> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> start working on stuff for the next release.
>
> Allan
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>
>   

From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 02:35:15 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:35:15 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <4444B2D3.7040702@mikefedyk.com>

There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the 
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac 
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>       
>> in
>>     
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>       
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>         
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>     
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> included.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>>           
>> we
>>     
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 02:41:07 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:41:07 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <4444AFD8.2050309@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> Envoy??: mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
> 
> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
> 
> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Allan Bush wrote:
> > On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> > related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> > 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> > fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
> >
> > Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> > to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> > package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> > start working on stuff for the next release.
> >
> > Allan
> >
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 02:45:51 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:45:51 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
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Message-ID: <4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>

Yes, any time.

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
> few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
>
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
>>
>> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
>>
>> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Allan Bush wrote:
>>     
>>> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
>>> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
>>> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
>>> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
>>>
>>> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
>>> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
>>> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
>>> start working on stuff for the next release.
>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>       
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From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 18 09:12:25 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:12:25 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <4444B2D3.7040702@mikefedyk.com>
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	<4444B2D3.7040702@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604180912i7bc432acl71ff607a8945d8fd@mail.gmail.com>

nice move!

Where can I find the website for Image Graph?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
>
> There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
>
> Mike
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> > files?
> >
> > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> them,
> > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> >>
> >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> >>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >>>
> >>> Regrads,
> >>>
> >>> Remco
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> >>> JACQUEMES
> >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You're welcome Fathi
> >>>
> >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>>
> >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >>
> >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> included.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> what
> >>>>>
> >> we
> >>
> >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> congratulations !!!
> >>>> thanks michel.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >>>>
> >> enabled,
> >>
> >>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >>>
> >> enabled,
> >>
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> >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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> >>>
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> >>>
> >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
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> down
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> enabled,
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Apr 18 09:43:09 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:43:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
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Message-ID: <10aade24c9e.-1056776888213215312.-6439995842338982078@@vtiger.com>

Dear Jorge Garifuna,

Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437





----info at garidigital.com wrote ---- 

nice move! Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
 -- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 
 On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> included.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>>
>> we
>>
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>
>> down
>>
>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>>
>> enabled,
>>
>>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>> down
>>
>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>
>> enabled,
>>
>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>
>>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 18 10:15:25 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:15:25 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <-2576889677326043563@unknownmsgid>
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	<-2576889677326043563@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <677641040604181015q3e5e1955n338d14c20b114ddc@mail.gmail.com>

Gopal,

Thanks for the link.

I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state (
http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download).

- Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
piece of software for organizations?

- Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jorge Garifuna,
>
> Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:
>
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/
>
> Thanks,
> Gopal
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ----info at garidigital.com wrote ----
>
>  nice move!
>
> Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> > latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> >
> > with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be
> > done
> > > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you
> > patch
> > > files?
> > >
> > > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> > them,
> > > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> > >
> > > Michel
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> > vtigercrm-
> > >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> > >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> > >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>
> > >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> > >>
> > >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Mike,
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely
> > new
> > >>>
> > >> in
> > >>
> > >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regrads,
> > >>>
> > >>> Remco
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens
> > Michel
> > >>> JACQUEMES
> > >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> > >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> You're welcome Fathi
> > >>>
> > >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> > >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> > >>>
> > >>> Michel
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>>>
> > >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> > >>
> > >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> > >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> > >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> included.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing
> > it
> > >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> > what
> > >>>>>
> > >> we
> > >>
> > >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> congratulations !!!
> > >>>> thanks michel.
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
> > scribbling
> > >>>>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 15:34:42 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:34:42 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 4.2.3 Calendar bugfix.
In-Reply-To: <44405C28.5090009@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
	<443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>	<44401250.6030900@zertis.net>
	<44405C28.5090009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44456982.5070705@mikefedyk.com>

Can you make a unified diff with winmerge and attach it to a ticket with 
a milestone of 4.2.5?

Mike

Josh Lee wrote:
> 4.2.3 Bugfix for calendar
>
> calendar month around line 236
>
>        else
>        { // day overlaps by Fredy
>            if ( $today == Date("Ymd",$ts)){
>                $col = "ol-today";
>            }
>            else if ($wd == 6) {
>                $col = "ol-holiday";
>            }
>          else if ($wd == 5) {
>             $col = "ol-freeday";
>                }
>            else if ($xm != $m ) {
>                $col = "ol-otherday";
>            }
>            else  {
>                $col = "ol-appday";
>            }
>        }
>
>
> Josh Lee wrote:
>
>> Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail 
>> view.
>> Simple probelm simple fix.
>>
>> includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
>> At the bottom of the file change this:
>>
>>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>>    {
>>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>>                $key1=$keys[0];
>>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>>        {
>>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>>        }
>>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 
>> => $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>>    }
>>    return $return_data;
>>
>>
>> To this:
>>
>>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>>    {
>>       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
>>        $key1 = null;
>>        $key2 = null;
>>       // Done adding
>>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>>                $key1=$keys[0];
>>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>>        {
>>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>>        }
>>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 
>> => $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>>    }
>>    return $return_data;
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>>
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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 20:27:12 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:27:12 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <677641040604181015q3e5e1955n338d14c20b114ddc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA+vVFbK0fJUuenLxmtgRvHAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Jorge,

 

You can have a look at that page

 

http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/

 

If you are interested, I have started to put some stuff on vtiger wiki :

 

http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Developing_Charts_using_ImageGraph

 

I don?t have any idea why Image Graph is still at alpha stage. For the tests
I have done, it looks stable.

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Jorge Garifuna
Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 19:15
? : gopals at vtiger.com; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced

 

Gopal,

 

Thanks for the link. 

 

I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state
(http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download). 

 

- Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
piece of software for organizations?

 

- Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 


 

On 4/18/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote: 

Dear Jorge Garifuna,

Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal 
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com <http://gopal.vtiger.com/>  
Skype: sripadag 
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437 





---- info at garidigital.com <mailto:info at garidigital.com>  wrote ---- 

nice move!

 

Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  


 

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com > wrote: 

There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac 
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch 
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>
>> -----Message d'origine----- 
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto: vtigercrm-
<mailto:vtigercrm-> 
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk 
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com> 
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance. 
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES 
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com> 
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14 
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> included. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it 
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>> 
>> we
>>
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>>> This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho
Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>
>> down
>>
>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX 
>>>> 
>> enabled,
>>
>>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho
Planner. Still scribbling
>>>
>> down
>>
>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>
>> enabled, 
>>
>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! 
>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>>>
>>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>> This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho
Planner. Still scribbling
>>>
>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! 
>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho Planner.
Still scribbling down
>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
enabled, 
>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! 
>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho Planner.
Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands?
Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE
instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
_______________________________________________
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Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 21:08:58 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:08:58 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please stop adding bug reports for v5
	without setting the milestone.
Message-ID: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>

And for that matter, more and better milestones would be a good idea too.

I look at the bug reports by milestone (ticket listing 3) so having a 
bunch with unset milestones for v5 gets in the way.

Mike

From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 18 21:18:07 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:18:07 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA+vVFbK0fJUuenLxmtgRvHAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
References: <677641040604181015q3e5e1955n338d14c20b114ddc@mail.gmail.com>
	<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA+vVFbK0fJUuenLxmtgRvHAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <677641040604182118o709d8d9h9c886c8a8a395451@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for sharing Michael!

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Michel JACQUEMES <m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote:
>
>  Hi Jorge,
>
>
>
> You can have a look at that page
>
>
>
> http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/
>
>
>
> If you are interested, I have started to put some stuff on vtiger wiki :
>
>
>
> http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Developing_Charts_using_ImageGraph
>
>
>
> I don't have any idea why Image Graph is still at alpha stage. For the
> tests I have done, it looks stable.
>
>
>
> Michel
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *De :* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *De la part de* Jorge
> Garifuna
> *Envoy? :* mardi 18 avril 2006 19:15
> *? :* gopals at vtiger.com; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>
> *Objet :* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
>
>
> Gopal,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the link.
>
>
>
> I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state (
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download).
>
>
>
> - Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
> piece of software for organizations?
>
>
>
> - Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, *Gopal* <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jorge Garifuna,
>
> Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:
>
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/
>
> Thanks,
> Gopal
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ---- info at garidigital.com wrote ----
>
> nice move!
>
>
>
> Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, *Mike Fedyk* <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com > wrote:
>
> There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
>
> Mike
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> > files?
> >
> > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> them,
> > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> >>
> >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> >>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >>>
> >>> Regrads,
> >>>
> >>> Remco
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens
> Michel
> >>> JACQUEMES
> >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You're welcome Fathi
> >>>
> >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>>
> >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >>
> >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> included.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>
> >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> what
> >>>>>
> >> we
> >>
> >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> congratulations !!!
> >>>> thanks michel.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >>>>
> >> enabled,
> >>
> >>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >>>
> >> enabled,
> >>
> >>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>
> >>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>
> >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> down
> >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
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> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
>
>
>
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>
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From allan.bush at gmail.com  Tue Apr 18 23:36:14 2006
From: allan.bush at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:36:14 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please stop adding bug reports for v5
	without setting the milestone.
In-Reply-To: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>
References: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604182336xb6978c9x8fa77ae313697dfc@mail.gmail.com>

I agree.
I wouldn't bother trying to fix all the bug reports right now,
hopefully when this round of QA is finished someone with access to the
trac backend can just fix them all in one go.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> And for that matter, more and better milestones would be a good idea too.
>
> I look at the bug reports by milestone (ticket listing 3) so having a
> bunch with unset milestones for v5 gets in the way.
>
> Mike
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Fri Apr 21 00:52:55 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:52:55 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
	<4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>

Good to see you back Mike.

Any word on richie putting rc3 out?
I've created a patch for ticket #86
(http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/86), depending on
what state everything is in we may want to try and slip it in under
the wire.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> Yes, any time.
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
> > few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
> >>
> >> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
> >>
> >> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Allan Bush wrote:
> >>
> >>> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> >>> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> >>> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> >>> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
> >>>
> >>> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> >>> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> >>> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> >>> start working on stuff for the next release.
> >>>
> >>> Allan
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>
> >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
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From richie at vtiger.com  Fri Apr 21 01:27:15 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:27:15 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>	<4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
	<3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10abb8f5c06.-9220458501084372140.2763426437080733311@@vtiger.com>

Hi! 
 
I am waiting for mikef's nod. 
mikef, let me know when you want me to put and give 
out the exe/bin for 4.2.4. 
 
Richie




---- Allan Bush&lt;allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Good to see you back Mike.

Any word on richie putting rc3 out?
I've created a patch for ticket #86
(http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/86), depending on
what state everything is in we may want to try and slip it in under
the wire.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk &lt;mfedyk at mikefedyk.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; Yes, any time.
&gt;
&gt; Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
&gt; &gt; I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
&gt; &gt; few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; -----Message d'origine-----
&gt; &gt;&gt; De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
&gt; &gt;&gt; developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
&gt; &gt;&gt; Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
&gt; &gt;&gt; ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
&gt; &gt;&gt; Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Mike
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Allan Bush wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; related to packaging and both have patches ready to go. I agree the
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release? Mike Fedyk seems
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; package the release? I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; start working on stuff for the next release.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Allan
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
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&gt; &gt;&gt; enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
&gt; &gt;&gt; http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Fri Apr 21 09:20:42 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:20:42 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SVN commit syntax
Message-ID: <3bec26390604210920y7af6e204m2a8c116dca4aff52@mail.gmail.com>

I'm glad to see more people taking advantage of the trac ticket
system, I find it extremely  useful myself and I'm sure everyone else
will as well.  I just want to point out a couple shortcuts that will
make everyone's life a little easier.

If you included certain key phrases in your SVN commit message any
relevant tickets will be automatically modified.  The ones I find
useful are "Refs #<ticket number>" and "Closes #<ticket number>".  I'm
sure there are more of these but I can't find an documentation on this
(trust me they works, I've done it several times myself).

If your commit message included "Refs #<ticket number>" (ie: Refs
#223) then that ticket will automatically get linked to your checked
in changeset and a comment added matching your commit message.  This
is super useful in tracking the progress on fixing a bug.

If your commit message included "Closes #<ticket number>" then you get
the same effect as using "Refs" plus the added bonus of having the
ticket close itself automatically saving you from having to do it
yourself.

If we could all agree to use this syntax it would greatly increase the
value of the ticket system.


From jtk at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 21 10:12:29 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:12:29 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SVN commit syntax
References: <3bec26390604210920y7af6e204m2a8c116dca4aff52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.21.17.12.28.374020@yahoo.com>

Allan Bush wrote:
> I'm glad to see more people taking advantage of the trac ticket
> system

I concur 100% in thanking the vtiger team for starting to use trac tickets
for their trunk development.

Here is the relevant documentation for the python script that handles this
integration of commit messages and the ticket system.

-----------

It searches commit messages for text in the form of:

  command #1
  command #1, #2
  command #1 & #2
  command #1 and #2
 
You can have more then one command in a message. The following commands
are supported. There is more then one spelling for each command, to make
this as user-friendly as possible. 

 closes, fixes
   The specified issue numbers are closed with the contents of
   this commit message being added to it.

 references, refs, addresses, re 
   The specified issue numbers are left in their current status, but
   the contents of this commit message are added to their notes. 


A fairly complicated example of what you can do is with a commit message
of:

   Changed blah and foo to do this or that. Fixes #10 and #12, and refs
   #12.

This will close #10 and #12, and add a note to #12.


-------------

Also be sure to aprise yourself of the trac syntax for embedding code and
revision references in your checkin messages. Makes browsing the
repository very easy. I used these in changesets such as:

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5114

  refs #62 and #17. merging source:vtigercrm/branches/4.2 r5080 through
  r5113 to source:vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. allanbush
  fixed CreatePDF.php pdf generation bugs

That's a little overboard for routine commits, of course, but explicit
references to logical source and destination are very useful for merges
and other branching actions.

Thanks again to everybody creating all those tickets recently. If we can
get somebody with access to the database backend to update their
milestones (currently set to none), that would be a tremendous release
planning asset. 


From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Sun Apr 23 16:10:17 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:10:17 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
Message-ID: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
the forge is not available for me.

Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?

A?ssa

From fboudra at free.fr  Mon Apr 24 05:25:54 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:25:54 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
In-Reply-To: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>

hi aissa,

> Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
> the forge is not available for me.
>
> Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?

maintenance : box upgrade goes wrong since last update.

i'm working on it...

cheers,

Fathi

From richie at vtiger.com  Mon Apr 24 07:26:18 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:26:18 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
Message-ID: <10acc4b2a57.-3766842912071413281.6608330223419069294@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

The code base is slowly being stabilized and I would expect it to be upto the mark 
by around May 7th or so. 

I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

Thanks,
Richie
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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Mon Apr 24 14:08:37 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:08:37 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <000001c667ab$9e760100$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B73D4@office.nubrek.local>

Richie,
 
In my view it is a must for vTiger 5 to support PostgreSQL.  This is a sensitive topic here, so I'll try to be objective and not start a flame war:

1.	
	MySQL is not opensource, it requires $ and a license to use it commercially --which as someone pointed out earlier, is the main driver for using vTiger in the first place, to make money.
2.	
	MySQL does not own the INNODB transactional table type, Oracle does
3.	
	Oracle, the other database supported (?) is not open source
4.	
	Compliance with PostgreSQL suggests that the codebase is much more tightly aligned with the ANSI SQL2000 standard --which easily leads to support for other Adodb databases
5.	
	PostgresSQL has a strong following on this list and there are many individuals who are ready and willing to contribute.  I would highlight bushwack and jeffk who have performed significant amounts of work in bringing PostgreSQL support to 4.2.4

If we're agressively pursuing opensource components for vTiger, I think we need to ensure that consumers aren't forced into a non-opensource license just to run the application.  If someone wants to run this on a Windows Server XXXX with an Oracle db, I wish them luck.  At the same time, we want folks with Fedora core X, to be able to legitimately run vTiger without shelling out $.

All of this said, I see two main drivers to get PostgreSQL support in vTiger 5 before release.

1.	Added portability and stability by supporting an ANSI SQL 2000-compliant db.
2.	Removed dependence on non-opensource software.

This is my view.

- Joel


________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Richie
Sent: Mon 4/24/2006 9:30 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5


Hello!

The code base is slowly being stabilized and I would expect it to be upto the mark 
by around May 7th or so. 

I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

Thanks,
Richie
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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Mon Apr 24 14:10:33 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:10:33 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
In-Reply-To: <200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <1145913034.5434.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Totally my fault, I upgraded some of the packages in the sarge security
repo and the whole thing died.  Hopefully Fathi can fix it up soon.
Fathi let me know if you need anything from me to help move this along.

My bad.

Matt

On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 14:25 +0200, Fathi Boudra wrote:
> hi aissa,
> 
> > Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
> > the forge is not available for me.
> >
> > Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?
> 
> maintenance : box upgrade goes wrong since last update.
> 
> i'm working on it...
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Fathi
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 


From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 24 14:36:16 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:36:16 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
Message-ID: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>

Good day everyone,

I noticed that a branch was created for the 4.2.4 release, I take this
a a sign that I can start putting stuff into the 4.2 branch for the
4.2.5 release.

The first thing I'd like to do is to merge the 4.2_postgres branch
into the 4.2 branch (ticket #17).  I'd like to leave in the code from
ticket #69 (http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/69)
well doing this as I think the extra debugging information could
benefit from the eyes of a wider release.  If anyone has any comments
on this lets hear it.

jeffk, you seem to know how to juggle the svn branching/merging, feel
free to merge the branches.  If you're busy I'll figure it out and
probably do it later tonight.

Allan


From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 14:44:00 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:44:00 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:36:16 -0700, Allan Bush wrote:
> jeffk, you seem to know how to juggle the svn branching/merging, feel
> free to merge the branches.  If you're busy I'll figure it out and
> probably do it later tonight.

I'll do that right now. I'm doing the mechanical merge, it will need
testing (I have zero php-debugging-fu; I just do a quick install of the
demo dataset and duck ;)

Any bugs found post merge should get trac tickets with the 4.2.5
milestone.



From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 15:36:37 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:36:37 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>

OK, the branches have been merged.

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5306

Per the longwinded changeset log, there will surely be breakage and some
rapid integration work needed to support both postgresql and mysql for the
end user.

When this is done, we should delete
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration and close tickets #62 and
#17.

Thanks for all the postgresql support. I encourage Richie and his team to
review this changeset and apply relevant portions and lessons to
vtigercrm/trunk ASAP.



From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 24 18:21:41 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:21:41 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604241821v466df53jf1e60cfa7d615f28@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Jeff

I don't really anticipate anything being broken as the 4.2 branch is
nearly the same as the postgres branch now and I tested that with
mysql and postgres installations, but we'll see.

On 4/24/06, Jeff Kowalczyk <jtk at yahoo.com> wrote:
> OK, the branches have been merged.
>
> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5306
>
> Per the longwinded changeset log, there will surely be breakage and some
> rapid integration work needed to support both postgresql and mysql for the
> end user.
>
> When this is done, we should delete
> vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration and close tickets #62 and
> #17.
>
> Thanks for all the postgresql support. I encourage Richie and his team to
> review this changeset and apply relevant portions and lessons to
> vtigercrm/trunk ASAP.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 19:41:28 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:41:28 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>

Richie wrote:
> I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

   There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
   another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.


From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 19:47:36 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:47:36 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>

Richie wrote:
> (...) vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

GA? What's that? ;)

Oh, you must mean the tagged releases with a series of predictable names
of the form vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 through vtigercrm-5.0.0?

The ones that linux packagers will be glad to distributed to millions of
grateful users?

Sorry, Richie, the version naming curmudgeon(s) will coming to the party
once the team gets ready to start calling it beta. We'll bring cake,
though.

;)


From rrg at r2g.nl  Tue Apr 25 02:11:41 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:11:41 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKCEILCBAA.rrg@r2g.nl>

Hi Jeff,

I agree with you, giving more people a choice which db to use at the start
of implementing VtigerCRM highlites the best part of using OpenSource.
Having implemented VtigerCRM at several clients of mine on a online
webserver works fine.
Being able to use a different db backend for integration with others apps
would be great.
Just to make it clear I need both databases for this: mysql and postgressql.
If at some point we would be able to use firebird as well, well that will be
the day for me :-)

Regards,

Remco Gerbrands




-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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Kowalczyk
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 april 2006 4:41
Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5


Richie wrote:
> I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

   There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
   another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.

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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Tue Apr 25 14:44:41 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:44:41 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
Message-ID: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
many of us aren't watching the forums.
Let me know what you think.
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541

Matt


From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Apr 25 20:06:51 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:06:51 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <10ad429d1dc.7191252965695616562.7859674740524310394@@vtiger.com>

Dear Matt,

Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass mail. 

Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level. 

Regards,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal 
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com 
Skype: sripadag 
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437 





----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ---- 

I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
many of us aren't watching the forums.
Let me know what you think.
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541

Matt

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 26 11:14:53 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:14:53 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>

matt, WRT mail tracking, how do you track the "opened" state if the
MUA does not download external images (most MUAs todays do that)

I didn't undertand when you say the clear icon is "scanned" ...

regards,
/sergio

On 4/26/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>  Dear Matt,
>
> Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found
> very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I
> exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass
> mail.
>
> Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will
> definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level.
>
> Regards,
> Gopal
>
> S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
>
>
>
>
>
> ----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ----
>
>
>
> I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
> many of us aren't watching the forums.
> Let me know what you think.
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541
>
> Matt
>
> _______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Wed Apr 26 12:38:36 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:38:36 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
	<49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1146080316.5434.119.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Sergio,
	You're right, the good MUA's don't automatically load images.  In that
case you may not get the initial 'open' action if the user doesn't allow
the images to load.  In quite a few cases you can get around this with
an embedded iframe but I am not a big fan of using that method because
it has so much potential for abuse.  There are also email clients (like
evolution) that will cache the images so they only load once, in that
case you'll never now if the user re-opened the email.  As far as
scanning, when I was reading up on email tracking methods I had run
across a site that mentioned some filtering systems will actually load
the images when the email is scanned.  I haven't run across this yet
myself and it seems a bit counter intuitive if the scanning mechanism
was trying to detect spam :).
	I've also noticed that if you enabled tracking and unsub links in your
email the spam rating will jump at least 1 point with most spam filters
like spamassasin.

	I've sent a campaign out to some of our clients and it had a 100% open
rate which to me means that either many users don't have image loading
turned off, or they use one of those crappier clients that offers you no
protection from tracking.  So really YMMV because of the way different
MUA's handle images, but so far my experience has been that most users
don't bother to use those MUA's or don't bother to enable the tracking
protections.

Matt

On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 15:14 -0300, Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> matt, WRT mail tracking, how do you track the "opened" state if the
> MUA does not download external images (most MUAs todays do that)
> 
> I didn't undertand when you say the clear icon is "scanned" ...
> 
> regards,
> /sergio
> 
> On 4/26/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
> >  Dear Matt,
> >
> > Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found
> > very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I
> > exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass
> > mail.
> >
> > Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will
> > definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gopal
> >
> > S.S.G.Gopal
> > Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> > Skype: sripadag
> > Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ----
> >
> >
> >
> > I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
> > many of us aren't watching the forums.
> > Let me know what you think.
> > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
> > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
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> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
> 
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From jg at garinet.com  Wed Apr 26 23:57:40 2006
From: jg at garinet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:57:40 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5. Need
	help
Message-ID: <677641040604262357t1b2b09fk8db5a1dac628a455@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
there is problem on step 3 of 5.

Here is the error I'm getting:

   Step 3 of 5 [image: vtiger CRM]       Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters
specified   *

Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons:

- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
- specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
server from the host*
 *

Kindly check the specified database connection parameters...

*
Here is what I have:
-- vTiger 4.2.3
-- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
-- PHP Version: 4.3.2

I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
script with the same host name, user name and db name.

The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943

Thanks in advanced for your help.


--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Thu Apr 27 03:23:48 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:23:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] About locate map on vtiger 5.
Message-ID: <44509BB4.2050908@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
the new locate map functionnality is cool on vtiger CRM 5.
I think this function can be best, with "Get direction".
By using my company address and customer address, we can have the road 
direction on google maps.

Map + road direction = very cool to move.

Respect,
A?ssa.

From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 06:24:05 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:24:05 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10adb854511.-6759985834055790868.6453244679148152047@@vtiger.com>

Hi! 
 
Why am i starting to hate this guy ? :D! 
 
How to go about handling the Postgres integration into v5 please? 
All suggestions are welcome. 
Allan Bush and Joel , it will be nice to get a response from you. 
 
Richie




---- Jeff Kowalczyk&lt;jtk at yahoo.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Richie wrote:
&gt; (...) vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

GA? What's that? ;)

Oh, you must mean the tagged releases with a series of predictable names
of the form vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 through vtigercrm-5.0.0?

The ones that linux packagers will be glad to distributed to millions of
grateful users?

Sorry, Richie, the version naming curmudgeon(s) will coming to the party
once the team gets ready to start calling it beta. We'll bring cake,
though.

;)

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From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 06:25:30 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:25:30 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10adb869364.-649200440285564960.-7653367893237445779@@vtiger.com>

Hello! 
 
Agreed. We will support Postgres but we need help. 
Here, we are working on the bug-fixes and are totally 
swamped. 
All hands welcome for Postgres support. 
 
Richie




---- Jeff Kowalczyk&lt;jtk at yahoo.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Richie wrote:
&gt; I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
&gt; GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

 There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
 another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql&lt;-&gt;postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.

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From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 06:27:35 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:27:35 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5
Message-ID: <10adb8879c7.-4170929643010971357.7693297806886073293@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

We have not made much progress in v5 with respect to the muli-language support.
We need help. 

Please do suggest approaches for the same as well.

We had been initially working on mikecrowe's contribution but we are not able to get
in touch with him for sometime now so the job is still incomplete.

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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 08:50:33 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:50:33 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Richie,

To support Postgres there are about 3 or 4 things you need to consider
on all the queries made.  If you see my post in the forums
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=2597 I've outlined the
problems that need to be addressed (yes that's for a different version
but the problems will be the same, except for the first problem which
an adodb upgrade solved).

In order for Postgres support to be possible those issues need to be
addressed in the current code AND all developers must continue to
address them in all further code they write.  If I can be assured of
the second point I'll make the required changes once the code base is
somewhat stable and feature complete (I'm thinking between beta1 and
beta2).

Allan

PS fyi how I go about finding and fixing these issues is I tweak
adodb's debugging ala ticket #69 and then install and use vtiger
fixing the database errors as I come across them

On 4/27/06, Richie <richie at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Agreed. We will support Postgres but we need help.
> Here, we are working on the bug-fixes and are totally
> swamped.
> All hands welcome for Postgres support.
>
>
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Jeff Kowalczyk<jtk at yahoo.com> wrote ----
>
>
>  Richie wrote:
> > I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> > GA please.
>
> I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
> someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
> reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
> integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.
>
> But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
> postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:
>
>  There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
>  another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.
>
> Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
> on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
> vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
> months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?
>
> Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
> have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
> preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
> wrong with a converted dataset.
>
> I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
> at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
> needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 27 09:13:15 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:13:15 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
	<3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.27.16.13.14.294948@yahoo.com>

Allan Bush wrote:
> To support Postgres there are about 3 or 4 things you need to consider
> on all the queries made.  If you see my post in the forums
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=2597 I've outlined the problems
> that need to be addressed (yes that's for a different version but the
> problems will be the same, except for the first problem which an adodb
> upgrade solved).

I think it would be useful to have a trac ticket listing those four
requirements, plus any additions or refinements you encountered since your
work with vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration.

The vtiger team can help you help them by adding "refs #(number)" to any
checkins they make in the coming weeks that follow your ticket's
postgresql-readiness advice. Committers will eventually internalize those
guidelines when writing new code. You (Allan) will also have a nice
indicator of how much postgresql prep work has been done at any given
point, and can better decide when to jump in.

I agree that you'll want to have a somewhat slower change-velocity (e.g.
during beta) before giving it a thorough conversion and sign-off as to its
readiness.

IMO adodb API usage that is limited to mysql (or any single backend) is a
bug and fixing it would not be a new feature, so I think it's OK to
fix/add postgresql and other backend support during the beta period.

Disclaimers at install-time that there is no announced support for
migrating from one database backend to another would be wise.


From jg at garidigital.com  Thu Apr 27 09:23:45 2006
From: jg at garidigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:23:45 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5. Need
	help
Message-ID: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,



I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
there is problem on step 3 of 5.



Here is the error I'm getting:


   Step 3 of 5


       Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified



  *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *

*- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
- specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
server from the host*

*Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *

Here is what I have:
-- vTiger 4.2.3

-- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
-- PHP Version: 4.3.2


I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
script with the same host name, user name and db name.



The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out



http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104



http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943



Thanks in advanced for your help.



--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 09:45:29 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:15:29 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will this
	help?
Message-ID: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant 
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do 
you think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience?

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can 
generate an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar 
quotes using the information of that particular quote like account name, 
potential name, address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, 
you cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining 
to that product etc.


regards,
Saint


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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 10:20:00 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:20:00 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5.
	Need help
In-Reply-To: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>

This isn't really the place for user support, you'll have much better luck
in the forms.  Also posting the same thing twice isn't going to win you any
fans.

Your problem is, as stated, vtiger can't connect to your database.  If you
have some technical knowledge the line that's failing is line 50 of
install/3confirmConfig.php you may be able to figure it out from there.  My
first guess is that your mysql installation doesn't support/allow persistent
connections.

On 4/27/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garidigital.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
> but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
> there is problem on step 3 of 5.
>
>
>
> Here is the error I'm getting:
>
>
>    Step 3 of 5
>
>
>
>        Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified
>
>
>
>   *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
> connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *
>
> *- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
> - specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
> server from the host *
>
> *Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *
>
> Here is what I have:
> -- vTiger 4.2.3
>
> -- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
> -- PHP Version: 4.3.2
>
>
> I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
> script with the same host name, user name and db name.
>
>
>
> The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
> was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943
>
>
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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>
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From jg at garidigital.com  Thu Apr 27 10:42:58 2006
From: jg at garidigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:42:58 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5.
	Need help
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
	<3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604271042l4f205b02ybf3755fcc12cc8e8@mail.gmail.com>

Allan

I certainly appreciate your reply. I'm a supporter of vTiger CRM (
http://www.garidigital.com/docs/vtiger/
http://www.theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5 ) and the reason I post here is
because I exhausted my options on the forum. I certainly do not need your
lectures about the appropriate place to place my questions. If I didn't know
better I wouldn't mind your suggestion. I think we can all benefit much
better from this medium by assisting each other so  that vTiger CRM can grow
even more.

Any other assistance would be greatly appreciated.
--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/27/06, Allan Bush <allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This isn't really the place for user support, you'll have much better luck
> in the forms.  Also posting the same thing twice isn't going to win you any
> fans.
>
> Your problem is, as stated, vtiger can't connect to your database.  If you
> have some technical knowledge the line that's failing is line 50 of
> install/3confirmConfig.php you may be able to figure it out from there.  My
> first guess is that your mysql installation doesn't support/allow persistent
> connections.
>
>  On 4/27/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garidigital.com> wrote:
>
> >  Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
> but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
> there is problem on step 3 of 5.
>
>
>
> Here is the error I'm getting:
>
>
>    Step 3 of 5
>
>
>
>        Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified
>
>
>
>   *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
> connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *
>
> *- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
> - specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
> server from the host *
>
> *Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *
>
> Here is what I have:
> -- vTiger 4.2.3
>
> -- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
> -- PHP Version: 4.3.2
>
>
> I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
> script with the same host name, user name and db name.
>
>
>
> The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
> was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943
>
>
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 27 12:29:29 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:29:29 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
	<3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.27.19.29.28.127076@yahoo.com>

Just to see what an automatic merge would accomplish to bring the 4.2
postgresql support to the trunk, I did a dry run merge. Definitely file
this under 'foolhardy merging that would break the trunk in many ways':

In svn update/merge console output, 'U' indicates clean merge of
changesets, 'C' indicates conflicting lines.

This merge testing is done with a trunk checkout:

 URL: http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/trunk
 Revision: 5506

Changeset 5306 is the changeset that merged the work from
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration to the 4.2 branch.

The following files would apparently get clean automatic merges of the
changeset that adds postgresql support to branches/4.2:

 $ svn merge --dry-run
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5305
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5306 |
 grep 'U  ' 
 U    modules/Reports/SaveReportFolder.php
 U    modules/Reports/Save.php
 U    modules/Reports/Reports.php
 U    modules/Settings/SaveConvertLead.php
 U    modules/Settings/DeleteCustomField.php
 U    modules/Settings/UpdateComboValues.php
 U    modules/Users/User.php
 U    modules/Users/massdelete.php
 U    modules/Users/updateLeadDBStatus.php
 U    modules/Calendar/appointment.pinc
 U    modules/Import/UsersLastImport.php
 U    include/database/PearDatabase.php
 U    schema/DatabaseSchema.xml

This definitely doesn't mean complete support (in these files) for
postgresql, only that the changesets from the branch would cleanly merge
to the trunk without additional effort.

These (many) other files would have conflict lines added to the source.
This would definitely bring PHP syntax breakage, and require immediate
attention to resolve the conflicts before the code would even run again:

 $ svn merge --dry-run
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5305
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5306 |
 grep 'C  '
 C    config.inc.php
 C    modules/Accounts/ListViewTop.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Account.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Popup_picker.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Popup.php
 C    modules/Accounts/ListView.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Quote.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Delete.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Popup.php
 C    modules/Quotes/ListView.php
 C    modules/Potentials/Popup.php
 C    modules/Potentials/ListView.php
 C    modules/Potentials/Opportunity.php
 C    modules/Leads/Popup.php
 C    modules/Leads/Lead.php
 C    modules/Leads/ListView.php
 C    modules/Leads/LeadConvertToEntities.php
 C    modules/Home/UnifiedSearch.php
 C    modules/Notes/Delete.php
 C    modules/Notes/ListView.php
 C    modules/Invoice/Invoice.php
 C    modules/Invoice/ListView.php
 C    modules/Reports/ReportRun.php
 C    modules/Reports/PopulateReports.php
 C    modules/HelpDesk/HelpDesk.php
 C    modules/HelpDesk/ListView.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveProfile.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveOrgSharing.php
 C    modules/Users/LoginHistory.php
 C    modules/Users/saveemailtemplate.php
 C    modules/Users/ListView.php
 C    modules/Users/Security.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveRole.php
 C    modules/Products/Popup.php
 C    modules/Products/AddProductsToPriceBook.php
 C    modules/Products/ListView.php
 C    modules/Products/Delete.php
 C    modules/Products/Product.php
 C    modules/Activities/Activity.php
 C    modules/Activities/ListView.php
 C    modules/Activities/RenderRelatedListUI.php
 C    modules/Activities/OpenListView.php
 C    modules/CustomView/Save.php
 C    modules/CustomView/CustomView.php
 C    modules/Faq/ListView.php
 C    modules/uploads/add2db.php
 C    modules/Emails/Email.php
 C    modules/Emails/ListView.php
 C    modules/Contacts/Contact.php
 C    modules/Contacts/Popup.php
 C    modules/Contacts/ListView.php
 C    data/CRMEntity.php
 C    data/SugarBean.php
 C    include/RelatedListView.php
 C    include/PopulateComboValues.php
 C    install/5createTables.inc.php
 C    install/4createConfigFile.php
 C    install/1checkSystem.php
 C    install/2setConfig.php
 C    install/populateSeedData.php
 C    install/3confirmConfig.php
 C    adodb/adodb.inc.php
 C    adodb/adodb-lib.inc.php
 C    adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php

There are a few skipped files, due to move, rename or removal in trunk.

Again, merging and subsequently resolving these many conflicts would by no
means imply completed postgresql support for the trunk.

However, any approach that brings the trunk and maintained branches closer
together would be a positive thing.

Once vtigercrm-5.0.0 is in production, certainly people will want to
back-port selected features, and forward-port bug fixes during the long
lifecycle of the vtigercrm-4.2.x series. Minimizing diffs between
branches always makes that process easier.

Just FYI. I don't think this merge (except for the 'U' files) would do
any good at this point. Allan can probably move through the trunk codebase
quicker with his method.


Note: svn revert doesn't undo conflict messages AFAICT. If you try this
merge without the --dry-run option, be prepared to check out a fresh trunk
working copy after you are done examining the results.


From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Thu Apr 27 20:14:14 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:14:14 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
	this	help?
In-Reply-To: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAn3Ohn2d+IU+m4J2aYwsDTQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Saint,

 

It could be a useful feature, especially knowing that user can have an
action on an object without leaving the context of this object.

It will be more useful if you do the same thing on a listview. SAP has
introduced that naming it ?drag & activate?. Suppose you are on a customer
listview, you drag a customer line over  invoice menu line and you get
invoices listview for this customer. This can be extended almost everywhere.

 

May be I am wrong, but I think also that it is not very difficult to
implement because it can be a general template.

 

Another idea is that with such feature we are not very far from workflow
management.

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Saint
Envoy? : jeudi 27 avril 2006 18:45
? : LANCER : Developers List
Objet : [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will this
help?

 

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do you
think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience? 

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can generate
an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar quotes using
the information of that particular quote like account name, potential name,
address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, you
cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining to that
product etc. 


regards,
Saint




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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Sat Apr 29 01:18:40 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:18:40 +0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5
In-Reply-To: <10adb8879c7.-4170929643010971357.7693297806886073293@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <001001c66b65$8da86490$6364a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hello Richie,

 

I am not sure about the approach taken, but would it happen to be based on
language files? If so, publishing the language file template would be a
start for volunteers to begin localization work?

 

  _____  

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of
Richie
Sent: 27 April 2006 20:28
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5

 

Hello!

We have not made much progress in v5 with respect to the muli-language
support.
We need help. 

Please do suggest approaches for the same as well.

We had been initially working on mikecrowe's contribution but we are not
able to get
in touch with him for sometime now so the job is still incomplete.

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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Sat Apr 29 01:18:40 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:18:40 +0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
	thishelp?
In-Reply-To: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <001801c66b65$97492520$6364a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hello team,

 

I would like to add my observation on this "Detailed View".

 

Before this is rolled out "all out", I believe the more important thing is
that this would be one of the beginning steps of Sales Automation, this
example would aptly be the "order progress". I would see this screen being
particularly useful for Account Executives and Field Sales:

 

*	Able to check on previous orders from this client; if a "quick
notes" section that can list out some user configurable details such as
"Last order date", "Last order size", "Any outstanding cases", etc on the
right column just above the "Actions" would be a great assistance. 
*	Able to pull data seamlessly from all modules (ie. Price book, terms
and conditions from existing options) without needing to "right-click and
open" other tabs.

 

An enhanced version for management purposes would be to allow all detailed
views to open up as below, including those that are "done" so as to do
checking. Versioning for any adjustments and auto-numbering (with reference
on who adjusted what) would be important also in this screen.

 

Finally I certainly do hope that this would set the fundamental workflow
system in place for the workflow module!

 

  _____  

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Saint
Sent: 27 April 2006 23:45
To: LANCER : Developers List
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
thishelp?

 

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do you
think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience? 

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can generate
an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar quotes using
the information of that particular quote like account name, potential name,
address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, you
cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining to that
product etc. 


regards,
Saint



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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr  3 07:15:46 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:15:46 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <10a507fa4a9.3228964008498662867.8913703528505651198@@vtiger.com>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>	<49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
	<10a507fa4a9.3228964008498662867.8913703528505651198@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443103E2.9090300@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi,
because i have often discussions with Richie, i can tell : the vtiger 
team is really open and listen users. If you really test vtiger 5, you 
can see the alpha version as less bug than 4.2.3.
An exemple on vtiger crm 4.x, if you have a lead with description 
contain " or ', when convert, you loose the data (you don't loose 
really, but the lead is marked as deleted, and no account created), it's 
now correct, and vtiger crm is still in alpha. I have a lot of other 
exemple, if you create a customview, with custom field, you obtain an 
sql error, in 5 alpha, that work.

No free critics, like we say in france, easy to critic, difficult to do.
Telling vtiger crm is not 100% translatable is honest, all can see that 
and know that, telling vtiger team do not follow the community is not 
justice.

Sak, Juao, Adlibweb, we can joint Kleo efforts 
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5773.

To Saint, have look to the screenshot, some layers are missplaced 
(settings1.gif), and require mouse action to be see. On the 
settings2.gif, can you increase the layer size ?
The fader effect in "my account" is really cool.

To Richie, i have a problem with company info, if i use ', nothing is 
saved, my search on files SaveCompany.php and add2db.php give nothing.
I can spend a part of my nights and week-end to "unharcode" v5 during 
beta phases, please explain the difference between {$MOD.STRINGS} and 
{CMOD.STRINGS}.
Thanks,
A?ssa
 

Richie a ?crit :

> That, is not the exact fact.
> We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues 
> at our end. Once we resolve those,
> we will have it integrated into the product.
>
> /sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time.
> internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we 
> have been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see 
> for everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. 
> Every contribution is important to us and we try hard to
> do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to 
> integrate all of them quickly.
> MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have
> worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the 
> issues. We still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon 
> with his help.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ----
>
>     once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using
>     gettext,
>     is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(
>
>     /sak
>
>     On 3/31/06, adlibweb <info at adlibweb.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > ----- Original Message -----
>     > From: Joao Oliveira
>     > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>     > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
>     > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for
>     other lang
>     >
>     > Hello all,
>     >
>     > I totally agree with you A?ssa.
>     > I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries)
>     vtiger will
>     > loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>     >
>     > If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good
>     time to review
>     > all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>     >
>     > Best Regards
>     > Jo?o Oliveira.
>     >
>     >
>     > On 3/31/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
>     > > Hi team,
>     > > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think
>     about other
>     > > lang for release.
>     > >
>     > > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
>     > english.
>     > >
>     > > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link
>     too, so the
>     > > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
>     > >
>     > > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for
>     translaters.
>     > >
>     > > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
>     > >
>     > > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english
>     date format
>     > > here, in some others country we use different format (for
>     france, it's
>     > > Day month year).
>     > >
>     > > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call,
>     Meeting... Alway
>     > > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded
>     string as
>     > > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of
>     expectations on
>     > > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is
>     on beta
>     > > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after
>     feedback i open
>     > > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial
>     papers, and
>     > > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
>     > >
>     > > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
>     > > A?ssa
>     > >
>     > > .
>     > >
>     > >
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr  3 07:23:56 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:23:56 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] To the vtiger 4.2.4 mainteneers
Message-ID: <443105CC.8070807@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
in 4.x branches (the 5.x branches work correctly), when we create a 
customview with customfields, we obtain an peardatabase error this is a 
beginning of fix posted by raccoon on french forum :

on utils.php search for :
function getListQuery($module,$where='')

replace the query :
$query = "select crmentity.*, quotes.*, quotesbillads.*, 
quotesshipads.*,potential.potentialname,account.accountname from quotes 
inner join crmentity on crmentity.crmid=quotes.quoteid inner join 
quotesbillads on quotes.quoteid=quotesbillads.quotebilladdressid inner 
join quotesshipads on quotes.quoteid=quotesshipads.quoteshipaddressid 
left outer join account on account.accountid=quotes.accountid left outer 
join potential on potential.potentialid=quotes.potentialid where 
crmentity.deleted=0".$where;

by this one :
( left join quotescf on quotes.quoteid = quotescf.quoteid added for 
module quotes)

$query = "select crmentity.*, quotes.*, quotesbillads.*, 
quotesshipads.*,potential.potentialname,account.accountname from quotes 
inner join crmentity on crmentity.crmid=quotes.quoteid inner join 
quotesbillads on quotes.quoteid=quotesbillads.quotebilladdressid inner 
join quotesshipads on quotes.quoteid=quotesshipads.quoteshipaddressid 
left outer join account on account.accountid=quotes.accountid left outer 
join potential on potential.potentialid=quotes.potentialid left join 
quotescf on quotes.quoteid = quotescf.quoteid where crmentity.deleted=0 
".$where;


in v5, you can find the query in /includes/utils/ListViewUtils.php.
Thanks


From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Tue Apr  4 02:02:24 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 23:02:24 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed
In-Reply-To: <44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.03.21.18.48.23.560464@yahoo.com>
	<44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone out there testing this?

I've run all my tests and don't see any other problems with postgres
and I've given it a quick run through with mysql (again without
problems).

I'm sure there are still a few issues which could be found with more
eyes, but I'd say the changes are ready to be merged back into the
trunk as soon as 4.2.4 is created (any eta on this?).

It may be beneficial to leave the adodb debugging information in (see
ticket #69) until we get closer to the next release (4.2.5) as I find
it to be a huge help in tracking down (database) problems.

On 3/21/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
> > Allan Bush wrote:
> >
> >> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the
> >> installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent,
> >> now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs.
> >>
> >
> > Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an
> > install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't
> > noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful
> > contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger.
> >
> > I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in
> > postgresql).
> Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance.
>
> Mike
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Tue Apr  4 07:02:08 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:02:08 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com>	<pan.2006.03.21.18.48.23.560464@yahoo.com>	<44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
	<3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44325230.4000603@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi allan,
i'm testing with postgre 8.1.
for the moment, i have only (lots) errors messages during install, but 
all is working during use, table are correctly created...
I continue the test.
Cheer,
A?ssa
Allan Bush a ?crit :

>Is anyone out there testing this?
>
>I've run all my tests and don't see any other problems with postgres
>and I've given it a quick run through with mysql (again without
>problems).
>
>I'm sure there are still a few issues which could be found with more
>eyes, but I'd say the changes are ready to be merged back into the
>trunk as soon as 4.2.4 is created (any eta on this?).
>
>It may be beneficial to leave the adodb debugging information in (see
>ticket #69) until we get closer to the next release (4.2.5) as I find
>it to be a huge help in tracking down (database) problems.
>
>On 3/21/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Allan Bush wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the
>>>>installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent,
>>>>now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an
>>>install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't
>>>noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful
>>>contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger.
>>>
>>>I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in
>>>postgresql).
>>>      
>>>
>>Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance.
>>
>>Mike
>>_______________________________________________
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>>
>>    
>>
>
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>  
>



From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr  4 21:50:48 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:50:48 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
Message-ID: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>

Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?

What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?

Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean 
on the field table?

mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
+--------------------------------------------------+
| typeofdata                                       |
+--------------------------------------------------+
| V~M                                              |
| V~O                                              |
| I~O                                              |
| E~O                                              |
| C~O                                              |
| T~O                                              |
| D~O                                              |
| D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
| N~O                                              |
| D~M                                              |
| D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
| D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
| DT~M~time_start                                  |
| D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
| O~O                                              |
| T~M                                              |
| I~M                                              |
+--------------------------------------------------+
This just confuses the hell out of me.


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Wed Apr  5 00:30:30 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:30:30 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
In-Reply-To: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA6FaibYlvB0uuS3YI5vyrpQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Josh,

I have not the answer and I asked for explanation 2 month ago. I don't think
there is any, it is more probably some remaining thing from sugarcrm.

I worked a bit on that when migrating to mssql and found that it has to be
combined with uitype field:

 ("D","I","N")  are numeric, ("C","E","O") are not,
 "V" is numeric if uitype in (5,50,52,53,56,57)
 exceptions : tablename="contactdetails" columname="reportsto" uitype=57 ?
 "T" is numeric if uitype = 70

Not sure it helps, isn't it?

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Josh Lee
> Envoy??: mercredi 5 avril 2006 03:51
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com; vtigercrm-
> contributors at lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc?: Jeremy Lowery
> Objet?: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
> 
> Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?
> 
> What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?
> 
> Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean
> on the field table?
> 
> mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | typeofdata                                       |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | V~M                                              |
> | V~O                                              |
> | I~O                                              |
> | E~O                                              |
> | C~O                                              |
> | T~O                                              |
> | D~O                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
> | N~O                                              |
> | D~M                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
> | DT~M~time_start                                  |
> | D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
> | O~O                                              |
> | T~M                                              |
> | I~M                                              |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> This just confuses the hell out of me.
> 
> 
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net





From nolan at peaceworks.ca  Wed Apr  5 04:09:22 2006
From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:09:22 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
In-Reply-To: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
References: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44337B32.7050202@peaceworks.ca>

"O" / "M" seems to mean Optional vs. Mandatory

(M means a required field, and gets the little red star)

I haven't investigated the V/E/I/C/T stuff too much, yet...when creating 
my own fields, I've just mimicked something existing that's similar to 
what I want...

peace,
Nokes


Josh Lee wrote:
> Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?
> 
> What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?
> 
> Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean 
> on the field table?
> 
> mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | typeofdata                                       |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | V~M                                              |
> | V~O                                              |
> | I~O                                              |
> | E~O                                              |
> | C~O                                              |
> | T~O                                              |
> | D~O                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
> | N~O                                              |
> | D~M                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
> | DT~M~time_start                                  |
> | D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
> | O~O                                              |
> | T~M                                              |
> | I~M                                              |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> This just confuses the hell out of me.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Apr  6 09:33:22 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:03:22 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
Message-ID: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>

Guys,

Need your quick help.

We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into one 
UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send mails 
using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming list, 
pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category called 
"Qualified CRM emails".

I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a single 
tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the Inbox tree. 
Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable UI based on 
your views.

- Saint


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From jlee at zertis.net  Thu Apr  6 10:10:42 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:10:42 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>

I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I 
wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail 
for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
Saint wrote:

> Guys,
>
> Need your quick help.
>
> We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into 
> one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send 
> mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming 
> list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category 
> called "Qualified CRM emails".
>
> I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
> version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a 
> single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the 
> Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable 
> UI based on your views.
>
> - Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 10:42:07 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:42:07 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>

I have to agree with Josh,

I like the second one better.   Tabs can be a good thing, or if over used,
can be a bad thing.    The second one is a cleaner, better flow look.

Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it
don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it.


Jamie


On 4/6/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
> wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
> for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > Need your quick help.
> >
> > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into
> > one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
> > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> > called "Qualified CRM emails".
> >
> > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab
> > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the
> > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable
> > UI based on your views.
> >
> > - Saint
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 10:59:52 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:59:52 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>

saint, I also like the 2nd option,

but why not let do that job to the mail server ?

I mean, you just create a "CRM" folder in the mail store (be it pop3
or imap) and be done with that !

you still have to show all the folders, so this way, you knock two
birds with one stone.


/sak

On 4/6/06, Jamie Jackson <jamieinnh at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have to agree with Josh,
>
> I like the second one better.   Tabs can be a good thing, or if over used,
> can be a bad thing.    The second one is a cleaner, better flow look.
>
> Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it
> don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it.
>
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
> On 4/6/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> > I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
> > wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
> > for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > Need your quick help.
> > >
> > > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into
> > > one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
> > > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> > > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> > > called "Qualified CRM emails".
> > >
> > > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab
> > > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> > > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the
> > > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable
> > > UI based on your views.
> > >
> > > - Saint
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>



From larenas at internext.com.mx  Thu Apr  6 04:39:48 2006
From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:39:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I suggest a change on SaveSalesorder.php
In-Reply-To: <49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
	<44352162.6040504@zertis.net>	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4434D3D4.9050804@internext.com.mx>

foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val)
{
       
        if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname]))
   {
       $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname];
       $match = stristr($fieldname,'id');
     ***** NEW LINEs*****
       if($match != '0' && empty($value))$value = '0';
      elseif($match == '0' && empty($value)) $value = 'null';
          
        
         
        //echo '<BR>';
       //echo $fieldname."         ".$value;
       //echo '<BR>';
       $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value;
   }
       
}




From developer at infointegrated.com  Thu Apr  6 14:44:35 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:44:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>



I also agree about the second one defintely being the preferred layout. I
would still use webmail with POP, though I would also prefer IMAP
support.

Brian


 I
have to agree with Josh,

I like the second one better.   Tabs
can be a good thing, or if over used, can be a bad thing.    The second
one is a cleaner, better flow look.

Also, with the question of
IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it don't or won't use IMAP,
then I wouldn't use it.    


Jamie



On 4/6/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net>
wrote: I like
the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
wouldn't
use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
for
it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
Saint wrote: 

> Guys,
>
> Need your quick
help.
>
> We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and
Email accessibility into
> one UI.
>From a single UI, you can
receive all your POP mails and send
 > mails using SMTP. And if
there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> list, pertaining
to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> called
"Qualified CRM emails".
>
> I have attached two
images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
> version: "All
Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into
the
> Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the
best usable 
> UI based on your views.
>
> -
Saint
>
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------

>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored
by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper &
palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
Planner for FREE instead!  http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>


--
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net 



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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Thu Apr  6 15:51:00 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:51:00 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
Message-ID: <1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>

It supports every protocol that's handled by the PHP IMAP functions
which includes POP and IMAP (i havent tested POP yet).

Matt

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:44 -0500, Brian Devendorf wrote:
> I also agree about the second one defintely being the preferred
> layout. I would still use webmail with POP, though I would also prefer
> IMAP support.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> I have to agree with Josh,
> 
> I like the second one better. Tabs can be a good thing, or if over
> used, can be a bad thing. The second one is a cleaner, better flow
> look.
> 
> Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one. if
> it don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it. 
> 
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> On 4/6/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>         I like the second one more, however if it does not support
>         IMAP, I
>         wouldn't use it. I was under the impression that vtiger used
>         squirlmail
>         for it's email backed. If that is true, then it should support
>         IMAP.
>         Saint wrote: 
>         
>         > Guys,
>         >
>         > Need your quick help.
>         >
>         > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email
>         accessibility into
>         > one UI.
>         From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
>         > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in
>         that incoming
>         > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a
>         category
>         > called "Qualified CRM emails".
>         >
>         > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin
>         tab 
>         > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another
>         is a
>         > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed
>         into the
>         > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the
>         best usable 
>         > UI based on your views.
>         >
>         > - Saint
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>         >
>         >------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         >
>         >_______________________________________________
>         >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
>         scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your
>         hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
>         Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>         >
>         
>         
>         --
>         Josh Lee
>         Software Engineer
>         Zertis Technologies, LLC
>         205.422.5279
>         jlee at zertis.net 
>         
>         
>         
>         _______________________________________________
>         This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
>         scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your
>         hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
>         Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>         
>         
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From larenas at internext.com.mx  Thu Apr  6 11:03:50 2006
From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:03:50 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Some body can send me a how-to integrate
	webmail on vtiger
Message-ID: <44352DD6.5080207@internext.com.mx>

Please, l'd like know how i can integrate webmail on crm.


From libregeek at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 02:24:48 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:54:48 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
	<1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <2315046d0604062324j7407b608m5068d79c3b6840b4@mail.gmail.com>

Saint,
  I do agree with Sergio's suggestion. I would like to use IMAP and
use the same folder structure in the server. In the case of UI, I
would like to use the second one, because it's less cluttered.

regards
Manilal



From richie at vtiger.com  Fri Apr  7 02:59:35 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie at vtiger.com)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:59:35 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Security Document
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From pigeonflight at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 09:38:54 2006
From: pigeonflight at gmail.com (david bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:38:54 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
Message-ID: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>

I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan to
dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2 years. I
would like to accomplish the following:


   - be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
   based on type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
   use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig
   to be able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to
   authorize this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send
   message to hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since
   a normal customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
    - master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and
   required completion time
   use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
   them outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
   overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
   - ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
   use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
   how many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
   resolved based on predetermined completion times
   - call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
   number of calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
   - talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
   additional customer data stored on a different server and then store that
   data locally in the vTiger database.
   use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
   an external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
   with the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased
   and the time of purchase and failed purchases)

I'm especially interested in how much of this can already be accomplished in
vTiger and whether the balance can realistically be accomplished in 5
dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer hours and lots of posts to the mailing
list/discussion boards etc..)
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From david.bain at alteroo.com  Fri Apr  7 11:49:43 2006
From: david.bain at alteroo.com (David Bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:49:43 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha
Message-ID: <f433ff170604070849y59485a1fw1457fb72ab8c576d@mail.gmail.com>

for a new role out of vtiger (translation) in the next 2 weeks, should we be
considering 4.x or 5 alpha release.
What are the pros and cons?
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 14:32:02 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:32:02 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)

just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
can...

/sak

On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan to
> dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2 years. I
> would like to accomplish the following:
>
>
>
> be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager based on
> type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
>  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to be
> able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message to
> hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a normal
> customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
>
> master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> completion time
>  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows them
> outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
>
> ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
>  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see how
> many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> resolved based on predetermined completion times
>
> call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the number of
> calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> additional customer data stored on a different server and then store that
> data locally in the vTiger database.
>  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on an
> external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself with
> the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the time
> of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much of
> this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer hours
> and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>



From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 14:34:27 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:34:27 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] mike ?
Message-ID: <49216030604071134l4cc50173ja086c0cba39d0281@mail.gmail.com>

what happened to mike fedyk ?
it seems like he dissapeared...

/sak



From david.bain at alteroo.com  Fri Apr  7 14:52:42 2006
From: david.bain at alteroo.com (David Bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:52:42 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>

Is that a general comment about SOAP or is it related to php and SOAP? Bear
in mind that it would be vtiger acting as a SOAP client. The provider of the
webservice is running a .net platform, I'm not well informed about how
easily they could roll out a REST based solution.

How much of the stuff is already there in vtiger?
If 5 days (40 hours) is too little.
What is a more realistic estimate?

On 4/7/06, Sergio A. Kessler <sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)
>
> just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
> will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
> can...
>
> /sak
>
> On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan
> to
> > dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> > experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2
> years. I
> > would like to accomplish the following:
> >
> >
> >
> > be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
> based on
> > type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
> >  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to
> be
> > able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> > this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message
> to
> > hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a
> normal
> > customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
> >
> > master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> > completion time
> >  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
> them
> > outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> > overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
> >
> > ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
> >  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
> how
> > many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> > resolved based on predetermined completion times
> >
> > call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
> number of
> > calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> > talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> > additional customer data stored on a different server and then store
> that
> > data locally in the vTiger database.
> >  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
> an
> > external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
> with
> > the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the
> time
> > of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much
> of
> > this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> > realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer
> hours
> > and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
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From werk at r2g.nl  Fri Apr  7 15:21:43 2006
From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 21:21:43 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604070849y59485a1fw1457fb72ab8c576d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEFLCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>

David,

Why are you asking this? As programmer you should also know de answer as I'm
only a heavy user: the choice between an alpha and stable version for
translation?
Or are you considering the change of hard coded items to strings used for
multiple languages?

Regards, Remco


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  Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens David Bain
  Verzonden: vrijdag 7 april 2006 17:50
  Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
  Onderwerp: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha


  for a new role out of vtiger (translation) in the next 2 weeks, should we
be considering 4.x or 5 alpha release.
  What are the pros and cons?

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 16:26:54 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:26:54 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
	<f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604071326l6c0f4a49q4d1705c9232ef85e@mail.gmail.com>

a general comment about SOAP (I couldn't resist).

REST is orders of magnitude more simple (debugging is trivial), and
you only need a xml parser and support for http calls, and I bet that
.net has that.

/sak

On 4/7/06, David Bain <david.bain at alteroo.com> wrote:
> Is that a general comment about SOAP or is it related to php and SOAP? Bear
> in mind that it would be vtiger acting as a SOAP client. The provider of the
> webservice is running a .net platform, I'm not well informed about how
> easily they could roll out a REST based solution.
>
>  How much of the stuff is already there in vtiger?
>  If 5 days (40 hours) is too little.
>  What is a more realistic estimate?
>
>
> On 4/7/06, Sergio A. Kessler <sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)
> >
> > just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
> > will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
> > can...
> >
> > /sak
> >
> > On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan
> to
> > > dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> > > experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2
> years. I
> > > would like to accomplish the following:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
> based on
> > > type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
> > >  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to
> be
> > > able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> > > this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message
> to
> > > hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a
> normal
> > > customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
> > >
> > > master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> > > completion time
> > >  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
> them
> > > outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> > > overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
> > >
> > > ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
> > >  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
> how
> > > many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> > > resolved based on predetermined completion times
> > >
> > > call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
> number of
> > > calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> > > talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> > > additional customer data stored on a different server and then store
> that
> > > data locally in the vTiger database.
> > >  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
> an
> > > external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
> with
> > > the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the
> time
> > > of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much
> of
> > > this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> > > realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer
> hours
> > > and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
> > >
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From brian at pr2k.com  Fri Apr  7 16:22:19 2006
From: brian at pr2k.com (Brian Laughlin)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:22:19 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers]  mike ?
Message-ID: <27CABE0A5EFD714EA5B2F9B47EE5CB855BC4F9@svawmc1.awnow.local>

 

what happened to mike fedyk ?
it seems like he dissapeared...

/sak

I IM him not too long ago.  He's dealing with a few things and said that
he should be in the swing of things shortly.

/BrianLaughlin



From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Sun Apr  9 23:31:38 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 23:31:38 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration Tools
Message-ID: <994473020604092031x3f94f99ev2b40de2ce24d4721@mail.gmail.com>

I know this was discussed before, but is anyone seeing all the requests to
migrate from Sugar to vTiger?   Is there a tool that works with their latest
version?

Jamie
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From richie at vtiger.com  Mon Apr 10 00:17:29 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie at vtiger.com)
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:17:29 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
Message-ID: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>

Hi!

Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been included.
The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.

Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it admirably.
I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we had earlier.
Bravo Michel!

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Mon Apr 10 03:24:53 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:24:53 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Font support in Image Graph
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi all,

 

We are able to supply true type fonts thru Image Graph bundle.

Does anybody have some knowledge on font copyrights?

Is there a site where to find this kind of info?

Are Linux ttf files the same than windows?

 

Michel

 

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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr 10 05:54:50 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:54:50 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Font support in Image Graph
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <443A2B6A.9000409@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Michel,
i think you can use bitstream vera fonts, the ttf files are the same for 
linux & windows.
The copyright allow to modify and redistribute.
You can find the copyright here : http://www.gnome.org/fonts/
Bitstream vera fonts are bundled with gnome, kde, openoffice... and lot 
of others freesoftware.
Thanks for your work on graph.
A?ssa.

Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit :

> Hi all,
>
>  
>
> We are able to supply true type fonts thru Image Graph bundle.
>
> Does anybody have some knowledge on font copyrights?
>
> Is there a site where to find this kind of info?
>
> Are Linux ttf files the same than windows?
>
>  
>
> Michel
>
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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From libregeek at gmail.com  Mon Apr 10 06:53:54 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:23:54 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for vtiger-5
Message-ID: <2315046d0604100353h6a0b7a4by98866e36cf944af5@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,
   I'm not sure where to post the patches for vtiger5. Should I use
the Code Contributions to vtiger-5?
However I have submitted some simple patches to the Announcement
forum. The link to the forum is
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23176#23176

I have only very little experience in hacking vtiger. I think these
patches will be useful for the community.

regards
Manilal



From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr 11 17:26:10 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:26:10 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>

I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation 
with all of you.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr 11 17:32:55 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:32:55 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Develpler guide.
In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <443C2087.60007@zertis.net>

Ah, I forgot to give Mike Crrowe credit on part of that Developer guide.
Some of that was a copy paste off of his blog, sorry Mike.  Your name 
will be in the next version.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 11 23:40:25 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:40:25 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAApvPJDzh/BUutqtxOWCvg8QEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Josh, congratulations! You started a great job.
I will do my part on dashboard guide.

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Josh Lee
> Envoy??: mardi 11 avril 2006 23:26
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
> 
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation
> with all of you.
> 
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net





From dan.means at teamsrs.com  Wed Apr 12 01:08:02 2006
From: dan.means at teamsrs.com (Dan Means)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:08:02 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <443C8B32.3010600@teamsrs.com>

Great job Josh -- I've been scribbling lots of this stuff down moding up 
the sales order modules -- if I can contribute let me know.

I've managed to get a lot of extra fields into the various blocks, 
mostly in the products section (my client has lots of warehouses / 
locations)....

Josh Lee wrote:
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this 
> documentation with all of you.
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 

-- 
Dan Means
Mission Viejo, CA
www.dkmeansonline.com
www.teamsrs.com



From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 11 19:27:13 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:27:13 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>

What application can I use to open the *vTigerCRM Notes.odt*
 file?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/11/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation
> with all of you.
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Wed Apr 12 01:51:16 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:51:16 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
	<677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443C9554.2080303@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Jorge,
use openoffice 2

Jorge Garifuna a ?crit :

> What application can I use to open the *vTigerCRM Notes.odt*
>  file?
>  
> -- 
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com
>
>  
> On 4/11/06, *Josh Lee* <jlee at zertis.net <mailto:jlee at zertis.net>> wrote:
>
>     I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
>     Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this
>     documentation
>     with all of you.
>
>     --
>     Josh Lee
>     Software Engineer
>     Zertis Technologies, LLC
>     205.422.5279
>     jlee at zertis.net <mailto:jlee at zertis.net>
>
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com> email is sponsored by Zoho
>     Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper &
>     palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer
>     online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From richie at vtiger.com  Wed Apr 12 06:18:59 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie at vtiger.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:18:59 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP Optimizer to use?
Message-ID: <10a8d9c6b1c.-5546871847639394966.-7110740342565802342@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

I plan to use a php optimizer along with the product.
Which optimizer do you suggest that we use please?

APC
e-Accelerator
Zend
etc

Please note, it needs to be open source or something that permits us to bundle 
the same.

Richie
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From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Apr 12 07:12:25 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:12:25 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>

nice work josh.

i started similar project on http://vtiger.fosslabs.com wiki.
please add your document on the wiki, that help to do collaborative work to 
achieve developer guide goal.

side notes :
keep in mind that vtiger provide an API documentation using phpDocumentor and 
that our documents could fit nicely beside this documentation.
> As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a
> rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is
> doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form
> similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on
> accomplishing this task.

cheers,

Fathi


From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Apr 12 07:13:51 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:13:51 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>
References: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <200604121313.51946.fboudra@free.fr>

> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been included.
> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>
> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> had earlier. Bravo Michel!

congratulations !!!
thanks michel.


From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Wed Apr 12 08:45:58 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:45:58 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <200604121313.51946.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA37V09tggw02w/ZNLgnIk1wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

You're welcome Fathi

Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
Hi Mike, what do we do?

Michel
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> Envoy??: mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> 
> > Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> included.
> > The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >
> > Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> > admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> > had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> 
> congratulations !!!
> thanks michel.
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From werk at r2g.nl  Wed Apr 12 09:06:16 2006
From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:06:16 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA37V09tggw02w/ZNLgnIk1wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>

Hi Mike,

I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new in
vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.

Regrads,

Remco


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
JACQUEMES
Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced


You're welcome Fathi

Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
Hi Mike, what do we do?

Michel
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> Envoy??: mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
> > Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> included.
> > The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >
> > Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> > admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> > had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>
> congratulations !!!
> thanks michel.
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 09:35:08 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:35:08 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP Optimizer to use?
In-Reply-To: <-293363331911076467@unknownmsgid>
References: <-293363331911076467@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030604120635p53b44badi7df5dd0ee2514c8a@mail.gmail.com>

AFAIK, APC is the only open source one, that is mantained...
(and the APC mantainer is rasmus, the same guy that created php)

/sak

On 4/12/06, richie at vtiger.com <richie at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I plan to use a php optimizer along with the product.
> Which optimizer do you suggest that we use please?
>
> APC
> e-Accelerator
> Zend
> etc
>
> Please note, it needs to be open source or something
> that permits us to bundle
> the same.
>
> Richie
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From don at vtiger.com  Wed Apr 12 10:58:08 2006
From: don at vtiger.com (don at vtiger.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:58:08 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
Message-ID: <10a8e9bfc4f.907995375215913911.-4148391941192291052@@vtiger.com>

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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 11:40:09 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>

Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 11:40:09 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>

Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
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From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 12:17:14 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:17:14 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net> <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <443D280A.40700@zertis.net>

Here is an updated version.

Fathi, I understand how a wiki works, however I don't see an edit link.  
Do I have to be logged in?  If so where do I sign up? 

Side note, if you guys send me whatever notes you have in MSWord, 
OpenOffice or even txt I will do my best to add them into this.

Fathi Boudra wrote:

>nice work josh.
>
>i started similar project on http://vtiger.fosslabs.com wiki.
>please add your document on the wiki, that help to do collaborative work to 
>achieve developer guide goal.
>
>side notes :
>keep in mind that vtiger provide an API documentation using phpDocumentor and 
>that our documents could fit nicely beside this documentation.
>  
>
>>As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a
>>rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is
>>doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form
>>similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on
>>accomplishing this task.
>>    
>>
>
>cheers,
>
>Fathi
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>  
>


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From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 15:19:14 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:19:14 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger CRM Develper Guide.
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>
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	<3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443D52B2.7010505@zertis.net>

Ok, this is getting silly, I am updating this thing way to often, I need 
to put it in svn somewhere.
Fathi could you set this up for me?  Could you create a usename jlee and 
email me a password using your svn repository for this thing?

Here is another updated version.


-- 
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Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Wed Apr 12 15:55:09 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:55:09 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>

Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):

*	
	PHP 5+
*	
	MySQL 5.1+
*	
	Apache 2+ (??)

...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
 
On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
 
Regards,
 
- Joel

________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status



Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
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>

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From jtk at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 12 16:47:37 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:47:37 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.12.20.47.34.148836@yahoo.com>

Joel Rydbeck wrote:
> Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand
> vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I
> realize right now these are requirements):
(...)
> I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been
> some commitment to supporting that down the road.

I think it would be a huge mistake to promote vtigercrm-5.0.0 from alpha
beta status without merging postgresql support similar to that found in
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration.

Postgresql support from the start is a serious requirement. AFAICT, the
decision for a user to deploy vtigercrm on either mysql or postgresql is
one-way and permanent, I don't think there are any migration tools being
offered here to reliably handle a conversion as complex as a fully
populated vtigercrm dataset.

We are keeping the diff on that branch to the minimum required changes for
postgresql support a) to ease merging back to vtigercrm/branches/4.2
immediately after vtigercrm/branches/vtigercrm-4.2.4, and b) to make it
easier for the vtiger dev team to merge the same changes into the trunk
ASAP.

svn diff
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 (it's a long
diff, but consistent in its changes)



From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 16:52:04 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:52:04 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <443D6874.2020402@zertis.net>

I was unaware of PHP 5 requirements, as I am running vtiger5 on php4.

Joel Rydbeck wrote:

>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>
>*	
>	PHP 5+
>*	
>	MySQL 5.1+
>*	
>	Apache 2+ (??)
>
>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
> 
>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
> 
>Regards,
> 
>- Joel
>
>________________________________
>
>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>
>
>
>Don,
>
>That's very informative, thank you.
>
>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
>20-25 working days?
>
>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>
>Thanks
>
>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
>>This document will give an insight on the
>>features/fixes that we are currently
>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
>>is completed, we will be doing a full
>>scale validation and all
>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
>>of these issues based on severity and
>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>>
>>Thanks & Regards,
>>Don
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 17:36:14 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:36:14 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>

I think postgresql is a must,
I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...

and I'm not talking about features,
I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
from mysql, that's it)...

/sak

On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
> Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>
> *
>         PHP 5+
> *
>         MySQL 5.1+
> *
>         Apache 2+ (??)
>
> ...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
>
> On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
>
> Regards,
>
> - Joel
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
> Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>
>
>
> Don,
>
> That's very informative, thank you.
>
> Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
> understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
> full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
> 20-25 working days?
>
> I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
> would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>
> Thanks
>
> On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> > available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> > This document will give an insight on the
> > features/fixes that we are currently
> > working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> > Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> > is completed, we will be doing a full
> > scale validation and all
> > the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> > of these issues based on severity and
> > then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> > Don
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 17:50:12 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:50:12 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
	<49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>

:-/ Mysql "classic" is the version you get as a developer without paying 
a license.  If you want a license you can get mysql pro. 
http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/

Since vTigerCRM is open source, I believe vtiger falls into the GPL 
License for mysql.   Either way, it is completely free and from my 
understanding we don't need a license.

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>I think postgresql is a must,
>I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...
>
>and I'm not talking about features,
>I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
>from mysql, that's it)...
>
>/sak
>
>On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>>
>>*
>>        PHP 5+
>>*
>>        MySQL 5.1+
>>*
>>        Apache 2+ (??)
>>
>>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
>>
>>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>- Joel
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
>>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
>>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>>
>>
>>
>>Don,
>>
>>That's very informative, thank you.
>>
>>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
>>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
>>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
>>20-25 working days?
>>
>>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
>>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
>>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
>>>This document will give an insight on the
>>>features/fixes that we are currently
>>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
>>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
>>>is completed, we will be doing a full
>>>scale validation and all
>>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
>>>of these issues based on severity and
>>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>>>
>>>Thanks & Regards,
>>>Don
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
>>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>  
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 19:09:07 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:09:07 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
	<49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
	<443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <49216030604121609t28f484edl93bc9f0b5ddb2d61@mail.gmail.com>

yes, vtigerCrm is open source and the team or company behind it does
not need a mysql licence, that is clear.

but what happens when YOU start customizing it and deploy it to customers ?

"MySQL AB always recommends that proprietary (non-Free
Software/non-Open Source) use of MySQL be done with the commercial
non-GPL version of MySQL."

note the word "use"

/sak

On 4/12/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> :-/ Mysql "classic" is the version you get as a developer without paying
> a license.  If you want a license you can get mysql pro.
> http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/
>
> Since vTigerCRM is open source, I believe vtiger falls into the GPL
> License for mysql.   Either way, it is completely free and from my
> understanding we don't need a license.
>
> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
> >I think postgresql is a must,
> >I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...
> >
> >and I'm not talking about features,
> >I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
> >from mysql, that's it)...
> >
> >/sak
> >
> >On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
> >>
> >>*
> >>        PHP 5+
> >>*
> >>        MySQL 5.1+
> >>*
> >>        Apache 2+ (??)
> >>
> >>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
> >>
> >>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>- Joel
> >>
> >>________________________________
> >>
> >>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
> >>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
> >>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Don,
> >>
> >>That's very informative, thank you.
> >>
> >>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
> >>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
> >>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
> >>20-25 working days?
> >>
> >>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
> >>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> >>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> >>>This document will give an insight on the
> >>>features/fixes that we are currently
> >>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> >>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> >>>is completed, we will be doing a full
> >>>scale validation and all
> >>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> >>>of these issues based on severity and
> >>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks & Regards,
> >>>Don
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> >>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> >>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>



From saint at vtiger.com  Fri Apr 14 14:57:04 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:27:04 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
Message-ID: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>

Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and find 
your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.

The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.

The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in colored 
paper visuals.

I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most of 
the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.

Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)

Saint


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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Apr 14 15:25:07 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:25:07 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443FF713.1070902@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi saint,
nice work i like it.
Cool, professionnal, informative.
If you can, use it on 5.0.

A?ssa

Saint a ?crit :

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
>
> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
>
> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
> colored paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most 
> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
>
> Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>



From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 15:41:57 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:41:57 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>

I like it.
Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be 
interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.  
He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put 
in the home page from 4.2.3

Saint wrote:

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
>
> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
>
> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
> colored paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most 
> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
>
> Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 17:21:20 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:21:20 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 5 Alpha.
In-Reply-To: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44401250.6030900@zertis.net>

Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail view.
Simple probelm simple fix.

includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
At the bottom of the file change this:

    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
    {
        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
                $key1=$keys[0];
        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
        {
                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
                    $key2=$keys[0];
        }
        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
$label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
    }
    return $return_data;


To this:

    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
    {
       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
        $key1 = null;
        $key2 = null;
       // Done adding
        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
                $key1=$keys[0];
        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
        {
                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
                    $key2=$keys[0];
        }
        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
$label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
    }
    return $return_data;


Hope this helps!

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 22:36:24 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:36:24 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 4.2.3 Calendar bugfix.
In-Reply-To: <44401250.6030900@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<44401250.6030900@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44405C28.5090009@zertis.net>

4.2.3 Bugfix for calendar

calendar month around line 236

        else
        { // day overlaps by Fredy
            if ( $today == Date("Ymd",$ts)){
                $col = "ol-today";
            }
            else if ($wd == 6) {
                $col = "ol-holiday";
            }
          else if ($wd == 5) {
             $col = "ol-freeday";
                }
            else if ($xm != $m ) {
                $col = "ol-otherday";
            }
            else  {
                $col = "ol-appday";
            }
        }


Josh Lee wrote:

> Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail view.
> Simple probelm simple fix.
>
> includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
> At the bottom of the file change this:
>
>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>    {
>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>                $key1=$keys[0];
>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>        {
>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>        }
>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
> $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>    }
>    return $return_data;
>
>
> To this:
>
>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>    {
>       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
>        $key1 = null;
>        $key2 = null;
>       // Done adding
>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>                $key1=$keys[0];
>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>        {
>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>        }
>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
> $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>    }
>    return $return_data;
>
>
> Hope this helps!
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Fri Apr 14 23:34:13 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 05:34:13 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAqlIhhtjpX0yY09ug5zRMRQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Saint,

 

A good idea, I think, to have a layout disposal made of blocks.

Do you think it will be a heavy work to let the user choose in preferences
what information he wants to see in each block.

We have to have in mind that in some large companies people have different
functions. Sales manager won?t be interested in same information than store
manager, and so on.

 

About graphs, something I am beginning to know well :-), have in mind that
we can imagine something more sophisticated than what we have done till now.
Have a look at this page:

 

http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Saint
Envoy? : vendredi 14 avril 2006 20:57
? : LANCER : Developers List
Objet : [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

 

Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and find your
opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.

The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that weeks
historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.

The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in colored
paper visuals.

I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most of the
CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, modifications
etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement for what we have
currently - the spiral book type UI.

Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)

Saint



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From jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com  Fri Apr 14 16:39:45 2006
From: jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:39:45 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>

I think the interface looks nice.

I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing  link:

http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html

- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as
well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily
change the settings.

- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if
the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she
can easily have that option.


--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com

On 4/14/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I like it.
> Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
> interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.
> He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
> in the home page from 4.2.3
>
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and
> > find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
> >
> > The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> > The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> > The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
> > weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
> >
> > The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> > colored paper visuals.
> >
> > I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
> > of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts,
> > modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> > for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
> >
> > Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
> >
> > Saint
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
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From developer at infointegrated.com  Sat Apr 15 10:20:30 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:20:30 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
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I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to
select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic.
Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double
width, double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger
size. Also, the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or
have it based on screen size), 

I must say this is the best
home page implementation I have seen yet. Great work, Saint!

Brian



I think the interface looks nice.
 
I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if
it could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
wants.
 
- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing 
link:
 
http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html
 
- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable
as well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can
easily change the settings.
 
- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range
so if the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range)
he/she can easily have that option.
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 
 
On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net>
wrote: I
like it.
Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that
you all might be
interested to know that I have a client whom I
installed vtiger5 for. 
He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that
he is paying to have me put
in the home page from 4.2.3

Saint wrote:

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought
better, to give a shot and
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3
matrix idea for home page of vtiger. 
>
> The first row
shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows
Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but
a small graphical representation of that
> weeks historical data
about Leads, Potentials and Contacts. 
>
> The Upcoming
Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> colored
paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned
towards sales. But I believe most
> of the CRM installations
revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc.
Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> for what we
have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know,
even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
 >
>
Saint
>
>
>
>
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>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Planner for FREE instead!  http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>


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Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net 



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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sun Apr 16 17:53:36 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:53:36 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

== BLOAT

/sak



From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Mon Apr 17 00:13:55 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:13:55 +0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>

I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE. This
could have the following scenario:

- Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance (potentials,
closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.

- Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next to
each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.

Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
system a true CRM and MIS.

-----Original Message-----
From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of
Sergio A. Kessler
Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

== BLOAT

/sak

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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Mon Apr 17 04:00:50 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:00:50 +0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604170047s7935bca7ja151290634541449@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c661f5$0bd4e020$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hi Jorge,

 

The first attachment you put was more of a graphical workflow, certainly
something that should be attempted to be achieved with the bounty. However,
what I am referring to on the user customizable dashboard should have the
clear objective of "drag and drop" of whatever functions or information that
is needed AND that is accessible at the current user access level. It will
become something like a personal Content Management System where you can
self-determine the layout of whatever module and component output you need
for your individual needs.

 

  _____  

From: garifuna at gmail.com [mailto:garifuna at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jorge
Garifuna
Sent: 17 April 2006 15:48
To: ncknight at pacific.net.sg; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

 

Sorry, I forgot the attach the visual files for Quick Books Pro 2006 payment
interface.
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 


 

On 4/17/06, Jorge Garifuna <garifuna at gmail.com> wrote: 

I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
across many departments of a company. 

 

I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
"receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
particular invoice.  

 

For example a typical job contract may look like this:

10% due at job start

50% due within 3 days of starting point

40% due at job completion

 

If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
against the invoice:

 

1) $100

2) $500

3) $400

 

After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.


Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM 4.2
for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario explained
above is closely related to the real world.

 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  


 

On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg > wrote: 

I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE. This

could have the following scenario:

- Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance (potentials,
closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day. 

- Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next to
each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.

Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access 
Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
system a true CRM and MIS.

-----Original Message-----
From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com> ] On Behalf Of
Sergio A. Kessler
Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix .. 

On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna < jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com
<mailto:jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> > wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it 
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants. 

== BLOAT

/sak

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From garifuna at gmail.com  Mon Apr 17 03:46:06 2006
From: garifuna at gmail.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:46:06 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
References: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
	<000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
Message-ID: <677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
across many departments of a company.

I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
"receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
particular invoice.

For example a typical job contract may look like this:
10% due at job start
50% due within 3 days of starting point
40% due at job completion

If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
against the invoice:

1) $100
2) $500
3) $400

After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.

Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM
4.2for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario
explained
above is closely related to the real world.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>


On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg> wrote:
>
> I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
> users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE.
> This
> could have the following scenario:
>
> - Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
> leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance
> (potentials,
> closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.
>
> - Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next
> to
> each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
> potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.
>
> Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
> Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
> Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
> system a true CRM and MIS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com ] On Behalf Of
> Sergio A. Kessler
> Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
>
> On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think the interface looks nice.
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
>
> > could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
> wants.
>
> == BLOAT
>
> /sak
>
> _______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From info at GariDigital.com  Mon Apr 17 03:47:37 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:47:37 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
	<000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
	<677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604170047s7935bca7ja151290634541449@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I forgot the attach the visual files for Quick Books Pro 2006 payment
interface.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/17/06, Jorge Garifuna <garifuna at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
> challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
> users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
> to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
> across many departments of a company.
>
> I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
> interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
> "receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
> the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
> is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
> this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
> particular invoice.
>
> For example a typical job contract may look like this:
> 10% due at job start
> 50% due within 3 days of starting point
> 40% due at job completion
>
> If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
> against the invoice:
>
> 1) $100
> 2) $500
> 3) $400
>
> After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.
>
> Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM 4.2for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario explained
> above is closely related to the real world.
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>  On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg > wrote:
> >
> > I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what
> > end
> > users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE.
> > This
> > could have the following scenario:
> >
> > - Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
> > leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance
> > (potentials,
> > closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.
> >
> > - Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments
> > next to
> > each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
> > potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.
> >
> > Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
> > Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
> > Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes
> > the
> > system a true CRM and MIS.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com ] On Behalf Of
> > Sergio A. Kessler
> > Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
> > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
> >
> > On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna < jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the interface looks nice.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if
> > it
> > > could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
> > wants.
> >
> > == BLOAT
> >
> > /sak
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
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> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
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>
>
>
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From jg at garinet.com  Sat Apr 15 15:54:12 2006
From: jg at garinet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:54:12 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
	<53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604151254pfc7086gddb0a6f2b9843307@mail.gmail.com>

vTiger CRM is obviously one of the best solutions I've seen out there in its
class. I always recommended as one of my favorite solutions.

I have mentioned it on certain business forums and because people are always
asking for CRM solutions, I wrote a little article about my experience with
the different CRM applications that I've played around with:

http://theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5

For the rest of you guys, feel free to post your replies to that article
showing your support for vTiger CRM, bacause I'm always referring people to
that link and the more support they see about vTiger, the more that will
decide on it.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/15/06, Brian Devendorf <developer at infointegrated.com> wrote:
>
> I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to
> select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic.
> Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double width,
> double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger size. Also,
> the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or have it based on
> screen size),
>
> I must say this is the best home page implementation I have seen yet.
> Great work, Saint!
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>  I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.
>  - An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing link:
>  http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html
>
> - I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as
> well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily
> change the settings.
>  - the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if
> the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she
> can easily have that option.
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>  On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> >
> > I like it.
> > Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
> > interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.
> > He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
> > in the home page from 4.2.3
> >
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and
> > > find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of
> > vtiger.
> > >
> > > The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> > > The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> > > The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
> > > weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
> > >
> > > The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> > > colored paper visuals.
> > >
> > > I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
> > > of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts,
> > > modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> > > for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
> > >
> > > Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
> > >
> > > Saint
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Mon Apr 17 11:03:59 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:03:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
	<443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net><677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com><53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
	<000001c661fb$58d29880$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B73A8@office.nubrek.local>

Folks,
 
I'm on board with Josh's feedback here.  My users just made the transition into 4.2 and while 5.0 offers a lot of great features, I'd like to be able to keep UI differences to a minimum. As great as everyone thinks 5.0 looks, it is complex and intimidating to a newcomer.  I think its great to have this as an option, but I think we also need to hang on to a simple theme/interface that looks more like the Sugar's and Salesforce.com's of the world.
 
The fact that so many people are so tied to the 5.0 look is only a signal that themes really do mean a lot to the end user.  We should make certain that 4.2 users who really liked the theme, can continue to use what they prefer just like so many prefer the 5.0 look.  Personally, I would like a theme that looks a lot closer to Salesforce so that I could compete with them better --keep it more of an apples to apples.
 
Seriously, let's not become the open source project that has an over-bearing, overly complex, overly functional UI.  Let's keep it easy for the end-user who will only touch this for 5 minutes each day --in the end, they're the ones who need CRM the most.
 
- Joel

________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Jorge Garifuna
Sent: Mon 4/17/2006 3:45 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..


vTiger CRM is obviously one of the best solutions I've seen out there in its class. I always recommended as one of my favorite solutions.
 
I have mentioned it on certain business forums and because people are always asking for CRM solutions, I wrote a little article about my experience with the different CRM applications that I've played around with:
 
http://theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5
 
For the rest of you guys, feel free to post your replies to that article showing your support for vTiger CRM, bacause I'm always referring people to that link and the more support they see about vTiger, the more that will decide on it. 
 
-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 

 
On 4/15/06, Brian Devendorf <developer at infointegrated.com> wrote: 

	I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic. Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double width, double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger size. Also, the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or have it based on screen size), 
	
	I must say this is the best home page implementation I have seen yet. Great work, Saint!
	 
	
	Brian
	
	
	
	
	I think the interface looks nice.
	I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.
	- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing link:
	http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html 
	 
	- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily change the settings.
	- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she can easily have that option.

	-- 
	Jorge Garifuna
	Professional Web Developer
	"Your Web Solution Partner"
	Garinet Global Inc.
	http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  
	On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote: 

		I like it.
		Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
		interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for. 
		He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
		in the home page from 4.2.3
		
		Saint wrote:
		
		> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
		> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger. 
		>
		> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
		> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
		> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
		> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts. 
		>
		> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
		> colored paper visuals.
		>
		> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
		> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
		> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
		> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
		>
		> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
		>
		> Saint
		>
		>
		>
		> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
		>
		>------------------------------------------------------------------------
		>
		>_______________________________________________
		>This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
		>
		
		
		--
		Josh Lee
		Software Engineer
		Zertis Technologies, LLC 
		205.422.5279
		jlee at zertis.net 
		
		
		
		_______________________________________________
		This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
		
		
		





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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 17 16:48:54 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:48:54 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
Message-ID: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>

On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.

Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
start working on stuff for the next release.

Allan



From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 05:08:39 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:08:39 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>
References: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>
Message-ID: <4444AC97.3010708@mikefedyk.com>

No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.

Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.

Mike

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new in
> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>
> Regrads,
>
> Remco
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> JACQUEMES
> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
>
> You're welcome Fathi
>
> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>
> Michel
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>>     
>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>       
>> included.
>>     
>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>
>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>       
>> congratulations !!!
>> thanks michel.
>> _______________________________________________
>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>     
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
>
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>
>   


From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 05:24:30 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:24:30 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <4444AC97.3010708@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Mike,

That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
files?

There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> Envoy??: mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> 
> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> 
> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> in
> > vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >
> > Regrads,
> >
> > Remco
> >
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> > JACQUEMES
> > Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> > Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >
> >
> > You're welcome Fathi
> >
> > Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> > Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >>
> >>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>
> >> included.
> >>
> >>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> >>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
> we
> >>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>
> >> congratulations !!!
> >> thanks michel.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> > ----- Scanned for virus and spam
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 05:22:32 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:22:32 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4444AFD8.2050309@mikefedyk.com>

I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.

If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.

Mike

Allan Bush wrote:
> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
>
> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> start working on stuff for the next release.
>
> Allan
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>
>   


From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 05:35:15 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:35:15 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <4444B2D3.7040702@mikefedyk.com>

There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the 
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac 
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>       
>> in
>>     
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>       
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>         
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>     
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> included.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>>           
>> we
>>     
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>         
>> down
>>     
>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>>         
>> enabled,
>>     
>>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>       
>> down
>>     
>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>       
>> enabled,
>>     
>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>
>>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>       
>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>     
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
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>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>>     
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>   


From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 05:41:07 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:41:07 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <4444AFD8.2050309@mikefedyk.com>
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I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> Envoy??: mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
> 
> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
> 
> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Allan Bush wrote:
> > On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> > related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> > 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> > fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
> >
> > Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> > to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> > package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> > start working on stuff for the next release.
> >
> > Allan
> >
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 05:45:51 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:45:51 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
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Yes, any time.

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
> few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
>
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
>>
>> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
>>
>> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Allan Bush wrote:
>>     
>>> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
>>> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
>>> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
>>> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
>>>
>>> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
>>> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
>>> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
>>> start working on stuff for the next release.
>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>       
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From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 18 12:12:25 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:12:25 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
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nice move!

Where can I find the website for Image Graph?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
>
> There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
>
> Mike
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> > files?
> >
> > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> them,
> > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> >>
> >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> >>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >>>
> >>> Regrads,
> >>>
> >>> Remco
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> >>> JACQUEMES
> >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You're welcome Fathi
> >>>
> >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>>
> >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >>
> >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> included.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> what
> >>>>>
> >> we
> >>
> >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> congratulations !!!
> >>>> thanks michel.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
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> >>>>
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> >>>
> >> down
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> >>>
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Apr 18 12:43:09 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:43:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
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Dear Jorge Garifuna,

Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
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----info at garidigital.com wrote ---- 

nice move! Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
 -- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 
 On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> included.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>>
>> we
>>
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>
>> down
>>
>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>>
>> enabled,
>>
>>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>
>> down
>>
>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>
>> enabled,
>>
>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>
>>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
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>>>
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>
>
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From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 18 13:15:25 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:15:25 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
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Gopal,

Thanks for the link.

I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state (
http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download).

- Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
piece of software for organizations?

- Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jorge Garifuna,
>
> Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:
>
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/
>
> Thanks,
> Gopal
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ----info at garidigital.com wrote ----
>
>  nice move!
>
> Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> > latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> >
> > with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be
> > done
> > > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you
> > patch
> > > files?
> > >
> > > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> > them,
> > > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> > >
> > > Michel
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> > vtigercrm-
> > >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> > >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> > >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>
> > >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> > >>
> > >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Mike,
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely
> > new
> > >>>
> > >> in
> > >>
> > >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regrads,
> > >>>
> > >>> Remco
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens
> > Michel
> > >>> JACQUEMES
> > >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> > >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> You're welcome Fathi
> > >>>
> > >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> > >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> > >>>
> > >>> Michel
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>>>
> > >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> > >>
> > >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> > >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> > >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> included.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing
> > it
> > >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> > what
> > >>>>>
> > >> we
> > >>
> > >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> congratulations !!!
> > >>>> thanks michel.
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
> > scribbling
> > >>>>
> > >> down
> > >>
> > >>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > >>>>
> > >> enabled,
> > >>
> > >>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > >>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > >>>
> > >> down
> > >>
> > >>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > >>>
> > >> enabled,
> > >>
> > >>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > >>>
> > >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the
> > AJAX
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> > >>
> > >>>
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> > down
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> > >
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 18:34:42 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:34:42 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 4.2.3 Calendar bugfix.
In-Reply-To: <44405C28.5090009@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
	<443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>	<44401250.6030900@zertis.net>
	<44405C28.5090009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44456982.5070705@mikefedyk.com>

Can you make a unified diff with winmerge and attach it to a ticket with 
a milestone of 4.2.5?

Mike

Josh Lee wrote:
> 4.2.3 Bugfix for calendar
>
> calendar month around line 236
>
>        else
>        { // day overlaps by Fredy
>            if ( $today == Date("Ymd",$ts)){
>                $col = "ol-today";
>            }
>            else if ($wd == 6) {
>                $col = "ol-holiday";
>            }
>          else if ($wd == 5) {
>             $col = "ol-freeday";
>                }
>            else if ($xm != $m ) {
>                $col = "ol-otherday";
>            }
>            else  {
>                $col = "ol-appday";
>            }
>        }
>
>
> Josh Lee wrote:
>
>> Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail 
>> view.
>> Simple probelm simple fix.
>>
>> includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
>> At the bottom of the file change this:
>>
>>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>>    {
>>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>>                $key1=$keys[0];
>>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>>        {
>>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>>        }
>>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 
>> => $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>>    }
>>    return $return_data;
>>
>>
>> To this:
>>
>>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>>    {
>>       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
>>        $key1 = null;
>>        $key2 = null;
>>       // Done adding
>>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>>                $key1=$keys[0];
>>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>>        {
>>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>>        }
>>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 
>> => $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>>    }
>>    return $return_data;
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>>
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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 23:27:12 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:27:12 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <677641040604181015q3e5e1955n338d14c20b114ddc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA+vVFbK0fJUuenLxmtgRvHAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Jorge,

 

You can have a look at that page

 

http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/

 

If you are interested, I have started to put some stuff on vtiger wiki :

 

http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Developing_Charts_using_ImageGraph

 

I don?t have any idea why Image Graph is still at alpha stage. For the tests
I have done, it looks stable.

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Jorge Garifuna
Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 19:15
? : gopals at vtiger.com; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced

 

Gopal,

 

Thanks for the link. 

 

I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state
(http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download). 

 

- Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
piece of software for organizations?

 

- Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 


 

On 4/18/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote: 

Dear Jorge Garifuna,

Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal 
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com <http://gopal.vtiger.com/>  
Skype: sripadag 
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437 





---- info at garidigital.com <mailto:info at garidigital.com>  wrote ---- 

nice move!

 

Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  


 

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com > wrote: 

There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac 
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch 
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>
>> -----Message d'origine----- 
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto: vtigercrm-
<mailto:vtigercrm-> 
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk 
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com> 
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance. 
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES 
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com> 
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14 
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> included. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it 
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>> 
>> we
>>
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>>> This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho
Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>
>> down
>>
>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX 
>>>> 
>> enabled,
>>
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>>>>
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Planner. Still scribbling
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>> down
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>>>
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Still scribbling down
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enabled, 
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>
>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Wed Apr 19 00:08:58 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:08:58 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please stop adding bug reports for v5
	without setting the milestone.
Message-ID: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>

And for that matter, more and better milestones would be a good idea too.

I look at the bug reports by milestone (ticket listing 3) so having a 
bunch with unset milestones for v5 gets in the way.

Mike


From info at GariDigital.com  Wed Apr 19 00:18:07 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:18:07 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA+vVFbK0fJUuenLxmtgRvHAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
References: <677641040604181015q3e5e1955n338d14c20b114ddc@mail.gmail.com>
	<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA+vVFbK0fJUuenLxmtgRvHAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <677641040604182118o709d8d9h9c886c8a8a395451@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for sharing Michael!

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Michel JACQUEMES <m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote:
>
>  Hi Jorge,
>
>
>
> You can have a look at that page
>
>
>
> http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/
>
>
>
> If you are interested, I have started to put some stuff on vtiger wiki :
>
>
>
> http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Developing_Charts_using_ImageGraph
>
>
>
> I don't have any idea why Image Graph is still at alpha stage. For the
> tests I have done, it looks stable.
>
>
>
> Michel
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *De :* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *De la part de* Jorge
> Garifuna
> *Envoy? :* mardi 18 avril 2006 19:15
> *? :* gopals at vtiger.com; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>
> *Objet :* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
>
>
> Gopal,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the link.
>
>
>
> I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state (
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download).
>
>
>
> - Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
> piece of software for organizations?
>
>
>
> - Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, *Gopal* <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jorge Garifuna,
>
> Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:
>
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/
>
> Thanks,
> Gopal
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ---- info at garidigital.com wrote ----
>
> nice move!
>
>
>
> Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, *Mike Fedyk* <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com > wrote:
>
> There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
>
> Mike
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> > files?
> >
> > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> them,
> > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> >>
> >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> >>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >>>
> >>> Regrads,
> >>>
> >>> Remco
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens
> Michel
> >>> JACQUEMES
> >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You're welcome Fathi
> >>>
> >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>>
> >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >>
> >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> included.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>
> >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> what
> >>>>>
> >> we
> >>
> >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> congratulations !!!
> >>>> thanks michel.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >>>>
> >> enabled,
> >>
> >>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >>>
> >> enabled,
> >>
> >>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>
> >>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>
> >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> down
> >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
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> >
> >
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From allan.bush at gmail.com  Wed Apr 19 02:36:14 2006
From: allan.bush at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:36:14 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please stop adding bug reports for v5
	without setting the milestone.
In-Reply-To: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>
References: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604182336xb6978c9x8fa77ae313697dfc@mail.gmail.com>

I agree.
I wouldn't bother trying to fix all the bug reports right now,
hopefully when this round of QA is finished someone with access to the
trac backend can just fix them all in one go.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> And for that matter, more and better milestones would be a good idea too.
>
> I look at the bug reports by milestone (ticket listing 3) so having a
> bunch with unset milestones for v5 gets in the way.
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Fri Apr 21 03:52:55 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:52:55 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
	<4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>

Good to see you back Mike.

Any word on richie putting rc3 out?
I've created a patch for ticket #86
(http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/86), depending on
what state everything is in we may want to try and slip it in under
the wire.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> Yes, any time.
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
> > few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
> >>
> >> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
> >>
> >> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Allan Bush wrote:
> >>
> >>> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> >>> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> >>> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> >>> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
> >>>
> >>> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> >>> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> >>> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> >>> start working on stuff for the next release.
> >>>
> >>> Allan
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>
> >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >>>
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> >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
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From richie at vtiger.com  Fri Apr 21 04:27:15 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:27:15 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>	<4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
	<3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10abb8f5c06.-9220458501084372140.2763426437080733311@@vtiger.com>

Hi! 
 
I am waiting for mikef's nod. 
mikef, let me know when you want me to put and give 
out the exe/bin for 4.2.4. 
 
Richie




---- Allan Bush&lt;allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Good to see you back Mike.

Any word on richie putting rc3 out?
I've created a patch for ticket #86
(http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/86), depending on
what state everything is in we may want to try and slip it in under
the wire.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk &lt;mfedyk at mikefedyk.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; Yes, any time.
&gt;
&gt; Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
&gt; &gt; I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
&gt; &gt; few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; -----Message d'origine-----
&gt; &gt;&gt; De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
&gt; &gt;&gt; developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
&gt; &gt;&gt; Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
&gt; &gt;&gt; ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
&gt; &gt;&gt; Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Mike
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Allan Bush wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; related to packaging and both have patches ready to go. I agree the
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release? Mike Fedyk seems
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; package the release? I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; start working on stuff for the next release.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Allan
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; down your To-Do's on bits of paper &amp; palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
&gt; &gt;&gt; enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
&gt; &gt;&gt; http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
&gt; &gt;&gt; This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
&gt; &gt;&gt; your To-Do's on bits of paper &amp; palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
&gt; &gt;&gt; personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
&gt; &gt;&gt; http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Fri Apr 21 12:20:42 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:20:42 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SVN commit syntax
Message-ID: <3bec26390604210920y7af6e204m2a8c116dca4aff52@mail.gmail.com>

I'm glad to see more people taking advantage of the trac ticket
system, I find it extremely  useful myself and I'm sure everyone else
will as well.  I just want to point out a couple shortcuts that will
make everyone's life a little easier.

If you included certain key phrases in your SVN commit message any
relevant tickets will be automatically modified.  The ones I find
useful are "Refs #<ticket number>" and "Closes #<ticket number>".  I'm
sure there are more of these but I can't find an documentation on this
(trust me they works, I've done it several times myself).

If your commit message included "Refs #<ticket number>" (ie: Refs
#223) then that ticket will automatically get linked to your checked
in changeset and a comment added matching your commit message.  This
is super useful in tracking the progress on fixing a bug.

If your commit message included "Closes #<ticket number>" then you get
the same effect as using "Refs" plus the added bonus of having the
ticket close itself automatically saving you from having to do it
yourself.

If we could all agree to use this syntax it would greatly increase the
value of the ticket system.



From jtk at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 21 13:12:29 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:12:29 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SVN commit syntax
References: <3bec26390604210920y7af6e204m2a8c116dca4aff52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.21.17.12.28.374020@yahoo.com>

Allan Bush wrote:
> I'm glad to see more people taking advantage of the trac ticket
> system

I concur 100% in thanking the vtiger team for starting to use trac tickets
for their trunk development.

Here is the relevant documentation for the python script that handles this
integration of commit messages and the ticket system.

-----------

It searches commit messages for text in the form of:

  command #1
  command #1, #2
  command #1 & #2
  command #1 and #2
 
You can have more then one command in a message. The following commands
are supported. There is more then one spelling for each command, to make
this as user-friendly as possible. 

 closes, fixes
   The specified issue numbers are closed with the contents of
   this commit message being added to it.

 references, refs, addresses, re 
   The specified issue numbers are left in their current status, but
   the contents of this commit message are added to their notes. 


A fairly complicated example of what you can do is with a commit message
of:

   Changed blah and foo to do this or that. Fixes #10 and #12, and refs
   #12.

This will close #10 and #12, and add a note to #12.


-------------

Also be sure to aprise yourself of the trac syntax for embedding code and
revision references in your checkin messages. Makes browsing the
repository very easy. I used these in changesets such as:

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5114

  refs #62 and #17. merging source:vtigercrm/branches/4.2 r5080 through
  r5113 to source:vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. allanbush
  fixed CreatePDF.php pdf generation bugs

That's a little overboard for routine commits, of course, but explicit
references to logical source and destination are very useful for merges
and other branching actions.

Thanks again to everybody creating all those tickets recently. If we can
get somebody with access to the database backend to update their
milestones (currently set to none), that would be a tremendous release
planning asset. 



From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Sun Apr 23 19:10:17 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:10:17 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
Message-ID: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
the forge is not available for me.

Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?

A?ssa


From fboudra at free.fr  Mon Apr 24 08:25:54 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:25:54 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
In-Reply-To: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>

hi aissa,

> Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
> the forge is not available for me.
>
> Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?

maintenance : box upgrade goes wrong since last update.

i'm working on it...

cheers,

Fathi


From richie at vtiger.com  Mon Apr 24 10:26:18 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:26:18 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
Message-ID: <10acc4b2a57.-3766842912071413281.6608330223419069294@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

The code base is slowly being stabilized and I would expect it to be upto the mark 
by around May 7th or so. 

I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

Thanks,
Richie
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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Mon Apr 24 17:08:37 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:08:37 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <000001c667ab$9e760100$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B73D4@office.nubrek.local>

Richie,
 
In my view it is a must for vTiger 5 to support PostgreSQL.  This is a sensitive topic here, so I'll try to be objective and not start a flame war:

1.	
	MySQL is not opensource, it requires $ and a license to use it commercially --which as someone pointed out earlier, is the main driver for using vTiger in the first place, to make money.
2.	
	MySQL does not own the INNODB transactional table type, Oracle does
3.	
	Oracle, the other database supported (?) is not open source
4.	
	Compliance with PostgreSQL suggests that the codebase is much more tightly aligned with the ANSI SQL2000 standard --which easily leads to support for other Adodb databases
5.	
	PostgresSQL has a strong following on this list and there are many individuals who are ready and willing to contribute.  I would highlight bushwack and jeffk who have performed significant amounts of work in bringing PostgreSQL support to 4.2.4

If we're agressively pursuing opensource components for vTiger, I think we need to ensure that consumers aren't forced into a non-opensource license just to run the application.  If someone wants to run this on a Windows Server XXXX with an Oracle db, I wish them luck.  At the same time, we want folks with Fedora core X, to be able to legitimately run vTiger without shelling out $.

All of this said, I see two main drivers to get PostgreSQL support in vTiger 5 before release.

1.	Added portability and stability by supporting an ANSI SQL 2000-compliant db.
2.	Removed dependence on non-opensource software.

This is my view.

- Joel


________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Richie
Sent: Mon 4/24/2006 9:30 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5


Hello!

The code base is slowly being stabilized and I would expect it to be upto the mark 
by around May 7th or so. 

I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

Thanks,
Richie
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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Mon Apr 24 17:10:33 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:10:33 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
In-Reply-To: <200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <1145913034.5434.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Totally my fault, I upgraded some of the packages in the sarge security
repo and the whole thing died.  Hopefully Fathi can fix it up soon.
Fathi let me know if you need anything from me to help move this along.

My bad.

Matt

On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 14:25 +0200, Fathi Boudra wrote:
> hi aissa,
> 
> > Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
> > the forge is not available for me.
> >
> > Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?
> 
> maintenance : box upgrade goes wrong since last update.
> 
> i'm working on it...
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Fathi
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 



From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 24 17:36:16 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:36:16 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
Message-ID: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>

Good day everyone,

I noticed that a branch was created for the 4.2.4 release, I take this
a a sign that I can start putting stuff into the 4.2 branch for the
4.2.5 release.

The first thing I'd like to do is to merge the 4.2_postgres branch
into the 4.2 branch (ticket #17).  I'd like to leave in the code from
ticket #69 (http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/69)
well doing this as I think the extra debugging information could
benefit from the eyes of a wider release.  If anyone has any comments
on this lets hear it.

jeffk, you seem to know how to juggle the svn branching/merging, feel
free to merge the branches.  If you're busy I'll figure it out and
probably do it later tonight.

Allan



From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 17:44:00 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:44:00 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:36:16 -0700, Allan Bush wrote:
> jeffk, you seem to know how to juggle the svn branching/merging, feel
> free to merge the branches.  If you're busy I'll figure it out and
> probably do it later tonight.

I'll do that right now. I'm doing the mechanical merge, it will need
testing (I have zero php-debugging-fu; I just do a quick install of the
demo dataset and duck ;)

Any bugs found post merge should get trac tickets with the 4.2.5
milestone.




From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 18:36:37 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:36:37 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>

OK, the branches have been merged.

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5306

Per the longwinded changeset log, there will surely be breakage and some
rapid integration work needed to support both postgresql and mysql for the
end user.

When this is done, we should delete
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration and close tickets #62 and
#17.

Thanks for all the postgresql support. I encourage Richie and his team to
review this changeset and apply relevant portions and lessons to
vtigercrm/trunk ASAP.




From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 24 21:21:41 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:21:41 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604241821v466df53jf1e60cfa7d615f28@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Jeff

I don't really anticipate anything being broken as the 4.2 branch is
nearly the same as the postgres branch now and I tested that with
mysql and postgres installations, but we'll see.

On 4/24/06, Jeff Kowalczyk <jtk at yahoo.com> wrote:
> OK, the branches have been merged.
>
> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5306
>
> Per the longwinded changeset log, there will surely be breakage and some
> rapid integration work needed to support both postgresql and mysql for the
> end user.
>
> When this is done, we should delete
> vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration and close tickets #62 and
> #17.
>
> Thanks for all the postgresql support. I encourage Richie and his team to
> review this changeset and apply relevant portions and lessons to
> vtigercrm/trunk ASAP.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 22:41:28 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:41:28 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>

Richie wrote:
> I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

   There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
   another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.



From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 22:47:36 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:47:36 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>

Richie wrote:
> (...) vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

GA? What's that? ;)

Oh, you must mean the tagged releases with a series of predictable names
of the form vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 through vtigercrm-5.0.0?

The ones that linux packagers will be glad to distributed to millions of
grateful users?

Sorry, Richie, the version naming curmudgeon(s) will coming to the party
once the team gets ready to start calling it beta. We'll bring cake,
though.

;)



From rrg at r2g.nl  Tue Apr 25 05:11:41 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:11:41 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKCEILCBAA.rrg@r2g.nl>

Hi Jeff,

I agree with you, giving more people a choice which db to use at the start
of implementing VtigerCRM highlites the best part of using OpenSource.
Having implemented VtigerCRM at several clients of mine on a online
webserver works fine.
Being able to use a different db backend for integration with others apps
would be great.
Just to make it clear I need both databases for this: mysql and postgressql.
If at some point we would be able to use firebird as well, well that will be
the day for me :-)

Regards,

Remco Gerbrands




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Verzonden: dinsdag 25 april 2006 4:41
Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5


Richie wrote:
> I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

   There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
   another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.

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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Tue Apr 25 17:44:41 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:44:41 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
Message-ID: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
many of us aren't watching the forums.
Let me know what you think.
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541

Matt



From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Apr 25 23:06:51 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:06:51 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <10ad429d1dc.7191252965695616562.7859674740524310394@@vtiger.com>

Dear Matt,

Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass mail. 

Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level. 

Regards,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal 
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com 
Skype: sripadag 
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437 





----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ---- 

I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
many of us aren't watching the forums.
Let me know what you think.
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541

Matt

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 26 14:14:53 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:14:53 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>

matt, WRT mail tracking, how do you track the "opened" state if the
MUA does not download external images (most MUAs todays do that)

I didn't undertand when you say the clear icon is "scanned" ...

regards,
/sergio

On 4/26/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>  Dear Matt,
>
> Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found
> very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I
> exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass
> mail.
>
> Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will
> definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level.
>
> Regards,
> Gopal
>
> S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
>
>
>
>
>
> ----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ----
>
>
>
> I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
> many of us aren't watching the forums.
> Let me know what you think.
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541
>
> Matt
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Wed Apr 26 15:38:36 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:38:36 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
	<49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1146080316.5434.119.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Sergio,
	You're right, the good MUA's don't automatically load images.  In that
case you may not get the initial 'open' action if the user doesn't allow
the images to load.  In quite a few cases you can get around this with
an embedded iframe but I am not a big fan of using that method because
it has so much potential for abuse.  There are also email clients (like
evolution) that will cache the images so they only load once, in that
case you'll never now if the user re-opened the email.  As far as
scanning, when I was reading up on email tracking methods I had run
across a site that mentioned some filtering systems will actually load
the images when the email is scanned.  I haven't run across this yet
myself and it seems a bit counter intuitive if the scanning mechanism
was trying to detect spam :).
	I've also noticed that if you enabled tracking and unsub links in your
email the spam rating will jump at least 1 point with most spam filters
like spamassasin.

	I've sent a campaign out to some of our clients and it had a 100% open
rate which to me means that either many users don't have image loading
turned off, or they use one of those crappier clients that offers you no
protection from tracking.  So really YMMV because of the way different
MUA's handle images, but so far my experience has been that most users
don't bother to use those MUA's or don't bother to enable the tracking
protections.

Matt

On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 15:14 -0300, Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> matt, WRT mail tracking, how do you track the "opened" state if the
> MUA does not download external images (most MUAs todays do that)
> 
> I didn't undertand when you say the clear icon is "scanned" ...
> 
> regards,
> /sergio
> 
> On 4/26/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
> >  Dear Matt,
> >
> > Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found
> > very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I
> > exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass
> > mail.
> >
> > Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will
> > definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gopal
> >
> > S.S.G.Gopal
> > Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> > Skype: sripadag
> > Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ----
> >
> >
> >
> > I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
> > many of us aren't watching the forums.
> > Let me know what you think.
> > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
> > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
> 
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From jg at garinet.com  Thu Apr 27 02:57:40 2006
From: jg at garinet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:57:40 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5. Need
	help
Message-ID: <677641040604262357t1b2b09fk8db5a1dac628a455@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
there is problem on step 3 of 5.

Here is the error I'm getting:

   Step 3 of 5 [image: vtiger CRM]       Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters
specified   *

Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons:

- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
- specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
server from the host*
 *

Kindly check the specified database connection parameters...

*
Here is what I have:
-- vTiger 4.2.3
-- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
-- PHP Version: 4.3.2

I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
script with the same host name, user name and db name.

The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943

Thanks in advanced for your help.


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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Thu Apr 27 06:23:48 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:23:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] About locate map on vtiger 5.
Message-ID: <44509BB4.2050908@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
the new locate map functionnality is cool on vtiger CRM 5.
I think this function can be best, with "Get direction".
By using my company address and customer address, we can have the road 
direction on google maps.

Map + road direction = very cool to move.

Respect,
A?ssa.


From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 09:24:05 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:24:05 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10adb854511.-6759985834055790868.6453244679148152047@@vtiger.com>

Hi! 
 
Why am i starting to hate this guy ? :D! 
 
How to go about handling the Postgres integration into v5 please? 
All suggestions are welcome. 
Allan Bush and Joel , it will be nice to get a response from you. 
 
Richie




---- Jeff Kowalczyk&lt;jtk at yahoo.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Richie wrote:
&gt; (...) vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

GA? What's that? ;)

Oh, you must mean the tagged releases with a series of predictable names
of the form vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 through vtigercrm-5.0.0?

The ones that linux packagers will be glad to distributed to millions of
grateful users?

Sorry, Richie, the version naming curmudgeon(s) will coming to the party
once the team gets ready to start calling it beta. We'll bring cake,
though.

;)

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From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 09:25:30 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:25:30 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10adb869364.-649200440285564960.-7653367893237445779@@vtiger.com>

Hello! 
 
Agreed. We will support Postgres but we need help. 
Here, we are working on the bug-fixes and are totally 
swamped. 
All hands welcome for Postgres support. 
 
Richie




---- Jeff Kowalczyk&lt;jtk at yahoo.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Richie wrote:
&gt; I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
&gt; GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

 There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
 another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql&lt;-&gt;postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.

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From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 09:27:35 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:27:35 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5
Message-ID: <10adb8879c7.-4170929643010971357.7693297806886073293@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

We have not made much progress in v5 with respect to the muli-language support.
We need help. 

Please do suggest approaches for the same as well.

We had been initially working on mikecrowe's contribution but we are not able to get
in touch with him for sometime now so the job is still incomplete.

Richie
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 11:50:33 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:50:33 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Richie,

To support Postgres there are about 3 or 4 things you need to consider
on all the queries made.  If you see my post in the forums
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=2597 I've outlined the
problems that need to be addressed (yes that's for a different version
but the problems will be the same, except for the first problem which
an adodb upgrade solved).

In order for Postgres support to be possible those issues need to be
addressed in the current code AND all developers must continue to
address them in all further code they write.  If I can be assured of
the second point I'll make the required changes once the code base is
somewhat stable and feature complete (I'm thinking between beta1 and
beta2).

Allan

PS fyi how I go about finding and fixing these issues is I tweak
adodb's debugging ala ticket #69 and then install and use vtiger
fixing the database errors as I come across them

On 4/27/06, Richie <richie at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Agreed. We will support Postgres but we need help.
> Here, we are working on the bug-fixes and are totally
> swamped.
> All hands welcome for Postgres support.
>
>
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Jeff Kowalczyk<jtk at yahoo.com> wrote ----
>
>
>  Richie wrote:
> > I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> > GA please.
>
> I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
> someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
> reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
> integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.
>
> But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
> postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:
>
>  There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
>  another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.
>
> Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
> on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
> vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
> months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?
>
> Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
> have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
> preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
> wrong with a converted dataset.
>
> I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
> at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
> needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 27 12:13:15 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:13:15 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
	<3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.27.16.13.14.294948@yahoo.com>

Allan Bush wrote:
> To support Postgres there are about 3 or 4 things you need to consider
> on all the queries made.  If you see my post in the forums
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=2597 I've outlined the problems
> that need to be addressed (yes that's for a different version but the
> problems will be the same, except for the first problem which an adodb
> upgrade solved).

I think it would be useful to have a trac ticket listing those four
requirements, plus any additions or refinements you encountered since your
work with vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration.

The vtiger team can help you help them by adding "refs #(number)" to any
checkins they make in the coming weeks that follow your ticket's
postgresql-readiness advice. Committers will eventually internalize those
guidelines when writing new code. You (Allan) will also have a nice
indicator of how much postgresql prep work has been done at any given
point, and can better decide when to jump in.

I agree that you'll want to have a somewhat slower change-velocity (e.g.
during beta) before giving it a thorough conversion and sign-off as to its
readiness.

IMO adodb API usage that is limited to mysql (or any single backend) is a
bug and fixing it would not be a new feature, so I think it's OK to
fix/add postgresql and other backend support during the beta period.

Disclaimers at install-time that there is no announced support for
migrating from one database backend to another would be wise.



From jg at garidigital.com  Thu Apr 27 12:23:45 2006
From: jg at garidigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:23:45 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5. Need
	help
Message-ID: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,



I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
there is problem on step 3 of 5.



Here is the error I'm getting:


   Step 3 of 5


       Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified



  *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *

*- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
- specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
server from the host*

*Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *

Here is what I have:
-- vTiger 4.2.3

-- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
-- PHP Version: 4.3.2


I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
script with the same host name, user name and db name.



The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out



http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104



http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943



Thanks in advanced for your help.



--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 12:45:29 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:15:29 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will this
	help?
Message-ID: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant 
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do 
you think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience?

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can 
generate an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar 
quotes using the information of that particular quote like account name, 
potential name, address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, 
you cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining 
to that product etc.


regards,
Saint


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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 13:20:00 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:20:00 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5.
	Need help
In-Reply-To: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>

This isn't really the place for user support, you'll have much better luck
in the forms.  Also posting the same thing twice isn't going to win you any
fans.

Your problem is, as stated, vtiger can't connect to your database.  If you
have some technical knowledge the line that's failing is line 50 of
install/3confirmConfig.php you may be able to figure it out from there.  My
first guess is that your mysql installation doesn't support/allow persistent
connections.

On 4/27/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garidigital.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
> but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
> there is problem on step 3 of 5.
>
>
>
> Here is the error I'm getting:
>
>
>    Step 3 of 5
>
>
>
>        Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified
>
>
>
>   *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
> connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *
>
> *- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
> - specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
> server from the host *
>
> *Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *
>
> Here is what I have:
> -- vTiger 4.2.3
>
> -- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
> -- PHP Version: 4.3.2
>
>
> I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
> script with the same host name, user name and db name.
>
>
>
> The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
> was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943
>
>
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
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> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From jg at garidigital.com  Thu Apr 27 13:42:58 2006
From: jg at garidigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:42:58 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5.
	Need help
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
	<3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604271042l4f205b02ybf3755fcc12cc8e8@mail.gmail.com>

Allan

I certainly appreciate your reply. I'm a supporter of vTiger CRM (
http://www.garidigital.com/docs/vtiger/
http://www.theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5 ) and the reason I post here is
because I exhausted my options on the forum. I certainly do not need your
lectures about the appropriate place to place my questions. If I didn't know
better I wouldn't mind your suggestion. I think we can all benefit much
better from this medium by assisting each other so  that vTiger CRM can grow
even more.

Any other assistance would be greatly appreciated.
--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/27/06, Allan Bush <allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This isn't really the place for user support, you'll have much better luck
> in the forms.  Also posting the same thing twice isn't going to win you any
> fans.
>
> Your problem is, as stated, vtiger can't connect to your database.  If you
> have some technical knowledge the line that's failing is line 50 of
> install/3confirmConfig.php you may be able to figure it out from there.  My
> first guess is that your mysql installation doesn't support/allow persistent
> connections.
>
>  On 4/27/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garidigital.com> wrote:
>
> >  Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
> but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
> there is problem on step 3 of 5.
>
>
>
> Here is the error I'm getting:
>
>
>    Step 3 of 5
>
>
>
>        Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified
>
>
>
>   *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
> connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *
>
> *- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
> - specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
> server from the host *
>
> *Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *
>
> Here is what I have:
> -- vTiger 4.2.3
>
> -- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
> -- PHP Version: 4.3.2
>
>
> I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
> script with the same host name, user name and db name.
>
>
>
> The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
> was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943
>
>
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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>
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 27 15:29:29 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:29:29 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
	<3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.27.19.29.28.127076@yahoo.com>

Just to see what an automatic merge would accomplish to bring the 4.2
postgresql support to the trunk, I did a dry run merge. Definitely file
this under 'foolhardy merging that would break the trunk in many ways':

In svn update/merge console output, 'U' indicates clean merge of
changesets, 'C' indicates conflicting lines.

This merge testing is done with a trunk checkout:

 URL: http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/trunk
 Revision: 5506

Changeset 5306 is the changeset that merged the work from
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration to the 4.2 branch.

The following files would apparently get clean automatic merges of the
changeset that adds postgresql support to branches/4.2:

 $ svn merge --dry-run
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5305
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5306 |
 grep 'U  ' 
 U    modules/Reports/SaveReportFolder.php
 U    modules/Reports/Save.php
 U    modules/Reports/Reports.php
 U    modules/Settings/SaveConvertLead.php
 U    modules/Settings/DeleteCustomField.php
 U    modules/Settings/UpdateComboValues.php
 U    modules/Users/User.php
 U    modules/Users/massdelete.php
 U    modules/Users/updateLeadDBStatus.php
 U    modules/Calendar/appointment.pinc
 U    modules/Import/UsersLastImport.php
 U    include/database/PearDatabase.php
 U    schema/DatabaseSchema.xml

This definitely doesn't mean complete support (in these files) for
postgresql, only that the changesets from the branch would cleanly merge
to the trunk without additional effort.

These (many) other files would have conflict lines added to the source.
This would definitely bring PHP syntax breakage, and require immediate
attention to resolve the conflicts before the code would even run again:

 $ svn merge --dry-run
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5305
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5306 |
 grep 'C  '
 C    config.inc.php
 C    modules/Accounts/ListViewTop.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Account.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Popup_picker.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Popup.php
 C    modules/Accounts/ListView.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Quote.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Delete.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Popup.php
 C    modules/Quotes/ListView.php
 C    modules/Potentials/Popup.php
 C    modules/Potentials/ListView.php
 C    modules/Potentials/Opportunity.php
 C    modules/Leads/Popup.php
 C    modules/Leads/Lead.php
 C    modules/Leads/ListView.php
 C    modules/Leads/LeadConvertToEntities.php
 C    modules/Home/UnifiedSearch.php
 C    modules/Notes/Delete.php
 C    modules/Notes/ListView.php
 C    modules/Invoice/Invoice.php
 C    modules/Invoice/ListView.php
 C    modules/Reports/ReportRun.php
 C    modules/Reports/PopulateReports.php
 C    modules/HelpDesk/HelpDesk.php
 C    modules/HelpDesk/ListView.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveProfile.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveOrgSharing.php
 C    modules/Users/LoginHistory.php
 C    modules/Users/saveemailtemplate.php
 C    modules/Users/ListView.php
 C    modules/Users/Security.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveRole.php
 C    modules/Products/Popup.php
 C    modules/Products/AddProductsToPriceBook.php
 C    modules/Products/ListView.php
 C    modules/Products/Delete.php
 C    modules/Products/Product.php
 C    modules/Activities/Activity.php
 C    modules/Activities/ListView.php
 C    modules/Activities/RenderRelatedListUI.php
 C    modules/Activities/OpenListView.php
 C    modules/CustomView/Save.php
 C    modules/CustomView/CustomView.php
 C    modules/Faq/ListView.php
 C    modules/uploads/add2db.php
 C    modules/Emails/Email.php
 C    modules/Emails/ListView.php
 C    modules/Contacts/Contact.php
 C    modules/Contacts/Popup.php
 C    modules/Contacts/ListView.php
 C    data/CRMEntity.php
 C    data/SugarBean.php
 C    include/RelatedListView.php
 C    include/PopulateComboValues.php
 C    install/5createTables.inc.php
 C    install/4createConfigFile.php
 C    install/1checkSystem.php
 C    install/2setConfig.php
 C    install/populateSeedData.php
 C    install/3confirmConfig.php
 C    adodb/adodb.inc.php
 C    adodb/adodb-lib.inc.php
 C    adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php

There are a few skipped files, due to move, rename or removal in trunk.

Again, merging and subsequently resolving these many conflicts would by no
means imply completed postgresql support for the trunk.

However, any approach that brings the trunk and maintained branches closer
together would be a positive thing.

Once vtigercrm-5.0.0 is in production, certainly people will want to
back-port selected features, and forward-port bug fixes during the long
lifecycle of the vtigercrm-4.2.x series. Minimizing diffs between
branches always makes that process easier.

Just FYI. I don't think this merge (except for the 'U' files) would do
any good at this point. Allan can probably move through the trunk codebase
quicker with his method.


Note: svn revert doesn't undo conflict messages AFAICT. If you try this
merge without the --dry-run option, be prepared to check out a fresh trunk
working copy after you are done examining the results.



From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Thu Apr 27 23:14:14 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:14:14 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
	this	help?
In-Reply-To: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAn3Ohn2d+IU+m4J2aYwsDTQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Saint,

 

It could be a useful feature, especially knowing that user can have an
action on an object without leaving the context of this object.

It will be more useful if you do the same thing on a listview. SAP has
introduced that naming it ?drag & activate?. Suppose you are on a customer
listview, you drag a customer line over  invoice menu line and you get
invoices listview for this customer. This can be extended almost everywhere.

 

May be I am wrong, but I think also that it is not very difficult to
implement because it can be a general template.

 

Another idea is that with such feature we are not very far from workflow
management.

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Saint
Envoy? : jeudi 27 avril 2006 18:45
? : LANCER : Developers List
Objet : [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will this
help?

 

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do you
think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience? 

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can generate
an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar quotes using
the information of that particular quote like account name, potential name,
address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, you
cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining to that
product etc. 


regards,
Saint




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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Sat Apr 29 04:18:40 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:18:40 +0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5
In-Reply-To: <10adb8879c7.-4170929643010971357.7693297806886073293@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <001001c66b65$8da86490$6364a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hello Richie,

 

I am not sure about the approach taken, but would it happen to be based on
language files? If so, publishing the language file template would be a
start for volunteers to begin localization work?

 

  _____  

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of
Richie
Sent: 27 April 2006 20:28
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5

 

Hello!

We have not made much progress in v5 with respect to the muli-language
support.
We need help. 

Please do suggest approaches for the same as well.

We had been initially working on mikecrowe's contribution but we are not
able to get
in touch with him for sometime now so the job is still incomplete.

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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Sat Apr 29 04:18:40 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:18:40 +0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
	thishelp?
In-Reply-To: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <001801c66b65$97492520$6364a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hello team,

 

I would like to add my observation on this "Detailed View".

 

Before this is rolled out "all out", I believe the more important thing is
that this would be one of the beginning steps of Sales Automation, this
example would aptly be the "order progress". I would see this screen being
particularly useful for Account Executives and Field Sales:

 

*	Able to check on previous orders from this client; if a "quick
notes" section that can list out some user configurable details such as
"Last order date", "Last order size", "Any outstanding cases", etc on the
right column just above the "Actions" would be a great assistance. 
*	Able to pull data seamlessly from all modules (ie. Price book, terms
and conditions from existing options) without needing to "right-click and
open" other tabs.

 

An enhanced version for management purposes would be to allow all detailed
views to open up as below, including those that are "done" so as to do
checking. Versioning for any adjustments and auto-numbering (with reference
on who adjusted what) would be important also in this screen.

 

Finally I certainly do hope that this would set the fundamental workflow
system in place for the workflow module!

 

  _____  

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Saint
Sent: 27 April 2006 23:45
To: LANCER : Developers List
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
thishelp?

 

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do you
think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience? 

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can generate
an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar quotes using
the information of that particular quote like account name, potential name,
address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, you
cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining to that
product etc. 


regards,
Saint



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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr  3 07:15:46 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:15:46 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <10a507fa4a9.3228964008498662867.8913703528505651198@@vtiger.com>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>	<49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
	<10a507fa4a9.3228964008498662867.8913703528505651198@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443103E2.9090300@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi,
because i have often discussions with Richie, i can tell : the vtiger 
team is really open and listen users. If you really test vtiger 5, you 
can see the alpha version as less bug than 4.2.3.
An exemple on vtiger crm 4.x, if you have a lead with description 
contain " or ', when convert, you loose the data (you don't loose 
really, but the lead is marked as deleted, and no account created), it's 
now correct, and vtiger crm is still in alpha. I have a lot of other 
exemple, if you create a customview, with custom field, you obtain an 
sql error, in 5 alpha, that work.

No free critics, like we say in france, easy to critic, difficult to do.
Telling vtiger crm is not 100% translatable is honest, all can see that 
and know that, telling vtiger team do not follow the community is not 
justice.

Sak, Juao, Adlibweb, we can joint Kleo efforts 
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5773.

To Saint, have look to the screenshot, some layers are missplaced 
(settings1.gif), and require mouse action to be see. On the 
settings2.gif, can you increase the layer size ?
The fader effect in "my account" is really cool.

To Richie, i have a problem with company info, if i use ', nothing is 
saved, my search on files SaveCompany.php and add2db.php give nothing.
I can spend a part of my nights and week-end to "unharcode" v5 during 
beta phases, please explain the difference between {$MOD.STRINGS} and 
{CMOD.STRINGS}.
Thanks,
A?ssa
 

Richie a ?crit :

> That, is not the exact fact.
> We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues 
> at our end. Once we resolve those,
> we will have it integrated into the product.
>
> /sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time.
> internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we 
> have been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see 
> for everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. 
> Every contribution is important to us and we try hard to
> do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to 
> integrate all of them quickly.
> MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have
> worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the 
> issues. We still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon 
> with his help.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ----
>
>     once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using
>     gettext,
>     is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(
>
>     /sak
>
>     On 3/31/06, adlibweb <info at adlibweb.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > ----- Original Message -----
>     > From: Joao Oliveira
>     > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>     > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
>     > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for
>     other lang
>     >
>     > Hello all,
>     >
>     > I totally agree with you A?ssa.
>     > I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries)
>     vtiger will
>     > loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>     >
>     > If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good
>     time to review
>     > all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>     >
>     > Best Regards
>     > Jo?o Oliveira.
>     >
>     >
>     > On 3/31/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
>     > > Hi team,
>     > > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think
>     about other
>     > > lang for release.
>     > >
>     > > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
>     > english.
>     > >
>     > > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link
>     too, so the
>     > > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
>     > >
>     > > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for
>     translaters.
>     > >
>     > > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
>     > >
>     > > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english
>     date format
>     > > here, in some others country we use different format (for
>     france, it's
>     > > Day month year).
>     > >
>     > > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call,
>     Meeting... Alway
>     > > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded
>     string as
>     > > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of
>     expectations on
>     > > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is
>     on beta
>     > > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after
>     feedback i open
>     > > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial
>     papers, and
>     > > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
>     > >
>     > > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
>     > > A?ssa
>     > >
>     > > .
>     > >
>     > >
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr  3 07:23:56 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:23:56 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] To the vtiger 4.2.4 mainteneers
Message-ID: <443105CC.8070807@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
in 4.x branches (the 5.x branches work correctly), when we create a 
customview with customfields, we obtain an peardatabase error this is a 
beginning of fix posted by raccoon on french forum :

on utils.php search for :
function getListQuery($module,$where='')

replace the query :
$query = "select crmentity.*, quotes.*, quotesbillads.*, 
quotesshipads.*,potential.potentialname,account.accountname from quotes 
inner join crmentity on crmentity.crmid=quotes.quoteid inner join 
quotesbillads on quotes.quoteid=quotesbillads.quotebilladdressid inner 
join quotesshipads on quotes.quoteid=quotesshipads.quoteshipaddressid 
left outer join account on account.accountid=quotes.accountid left outer 
join potential on potential.potentialid=quotes.potentialid where 
crmentity.deleted=0".$where;

by this one :
( left join quotescf on quotes.quoteid = quotescf.quoteid added for 
module quotes)

$query = "select crmentity.*, quotes.*, quotesbillads.*, 
quotesshipads.*,potential.potentialname,account.accountname from quotes 
inner join crmentity on crmentity.crmid=quotes.quoteid inner join 
quotesbillads on quotes.quoteid=quotesbillads.quotebilladdressid inner 
join quotesshipads on quotes.quoteid=quotesshipads.quoteshipaddressid 
left outer join account on account.accountid=quotes.accountid left outer 
join potential on potential.potentialid=quotes.potentialid left join 
quotescf on quotes.quoteid = quotescf.quoteid where crmentity.deleted=0 
".$where;


in v5, you can find the query in /includes/utils/ListViewUtils.php.
Thanks


From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Tue Apr  4 02:02:24 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 23:02:24 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed
In-Reply-To: <44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.03.21.18.48.23.560464@yahoo.com>
	<44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone out there testing this?

I've run all my tests and don't see any other problems with postgres
and I've given it a quick run through with mysql (again without
problems).

I'm sure there are still a few issues which could be found with more
eyes, but I'd say the changes are ready to be merged back into the
trunk as soon as 4.2.4 is created (any eta on this?).

It may be beneficial to leave the adodb debugging information in (see
ticket #69) until we get closer to the next release (4.2.5) as I find
it to be a huge help in tracking down (database) problems.

On 3/21/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
> > Allan Bush wrote:
> >
> >> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the
> >> installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent,
> >> now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs.
> >>
> >
> > Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an
> > install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't
> > noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful
> > contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger.
> >
> > I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in
> > postgresql).
> Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance.
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Tue Apr  4 07:02:08 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:02:08 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com>	<pan.2006.03.21.18.48.23.560464@yahoo.com>	<44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
	<3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44325230.4000603@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi allan,
i'm testing with postgre 8.1.
for the moment, i have only (lots) errors messages during install, but 
all is working during use, table are correctly created...
I continue the test.
Cheer,
A?ssa
Allan Bush a ?crit :

>Is anyone out there testing this?
>
>I've run all my tests and don't see any other problems with postgres
>and I've given it a quick run through with mysql (again without
>problems).
>
>I'm sure there are still a few issues which could be found with more
>eyes, but I'd say the changes are ready to be merged back into the
>trunk as soon as 4.2.4 is created (any eta on this?).
>
>It may be beneficial to leave the adodb debugging information in (see
>ticket #69) until we get closer to the next release (4.2.5) as I find
>it to be a huge help in tracking down (database) problems.
>
>On 3/21/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Allan Bush wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the
>>>>installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent,
>>>>now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an
>>>install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't
>>>noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful
>>>contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger.
>>>
>>>I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in
>>>postgresql).
>>>      
>>>
>>Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance.
>>
>>Mike
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>    
>>
>
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>  
>



From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr  4 21:50:48 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:50:48 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
Message-ID: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>

Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?

What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?

Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean 
on the field table?

mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
+--------------------------------------------------+
| typeofdata                                       |
+--------------------------------------------------+
| V~M                                              |
| V~O                                              |
| I~O                                              |
| E~O                                              |
| C~O                                              |
| T~O                                              |
| D~O                                              |
| D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
| N~O                                              |
| D~M                                              |
| D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
| D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
| DT~M~time_start                                  |
| D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
| O~O                                              |
| T~M                                              |
| I~M                                              |
+--------------------------------------------------+
This just confuses the hell out of me.


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Wed Apr  5 00:30:30 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:30:30 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
In-Reply-To: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA6FaibYlvB0uuS3YI5vyrpQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Josh,

I have not the answer and I asked for explanation 2 month ago. I don't think
there is any, it is more probably some remaining thing from sugarcrm.

I worked a bit on that when migrating to mssql and found that it has to be
combined with uitype field:

 ("D","I","N")  are numeric, ("C","E","O") are not,
 "V" is numeric if uitype in (5,50,52,53,56,57)
 exceptions : tablename="contactdetails" columname="reportsto" uitype=57 ?
 "T" is numeric if uitype = 70

Not sure it helps, isn't it?

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Josh Lee
> Envoy??: mercredi 5 avril 2006 03:51
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com; vtigercrm-
> contributors at lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc?: Jeremy Lowery
> Objet?: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
> 
> Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?
> 
> What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?
> 
> Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean
> on the field table?
> 
> mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | typeofdata                                       |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | V~M                                              |
> | V~O                                              |
> | I~O                                              |
> | E~O                                              |
> | C~O                                              |
> | T~O                                              |
> | D~O                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
> | N~O                                              |
> | D~M                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
> | DT~M~time_start                                  |
> | D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
> | O~O                                              |
> | T~M                                              |
> | I~M                                              |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> This just confuses the hell out of me.
> 
> 
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net





From nolan at peaceworks.ca  Wed Apr  5 04:09:22 2006
From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:09:22 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
In-Reply-To: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
References: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44337B32.7050202@peaceworks.ca>

"O" / "M" seems to mean Optional vs. Mandatory

(M means a required field, and gets the little red star)

I haven't investigated the V/E/I/C/T stuff too much, yet...when creating 
my own fields, I've just mimicked something existing that's similar to 
what I want...

peace,
Nokes


Josh Lee wrote:
> Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?
> 
> What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?
> 
> Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean 
> on the field table?
> 
> mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | typeofdata                                       |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | V~M                                              |
> | V~O                                              |
> | I~O                                              |
> | E~O                                              |
> | C~O                                              |
> | T~O                                              |
> | D~O                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
> | N~O                                              |
> | D~M                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
> | DT~M~time_start                                  |
> | D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
> | O~O                                              |
> | T~M                                              |
> | I~M                                              |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> This just confuses the hell out of me.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Apr  6 09:33:22 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:03:22 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
Message-ID: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>

Guys,

Need your quick help.

We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into one 
UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send mails 
using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming list, 
pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category called 
"Qualified CRM emails".

I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a single 
tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the Inbox tree. 
Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable UI based on 
your views.

- Saint


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From jlee at zertis.net  Thu Apr  6 10:10:42 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:10:42 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>

I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I 
wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail 
for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
Saint wrote:

> Guys,
>
> Need your quick help.
>
> We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into 
> one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send 
> mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming 
> list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category 
> called "Qualified CRM emails".
>
> I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
> version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a 
> single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the 
> Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable 
> UI based on your views.
>
> - Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 10:42:07 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:42:07 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>

I have to agree with Josh,

I like the second one better.   Tabs can be a good thing, or if over used,
can be a bad thing.    The second one is a cleaner, better flow look.

Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it
don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it.


Jamie


On 4/6/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
> wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
> for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > Need your quick help.
> >
> > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into
> > one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
> > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> > called "Qualified CRM emails".
> >
> > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab
> > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the
> > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable
> > UI based on your views.
> >
> > - Saint
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 10:59:52 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:59:52 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>

saint, I also like the 2nd option,

but why not let do that job to the mail server ?

I mean, you just create a "CRM" folder in the mail store (be it pop3
or imap) and be done with that !

you still have to show all the folders, so this way, you knock two
birds with one stone.


/sak

On 4/6/06, Jamie Jackson <jamieinnh at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have to agree with Josh,
>
> I like the second one better.   Tabs can be a good thing, or if over used,
> can be a bad thing.    The second one is a cleaner, better flow look.
>
> Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it
> don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it.
>
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
> On 4/6/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> > I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
> > wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
> > for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > Need your quick help.
> > >
> > > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into
> > > one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
> > > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> > > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> > > called "Qualified CRM emails".
> > >
> > > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab
> > > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> > > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the
> > > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable
> > > UI based on your views.
> > >
> > > - Saint
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>



From larenas at internext.com.mx  Thu Apr  6 04:39:48 2006
From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:39:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I suggest a change on SaveSalesorder.php
In-Reply-To: <49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
	<44352162.6040504@zertis.net>	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4434D3D4.9050804@internext.com.mx>

foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val)
{
       
        if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname]))
   {
       $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname];
       $match = stristr($fieldname,'id');
     ***** NEW LINEs*****
       if($match != '0' && empty($value))$value = '0';
      elseif($match == '0' && empty($value)) $value = 'null';
          
        
         
        //echo '<BR>';
       //echo $fieldname."         ".$value;
       //echo '<BR>';
       $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value;
   }
       
}




From developer at infointegrated.com  Thu Apr  6 14:44:35 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:44:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>



I also agree about the second one defintely being the preferred layout. I
would still use webmail with POP, though I would also prefer IMAP
support.

Brian


 I
have to agree with Josh,

I like the second one better.   Tabs
can be a good thing, or if over used, can be a bad thing.    The second
one is a cleaner, better flow look.

Also, with the question of
IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it don't or won't use IMAP,
then I wouldn't use it.    


Jamie



On 4/6/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net>
wrote: I like
the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
wouldn't
use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
for
it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
Saint wrote: 

> Guys,
>
> Need your quick
help.
>
> We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and
Email accessibility into
> one UI.
>From a single UI, you can
receive all your POP mails and send
 > mails using SMTP. And if
there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> list, pertaining
to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> called
"Qualified CRM emails".
>
> I have attached two
images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
> version: "All
Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into
the
> Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the
best usable 
> UI based on your views.
>
> -
Saint
>
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------

>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored
by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper &
palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
Planner for FREE instead!  http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>


--
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net 



_______________________________________________
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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Thu Apr  6 15:51:00 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:51:00 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
Message-ID: <1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>

It supports every protocol that's handled by the PHP IMAP functions
which includes POP and IMAP (i havent tested POP yet).

Matt

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:44 -0500, Brian Devendorf wrote:
> I also agree about the second one defintely being the preferred
> layout. I would still use webmail with POP, though I would also prefer
> IMAP support.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> I have to agree with Josh,
> 
> I like the second one better. Tabs can be a good thing, or if over
> used, can be a bad thing. The second one is a cleaner, better flow
> look.
> 
> Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one. if
> it don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it. 
> 
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> On 4/6/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>         I like the second one more, however if it does not support
>         IMAP, I
>         wouldn't use it. I was under the impression that vtiger used
>         squirlmail
>         for it's email backed. If that is true, then it should support
>         IMAP.
>         Saint wrote: 
>         
>         > Guys,
>         >
>         > Need your quick help.
>         >
>         > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email
>         accessibility into
>         > one UI.
>         From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
>         > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in
>         that incoming
>         > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a
>         category
>         > called "Qualified CRM emails".
>         >
>         > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin
>         tab 
>         > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another
>         is a
>         > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed
>         into the
>         > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the
>         best usable 
>         > UI based on your views.
>         >
>         > - Saint
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>         >
>         >------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         >
>         >_______________________________________________
>         >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
>         scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your
>         hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
>         Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>         >
>         
>         
>         --
>         Josh Lee
>         Software Engineer
>         Zertis Technologies, LLC
>         205.422.5279
>         jlee at zertis.net 
>         
>         
>         
>         _______________________________________________
>         This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
>         scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your
>         hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
>         Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>         
>         
> 
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 



From larenas at internext.com.mx  Thu Apr  6 11:03:50 2006
From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:03:50 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Some body can send me a how-to integrate
	webmail on vtiger
Message-ID: <44352DD6.5080207@internext.com.mx>

Please, l'd like know how i can integrate webmail on crm.


From libregeek at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 02:24:48 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:54:48 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
	<1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <2315046d0604062324j7407b608m5068d79c3b6840b4@mail.gmail.com>

Saint,
  I do agree with Sergio's suggestion. I would like to use IMAP and
use the same folder structure in the server. In the case of UI, I
would like to use the second one, because it's less cluttered.

regards
Manilal



From richie at vtiger.com  Fri Apr  7 02:59:35 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie at vtiger.com)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:59:35 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Security Document
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From pigeonflight at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 09:38:54 2006
From: pigeonflight at gmail.com (david bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:38:54 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
Message-ID: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>

I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan to
dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2 years. I
would like to accomplish the following:


   - be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
   based on type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
   use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig
   to be able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to
   authorize this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send
   message to hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since
   a normal customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
    - master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and
   required completion time
   use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
   them outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
   overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
   - ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
   use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
   how many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
   resolved based on predetermined completion times
   - call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
   number of calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
   - talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
   additional customer data stored on a different server and then store that
   data locally in the vTiger database.
   use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
   an external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
   with the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased
   and the time of purchase and failed purchases)

I'm especially interested in how much of this can already be accomplished in
vTiger and whether the balance can realistically be accomplished in 5
dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer hours and lots of posts to the mailing
list/discussion boards etc..)
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From david.bain at alteroo.com  Fri Apr  7 11:49:43 2006
From: david.bain at alteroo.com (David Bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:49:43 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha
Message-ID: <f433ff170604070849y59485a1fw1457fb72ab8c576d@mail.gmail.com>

for a new role out of vtiger (translation) in the next 2 weeks, should we be
considering 4.x or 5 alpha release.
What are the pros and cons?
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 14:32:02 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:32:02 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)

just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
can...

/sak

On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan to
> dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2 years. I
> would like to accomplish the following:
>
>
>
> be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager based on
> type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
>  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to be
> able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message to
> hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a normal
> customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
>
> master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> completion time
>  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows them
> outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
>
> ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
>  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see how
> many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> resolved based on predetermined completion times
>
> call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the number of
> calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> additional customer data stored on a different server and then store that
> data locally in the vTiger database.
>  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on an
> external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself with
> the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the time
> of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much of
> this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer hours
> and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>



From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 14:34:27 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:34:27 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] mike ?
Message-ID: <49216030604071134l4cc50173ja086c0cba39d0281@mail.gmail.com>

what happened to mike fedyk ?
it seems like he dissapeared...

/sak



From david.bain at alteroo.com  Fri Apr  7 14:52:42 2006
From: david.bain at alteroo.com (David Bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:52:42 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>

Is that a general comment about SOAP or is it related to php and SOAP? Bear
in mind that it would be vtiger acting as a SOAP client. The provider of the
webservice is running a .net platform, I'm not well informed about how
easily they could roll out a REST based solution.

How much of the stuff is already there in vtiger?
If 5 days (40 hours) is too little.
What is a more realistic estimate?

On 4/7/06, Sergio A. Kessler <sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)
>
> just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
> will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
> can...
>
> /sak
>
> On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan
> to
> > dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> > experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2
> years. I
> > would like to accomplish the following:
> >
> >
> >
> > be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
> based on
> > type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
> >  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to
> be
> > able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> > this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message
> to
> > hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a
> normal
> > customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
> >
> > master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> > completion time
> >  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
> them
> > outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> > overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
> >
> > ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
> >  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
> how
> > many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> > resolved based on predetermined completion times
> >
> > call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
> number of
> > calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> > talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> > additional customer data stored on a different server and then store
> that
> > data locally in the vTiger database.
> >  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
> an
> > external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
> with
> > the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the
> time
> > of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much
> of
> > this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> > realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer
> hours
> > and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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From werk at r2g.nl  Fri Apr  7 15:21:43 2006
From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 21:21:43 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604070849y59485a1fw1457fb72ab8c576d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEFLCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>

David,

Why are you asking this? As programmer you should also know de answer as I'm
only a heavy user: the choice between an alpha and stable version for
translation?
Or are you considering the change of hard coded items to strings used for
multiple languages?

Regards, Remco


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  Verzonden: vrijdag 7 april 2006 17:50
  Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
  Onderwerp: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha


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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 16:26:54 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:26:54 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
	<f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604071326l6c0f4a49q4d1705c9232ef85e@mail.gmail.com>

a general comment about SOAP (I couldn't resist).

REST is orders of magnitude more simple (debugging is trivial), and
you only need a xml parser and support for http calls, and I bet that
.net has that.

/sak

On 4/7/06, David Bain <david.bain at alteroo.com> wrote:
> Is that a general comment about SOAP or is it related to php and SOAP? Bear
> in mind that it would be vtiger acting as a SOAP client. The provider of the
> webservice is running a .net platform, I'm not well informed about how
> easily they could roll out a REST based solution.
>
>  How much of the stuff is already there in vtiger?
>  If 5 days (40 hours) is too little.
>  What is a more realistic estimate?
>
>
> On 4/7/06, Sergio A. Kessler <sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)
> >
> > just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
> > will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
> > can...
> >
> > /sak
> >
> > On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan
> to
> > > dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> > > experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2
> years. I
> > > would like to accomplish the following:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
> based on
> > > type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
> > >  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to
> be
> > > able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> > > this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message
> to
> > > hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a
> normal
> > > customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
> > >
> > > master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> > > completion time
> > >  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
> them
> > > outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> > > overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
> > >
> > > ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
> > >  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
> how
> > > many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> > > resolved based on predetermined completion times
> > >
> > > call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
> number of
> > > calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> > > talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> > > additional customer data stored on a different server and then store
> that
> > > data locally in the vTiger database.
> > >  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
> an
> > > external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
> with
> > > the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the
> time
> > > of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much
> of
> > > this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> > > realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer
> hours
> > > and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
> > >
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> > >
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From brian at pr2k.com  Fri Apr  7 16:22:19 2006
From: brian at pr2k.com (Brian Laughlin)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:22:19 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers]  mike ?
Message-ID: <27CABE0A5EFD714EA5B2F9B47EE5CB855BC4F9@svawmc1.awnow.local>

 

what happened to mike fedyk ?
it seems like he dissapeared...

/sak

I IM him not too long ago.  He's dealing with a few things and said that
he should be in the swing of things shortly.

/BrianLaughlin



From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Sun Apr  9 23:31:38 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 23:31:38 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration Tools
Message-ID: <994473020604092031x3f94f99ev2b40de2ce24d4721@mail.gmail.com>

I know this was discussed before, but is anyone seeing all the requests to
migrate from Sugar to vTiger?   Is there a tool that works with their latest
version?

Jamie
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From richie at vtiger.com  Mon Apr 10 00:17:29 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie at vtiger.com)
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:17:29 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
Message-ID: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>

Hi!

Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been included.
The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.

Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it admirably.
I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we had earlier.
Bravo Michel!

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Mon Apr 10 03:24:53 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:24:53 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Font support in Image Graph
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi all,

 

We are able to supply true type fonts thru Image Graph bundle.

Does anybody have some knowledge on font copyrights?

Is there a site where to find this kind of info?

Are Linux ttf files the same than windows?

 

Michel

 

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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr 10 05:54:50 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:54:50 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Font support in Image Graph
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
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Message-ID: <443A2B6A.9000409@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Michel,
i think you can use bitstream vera fonts, the ttf files are the same for 
linux & windows.
The copyright allow to modify and redistribute.
You can find the copyright here : http://www.gnome.org/fonts/
Bitstream vera fonts are bundled with gnome, kde, openoffice... and lot 
of others freesoftware.
Thanks for your work on graph.
A?ssa.

Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit :

> Hi all,
>
>  
>
> We are able to supply true type fonts thru Image Graph bundle.
>
> Does anybody have some knowledge on font copyrights?
>
> Is there a site where to find this kind of info?
>
> Are Linux ttf files the same than windows?
>
>  
>
> Michel
>
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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From libregeek at gmail.com  Mon Apr 10 06:53:54 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:23:54 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for vtiger-5
Message-ID: <2315046d0604100353h6a0b7a4by98866e36cf944af5@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,
   I'm not sure where to post the patches for vtiger5. Should I use
the Code Contributions to vtiger-5?
However I have submitted some simple patches to the Announcement
forum. The link to the forum is
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23176#23176

I have only very little experience in hacking vtiger. I think these
patches will be useful for the community.

regards
Manilal



From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr 11 17:26:10 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:26:10 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>

I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation 
with all of you.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr 11 17:32:55 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:32:55 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Develpler guide.
In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <443C2087.60007@zertis.net>

Ah, I forgot to give Mike Crrowe credit on part of that Developer guide.
Some of that was a copy paste off of his blog, sorry Mike.  Your name 
will be in the next version.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 11 23:40:25 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:40:25 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAApvPJDzh/BUutqtxOWCvg8QEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Josh, congratulations! You started a great job.
I will do my part on dashboard guide.

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Josh Lee
> Envoy??: mardi 11 avril 2006 23:26
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
> 
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation
> with all of you.
> 
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net





From dan.means at teamsrs.com  Wed Apr 12 01:08:02 2006
From: dan.means at teamsrs.com (Dan Means)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:08:02 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <443C8B32.3010600@teamsrs.com>

Great job Josh -- I've been scribbling lots of this stuff down moding up 
the sales order modules -- if I can contribute let me know.

I've managed to get a lot of extra fields into the various blocks, 
mostly in the products section (my client has lots of warehouses / 
locations)....

Josh Lee wrote:
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this 
> documentation with all of you.
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 

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Mission Viejo, CA
www.dkmeansonline.com
www.teamsrs.com



From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 11 19:27:13 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:27:13 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>

What application can I use to open the *vTigerCRM Notes.odt*
 file?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/11/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation
> with all of you.
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Wed Apr 12 01:51:16 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:51:16 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
	<677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443C9554.2080303@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Jorge,
use openoffice 2

Jorge Garifuna a ?crit :

> What application can I use to open the *vTigerCRM Notes.odt*
>  file?
>  
> -- 
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com
>
>  
> On 4/11/06, *Josh Lee* <jlee at zertis.net <mailto:jlee at zertis.net>> wrote:
>
>     I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
>     Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this
>     documentation
>     with all of you.
>
>     --
>     Josh Lee
>     Software Engineer
>     Zertis Technologies, LLC
>     205.422.5279
>     jlee at zertis.net <mailto:jlee at zertis.net>
>
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
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>     Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper &
>     palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer
>     online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
>
>
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From richie at vtiger.com  Wed Apr 12 06:18:59 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie at vtiger.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:18:59 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP Optimizer to use?
Message-ID: <10a8d9c6b1c.-5546871847639394966.-7110740342565802342@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

I plan to use a php optimizer along with the product.
Which optimizer do you suggest that we use please?

APC
e-Accelerator
Zend
etc

Please note, it needs to be open source or something that permits us to bundle 
the same.

Richie
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From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Apr 12 07:12:25 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:12:25 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>

nice work josh.

i started similar project on http://vtiger.fosslabs.com wiki.
please add your document on the wiki, that help to do collaborative work to 
achieve developer guide goal.

side notes :
keep in mind that vtiger provide an API documentation using phpDocumentor and 
that our documents could fit nicely beside this documentation.
> As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a
> rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is
> doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form
> similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on
> accomplishing this task.

cheers,

Fathi


From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Apr 12 07:13:51 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:13:51 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>
References: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <200604121313.51946.fboudra@free.fr>

> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been included.
> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>
> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> had earlier. Bravo Michel!

congratulations !!!
thanks michel.


From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Wed Apr 12 08:45:58 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:45:58 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <200604121313.51946.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA37V09tggw02w/ZNLgnIk1wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

You're welcome Fathi

Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
Hi Mike, what do we do?

Michel
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> Envoy??: mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> 
> > Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> included.
> > The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >
> > Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> > admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> > had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> 
> congratulations !!!
> thanks michel.
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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From werk at r2g.nl  Wed Apr 12 09:06:16 2006
From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:06:16 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA37V09tggw02w/ZNLgnIk1wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>

Hi Mike,

I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new in
vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.

Regrads,

Remco


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
JACQUEMES
Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced


You're welcome Fathi

Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
Hi Mike, what do we do?

Michel
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> Envoy??: mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
> > Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> included.
> > The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >
> > Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> > admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> > had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>
> congratulations !!!
> thanks michel.
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 09:35:08 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:35:08 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP Optimizer to use?
In-Reply-To: <-293363331911076467@unknownmsgid>
References: <-293363331911076467@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030604120635p53b44badi7df5dd0ee2514c8a@mail.gmail.com>

AFAIK, APC is the only open source one, that is mantained...
(and the APC mantainer is rasmus, the same guy that created php)

/sak

On 4/12/06, richie at vtiger.com <richie at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I plan to use a php optimizer along with the product.
> Which optimizer do you suggest that we use please?
>
> APC
> e-Accelerator
> Zend
> etc
>
> Please note, it needs to be open source or something
> that permits us to bundle
> the same.
>
> Richie
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From don at vtiger.com  Wed Apr 12 10:58:08 2006
From: don at vtiger.com (don at vtiger.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:58:08 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 11:40:09 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>

Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 11:40:09 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>

Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
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From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 12:17:14 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:17:14 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net> <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <443D280A.40700@zertis.net>

Here is an updated version.

Fathi, I understand how a wiki works, however I don't see an edit link.  
Do I have to be logged in?  If so where do I sign up? 

Side note, if you guys send me whatever notes you have in MSWord, 
OpenOffice or even txt I will do my best to add them into this.

Fathi Boudra wrote:

>nice work josh.
>
>i started similar project on http://vtiger.fosslabs.com wiki.
>please add your document on the wiki, that help to do collaborative work to 
>achieve developer guide goal.
>
>side notes :
>keep in mind that vtiger provide an API documentation using phpDocumentor and 
>that our documents could fit nicely beside this documentation.
>  
>
>>As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a
>>rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is
>>doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form
>>similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on
>>accomplishing this task.
>>    
>>
>
>cheers,
>
>Fathi
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>  
>


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From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 15:19:14 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:19:14 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger CRM Develper Guide.
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443D52B2.7010505@zertis.net>

Ok, this is getting silly, I am updating this thing way to often, I need 
to put it in svn somewhere.
Fathi could you set this up for me?  Could you create a usename jlee and 
email me a password using your svn repository for this thing?

Here is another updated version.


-- 
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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Wed Apr 12 15:55:09 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:55:09 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>

Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):

*	
	PHP 5+
*	
	MySQL 5.1+
*	
	Apache 2+ (??)

...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
 
On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
 
Regards,
 
- Joel

________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status



Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
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> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 12 16:47:37 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:47:37 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.12.20.47.34.148836@yahoo.com>

Joel Rydbeck wrote:
> Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand
> vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I
> realize right now these are requirements):
(...)
> I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been
> some commitment to supporting that down the road.

I think it would be a huge mistake to promote vtigercrm-5.0.0 from alpha
beta status without merging postgresql support similar to that found in
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration.

Postgresql support from the start is a serious requirement. AFAICT, the
decision for a user to deploy vtigercrm on either mysql or postgresql is
one-way and permanent, I don't think there are any migration tools being
offered here to reliably handle a conversion as complex as a fully
populated vtigercrm dataset.

We are keeping the diff on that branch to the minimum required changes for
postgresql support a) to ease merging back to vtigercrm/branches/4.2
immediately after vtigercrm/branches/vtigercrm-4.2.4, and b) to make it
easier for the vtiger dev team to merge the same changes into the trunk
ASAP.

svn diff
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 (it's a long
diff, but consistent in its changes)



From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 16:52:04 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:52:04 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <443D6874.2020402@zertis.net>

I was unaware of PHP 5 requirements, as I am running vtiger5 on php4.

Joel Rydbeck wrote:

>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>
>*	
>	PHP 5+
>*	
>	MySQL 5.1+
>*	
>	Apache 2+ (??)
>
>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
> 
>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
> 
>Regards,
> 
>- Joel
>
>________________________________
>
>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>
>
>
>Don,
>
>That's very informative, thank you.
>
>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
>20-25 working days?
>
>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>
>Thanks
>
>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
>>This document will give an insight on the
>>features/fixes that we are currently
>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
>>is completed, we will be doing a full
>>scale validation and all
>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
>>of these issues based on severity and
>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>>
>>Thanks & Regards,
>>Don
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 17:36:14 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:36:14 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>

I think postgresql is a must,
I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...

and I'm not talking about features,
I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
from mysql, that's it)...

/sak

On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
> Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>
> *
>         PHP 5+
> *
>         MySQL 5.1+
> *
>         Apache 2+ (??)
>
> ...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
>
> On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
>
> Regards,
>
> - Joel
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
> Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>
>
>
> Don,
>
> That's very informative, thank you.
>
> Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
> understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
> full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
> 20-25 working days?
>
> I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
> would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>
> Thanks
>
> On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> > available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> > This document will give an insight on the
> > features/fixes that we are currently
> > working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> > Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> > is completed, we will be doing a full
> > scale validation and all
> > the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> > of these issues based on severity and
> > then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> > Don
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 17:50:12 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:50:12 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
	<49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>

:-/ Mysql "classic" is the version you get as a developer without paying 
a license.  If you want a license you can get mysql pro. 
http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/

Since vTigerCRM is open source, I believe vtiger falls into the GPL 
License for mysql.   Either way, it is completely free and from my 
understanding we don't need a license.

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>I think postgresql is a must,
>I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...
>
>and I'm not talking about features,
>I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
>from mysql, that's it)...
>
>/sak
>
>On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>>
>>*
>>        PHP 5+
>>*
>>        MySQL 5.1+
>>*
>>        Apache 2+ (??)
>>
>>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
>>
>>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>- Joel
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
>>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
>>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>>
>>
>>
>>Don,
>>
>>That's very informative, thank you.
>>
>>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
>>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
>>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
>>20-25 working days?
>>
>>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
>>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
>>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
>>>This document will give an insight on the
>>>features/fixes that we are currently
>>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
>>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
>>>is completed, we will be doing a full
>>>scale validation and all
>>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
>>>of these issues based on severity and
>>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>>>
>>>Thanks & Regards,
>>>Don
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
>>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>  
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 19:09:07 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:09:07 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
	<49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
	<443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <49216030604121609t28f484edl93bc9f0b5ddb2d61@mail.gmail.com>

yes, vtigerCrm is open source and the team or company behind it does
not need a mysql licence, that is clear.

but what happens when YOU start customizing it and deploy it to customers ?

"MySQL AB always recommends that proprietary (non-Free
Software/non-Open Source) use of MySQL be done with the commercial
non-GPL version of MySQL."

note the word "use"

/sak

On 4/12/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> :-/ Mysql "classic" is the version you get as a developer without paying
> a license.  If you want a license you can get mysql pro.
> http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/
>
> Since vTigerCRM is open source, I believe vtiger falls into the GPL
> License for mysql.   Either way, it is completely free and from my
> understanding we don't need a license.
>
> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
> >I think postgresql is a must,
> >I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...
> >
> >and I'm not talking about features,
> >I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
> >from mysql, that's it)...
> >
> >/sak
> >
> >On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
> >>
> >>*
> >>        PHP 5+
> >>*
> >>        MySQL 5.1+
> >>*
> >>        Apache 2+ (??)
> >>
> >>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
> >>
> >>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>- Joel
> >>
> >>________________________________
> >>
> >>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
> >>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
> >>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Don,
> >>
> >>That's very informative, thank you.
> >>
> >>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
> >>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
> >>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
> >>20-25 working days?
> >>
> >>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
> >>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> >>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> >>>This document will give an insight on the
> >>>features/fixes that we are currently
> >>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> >>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> >>>is completed, we will be doing a full
> >>>scale validation and all
> >>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> >>>of these issues based on severity and
> >>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks & Regards,
> >>>Don
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> >>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> >>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>



From saint at vtiger.com  Fri Apr 14 14:57:04 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:27:04 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
Message-ID: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>

Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and find 
your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.

The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.

The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in colored 
paper visuals.

I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most of 
the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.

Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)

Saint


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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Apr 14 15:25:07 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:25:07 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443FF713.1070902@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi saint,
nice work i like it.
Cool, professionnal, informative.
If you can, use it on 5.0.

A?ssa

Saint a ?crit :

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
>
> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
>
> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
> colored paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most 
> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
>
> Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>



From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 15:41:57 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:41:57 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>

I like it.
Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be 
interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.  
He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put 
in the home page from 4.2.3

Saint wrote:

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
>
> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
>
> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
> colored paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most 
> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
>
> Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 17:21:20 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:21:20 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 5 Alpha.
In-Reply-To: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44401250.6030900@zertis.net>

Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail view.
Simple probelm simple fix.

includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
At the bottom of the file change this:

    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
    {
        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
                $key1=$keys[0];
        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
        {
                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
                    $key2=$keys[0];
        }
        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
$label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
    }
    return $return_data;


To this:

    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
    {
       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
        $key1 = null;
        $key2 = null;
       // Done adding
        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
                $key1=$keys[0];
        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
        {
                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
                    $key2=$keys[0];
        }
        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
$label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
    }
    return $return_data;


Hope this helps!

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 22:36:24 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:36:24 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 4.2.3 Calendar bugfix.
In-Reply-To: <44401250.6030900@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<44401250.6030900@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44405C28.5090009@zertis.net>

4.2.3 Bugfix for calendar

calendar month around line 236

        else
        { // day overlaps by Fredy
            if ( $today == Date("Ymd",$ts)){
                $col = "ol-today";
            }
            else if ($wd == 6) {
                $col = "ol-holiday";
            }
          else if ($wd == 5) {
             $col = "ol-freeday";
                }
            else if ($xm != $m ) {
                $col = "ol-otherday";
            }
            else  {
                $col = "ol-appday";
            }
        }


Josh Lee wrote:

> Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail view.
> Simple probelm simple fix.
>
> includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
> At the bottom of the file change this:
>
>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>    {
>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>                $key1=$keys[0];
>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>        {
>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>        }
>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
> $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>    }
>    return $return_data;
>
>
> To this:
>
>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>    {
>       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
>        $key1 = null;
>        $key2 = null;
>       // Done adding
>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>                $key1=$keys[0];
>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>        {
>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>        }
>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
> $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>    }
>    return $return_data;
>
>
> Hope this helps!
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Fri Apr 14 23:34:13 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 05:34:13 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAqlIhhtjpX0yY09ug5zRMRQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Saint,

 

A good idea, I think, to have a layout disposal made of blocks.

Do you think it will be a heavy work to let the user choose in preferences
what information he wants to see in each block.

We have to have in mind that in some large companies people have different
functions. Sales manager won?t be interested in same information than store
manager, and so on.

 

About graphs, something I am beginning to know well :-), have in mind that
we can imagine something more sophisticated than what we have done till now.
Have a look at this page:

 

http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Saint
Envoy? : vendredi 14 avril 2006 20:57
? : LANCER : Developers List
Objet : [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

 

Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and find your
opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.

The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that weeks
historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.

The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in colored
paper visuals.

I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most of the
CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, modifications
etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement for what we have
currently - the spiral book type UI.

Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)

Saint



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From jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com  Fri Apr 14 16:39:45 2006
From: jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:39:45 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>

I think the interface looks nice.

I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing  link:

http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html

- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as
well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily
change the settings.

- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if
the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she
can easily have that option.


--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com

On 4/14/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I like it.
> Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
> interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.
> He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
> in the home page from 4.2.3
>
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and
> > find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
> >
> > The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> > The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> > The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
> > weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
> >
> > The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> > colored paper visuals.
> >
> > I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
> > of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts,
> > modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> > for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
> >
> > Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
> >
> > Saint
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
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From developer at infointegrated.com  Sat Apr 15 10:20:30 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:20:30 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
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I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to
select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic.
Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double
width, double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger
size. Also, the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or
have it based on screen size), 

I must say this is the best
home page implementation I have seen yet. Great work, Saint!

Brian



I think the interface looks nice.
 
I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if
it could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
wants.
 
- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing 
link:
 
http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html
 
- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable
as well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can
easily change the settings.
 
- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range
so if the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range)
he/she can easily have that option.
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 
 
On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net>
wrote: I
like it.
Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that
you all might be
interested to know that I have a client whom I
installed vtiger5 for. 
He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that
he is paying to have me put
in the home page from 4.2.3

Saint wrote:

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought
better, to give a shot and
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3
matrix idea for home page of vtiger. 
>
> The first row
shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows
Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but
a small graphical representation of that
> weeks historical data
about Leads, Potentials and Contacts. 
>
> The Upcoming
Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> colored
paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned
towards sales. But I believe most
> of the CRM installations
revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc.
Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> for what we
have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know,
even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
 >
>
Saint
>
>
>
>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sun Apr 16 17:53:36 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:53:36 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
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References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
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On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

== BLOAT

/sak



From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Mon Apr 17 00:13:55 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:13:55 +0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>

I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE. This
could have the following scenario:

- Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance (potentials,
closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.

- Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next to
each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.

Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
system a true CRM and MIS.

-----Original Message-----
From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of
Sergio A. Kessler
Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

== BLOAT

/sak

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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Mon Apr 17 04:00:50 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:00:50 +0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604170047s7935bca7ja151290634541449@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c661f5$0bd4e020$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hi Jorge,

 

The first attachment you put was more of a graphical workflow, certainly
something that should be attempted to be achieved with the bounty. However,
what I am referring to on the user customizable dashboard should have the
clear objective of "drag and drop" of whatever functions or information that
is needed AND that is accessible at the current user access level. It will
become something like a personal Content Management System where you can
self-determine the layout of whatever module and component output you need
for your individual needs.

 

  _____  

From: garifuna at gmail.com [mailto:garifuna at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jorge
Garifuna
Sent: 17 April 2006 15:48
To: ncknight at pacific.net.sg; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

 

Sorry, I forgot the attach the visual files for Quick Books Pro 2006 payment
interface.
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 


 

On 4/17/06, Jorge Garifuna <garifuna at gmail.com> wrote: 

I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
across many departments of a company. 

 

I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
"receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
particular invoice.  

 

For example a typical job contract may look like this:

10% due at job start

50% due within 3 days of starting point

40% due at job completion

 

If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
against the invoice:

 

1) $100

2) $500

3) $400

 

After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.


Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM 4.2
for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario explained
above is closely related to the real world.

 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  


 

On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg > wrote: 

I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE. This

could have the following scenario:

- Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance (potentials,
closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day. 

- Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next to
each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.

Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access 
Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
system a true CRM and MIS.

-----Original Message-----
From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com> ] On Behalf Of
Sergio A. Kessler
Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix .. 

On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna < jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com
<mailto:jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> > wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it 
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants. 

== BLOAT

/sak

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From garifuna at gmail.com  Mon Apr 17 03:46:06 2006
From: garifuna at gmail.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:46:06 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
References: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
	<000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
Message-ID: <677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
across many departments of a company.

I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
"receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
particular invoice.

For example a typical job contract may look like this:
10% due at job start
50% due within 3 days of starting point
40% due at job completion

If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
against the invoice:

1) $100
2) $500
3) $400

After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.

Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM
4.2for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario
explained
above is closely related to the real world.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>


On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg> wrote:
>
> I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
> users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE.
> This
> could have the following scenario:
>
> - Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
> leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance
> (potentials,
> closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.
>
> - Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next
> to
> each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
> potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.
>
> Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
> Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
> Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
> system a true CRM and MIS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com ] On Behalf Of
> Sergio A. Kessler
> Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
>
> On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think the interface looks nice.
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
>
> > could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
> wants.
>
> == BLOAT
>
> /sak
>
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From info at GariDigital.com  Mon Apr 17 03:47:37 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:47:37 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
	<000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
	<677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604170047s7935bca7ja151290634541449@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I forgot the attach the visual files for Quick Books Pro 2006 payment
interface.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/17/06, Jorge Garifuna <garifuna at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
> challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
> users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
> to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
> across many departments of a company.
>
> I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
> interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
> "receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
> the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
> is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
> this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
> particular invoice.
>
> For example a typical job contract may look like this:
> 10% due at job start
> 50% due within 3 days of starting point
> 40% due at job completion
>
> If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
> against the invoice:
>
> 1) $100
> 2) $500
> 3) $400
>
> After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.
>
> Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM 4.2for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario explained
> above is closely related to the real world.
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>  On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg > wrote:
> >
> > I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what
> > end
> > users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE.
> > This
> > could have the following scenario:
> >
> > - Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
> > leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance
> > (potentials,
> > closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.
> >
> > - Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments
> > next to
> > each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
> > potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.
> >
> > Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
> > Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
> > Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes
> > the
> > system a true CRM and MIS.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com ] On Behalf Of
> > Sergio A. Kessler
> > Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
> > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
> >
> > On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna < jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the interface looks nice.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if
> > it
> > > could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
> > wants.
> >
> > == BLOAT
> >
> > /sak
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
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> >
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>
>
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From jg at garinet.com  Sat Apr 15 15:54:12 2006
From: jg at garinet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:54:12 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
	<53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
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vTiger CRM is obviously one of the best solutions I've seen out there in its
class. I always recommended as one of my favorite solutions.

I have mentioned it on certain business forums and because people are always
asking for CRM solutions, I wrote a little article about my experience with
the different CRM applications that I've played around with:

http://theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5

For the rest of you guys, feel free to post your replies to that article
showing your support for vTiger CRM, bacause I'm always referring people to
that link and the more support they see about vTiger, the more that will
decide on it.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/15/06, Brian Devendorf <developer at infointegrated.com> wrote:
>
> I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to
> select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic.
> Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double width,
> double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger size. Also,
> the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or have it based on
> screen size),
>
> I must say this is the best home page implementation I have seen yet.
> Great work, Saint!
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>  I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.
>  - An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing link:
>  http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html
>
> - I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as
> well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily
> change the settings.
>  - the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if
> the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she
> can easily have that option.
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>  On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> >
> > I like it.
> > Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
> > interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.
> > He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
> > in the home page from 4.2.3
> >
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and
> > > find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of
> > vtiger.
> > >
> > > The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> > > The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> > > The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
> > > weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
> > >
> > > The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> > > colored paper visuals.
> > >
> > > I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
> > > of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts,
> > > modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> > > for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
> > >
> > > Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
> > >
> > > Saint
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
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> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
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> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Mon Apr 17 11:03:59 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:03:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
	<443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net><677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com><53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
	<000001c661fb$58d29880$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B73A8@office.nubrek.local>

Folks,
 
I'm on board with Josh's feedback here.  My users just made the transition into 4.2 and while 5.0 offers a lot of great features, I'd like to be able to keep UI differences to a minimum. As great as everyone thinks 5.0 looks, it is complex and intimidating to a newcomer.  I think its great to have this as an option, but I think we also need to hang on to a simple theme/interface that looks more like the Sugar's and Salesforce.com's of the world.
 
The fact that so many people are so tied to the 5.0 look is only a signal that themes really do mean a lot to the end user.  We should make certain that 4.2 users who really liked the theme, can continue to use what they prefer just like so many prefer the 5.0 look.  Personally, I would like a theme that looks a lot closer to Salesforce so that I could compete with them better --keep it more of an apples to apples.
 
Seriously, let's not become the open source project that has an over-bearing, overly complex, overly functional UI.  Let's keep it easy for the end-user who will only touch this for 5 minutes each day --in the end, they're the ones who need CRM the most.
 
- Joel

________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Jorge Garifuna
Sent: Mon 4/17/2006 3:45 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..


vTiger CRM is obviously one of the best solutions I've seen out there in its class. I always recommended as one of my favorite solutions.
 
I have mentioned it on certain business forums and because people are always asking for CRM solutions, I wrote a little article about my experience with the different CRM applications that I've played around with:
 
http://theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5
 
For the rest of you guys, feel free to post your replies to that article showing your support for vTiger CRM, bacause I'm always referring people to that link and the more support they see about vTiger, the more that will decide on it. 
 
-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 

 
On 4/15/06, Brian Devendorf <developer at infointegrated.com> wrote: 

	I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic. Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double width, double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger size. Also, the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or have it based on screen size), 
	
	I must say this is the best home page implementation I have seen yet. Great work, Saint!
	 
	
	Brian
	
	
	
	
	I think the interface looks nice.
	I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.
	- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing link:
	http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html 
	 
	- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily change the settings.
	- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she can easily have that option.

	-- 
	Jorge Garifuna
	Professional Web Developer
	"Your Web Solution Partner"
	Garinet Global Inc.
	http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  
	On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote: 

		I like it.
		Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
		interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for. 
		He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
		in the home page from 4.2.3
		
		Saint wrote:
		
		> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
		> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger. 
		>
		> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
		> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
		> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
		> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts. 
		>
		> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
		> colored paper visuals.
		>
		> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
		> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
		> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
		> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
		>
		> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
		>
		> Saint
		>
		>
		>
		> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
		>
		>------------------------------------------------------------------------
		>
		>_______________________________________________
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		>
		
		
		--
		Josh Lee
		Software Engineer
		Zertis Technologies, LLC 
		205.422.5279
		jlee at zertis.net 
		
		
		
		_______________________________________________
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 17 16:48:54 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:48:54 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
Message-ID: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>

On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.

Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
start working on stuff for the next release.

Allan



From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 05:08:39 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:08:39 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>
References: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>
Message-ID: <4444AC97.3010708@mikefedyk.com>

No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.

Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.

Mike

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new in
> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>
> Regrads,
>
> Remco
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> JACQUEMES
> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
>
> You're welcome Fathi
>
> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>
> Michel
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>>     
>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>       
>> included.
>>     
>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>
>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>       
>> congratulations !!!
>> thanks michel.
>> _______________________________________________
>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>     
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 05:24:30 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:24:30 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <4444AC97.3010708@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Mike,

That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
files?

There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> Envoy??: mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> 
> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> 
> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> in
> > vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >
> > Regrads,
> >
> > Remco
> >
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> > JACQUEMES
> > Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> > Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >
> >
> > You're welcome Fathi
> >
> > Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> > Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >>
> >>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>
> >> included.
> >>
> >>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> >>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
> we
> >>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>
> >> congratulations !!!
> >> thanks michel.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> > ----- Scanned for virus and spam
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 05:22:32 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:22:32 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4444AFD8.2050309@mikefedyk.com>

I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.

If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.

Mike

Allan Bush wrote:
> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
>
> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> start working on stuff for the next release.
>
> Allan
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 05:35:15 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:35:15 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <4444B2D3.7040702@mikefedyk.com>

There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the 
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac 
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>       
>> in
>>     
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>       
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>         
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>     
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> included.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>>           
>> we
>>     
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>         
>> down
>>     
>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>>         
>> enabled,
>>     
>>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>       
>> down
>>     
>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>       
>> enabled,
>>     
>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>
>>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>       
>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>     
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
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>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>>     
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 05:41:07 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:41:07 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <4444AFD8.2050309@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> Envoy??: mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
> 
> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
> 
> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Allan Bush wrote:
> > On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> > related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> > 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> > fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
> >
> > Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> > to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> > package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> > start working on stuff for the next release.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 05:45:51 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:45:51 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
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Yes, any time.

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
> few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
>
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
>>
>> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
>>
>> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Allan Bush wrote:
>>     
>>> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
>>> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
>>> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
>>> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
>>>
>>> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
>>> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
>>> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
>>> start working on stuff for the next release.
>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 18 12:12:25 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:12:25 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <4444B2D3.7040702@mikefedyk.com>
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nice move!

Where can I find the website for Image Graph?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
>
> There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
>
> Mike
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> > files?
> >
> > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> them,
> > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> >>
> >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> >>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >>>
> >>> Regrads,
> >>>
> >>> Remco
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> >>> JACQUEMES
> >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You're welcome Fathi
> >>>
> >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>>
> >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >>
> >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> included.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> what
> >>>>>
> >> we
> >>
> >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> congratulations !!!
> >>>> thanks michel.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Apr 18 12:43:09 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:43:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
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Dear Jorge Garifuna,

Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
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----info at garidigital.com wrote ---- 

nice move! Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
 -- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 
 On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> included.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>>
>> we
>>
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>
>> down
>>
>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>>
>> enabled,
>>
>>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>
>> down
>>
>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>
>> enabled,
>>
>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>
>>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
>
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From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 18 13:15:25 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:15:25 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
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Gopal,

Thanks for the link.

I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state (
http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download).

- Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
piece of software for organizations?

- Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jorge Garifuna,
>
> Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:
>
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/
>
> Thanks,
> Gopal
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ----info at garidigital.com wrote ----
>
>  nice move!
>
> Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> > latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> >
> > with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be
> > done
> > > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you
> > patch
> > > files?
> > >
> > > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> > them,
> > > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> > >
> > > Michel
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> > vtigercrm-
> > >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> > >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> > >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>
> > >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> > >>
> > >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Mike,
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely
> > new
> > >>>
> > >> in
> > >>
> > >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regrads,
> > >>>
> > >>> Remco
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens
> > Michel
> > >>> JACQUEMES
> > >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> > >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> You're welcome Fathi
> > >>>
> > >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> > >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> > >>>
> > >>> Michel
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>>>
> > >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> > >>
> > >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> > >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> > >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> included.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing
> > it
> > >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> > what
> > >>>>>
> > >> we
> > >>
> > >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> congratulations !!!
> > >>>> thanks michel.
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
> > scribbling
> > >>>>
> > >> down
> > >>
> > >>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > >>>>
> > >> enabled,
> > >>
> > >>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > >>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > >>>
> > >> down
> > >>
> > >>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > >>>
> > >> enabled,
> > >>
> > >>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
> > >>>
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> > >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > >>>
> > >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the
> > AJAX
> > >> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> > >>
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> > down
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>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 18:34:42 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:34:42 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 4.2.3 Calendar bugfix.
In-Reply-To: <44405C28.5090009@zertis.net>
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Message-ID: <44456982.5070705@mikefedyk.com>

Can you make a unified diff with winmerge and attach it to a ticket with 
a milestone of 4.2.5?

Mike

Josh Lee wrote:
> 4.2.3 Bugfix for calendar
>
> calendar month around line 236
>
>        else
>        { // day overlaps by Fredy
>            if ( $today == Date("Ymd",$ts)){
>                $col = "ol-today";
>            }
>            else if ($wd == 6) {
>                $col = "ol-holiday";
>            }
>          else if ($wd == 5) {
>             $col = "ol-freeday";
>                }
>            else if ($xm != $m ) {
>                $col = "ol-otherday";
>            }
>            else  {
>                $col = "ol-appday";
>            }
>        }
>
>
> Josh Lee wrote:
>
>> Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail 
>> view.
>> Simple probelm simple fix.
>>
>> includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
>> At the bottom of the file change this:
>>
>>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>>    {
>>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>>                $key1=$keys[0];
>>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>>        {
>>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>>        }
>>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 
>> => $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>>    }
>>    return $return_data;
>>
>>
>> To this:
>>
>>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>>    {
>>       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
>>        $key1 = null;
>>        $key2 = null;
>>       // Done adding
>>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>>                $key1=$keys[0];
>>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>>        {
>>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>>        }
>>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 
>> => $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>>    }
>>    return $return_data;
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>>
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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 23:27:12 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:27:12 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <677641040604181015q3e5e1955n338d14c20b114ddc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA+vVFbK0fJUuenLxmtgRvHAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Jorge,

 

You can have a look at that page

 

http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/

 

If you are interested, I have started to put some stuff on vtiger wiki :

 

http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Developing_Charts_using_ImageGraph

 

I don?t have any idea why Image Graph is still at alpha stage. For the tests
I have done, it looks stable.

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Jorge Garifuna
Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 19:15
? : gopals at vtiger.com; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced

 

Gopal,

 

Thanks for the link. 

 

I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state
(http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download). 

 

- Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
piece of software for organizations?

 

- Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 


 

On 4/18/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote: 

Dear Jorge Garifuna,

Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal 
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com <http://gopal.vtiger.com/>  
Skype: sripadag 
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437 





---- info at garidigital.com <mailto:info at garidigital.com>  wrote ---- 

nice move!

 

Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  


 

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com > wrote: 

There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac 
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch 
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>
>> -----Message d'origine----- 
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto: vtigercrm-
<mailto:vtigercrm-> 
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk 
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com> 
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance. 
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES 
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com> 
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14 
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> included. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it 
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>> 
>> we
>>
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>>> This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho
Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>
>> down
>>
>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX 
>>>> 
>> enabled,
>>
>>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>>>>
>>>>
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Planner. Still scribbling
>>>
>> down
>>
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>>
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>>>
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Still scribbling down
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enabled, 
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>
>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Wed Apr 19 00:08:58 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:08:58 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please stop adding bug reports for v5
	without setting the milestone.
Message-ID: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>

And for that matter, more and better milestones would be a good idea too.

I look at the bug reports by milestone (ticket listing 3) so having a 
bunch with unset milestones for v5 gets in the way.

Mike


From info at GariDigital.com  Wed Apr 19 00:18:07 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:18:07 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA+vVFbK0fJUuenLxmtgRvHAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
References: <677641040604181015q3e5e1955n338d14c20b114ddc@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <677641040604182118o709d8d9h9c886c8a8a395451@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for sharing Michael!

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Michel JACQUEMES <m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote:
>
>  Hi Jorge,
>
>
>
> You can have a look at that page
>
>
>
> http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/
>
>
>
> If you are interested, I have started to put some stuff on vtiger wiki :
>
>
>
> http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Developing_Charts_using_ImageGraph
>
>
>
> I don't have any idea why Image Graph is still at alpha stage. For the
> tests I have done, it looks stable.
>
>
>
> Michel
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *De :* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *De la part de* Jorge
> Garifuna
> *Envoy? :* mardi 18 avril 2006 19:15
> *? :* gopals at vtiger.com; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>
> *Objet :* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
>
>
> Gopal,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the link.
>
>
>
> I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state (
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download).
>
>
>
> - Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
> piece of software for organizations?
>
>
>
> - Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, *Gopal* <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jorge Garifuna,
>
> Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:
>
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/
>
> Thanks,
> Gopal
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ---- info at garidigital.com wrote ----
>
> nice move!
>
>
>
> Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, *Mike Fedyk* <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com > wrote:
>
> There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
>
> Mike
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> > files?
> >
> > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> them,
> > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> >>
> >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> >>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >>>
> >>> Regrads,
> >>>
> >>> Remco
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens
> Michel
> >>> JACQUEMES
> >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You're welcome Fathi
> >>>
> >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>>
> >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >>
> >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> included.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>
> >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> what
> >>>>>
> >> we
> >>
> >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> congratulations !!!
> >>>> thanks michel.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >>>>
> >> enabled,
> >>
> >>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >>>
> >> enabled,
> >>
> >>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>
> >>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>
> >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> down
> >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From allan.bush at gmail.com  Wed Apr 19 02:36:14 2006
From: allan.bush at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:36:14 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please stop adding bug reports for v5
	without setting the milestone.
In-Reply-To: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>
References: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604182336xb6978c9x8fa77ae313697dfc@mail.gmail.com>

I agree.
I wouldn't bother trying to fix all the bug reports right now,
hopefully when this round of QA is finished someone with access to the
trac backend can just fix them all in one go.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> And for that matter, more and better milestones would be a good idea too.
>
> I look at the bug reports by milestone (ticket listing 3) so having a
> bunch with unset milestones for v5 gets in the way.
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Fri Apr 21 03:52:55 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:52:55 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
	<4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>

Good to see you back Mike.

Any word on richie putting rc3 out?
I've created a patch for ticket #86
(http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/86), depending on
what state everything is in we may want to try and slip it in under
the wire.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> Yes, any time.
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
> > few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
> >>
> >> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
> >>
> >> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Allan Bush wrote:
> >>
> >>> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> >>> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> >>> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> >>> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
> >>>
> >>> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> >>> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> >>> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> >>> start working on stuff for the next release.
> >>>
> >>> Allan
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>
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From richie at vtiger.com  Fri Apr 21 04:27:15 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:27:15 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>	<4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
	<3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10abb8f5c06.-9220458501084372140.2763426437080733311@@vtiger.com>

Hi! 
 
I am waiting for mikef's nod. 
mikef, let me know when you want me to put and give 
out the exe/bin for 4.2.4. 
 
Richie




---- Allan Bush&lt;allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Good to see you back Mike.

Any word on richie putting rc3 out?
I've created a patch for ticket #86
(http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/86), depending on
what state everything is in we may want to try and slip it in under
the wire.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk &lt;mfedyk at mikefedyk.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; Yes, any time.
&gt;
&gt; Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
&gt; &gt; I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
&gt; &gt; few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; -----Message d'origine-----
&gt; &gt;&gt; De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
&gt; &gt;&gt; developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
&gt; &gt;&gt; Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
&gt; &gt;&gt; ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
&gt; &gt;&gt; Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Mike
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Allan Bush wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; related to packaging and both have patches ready to go. I agree the
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release? Mike Fedyk seems
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; package the release? I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; start working on stuff for the next release.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Allan
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; down your To-Do's on bits of paper &amp; palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
&gt; &gt;&gt; enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
&gt; &gt;&gt; http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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&gt; &gt;&gt; personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Fri Apr 21 12:20:42 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:20:42 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SVN commit syntax
Message-ID: <3bec26390604210920y7af6e204m2a8c116dca4aff52@mail.gmail.com>

I'm glad to see more people taking advantage of the trac ticket
system, I find it extremely  useful myself and I'm sure everyone else
will as well.  I just want to point out a couple shortcuts that will
make everyone's life a little easier.

If you included certain key phrases in your SVN commit message any
relevant tickets will be automatically modified.  The ones I find
useful are "Refs #<ticket number>" and "Closes #<ticket number>".  I'm
sure there are more of these but I can't find an documentation on this
(trust me they works, I've done it several times myself).

If your commit message included "Refs #<ticket number>" (ie: Refs
#223) then that ticket will automatically get linked to your checked
in changeset and a comment added matching your commit message.  This
is super useful in tracking the progress on fixing a bug.

If your commit message included "Closes #<ticket number>" then you get
the same effect as using "Refs" plus the added bonus of having the
ticket close itself automatically saving you from having to do it
yourself.

If we could all agree to use this syntax it would greatly increase the
value of the ticket system.



From jtk at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 21 13:12:29 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:12:29 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SVN commit syntax
References: <3bec26390604210920y7af6e204m2a8c116dca4aff52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.21.17.12.28.374020@yahoo.com>

Allan Bush wrote:
> I'm glad to see more people taking advantage of the trac ticket
> system

I concur 100% in thanking the vtiger team for starting to use trac tickets
for their trunk development.

Here is the relevant documentation for the python script that handles this
integration of commit messages and the ticket system.

-----------

It searches commit messages for text in the form of:

  command #1
  command #1, #2
  command #1 & #2
  command #1 and #2
 
You can have more then one command in a message. The following commands
are supported. There is more then one spelling for each command, to make
this as user-friendly as possible. 

 closes, fixes
   The specified issue numbers are closed with the contents of
   this commit message being added to it.

 references, refs, addresses, re 
   The specified issue numbers are left in their current status, but
   the contents of this commit message are added to their notes. 


A fairly complicated example of what you can do is with a commit message
of:

   Changed blah and foo to do this or that. Fixes #10 and #12, and refs
   #12.

This will close #10 and #12, and add a note to #12.


-------------

Also be sure to aprise yourself of the trac syntax for embedding code and
revision references in your checkin messages. Makes browsing the
repository very easy. I used these in changesets such as:

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5114

  refs #62 and #17. merging source:vtigercrm/branches/4.2 r5080 through
  r5113 to source:vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. allanbush
  fixed CreatePDF.php pdf generation bugs

That's a little overboard for routine commits, of course, but explicit
references to logical source and destination are very useful for merges
and other branching actions.

Thanks again to everybody creating all those tickets recently. If we can
get somebody with access to the database backend to update their
milestones (currently set to none), that would be a tremendous release
planning asset. 



From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Sun Apr 23 19:10:17 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:10:17 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
Message-ID: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
the forge is not available for me.

Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?

A?ssa


From fboudra at free.fr  Mon Apr 24 08:25:54 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:25:54 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
In-Reply-To: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>

hi aissa,

> Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
> the forge is not available for me.
>
> Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?

maintenance : box upgrade goes wrong since last update.

i'm working on it...

cheers,

Fathi


From richie at vtiger.com  Mon Apr 24 10:26:18 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:26:18 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
Message-ID: <10acc4b2a57.-3766842912071413281.6608330223419069294@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

The code base is slowly being stabilized and I would expect it to be upto the mark 
by around May 7th or so. 

I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

Thanks,
Richie
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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Mon Apr 24 17:08:37 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:08:37 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <000001c667ab$9e760100$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B73D4@office.nubrek.local>

Richie,
 
In my view it is a must for vTiger 5 to support PostgreSQL.  This is a sensitive topic here, so I'll try to be objective and not start a flame war:

1.	
	MySQL is not opensource, it requires $ and a license to use it commercially --which as someone pointed out earlier, is the main driver for using vTiger in the first place, to make money.
2.	
	MySQL does not own the INNODB transactional table type, Oracle does
3.	
	Oracle, the other database supported (?) is not open source
4.	
	Compliance with PostgreSQL suggests that the codebase is much more tightly aligned with the ANSI SQL2000 standard --which easily leads to support for other Adodb databases
5.	
	PostgresSQL has a strong following on this list and there are many individuals who are ready and willing to contribute.  I would highlight bushwack and jeffk who have performed significant amounts of work in bringing PostgreSQL support to 4.2.4

If we're agressively pursuing opensource components for vTiger, I think we need to ensure that consumers aren't forced into a non-opensource license just to run the application.  If someone wants to run this on a Windows Server XXXX with an Oracle db, I wish them luck.  At the same time, we want folks with Fedora core X, to be able to legitimately run vTiger without shelling out $.

All of this said, I see two main drivers to get PostgreSQL support in vTiger 5 before release.

1.	Added portability and stability by supporting an ANSI SQL 2000-compliant db.
2.	Removed dependence on non-opensource software.

This is my view.

- Joel


________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Richie
Sent: Mon 4/24/2006 9:30 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5


Hello!

The code base is slowly being stabilized and I would expect it to be upto the mark 
by around May 7th or so. 

I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

Thanks,
Richie
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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Mon Apr 24 17:10:33 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:10:33 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
In-Reply-To: <200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <1145913034.5434.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Totally my fault, I upgraded some of the packages in the sarge security
repo and the whole thing died.  Hopefully Fathi can fix it up soon.
Fathi let me know if you need anything from me to help move this along.

My bad.

Matt

On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 14:25 +0200, Fathi Boudra wrote:
> hi aissa,
> 
> > Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
> > the forge is not available for me.
> >
> > Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?
> 
> maintenance : box upgrade goes wrong since last update.
> 
> i'm working on it...
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Fathi
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 



From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 24 17:36:16 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:36:16 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
Message-ID: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>

Good day everyone,

I noticed that a branch was created for the 4.2.4 release, I take this
a a sign that I can start putting stuff into the 4.2 branch for the
4.2.5 release.

The first thing I'd like to do is to merge the 4.2_postgres branch
into the 4.2 branch (ticket #17).  I'd like to leave in the code from
ticket #69 (http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/69)
well doing this as I think the extra debugging information could
benefit from the eyes of a wider release.  If anyone has any comments
on this lets hear it.

jeffk, you seem to know how to juggle the svn branching/merging, feel
free to merge the branches.  If you're busy I'll figure it out and
probably do it later tonight.

Allan



From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 17:44:00 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:44:00 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:36:16 -0700, Allan Bush wrote:
> jeffk, you seem to know how to juggle the svn branching/merging, feel
> free to merge the branches.  If you're busy I'll figure it out and
> probably do it later tonight.

I'll do that right now. I'm doing the mechanical merge, it will need
testing (I have zero php-debugging-fu; I just do a quick install of the
demo dataset and duck ;)

Any bugs found post merge should get trac tickets with the 4.2.5
milestone.




From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 18:36:37 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:36:37 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>

OK, the branches have been merged.

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5306

Per the longwinded changeset log, there will surely be breakage and some
rapid integration work needed to support both postgresql and mysql for the
end user.

When this is done, we should delete
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration and close tickets #62 and
#17.

Thanks for all the postgresql support. I encourage Richie and his team to
review this changeset and apply relevant portions and lessons to
vtigercrm/trunk ASAP.




From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 24 21:21:41 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:21:41 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604241821v466df53jf1e60cfa7d615f28@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Jeff

I don't really anticipate anything being broken as the 4.2 branch is
nearly the same as the postgres branch now and I tested that with
mysql and postgres installations, but we'll see.

On 4/24/06, Jeff Kowalczyk <jtk at yahoo.com> wrote:
> OK, the branches have been merged.
>
> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5306
>
> Per the longwinded changeset log, there will surely be breakage and some
> rapid integration work needed to support both postgresql and mysql for the
> end user.
>
> When this is done, we should delete
> vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration and close tickets #62 and
> #17.
>
> Thanks for all the postgresql support. I encourage Richie and his team to
> review this changeset and apply relevant portions and lessons to
> vtigercrm/trunk ASAP.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 22:41:28 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:41:28 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>

Richie wrote:
> I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

   There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
   another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.



From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 22:47:36 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:47:36 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>

Richie wrote:
> (...) vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

GA? What's that? ;)

Oh, you must mean the tagged releases with a series of predictable names
of the form vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 through vtigercrm-5.0.0?

The ones that linux packagers will be glad to distributed to millions of
grateful users?

Sorry, Richie, the version naming curmudgeon(s) will coming to the party
once the team gets ready to start calling it beta. We'll bring cake,
though.

;)



From rrg at r2g.nl  Tue Apr 25 05:11:41 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:11:41 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKCEILCBAA.rrg@r2g.nl>

Hi Jeff,

I agree with you, giving more people a choice which db to use at the start
of implementing VtigerCRM highlites the best part of using OpenSource.
Having implemented VtigerCRM at several clients of mine on a online
webserver works fine.
Being able to use a different db backend for integration with others apps
would be great.
Just to make it clear I need both databases for this: mysql and postgressql.
If at some point we would be able to use firebird as well, well that will be
the day for me :-)

Regards,

Remco Gerbrands




-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Jeff
Kowalczyk
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 april 2006 4:41
Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5


Richie wrote:
> I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

   There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
   another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.

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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Tue Apr 25 17:44:41 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:44:41 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
Message-ID: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
many of us aren't watching the forums.
Let me know what you think.
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541

Matt



From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Apr 25 23:06:51 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:06:51 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <10ad429d1dc.7191252965695616562.7859674740524310394@@vtiger.com>

Dear Matt,

Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass mail. 

Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level. 

Regards,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal 
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com 
Skype: sripadag 
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437 





----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ---- 

I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
many of us aren't watching the forums.
Let me know what you think.
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541

Matt

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 26 14:14:53 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:14:53 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>

matt, WRT mail tracking, how do you track the "opened" state if the
MUA does not download external images (most MUAs todays do that)

I didn't undertand when you say the clear icon is "scanned" ...

regards,
/sergio

On 4/26/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>  Dear Matt,
>
> Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found
> very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I
> exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass
> mail.
>
> Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will
> definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level.
>
> Regards,
> Gopal
>
> S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
>
>
>
>
>
> ----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ----
>
>
>
> I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
> many of us aren't watching the forums.
> Let me know what you think.
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541
>
> Matt
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Wed Apr 26 15:38:36 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:38:36 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
	<49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1146080316.5434.119.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Sergio,
	You're right, the good MUA's don't automatically load images.  In that
case you may not get the initial 'open' action if the user doesn't allow
the images to load.  In quite a few cases you can get around this with
an embedded iframe but I am not a big fan of using that method because
it has so much potential for abuse.  There are also email clients (like
evolution) that will cache the images so they only load once, in that
case you'll never now if the user re-opened the email.  As far as
scanning, when I was reading up on email tracking methods I had run
across a site that mentioned some filtering systems will actually load
the images when the email is scanned.  I haven't run across this yet
myself and it seems a bit counter intuitive if the scanning mechanism
was trying to detect spam :).
	I've also noticed that if you enabled tracking and unsub links in your
email the spam rating will jump at least 1 point with most spam filters
like spamassasin.

	I've sent a campaign out to some of our clients and it had a 100% open
rate which to me means that either many users don't have image loading
turned off, or they use one of those crappier clients that offers you no
protection from tracking.  So really YMMV because of the way different
MUA's handle images, but so far my experience has been that most users
don't bother to use those MUA's or don't bother to enable the tracking
protections.

Matt

On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 15:14 -0300, Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> matt, WRT mail tracking, how do you track the "opened" state if the
> MUA does not download external images (most MUAs todays do that)
> 
> I didn't undertand when you say the clear icon is "scanned" ...
> 
> regards,
> /sergio
> 
> On 4/26/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
> >  Dear Matt,
> >
> > Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found
> > very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I
> > exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass
> > mail.
> >
> > Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will
> > definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gopal
> >
> > S.S.G.Gopal
> > Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> > Skype: sripadag
> > Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ----
> >
> >
> >
> > I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
> > many of us aren't watching the forums.
> > Let me know what you think.
> > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
> > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
> >
> 
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From jg at garinet.com  Thu Apr 27 02:57:40 2006
From: jg at garinet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:57:40 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5. Need
	help
Message-ID: <677641040604262357t1b2b09fk8db5a1dac628a455@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
there is problem on step 3 of 5.

Here is the error I'm getting:

   Step 3 of 5 [image: vtiger CRM]       Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters
specified   *

Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons:

- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
- specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
server from the host*
 *

Kindly check the specified database connection parameters...

*
Here is what I have:
-- vTiger 4.2.3
-- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
-- PHP Version: 4.3.2

I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
script with the same host name, user name and db name.

The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943

Thanks in advanced for your help.


--
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Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Thu Apr 27 06:23:48 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:23:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] About locate map on vtiger 5.
Message-ID: <44509BB4.2050908@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
the new locate map functionnality is cool on vtiger CRM 5.
I think this function can be best, with "Get direction".
By using my company address and customer address, we can have the road 
direction on google maps.

Map + road direction = very cool to move.

Respect,
A?ssa.


From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 09:24:05 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:24:05 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10adb854511.-6759985834055790868.6453244679148152047@@vtiger.com>

Hi! 
 
Why am i starting to hate this guy ? :D! 
 
How to go about handling the Postgres integration into v5 please? 
All suggestions are welcome. 
Allan Bush and Joel , it will be nice to get a response from you. 
 
Richie




---- Jeff Kowalczyk&lt;jtk at yahoo.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Richie wrote:
&gt; (...) vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

GA? What's that? ;)

Oh, you must mean the tagged releases with a series of predictable names
of the form vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 through vtigercrm-5.0.0?

The ones that linux packagers will be glad to distributed to millions of
grateful users?

Sorry, Richie, the version naming curmudgeon(s) will coming to the party
once the team gets ready to start calling it beta. We'll bring cake,
though.

;)

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From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 09:25:30 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:25:30 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10adb869364.-649200440285564960.-7653367893237445779@@vtiger.com>

Hello! 
 
Agreed. We will support Postgres but we need help. 
Here, we are working on the bug-fixes and are totally 
swamped. 
All hands welcome for Postgres support. 
 
Richie




---- Jeff Kowalczyk&lt;jtk at yahoo.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Richie wrote:
&gt; I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
&gt; GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

 There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
 another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql&lt;-&gt;postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.

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From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 09:27:35 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:27:35 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5
Message-ID: <10adb8879c7.-4170929643010971357.7693297806886073293@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

We have not made much progress in v5 with respect to the muli-language support.
We need help. 

Please do suggest approaches for the same as well.

We had been initially working on mikecrowe's contribution but we are not able to get
in touch with him for sometime now so the job is still incomplete.

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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 11:50:33 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:50:33 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Richie,

To support Postgres there are about 3 or 4 things you need to consider
on all the queries made.  If you see my post in the forums
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=2597 I've outlined the
problems that need to be addressed (yes that's for a different version
but the problems will be the same, except for the first problem which
an adodb upgrade solved).

In order for Postgres support to be possible those issues need to be
addressed in the current code AND all developers must continue to
address them in all further code they write.  If I can be assured of
the second point I'll make the required changes once the code base is
somewhat stable and feature complete (I'm thinking between beta1 and
beta2).

Allan

PS fyi how I go about finding and fixing these issues is I tweak
adodb's debugging ala ticket #69 and then install and use vtiger
fixing the database errors as I come across them

On 4/27/06, Richie <richie at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Agreed. We will support Postgres but we need help.
> Here, we are working on the bug-fixes and are totally
> swamped.
> All hands welcome for Postgres support.
>
>
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Jeff Kowalczyk<jtk at yahoo.com> wrote ----
>
>
>  Richie wrote:
> > I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> > GA please.
>
> I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
> someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
> reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
> integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.
>
> But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
> postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:
>
>  There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
>  another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.
>
> Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
> on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
> vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
> months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?
>
> Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
> have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
> preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
> wrong with a converted dataset.
>
> I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
> at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
> needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 27 12:13:15 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:13:15 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
	<3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.27.16.13.14.294948@yahoo.com>

Allan Bush wrote:
> To support Postgres there are about 3 or 4 things you need to consider
> on all the queries made.  If you see my post in the forums
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=2597 I've outlined the problems
> that need to be addressed (yes that's for a different version but the
> problems will be the same, except for the first problem which an adodb
> upgrade solved).

I think it would be useful to have a trac ticket listing those four
requirements, plus any additions or refinements you encountered since your
work with vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration.

The vtiger team can help you help them by adding "refs #(number)" to any
checkins they make in the coming weeks that follow your ticket's
postgresql-readiness advice. Committers will eventually internalize those
guidelines when writing new code. You (Allan) will also have a nice
indicator of how much postgresql prep work has been done at any given
point, and can better decide when to jump in.

I agree that you'll want to have a somewhat slower change-velocity (e.g.
during beta) before giving it a thorough conversion and sign-off as to its
readiness.

IMO adodb API usage that is limited to mysql (or any single backend) is a
bug and fixing it would not be a new feature, so I think it's OK to
fix/add postgresql and other backend support during the beta period.

Disclaimers at install-time that there is no announced support for
migrating from one database backend to another would be wise.



From jg at garidigital.com  Thu Apr 27 12:23:45 2006
From: jg at garidigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:23:45 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5. Need
	help
Message-ID: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,



I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
there is problem on step 3 of 5.



Here is the error I'm getting:


   Step 3 of 5


       Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified



  *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *

*- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
- specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
server from the host*

*Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *

Here is what I have:
-- vTiger 4.2.3

-- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
-- PHP Version: 4.3.2


I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
script with the same host name, user name and db name.



The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out



http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104



http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943



Thanks in advanced for your help.



--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 12:45:29 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:15:29 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will this
	help?
Message-ID: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant 
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do 
you think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience?

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can 
generate an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar 
quotes using the information of that particular quote like account name, 
potential name, address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, 
you cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining 
to that product etc.


regards,
Saint


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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 13:20:00 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:20:00 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5.
	Need help
In-Reply-To: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>

This isn't really the place for user support, you'll have much better luck
in the forms.  Also posting the same thing twice isn't going to win you any
fans.

Your problem is, as stated, vtiger can't connect to your database.  If you
have some technical knowledge the line that's failing is line 50 of
install/3confirmConfig.php you may be able to figure it out from there.  My
first guess is that your mysql installation doesn't support/allow persistent
connections.

On 4/27/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garidigital.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
> but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
> there is problem on step 3 of 5.
>
>
>
> Here is the error I'm getting:
>
>
>    Step 3 of 5
>
>
>
>        Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified
>
>
>
>   *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
> connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *
>
> *- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
> - specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
> server from the host *
>
> *Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *
>
> Here is what I have:
> -- vTiger 4.2.3
>
> -- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
> -- PHP Version: 4.3.2
>
>
> I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
> script with the same host name, user name and db name.
>
>
>
> The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
> was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943
>
>
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
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From jg at garidigital.com  Thu Apr 27 13:42:58 2006
From: jg at garidigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:42:58 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5.
	Need help
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
	<3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604271042l4f205b02ybf3755fcc12cc8e8@mail.gmail.com>

Allan

I certainly appreciate your reply. I'm a supporter of vTiger CRM (
http://www.garidigital.com/docs/vtiger/
http://www.theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5 ) and the reason I post here is
because I exhausted my options on the forum. I certainly do not need your
lectures about the appropriate place to place my questions. If I didn't know
better I wouldn't mind your suggestion. I think we can all benefit much
better from this medium by assisting each other so  that vTiger CRM can grow
even more.

Any other assistance would be greatly appreciated.
--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/27/06, Allan Bush <allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This isn't really the place for user support, you'll have much better luck
> in the forms.  Also posting the same thing twice isn't going to win you any
> fans.
>
> Your problem is, as stated, vtiger can't connect to your database.  If you
> have some technical knowledge the line that's failing is line 50 of
> install/3confirmConfig.php you may be able to figure it out from there.  My
> first guess is that your mysql installation doesn't support/allow persistent
> connections.
>
>  On 4/27/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garidigital.com> wrote:
>
> >  Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
> but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
> there is problem on step 3 of 5.
>
>
>
> Here is the error I'm getting:
>
>
>    Step 3 of 5
>
>
>
>        Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified
>
>
>
>   *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
> connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *
>
> *- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
> - specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
> server from the host *
>
> *Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *
>
> Here is what I have:
> -- vTiger 4.2.3
>
> -- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
> -- PHP Version: 4.3.2
>
>
> I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
> script with the same host name, user name and db name.
>
>
>
> The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
> was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943
>
>
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 27 15:29:29 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:29:29 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
	<3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.27.19.29.28.127076@yahoo.com>

Just to see what an automatic merge would accomplish to bring the 4.2
postgresql support to the trunk, I did a dry run merge. Definitely file
this under 'foolhardy merging that would break the trunk in many ways':

In svn update/merge console output, 'U' indicates clean merge of
changesets, 'C' indicates conflicting lines.

This merge testing is done with a trunk checkout:

 URL: http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/trunk
 Revision: 5506

Changeset 5306 is the changeset that merged the work from
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration to the 4.2 branch.

The following files would apparently get clean automatic merges of the
changeset that adds postgresql support to branches/4.2:

 $ svn merge --dry-run
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5305
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5306 |
 grep 'U  ' 
 U    modules/Reports/SaveReportFolder.php
 U    modules/Reports/Save.php
 U    modules/Reports/Reports.php
 U    modules/Settings/SaveConvertLead.php
 U    modules/Settings/DeleteCustomField.php
 U    modules/Settings/UpdateComboValues.php
 U    modules/Users/User.php
 U    modules/Users/massdelete.php
 U    modules/Users/updateLeadDBStatus.php
 U    modules/Calendar/appointment.pinc
 U    modules/Import/UsersLastImport.php
 U    include/database/PearDatabase.php
 U    schema/DatabaseSchema.xml

This definitely doesn't mean complete support (in these files) for
postgresql, only that the changesets from the branch would cleanly merge
to the trunk without additional effort.

These (many) other files would have conflict lines added to the source.
This would definitely bring PHP syntax breakage, and require immediate
attention to resolve the conflicts before the code would even run again:

 $ svn merge --dry-run
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5305
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5306 |
 grep 'C  '
 C    config.inc.php
 C    modules/Accounts/ListViewTop.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Account.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Popup_picker.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Popup.php
 C    modules/Accounts/ListView.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Quote.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Delete.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Popup.php
 C    modules/Quotes/ListView.php
 C    modules/Potentials/Popup.php
 C    modules/Potentials/ListView.php
 C    modules/Potentials/Opportunity.php
 C    modules/Leads/Popup.php
 C    modules/Leads/Lead.php
 C    modules/Leads/ListView.php
 C    modules/Leads/LeadConvertToEntities.php
 C    modules/Home/UnifiedSearch.php
 C    modules/Notes/Delete.php
 C    modules/Notes/ListView.php
 C    modules/Invoice/Invoice.php
 C    modules/Invoice/ListView.php
 C    modules/Reports/ReportRun.php
 C    modules/Reports/PopulateReports.php
 C    modules/HelpDesk/HelpDesk.php
 C    modules/HelpDesk/ListView.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveProfile.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveOrgSharing.php
 C    modules/Users/LoginHistory.php
 C    modules/Users/saveemailtemplate.php
 C    modules/Users/ListView.php
 C    modules/Users/Security.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveRole.php
 C    modules/Products/Popup.php
 C    modules/Products/AddProductsToPriceBook.php
 C    modules/Products/ListView.php
 C    modules/Products/Delete.php
 C    modules/Products/Product.php
 C    modules/Activities/Activity.php
 C    modules/Activities/ListView.php
 C    modules/Activities/RenderRelatedListUI.php
 C    modules/Activities/OpenListView.php
 C    modules/CustomView/Save.php
 C    modules/CustomView/CustomView.php
 C    modules/Faq/ListView.php
 C    modules/uploads/add2db.php
 C    modules/Emails/Email.php
 C    modules/Emails/ListView.php
 C    modules/Contacts/Contact.php
 C    modules/Contacts/Popup.php
 C    modules/Contacts/ListView.php
 C    data/CRMEntity.php
 C    data/SugarBean.php
 C    include/RelatedListView.php
 C    include/PopulateComboValues.php
 C    install/5createTables.inc.php
 C    install/4createConfigFile.php
 C    install/1checkSystem.php
 C    install/2setConfig.php
 C    install/populateSeedData.php
 C    install/3confirmConfig.php
 C    adodb/adodb.inc.php
 C    adodb/adodb-lib.inc.php
 C    adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php

There are a few skipped files, due to move, rename or removal in trunk.

Again, merging and subsequently resolving these many conflicts would by no
means imply completed postgresql support for the trunk.

However, any approach that brings the trunk and maintained branches closer
together would be a positive thing.

Once vtigercrm-5.0.0 is in production, certainly people will want to
back-port selected features, and forward-port bug fixes during the long
lifecycle of the vtigercrm-4.2.x series. Minimizing diffs between
branches always makes that process easier.

Just FYI. I don't think this merge (except for the 'U' files) would do
any good at this point. Allan can probably move through the trunk codebase
quicker with his method.


Note: svn revert doesn't undo conflict messages AFAICT. If you try this
merge without the --dry-run option, be prepared to check out a fresh trunk
working copy after you are done examining the results.



From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Thu Apr 27 23:14:14 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:14:14 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
	this	help?
In-Reply-To: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAn3Ohn2d+IU+m4J2aYwsDTQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Saint,

 

It could be a useful feature, especially knowing that user can have an
action on an object without leaving the context of this object.

It will be more useful if you do the same thing on a listview. SAP has
introduced that naming it ?drag & activate?. Suppose you are on a customer
listview, you drag a customer line over  invoice menu line and you get
invoices listview for this customer. This can be extended almost everywhere.

 

May be I am wrong, but I think also that it is not very difficult to
implement because it can be a general template.

 

Another idea is that with such feature we are not very far from workflow
management.

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Saint
Envoy? : jeudi 27 avril 2006 18:45
? : LANCER : Developers List
Objet : [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will this
help?

 

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do you
think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience? 

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can generate
an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar quotes using
the information of that particular quote like account name, potential name,
address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, you
cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining to that
product etc. 


regards,
Saint




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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Sat Apr 29 04:18:40 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:18:40 +0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5
In-Reply-To: <10adb8879c7.-4170929643010971357.7693297806886073293@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <001001c66b65$8da86490$6364a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hello Richie,

 

I am not sure about the approach taken, but would it happen to be based on
language files? If so, publishing the language file template would be a
start for volunteers to begin localization work?

 

  _____  

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of
Richie
Sent: 27 April 2006 20:28
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5

 

Hello!

We have not made much progress in v5 with respect to the muli-language
support.
We need help. 

Please do suggest approaches for the same as well.

We had been initially working on mikecrowe's contribution but we are not
able to get
in touch with him for sometime now so the job is still incomplete.

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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Sat Apr 29 04:18:40 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:18:40 +0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
	thishelp?
In-Reply-To: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <001801c66b65$97492520$6364a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hello team,

 

I would like to add my observation on this "Detailed View".

 

Before this is rolled out "all out", I believe the more important thing is
that this would be one of the beginning steps of Sales Automation, this
example would aptly be the "order progress". I would see this screen being
particularly useful for Account Executives and Field Sales:

 

*	Able to check on previous orders from this client; if a "quick
notes" section that can list out some user configurable details such as
"Last order date", "Last order size", "Any outstanding cases", etc on the
right column just above the "Actions" would be a great assistance. 
*	Able to pull data seamlessly from all modules (ie. Price book, terms
and conditions from existing options) without needing to "right-click and
open" other tabs.

 

An enhanced version for management purposes would be to allow all detailed
views to open up as below, including those that are "done" so as to do
checking. Versioning for any adjustments and auto-numbering (with reference
on who adjusted what) would be important also in this screen.

 

Finally I certainly do hope that this would set the fundamental workflow
system in place for the workflow module!

 

  _____  

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Saint
Sent: 27 April 2006 23:45
To: LANCER : Developers List
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
thishelp?

 

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do you
think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience? 

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can generate
an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar quotes using
the information of that particular quote like account name, potential name,
address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, you
cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining to that
product etc. 


regards,
Saint



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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr  3 07:15:46 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:15:46 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <10a507fa4a9.3228964008498662867.8913703528505651198@@vtiger.com>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>	<49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
	<10a507fa4a9.3228964008498662867.8913703528505651198@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443103E2.9090300@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi,
because i have often discussions with Richie, i can tell : the vtiger 
team is really open and listen users. If you really test vtiger 5, you 
can see the alpha version as less bug than 4.2.3.
An exemple on vtiger crm 4.x, if you have a lead with description 
contain " or ', when convert, you loose the data (you don't loose 
really, but the lead is marked as deleted, and no account created), it's 
now correct, and vtiger crm is still in alpha. I have a lot of other 
exemple, if you create a customview, with custom field, you obtain an 
sql error, in 5 alpha, that work.

No free critics, like we say in france, easy to critic, difficult to do.
Telling vtiger crm is not 100% translatable is honest, all can see that 
and know that, telling vtiger team do not follow the community is not 
justice.

Sak, Juao, Adlibweb, we can joint Kleo efforts 
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5773.

To Saint, have look to the screenshot, some layers are missplaced 
(settings1.gif), and require mouse action to be see. On the 
settings2.gif, can you increase the layer size ?
The fader effect in "my account" is really cool.

To Richie, i have a problem with company info, if i use ', nothing is 
saved, my search on files SaveCompany.php and add2db.php give nothing.
I can spend a part of my nights and week-end to "unharcode" v5 during 
beta phases, please explain the difference between {$MOD.STRINGS} and 
{CMOD.STRINGS}.
Thanks,
A?ssa
 

Richie a ?crit :

> That, is not the exact fact.
> We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues 
> at our end. Once we resolve those,
> we will have it integrated into the product.
>
> /sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time.
> internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we 
> have been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see 
> for everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. 
> Every contribution is important to us and we try hard to
> do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to 
> integrate all of them quickly.
> MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have
> worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the 
> issues. We still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon 
> with his help.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ----
>
>     once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using
>     gettext,
>     is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(
>
>     /sak
>
>     On 3/31/06, adlibweb <info at adlibweb.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > ----- Original Message -----
>     > From: Joao Oliveira
>     > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>     > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
>     > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for
>     other lang
>     >
>     > Hello all,
>     >
>     > I totally agree with you A?ssa.
>     > I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries)
>     vtiger will
>     > loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>     >
>     > If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good
>     time to review
>     > all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>     >
>     > Best Regards
>     > Jo?o Oliveira.
>     >
>     >
>     > On 3/31/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
>     > > Hi team,
>     > > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think
>     about other
>     > > lang for release.
>     > >
>     > > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
>     > english.
>     > >
>     > > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link
>     too, so the
>     > > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
>     > >
>     > > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for
>     translaters.
>     > >
>     > > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
>     > >
>     > > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english
>     date format
>     > > here, in some others country we use different format (for
>     france, it's
>     > > Day month year).
>     > >
>     > > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call,
>     Meeting... Alway
>     > > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded
>     string as
>     > > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of
>     expectations on
>     > > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is
>     on beta
>     > > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after
>     feedback i open
>     > > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial
>     papers, and
>     > > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
>     > >
>     > > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
>     > > A?ssa
>     > >
>     > > .
>     > >
>     > >
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr  3 07:23:56 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:23:56 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] To the vtiger 4.2.4 mainteneers
Message-ID: <443105CC.8070807@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
in 4.x branches (the 5.x branches work correctly), when we create a 
customview with customfields, we obtain an peardatabase error this is a 
beginning of fix posted by raccoon on french forum :

on utils.php search for :
function getListQuery($module,$where='')

replace the query :
$query = "select crmentity.*, quotes.*, quotesbillads.*, 
quotesshipads.*,potential.potentialname,account.accountname from quotes 
inner join crmentity on crmentity.crmid=quotes.quoteid inner join 
quotesbillads on quotes.quoteid=quotesbillads.quotebilladdressid inner 
join quotesshipads on quotes.quoteid=quotesshipads.quoteshipaddressid 
left outer join account on account.accountid=quotes.accountid left outer 
join potential on potential.potentialid=quotes.potentialid where 
crmentity.deleted=0".$where;

by this one :
( left join quotescf on quotes.quoteid = quotescf.quoteid added for 
module quotes)

$query = "select crmentity.*, quotes.*, quotesbillads.*, 
quotesshipads.*,potential.potentialname,account.accountname from quotes 
inner join crmentity on crmentity.crmid=quotes.quoteid inner join 
quotesbillads on quotes.quoteid=quotesbillads.quotebilladdressid inner 
join quotesshipads on quotes.quoteid=quotesshipads.quoteshipaddressid 
left outer join account on account.accountid=quotes.accountid left outer 
join potential on potential.potentialid=quotes.potentialid left join 
quotescf on quotes.quoteid = quotescf.quoteid where crmentity.deleted=0 
".$where;


in v5, you can find the query in /includes/utils/ListViewUtils.php.
Thanks


From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Tue Apr  4 02:02:24 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 23:02:24 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed
In-Reply-To: <44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.03.21.18.48.23.560464@yahoo.com>
	<44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone out there testing this?

I've run all my tests and don't see any other problems with postgres
and I've given it a quick run through with mysql (again without
problems).

I'm sure there are still a few issues which could be found with more
eyes, but I'd say the changes are ready to be merged back into the
trunk as soon as 4.2.4 is created (any eta on this?).

It may be beneficial to leave the adodb debugging information in (see
ticket #69) until we get closer to the next release (4.2.5) as I find
it to be a huge help in tracking down (database) problems.

On 3/21/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
> > Allan Bush wrote:
> >
> >> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the
> >> installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent,
> >> now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs.
> >>
> >
> > Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an
> > install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't
> > noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful
> > contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger.
> >
> > I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in
> > postgresql).
> Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance.
>
> Mike
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Tue Apr  4 07:02:08 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:02:08 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com>	<pan.2006.03.21.18.48.23.560464@yahoo.com>	<44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
	<3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44325230.4000603@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi allan,
i'm testing with postgre 8.1.
for the moment, i have only (lots) errors messages during install, but 
all is working during use, table are correctly created...
I continue the test.
Cheer,
A?ssa
Allan Bush a ?crit :

>Is anyone out there testing this?
>
>I've run all my tests and don't see any other problems with postgres
>and I've given it a quick run through with mysql (again without
>problems).
>
>I'm sure there are still a few issues which could be found with more
>eyes, but I'd say the changes are ready to be merged back into the
>trunk as soon as 4.2.4 is created (any eta on this?).
>
>It may be beneficial to leave the adodb debugging information in (see
>ticket #69) until we get closer to the next release (4.2.5) as I find
>it to be a huge help in tracking down (database) problems.
>
>On 3/21/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Allan Bush wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the
>>>>installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent,
>>>>now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an
>>>install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't
>>>noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful
>>>contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger.
>>>
>>>I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in
>>>postgresql).
>>>      
>>>
>>Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance.
>>
>>Mike
>>_______________________________________________
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>>
>>    
>>
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From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr  4 21:50:48 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:50:48 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
Message-ID: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>

Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?

What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?

Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean 
on the field table?

mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
+--------------------------------------------------+
| typeofdata                                       |
+--------------------------------------------------+
| V~M                                              |
| V~O                                              |
| I~O                                              |
| E~O                                              |
| C~O                                              |
| T~O                                              |
| D~O                                              |
| D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
| N~O                                              |
| D~M                                              |
| D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
| D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
| DT~M~time_start                                  |
| D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
| O~O                                              |
| T~M                                              |
| I~M                                              |
+--------------------------------------------------+
This just confuses the hell out of me.


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Wed Apr  5 00:30:30 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:30:30 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
In-Reply-To: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA6FaibYlvB0uuS3YI5vyrpQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Josh,

I have not the answer and I asked for explanation 2 month ago. I don't think
there is any, it is more probably some remaining thing from sugarcrm.

I worked a bit on that when migrating to mssql and found that it has to be
combined with uitype field:

 ("D","I","N")  are numeric, ("C","E","O") are not,
 "V" is numeric if uitype in (5,50,52,53,56,57)
 exceptions : tablename="contactdetails" columname="reportsto" uitype=57 ?
 "T" is numeric if uitype = 70

Not sure it helps, isn't it?

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Josh Lee
> Envoy??: mercredi 5 avril 2006 03:51
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com; vtigercrm-
> contributors at lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc?: Jeremy Lowery
> Objet?: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
> 
> Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?
> 
> What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?
> 
> Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean
> on the field table?
> 
> mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | typeofdata                                       |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | V~M                                              |
> | V~O                                              |
> | I~O                                              |
> | E~O                                              |
> | C~O                                              |
> | T~O                                              |
> | D~O                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
> | N~O                                              |
> | D~M                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
> | DT~M~time_start                                  |
> | D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
> | O~O                                              |
> | T~M                                              |
> | I~M                                              |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> This just confuses the hell out of me.
> 
> 
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net





From nolan at peaceworks.ca  Wed Apr  5 04:09:22 2006
From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:09:22 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
In-Reply-To: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
References: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44337B32.7050202@peaceworks.ca>

"O" / "M" seems to mean Optional vs. Mandatory

(M means a required field, and gets the little red star)

I haven't investigated the V/E/I/C/T stuff too much, yet...when creating 
my own fields, I've just mimicked something existing that's similar to 
what I want...

peace,
Nokes


Josh Lee wrote:
> Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?
> 
> What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?
> 
> Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean 
> on the field table?
> 
> mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | typeofdata                                       |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | V~M                                              |
> | V~O                                              |
> | I~O                                              |
> | E~O                                              |
> | C~O                                              |
> | T~O                                              |
> | D~O                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
> | N~O                                              |
> | D~M                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
> | DT~M~time_start                                  |
> | D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
> | O~O                                              |
> | T~M                                              |
> | I~M                                              |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> This just confuses the hell out of me.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Apr  6 09:33:22 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:03:22 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
Message-ID: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>

Guys,

Need your quick help.

We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into one 
UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send mails 
using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming list, 
pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category called 
"Qualified CRM emails".

I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a single 
tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the Inbox tree. 
Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable UI based on 
your views.

- Saint


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From jlee at zertis.net  Thu Apr  6 10:10:42 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:10:42 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>

I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I 
wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail 
for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
Saint wrote:

> Guys,
>
> Need your quick help.
>
> We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into 
> one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send 
> mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming 
> list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category 
> called "Qualified CRM emails".
>
> I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
> version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a 
> single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the 
> Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable 
> UI based on your views.
>
> - Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 10:42:07 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:42:07 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>

I have to agree with Josh,

I like the second one better.   Tabs can be a good thing, or if over used,
can be a bad thing.    The second one is a cleaner, better flow look.

Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it
don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it.


Jamie


On 4/6/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
> wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
> for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > Need your quick help.
> >
> > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into
> > one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
> > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> > called "Qualified CRM emails".
> >
> > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab
> > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the
> > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable
> > UI based on your views.
> >
> > - Saint
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 10:59:52 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:59:52 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>

saint, I also like the 2nd option,

but why not let do that job to the mail server ?

I mean, you just create a "CRM" folder in the mail store (be it pop3
or imap) and be done with that !

you still have to show all the folders, so this way, you knock two
birds with one stone.


/sak

On 4/6/06, Jamie Jackson <jamieinnh at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have to agree with Josh,
>
> I like the second one better.   Tabs can be a good thing, or if over used,
> can be a bad thing.    The second one is a cleaner, better flow look.
>
> Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it
> don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it.
>
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
> On 4/6/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> > I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
> > wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
> > for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > Need your quick help.
> > >
> > > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into
> > > one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
> > > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> > > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> > > called "Qualified CRM emails".
> > >
> > > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab
> > > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> > > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the
> > > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable
> > > UI based on your views.
> > >
> > > - Saint
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From larenas at internext.com.mx  Thu Apr  6 04:39:48 2006
From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:39:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I suggest a change on SaveSalesorder.php
In-Reply-To: <49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
	<44352162.6040504@zertis.net>	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4434D3D4.9050804@internext.com.mx>

foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val)
{
       
        if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname]))
   {
       $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname];
       $match = stristr($fieldname,'id');
     ***** NEW LINEs*****
       if($match != '0' && empty($value))$value = '0';
      elseif($match == '0' && empty($value)) $value = 'null';
          
        
         
        //echo '<BR>';
       //echo $fieldname."         ".$value;
       //echo '<BR>';
       $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value;
   }
       
}




From developer at infointegrated.com  Thu Apr  6 14:44:35 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:44:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>



I also agree about the second one defintely being the preferred layout. I
would still use webmail with POP, though I would also prefer IMAP
support.

Brian


 I
have to agree with Josh,

I like the second one better.   Tabs
can be a good thing, or if over used, can be a bad thing.    The second
one is a cleaner, better flow look.

Also, with the question of
IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it don't or won't use IMAP,
then I wouldn't use it.    


Jamie



On 4/6/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net>
wrote: I like
the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
wouldn't
use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
for
it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
Saint wrote: 

> Guys,
>
> Need your quick
help.
>
> We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and
Email accessibility into
> one UI.
>From a single UI, you can
receive all your POP mails and send
 > mails using SMTP. And if
there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> list, pertaining
to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> called
"Qualified CRM emails".
>
> I have attached two
images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
> version: "All
Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into
the
> Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the
best usable 
> UI based on your views.
>
> -
Saint
>
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------

>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored
by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper &
palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
Planner for FREE instead!  http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>


--
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net 



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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Thu Apr  6 15:51:00 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:51:00 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
Message-ID: <1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>

It supports every protocol that's handled by the PHP IMAP functions
which includes POP and IMAP (i havent tested POP yet).

Matt

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:44 -0500, Brian Devendorf wrote:
> I also agree about the second one defintely being the preferred
> layout. I would still use webmail with POP, though I would also prefer
> IMAP support.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> I have to agree with Josh,
> 
> I like the second one better. Tabs can be a good thing, or if over
> used, can be a bad thing. The second one is a cleaner, better flow
> look.
> 
> Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one. if
> it don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it. 
> 
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> On 4/6/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>         I like the second one more, however if it does not support
>         IMAP, I
>         wouldn't use it. I was under the impression that vtiger used
>         squirlmail
>         for it's email backed. If that is true, then it should support
>         IMAP.
>         Saint wrote: 
>         
>         > Guys,
>         >
>         > Need your quick help.
>         >
>         > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email
>         accessibility into
>         > one UI.
>         From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
>         > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in
>         that incoming
>         > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a
>         category
>         > called "Qualified CRM emails".
>         >
>         > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin
>         tab 
>         > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another
>         is a
>         > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed
>         into the
>         > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the
>         best usable 
>         > UI based on your views.
>         >
>         > - Saint
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>         >
>         >------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         >
>         >_______________________________________________
>         >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
>         scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your
>         hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
>         Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>         >
>         
>         
>         --
>         Josh Lee
>         Software Engineer
>         Zertis Technologies, LLC
>         205.422.5279
>         jlee at zertis.net 
>         
>         
>         
>         _______________________________________________
>         This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
>         scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your
>         hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
>         Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>         
>         
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From larenas at internext.com.mx  Thu Apr  6 11:03:50 2006
From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:03:50 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Some body can send me a how-to integrate
	webmail on vtiger
Message-ID: <44352DD6.5080207@internext.com.mx>

Please, l'd like know how i can integrate webmail on crm.


From libregeek at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 02:24:48 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:54:48 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
	<1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <2315046d0604062324j7407b608m5068d79c3b6840b4@mail.gmail.com>

Saint,
  I do agree with Sergio's suggestion. I would like to use IMAP and
use the same folder structure in the server. In the case of UI, I
would like to use the second one, because it's less cluttered.

regards
Manilal



From richie at vtiger.com  Fri Apr  7 02:59:35 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie at vtiger.com)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:59:35 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Security Document
Message-ID: <10a7326101c.3472802742984349963.194233641965351292@@vtiger.com>

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From pigeonflight at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 09:38:54 2006
From: pigeonflight at gmail.com (david bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:38:54 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
Message-ID: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>

I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan to
dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2 years. I
would like to accomplish the following:


   - be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
   based on type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
   use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig
   to be able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to
   authorize this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send
   message to hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since
   a normal customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
    - master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and
   required completion time
   use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
   them outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
   overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
   - ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
   use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
   how many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
   resolved based on predetermined completion times
   - call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
   number of calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
   - talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
   additional customer data stored on a different server and then store that
   data locally in the vTiger database.
   use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
   an external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
   with the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased
   and the time of purchase and failed purchases)

I'm especially interested in how much of this can already be accomplished in
vTiger and whether the balance can realistically be accomplished in 5
dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer hours and lots of posts to the mailing
list/discussion boards etc..)
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From david.bain at alteroo.com  Fri Apr  7 11:49:43 2006
From: david.bain at alteroo.com (David Bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:49:43 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha
Message-ID: <f433ff170604070849y59485a1fw1457fb72ab8c576d@mail.gmail.com>

for a new role out of vtiger (translation) in the next 2 weeks, should we be
considering 4.x or 5 alpha release.
What are the pros and cons?
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 14:32:02 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:32:02 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)

just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
can...

/sak

On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan to
> dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2 years. I
> would like to accomplish the following:
>
>
>
> be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager based on
> type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
>  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to be
> able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message to
> hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a normal
> customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
>
> master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> completion time
>  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows them
> outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
>
> ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
>  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see how
> many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> resolved based on predetermined completion times
>
> call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the number of
> calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> additional customer data stored on a different server and then store that
> data locally in the vTiger database.
>  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on an
> external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself with
> the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the time
> of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much of
> this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer hours
> and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>



From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 14:34:27 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:34:27 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] mike ?
Message-ID: <49216030604071134l4cc50173ja086c0cba39d0281@mail.gmail.com>

what happened to mike fedyk ?
it seems like he dissapeared...

/sak



From david.bain at alteroo.com  Fri Apr  7 14:52:42 2006
From: david.bain at alteroo.com (David Bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:52:42 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>

Is that a general comment about SOAP or is it related to php and SOAP? Bear
in mind that it would be vtiger acting as a SOAP client. The provider of the
webservice is running a .net platform, I'm not well informed about how
easily they could roll out a REST based solution.

How much of the stuff is already there in vtiger?
If 5 days (40 hours) is too little.
What is a more realistic estimate?

On 4/7/06, Sergio A. Kessler <sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)
>
> just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
> will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
> can...
>
> /sak
>
> On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan
> to
> > dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> > experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2
> years. I
> > would like to accomplish the following:
> >
> >
> >
> > be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
> based on
> > type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
> >  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to
> be
> > able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> > this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message
> to
> > hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a
> normal
> > customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
> >
> > master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> > completion time
> >  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
> them
> > outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> > overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
> >
> > ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
> >  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
> how
> > many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> > resolved based on predetermined completion times
> >
> > call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
> number of
> > calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> > talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> > additional customer data stored on a different server and then store
> that
> > data locally in the vTiger database.
> >  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
> an
> > external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
> with
> > the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the
> time
> > of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much
> of
> > this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> > realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer
> hours
> > and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From werk at r2g.nl  Fri Apr  7 15:21:43 2006
From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 21:21:43 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604070849y59485a1fw1457fb72ab8c576d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEFLCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>

David,

Why are you asking this? As programmer you should also know de answer as I'm
only a heavy user: the choice between an alpha and stable version for
translation?
Or are you considering the change of hard coded items to strings used for
multiple languages?

Regards, Remco


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  Verzonden: vrijdag 7 april 2006 17:50
  Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
  Onderwerp: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha


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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 16:26:54 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:26:54 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
	<f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604071326l6c0f4a49q4d1705c9232ef85e@mail.gmail.com>

a general comment about SOAP (I couldn't resist).

REST is orders of magnitude more simple (debugging is trivial), and
you only need a xml parser and support for http calls, and I bet that
.net has that.

/sak

On 4/7/06, David Bain <david.bain at alteroo.com> wrote:
> Is that a general comment about SOAP or is it related to php and SOAP? Bear
> in mind that it would be vtiger acting as a SOAP client. The provider of the
> webservice is running a .net platform, I'm not well informed about how
> easily they could roll out a REST based solution.
>
>  How much of the stuff is already there in vtiger?
>  If 5 days (40 hours) is too little.
>  What is a more realistic estimate?
>
>
> On 4/7/06, Sergio A. Kessler <sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)
> >
> > just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
> > will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
> > can...
> >
> > /sak
> >
> > On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan
> to
> > > dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> > > experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2
> years. I
> > > would like to accomplish the following:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
> based on
> > > type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
> > >  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to
> be
> > > able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> > > this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message
> to
> > > hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a
> normal
> > > customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
> > >
> > > master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> > > completion time
> > >  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
> them
> > > outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> > > overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
> > >
> > > ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
> > >  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
> how
> > > many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> > > resolved based on predetermined completion times
> > >
> > > call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
> number of
> > > calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> > > talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> > > additional customer data stored on a different server and then store
> that
> > > data locally in the vTiger database.
> > >  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
> an
> > > external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
> with
> > > the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the
> time
> > > of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much
> of
> > > this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> > > realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer
> hours
> > > and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
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From brian at pr2k.com  Fri Apr  7 16:22:19 2006
From: brian at pr2k.com (Brian Laughlin)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:22:19 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers]  mike ?
Message-ID: <27CABE0A5EFD714EA5B2F9B47EE5CB855BC4F9@svawmc1.awnow.local>

 

what happened to mike fedyk ?
it seems like he dissapeared...

/sak

I IM him not too long ago.  He's dealing with a few things and said that
he should be in the swing of things shortly.

/BrianLaughlin



From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Sun Apr  9 23:31:38 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 23:31:38 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration Tools
Message-ID: <994473020604092031x3f94f99ev2b40de2ce24d4721@mail.gmail.com>

I know this was discussed before, but is anyone seeing all the requests to
migrate from Sugar to vTiger?   Is there a tool that works with their latest
version?

Jamie
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From richie at vtiger.com  Mon Apr 10 00:17:29 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie at vtiger.com)
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:17:29 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
Message-ID: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>

Hi!

Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been included.
The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.

Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it admirably.
I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we had earlier.
Bravo Michel!

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Mon Apr 10 03:24:53 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:24:53 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Font support in Image Graph
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi all,

 

We are able to supply true type fonts thru Image Graph bundle.

Does anybody have some knowledge on font copyrights?

Is there a site where to find this kind of info?

Are Linux ttf files the same than windows?

 

Michel

 

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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr 10 05:54:50 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:54:50 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Font support in Image Graph
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <443A2B6A.9000409@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Michel,
i think you can use bitstream vera fonts, the ttf files are the same for 
linux & windows.
The copyright allow to modify and redistribute.
You can find the copyright here : http://www.gnome.org/fonts/
Bitstream vera fonts are bundled with gnome, kde, openoffice... and lot 
of others freesoftware.
Thanks for your work on graph.
A?ssa.

Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit :

> Hi all,
>
>  
>
> We are able to supply true type fonts thru Image Graph bundle.
>
> Does anybody have some knowledge on font copyrights?
>
> Is there a site where to find this kind of info?
>
> Are Linux ttf files the same than windows?
>
>  
>
> Michel
>
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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From libregeek at gmail.com  Mon Apr 10 06:53:54 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:23:54 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for vtiger-5
Message-ID: <2315046d0604100353h6a0b7a4by98866e36cf944af5@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,
   I'm not sure where to post the patches for vtiger5. Should I use
the Code Contributions to vtiger-5?
However I have submitted some simple patches to the Announcement
forum. The link to the forum is
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23176#23176

I have only very little experience in hacking vtiger. I think these
patches will be useful for the community.

regards
Manilal



From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr 11 17:26:10 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:26:10 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>

I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation 
with all of you.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr 11 17:32:55 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:32:55 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Develpler guide.
In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <443C2087.60007@zertis.net>

Ah, I forgot to give Mike Crrowe credit on part of that Developer guide.
Some of that was a copy paste off of his blog, sorry Mike.  Your name 
will be in the next version.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 11 23:40:25 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:40:25 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAApvPJDzh/BUutqtxOWCvg8QEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Josh, congratulations! You started a great job.
I will do my part on dashboard guide.

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Josh Lee
> Envoy??: mardi 11 avril 2006 23:26
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
> 
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation
> with all of you.
> 
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net





From dan.means at teamsrs.com  Wed Apr 12 01:08:02 2006
From: dan.means at teamsrs.com (Dan Means)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:08:02 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <443C8B32.3010600@teamsrs.com>

Great job Josh -- I've been scribbling lots of this stuff down moding up 
the sales order modules -- if I can contribute let me know.

I've managed to get a lot of extra fields into the various blocks, 
mostly in the products section (my client has lots of warehouses / 
locations)....

Josh Lee wrote:
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this 
> documentation with all of you.
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 

-- 
Dan Means
Mission Viejo, CA
www.dkmeansonline.com
www.teamsrs.com



From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 11 19:27:13 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:27:13 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>

What application can I use to open the *vTigerCRM Notes.odt*
 file?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/11/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation
> with all of you.
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Wed Apr 12 01:51:16 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:51:16 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
	<677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443C9554.2080303@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Jorge,
use openoffice 2

Jorge Garifuna a ?crit :

> What application can I use to open the *vTigerCRM Notes.odt*
>  file?
>  
> -- 
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com
>
>  
> On 4/11/06, *Josh Lee* <jlee at zertis.net <mailto:jlee at zertis.net>> wrote:
>
>     I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
>     Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this
>     documentation
>     with all of you.
>
>     --
>     Josh Lee
>     Software Engineer
>     Zertis Technologies, LLC
>     205.422.5279
>     jlee at zertis.net <mailto:jlee at zertis.net>
>
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com> email is sponsored by Zoho
>     Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper &
>     palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer
>     online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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From richie at vtiger.com  Wed Apr 12 06:18:59 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie at vtiger.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:18:59 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP Optimizer to use?
Message-ID: <10a8d9c6b1c.-5546871847639394966.-7110740342565802342@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

I plan to use a php optimizer along with the product.
Which optimizer do you suggest that we use please?

APC
e-Accelerator
Zend
etc

Please note, it needs to be open source or something that permits us to bundle 
the same.

Richie
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From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Apr 12 07:12:25 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:12:25 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>

nice work josh.

i started similar project on http://vtiger.fosslabs.com wiki.
please add your document on the wiki, that help to do collaborative work to 
achieve developer guide goal.

side notes :
keep in mind that vtiger provide an API documentation using phpDocumentor and 
that our documents could fit nicely beside this documentation.
> As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a
> rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is
> doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form
> similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on
> accomplishing this task.

cheers,

Fathi


From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Apr 12 07:13:51 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:13:51 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>
References: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <200604121313.51946.fboudra@free.fr>

> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been included.
> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>
> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> had earlier. Bravo Michel!

congratulations !!!
thanks michel.


From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Wed Apr 12 08:45:58 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:45:58 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <200604121313.51946.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA37V09tggw02w/ZNLgnIk1wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

You're welcome Fathi

Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
Hi Mike, what do we do?

Michel
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> Envoy??: mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> 
> > Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> included.
> > The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >
> > Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> > admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> > had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> 
> congratulations !!!
> thanks michel.
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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From werk at r2g.nl  Wed Apr 12 09:06:16 2006
From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:06:16 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA37V09tggw02w/ZNLgnIk1wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>

Hi Mike,

I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new in
vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.

Regrads,

Remco


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
JACQUEMES
Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced


You're welcome Fathi

Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
Hi Mike, what do we do?

Michel
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> Envoy??: mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
> > Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> included.
> > The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >
> > Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> > admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> > had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>
> congratulations !!!
> thanks michel.
> _______________________________________________
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> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 09:35:08 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:35:08 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP Optimizer to use?
In-Reply-To: <-293363331911076467@unknownmsgid>
References: <-293363331911076467@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030604120635p53b44badi7df5dd0ee2514c8a@mail.gmail.com>

AFAIK, APC is the only open source one, that is mantained...
(and the APC mantainer is rasmus, the same guy that created php)

/sak

On 4/12/06, richie at vtiger.com <richie at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I plan to use a php optimizer along with the product.
> Which optimizer do you suggest that we use please?
>
> APC
> e-Accelerator
> Zend
> etc
>
> Please note, it needs to be open source or something
> that permits us to bundle
> the same.
>
> Richie
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
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From don at vtiger.com  Wed Apr 12 10:58:08 2006
From: don at vtiger.com (don at vtiger.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:58:08 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 11:40:09 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>

Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 11:40:09 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>

Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 12:17:14 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:17:14 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net> <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <443D280A.40700@zertis.net>

Here is an updated version.

Fathi, I understand how a wiki works, however I don't see an edit link.  
Do I have to be logged in?  If so where do I sign up? 

Side note, if you guys send me whatever notes you have in MSWord, 
OpenOffice or even txt I will do my best to add them into this.

Fathi Boudra wrote:

>nice work josh.
>
>i started similar project on http://vtiger.fosslabs.com wiki.
>please add your document on the wiki, that help to do collaborative work to 
>achieve developer guide goal.
>
>side notes :
>keep in mind that vtiger provide an API documentation using phpDocumentor and 
>that our documents could fit nicely beside this documentation.
>  
>
>>As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a
>>rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is
>>doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form
>>similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on
>>accomplishing this task.
>>    
>>
>
>cheers,
>
>Fathi
>_______________________________________________
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>  
>


-- 
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Software Engineer
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205.422.5279
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From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 15:19:14 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:19:14 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger CRM Develper Guide.
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References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443D52B2.7010505@zertis.net>

Ok, this is getting silly, I am updating this thing way to often, I need 
to put it in svn somewhere.
Fathi could you set this up for me?  Could you create a usename jlee and 
email me a password using your svn repository for this thing?

Here is another updated version.


-- 
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Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Wed Apr 12 15:55:09 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:55:09 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>

Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):

*	
	PHP 5+
*	
	MySQL 5.1+
*	
	Apache 2+ (??)

...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
 
On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
 
Regards,
 
- Joel

________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status



Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
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>

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From jtk at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 12 16:47:37 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:47:37 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.12.20.47.34.148836@yahoo.com>

Joel Rydbeck wrote:
> Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand
> vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I
> realize right now these are requirements):
(...)
> I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been
> some commitment to supporting that down the road.

I think it would be a huge mistake to promote vtigercrm-5.0.0 from alpha
beta status without merging postgresql support similar to that found in
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration.

Postgresql support from the start is a serious requirement. AFAICT, the
decision for a user to deploy vtigercrm on either mysql or postgresql is
one-way and permanent, I don't think there are any migration tools being
offered here to reliably handle a conversion as complex as a fully
populated vtigercrm dataset.

We are keeping the diff on that branch to the minimum required changes for
postgresql support a) to ease merging back to vtigercrm/branches/4.2
immediately after vtigercrm/branches/vtigercrm-4.2.4, and b) to make it
easier for the vtiger dev team to merge the same changes into the trunk
ASAP.

svn diff
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 (it's a long
diff, but consistent in its changes)



From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 16:52:04 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:52:04 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <443D6874.2020402@zertis.net>

I was unaware of PHP 5 requirements, as I am running vtiger5 on php4.

Joel Rydbeck wrote:

>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>
>*	
>	PHP 5+
>*	
>	MySQL 5.1+
>*	
>	Apache 2+ (??)
>
>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
> 
>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
> 
>Regards,
> 
>- Joel
>
>________________________________
>
>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>
>
>
>Don,
>
>That's very informative, thank you.
>
>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
>20-25 working days?
>
>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>
>Thanks
>
>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
>>This document will give an insight on the
>>features/fixes that we are currently
>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
>>is completed, we will be doing a full
>>scale validation and all
>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
>>of these issues based on severity and
>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>>
>>Thanks & Regards,
>>Don
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 17:36:14 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:36:14 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>

I think postgresql is a must,
I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...

and I'm not talking about features,
I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
from mysql, that's it)...

/sak

On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
> Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>
> *
>         PHP 5+
> *
>         MySQL 5.1+
> *
>         Apache 2+ (??)
>
> ...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
>
> On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
>
> Regards,
>
> - Joel
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
> Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>
>
>
> Don,
>
> That's very informative, thank you.
>
> Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
> understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
> full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
> 20-25 working days?
>
> I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
> would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>
> Thanks
>
> On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> > available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> > This document will give an insight on the
> > features/fixes that we are currently
> > working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> > Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> > is completed, we will be doing a full
> > scale validation and all
> > the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> > of these issues based on severity and
> > then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> > Don
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 17:50:12 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:50:12 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
	<49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>

:-/ Mysql "classic" is the version you get as a developer without paying 
a license.  If you want a license you can get mysql pro. 
http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/

Since vTigerCRM is open source, I believe vtiger falls into the GPL 
License for mysql.   Either way, it is completely free and from my 
understanding we don't need a license.

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>I think postgresql is a must,
>I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...
>
>and I'm not talking about features,
>I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
>from mysql, that's it)...
>
>/sak
>
>On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>>
>>*
>>        PHP 5+
>>*
>>        MySQL 5.1+
>>*
>>        Apache 2+ (??)
>>
>>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
>>
>>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>- Joel
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
>>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
>>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>>
>>
>>
>>Don,
>>
>>That's very informative, thank you.
>>
>>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
>>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
>>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
>>20-25 working days?
>>
>>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
>>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
>>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
>>>This document will give an insight on the
>>>features/fixes that we are currently
>>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
>>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
>>>is completed, we will be doing a full
>>>scale validation and all
>>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
>>>of these issues based on severity and
>>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>>>
>>>Thanks & Regards,
>>>Don
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
>>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>  
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 19:09:07 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:09:07 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
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yes, vtigerCrm is open source and the team or company behind it does
not need a mysql licence, that is clear.

but what happens when YOU start customizing it and deploy it to customers ?

"MySQL AB always recommends that proprietary (non-Free
Software/non-Open Source) use of MySQL be done with the commercial
non-GPL version of MySQL."

note the word "use"

/sak

On 4/12/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> :-/ Mysql "classic" is the version you get as a developer without paying
> a license.  If you want a license you can get mysql pro.
> http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/
>
> Since vTigerCRM is open source, I believe vtiger falls into the GPL
> License for mysql.   Either way, it is completely free and from my
> understanding we don't need a license.
>
> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
> >I think postgresql is a must,
> >I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...
> >
> >and I'm not talking about features,
> >I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
> >from mysql, that's it)...
> >
> >/sak
> >
> >On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
> >>
> >>*
> >>        PHP 5+
> >>*
> >>        MySQL 5.1+
> >>*
> >>        Apache 2+ (??)
> >>
> >>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
> >>
> >>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>- Joel
> >>
> >>________________________________
> >>
> >>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
> >>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
> >>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Don,
> >>
> >>That's very informative, thank you.
> >>
> >>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
> >>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
> >>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
> >>20-25 working days?
> >>
> >>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
> >>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> >>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> >>>This document will give an insight on the
> >>>features/fixes that we are currently
> >>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> >>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> >>>is completed, we will be doing a full
> >>>scale validation and all
> >>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> >>>of these issues based on severity and
> >>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks & Regards,
> >>>Don
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> >>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> >>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>



From saint at vtiger.com  Fri Apr 14 14:57:04 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:27:04 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
Message-ID: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>

Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and find 
your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.

The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.

The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in colored 
paper visuals.

I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most of 
the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.

Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)

Saint


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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Apr 14 15:25:07 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:25:07 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443FF713.1070902@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi saint,
nice work i like it.
Cool, professionnal, informative.
If you can, use it on 5.0.

A?ssa

Saint a ?crit :

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
>
> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
>
> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
> colored paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most 
> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
>
> Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>



From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 15:41:57 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:41:57 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>

I like it.
Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be 
interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.  
He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put 
in the home page from 4.2.3

Saint wrote:

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
>
> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
>
> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
> colored paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most 
> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
>
> Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 17:21:20 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:21:20 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 5 Alpha.
In-Reply-To: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44401250.6030900@zertis.net>

Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail view.
Simple probelm simple fix.

includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
At the bottom of the file change this:

    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
    {
        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
                $key1=$keys[0];
        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
        {
                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
                    $key2=$keys[0];
        }
        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
$label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
    }
    return $return_data;


To this:

    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
    {
       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
        $key1 = null;
        $key2 = null;
       // Done adding
        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
                $key1=$keys[0];
        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
        {
                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
                    $key2=$keys[0];
        }
        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
$label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
    }
    return $return_data;


Hope this helps!

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 22:36:24 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:36:24 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 4.2.3 Calendar bugfix.
In-Reply-To: <44401250.6030900@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<44401250.6030900@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44405C28.5090009@zertis.net>

4.2.3 Bugfix for calendar

calendar month around line 236

        else
        { // day overlaps by Fredy
            if ( $today == Date("Ymd",$ts)){
                $col = "ol-today";
            }
            else if ($wd == 6) {
                $col = "ol-holiday";
            }
          else if ($wd == 5) {
             $col = "ol-freeday";
                }
            else if ($xm != $m ) {
                $col = "ol-otherday";
            }
            else  {
                $col = "ol-appday";
            }
        }


Josh Lee wrote:

> Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail view.
> Simple probelm simple fix.
>
> includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
> At the bottom of the file change this:
>
>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>    {
>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>                $key1=$keys[0];
>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>        {
>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>        }
>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
> $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>    }
>    return $return_data;
>
>
> To this:
>
>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>    {
>       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
>        $key1 = null;
>        $key2 = null;
>       // Done adding
>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>                $key1=$keys[0];
>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>        {
>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>        }
>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
> $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>    }
>    return $return_data;
>
>
> Hope this helps!
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Fri Apr 14 23:34:13 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 05:34:13 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAqlIhhtjpX0yY09ug5zRMRQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Saint,

 

A good idea, I think, to have a layout disposal made of blocks.

Do you think it will be a heavy work to let the user choose in preferences
what information he wants to see in each block.

We have to have in mind that in some large companies people have different
functions. Sales manager won?t be interested in same information than store
manager, and so on.

 

About graphs, something I am beginning to know well :-), have in mind that
we can imagine something more sophisticated than what we have done till now.
Have a look at this page:

 

http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Saint
Envoy? : vendredi 14 avril 2006 20:57
? : LANCER : Developers List
Objet : [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

 

Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and find your
opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.

The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that weeks
historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.

The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in colored
paper visuals.

I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most of the
CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, modifications
etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement for what we have
currently - the spiral book type UI.

Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)

Saint



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From jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com  Fri Apr 14 16:39:45 2006
From: jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:39:45 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>

I think the interface looks nice.

I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing  link:

http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html

- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as
well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily
change the settings.

- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if
the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she
can easily have that option.


--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com

On 4/14/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I like it.
> Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
> interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.
> He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
> in the home page from 4.2.3
>
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and
> > find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
> >
> > The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> > The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> > The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
> > weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
> >
> > The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> > colored paper visuals.
> >
> > I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
> > of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts,
> > modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> > for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
> >
> > Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
> >
> > Saint
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
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From developer at infointegrated.com  Sat Apr 15 10:20:30 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:20:30 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>



I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to
select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic.
Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double
width, double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger
size. Also, the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or
have it based on screen size), 

I must say this is the best
home page implementation I have seen yet. Great work, Saint!

Brian



I think the interface looks nice.
 
I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if
it could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
wants.
 
- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing 
link:
 
http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html
 
- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable
as well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can
easily change the settings.
 
- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range
so if the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range)
he/she can easily have that option.
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 
 
On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net>
wrote: I
like it.
Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that
you all might be
interested to know that I have a client whom I
installed vtiger5 for. 
He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that
he is paying to have me put
in the home page from 4.2.3

Saint wrote:

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought
better, to give a shot and
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3
matrix idea for home page of vtiger. 
>
> The first row
shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows
Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but
a small graphical representation of that
> weeks historical data
about Leads, Potentials and Contacts. 
>
> The Upcoming
Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> colored
paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned
towards sales. But I believe most
> of the CRM installations
revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc.
Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> for what we
have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know,
even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
 >
>
Saint
>
>
>
>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sun Apr 16 17:53:36 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:53:36 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

== BLOAT

/sak



From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Mon Apr 17 00:13:55 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:13:55 +0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>

I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE. This
could have the following scenario:

- Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance (potentials,
closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.

- Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next to
each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.

Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
system a true CRM and MIS.

-----Original Message-----
From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of
Sergio A. Kessler
Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

== BLOAT

/sak

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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Mon Apr 17 04:00:50 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:00:50 +0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604170047s7935bca7ja151290634541449@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c661f5$0bd4e020$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hi Jorge,

 

The first attachment you put was more of a graphical workflow, certainly
something that should be attempted to be achieved with the bounty. However,
what I am referring to on the user customizable dashboard should have the
clear objective of "drag and drop" of whatever functions or information that
is needed AND that is accessible at the current user access level. It will
become something like a personal Content Management System where you can
self-determine the layout of whatever module and component output you need
for your individual needs.

 

  _____  

From: garifuna at gmail.com [mailto:garifuna at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jorge
Garifuna
Sent: 17 April 2006 15:48
To: ncknight at pacific.net.sg; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

 

Sorry, I forgot the attach the visual files for Quick Books Pro 2006 payment
interface.
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 


 

On 4/17/06, Jorge Garifuna <garifuna at gmail.com> wrote: 

I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
across many departments of a company. 

 

I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
"receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
particular invoice.  

 

For example a typical job contract may look like this:

10% due at job start

50% due within 3 days of starting point

40% due at job completion

 

If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
against the invoice:

 

1) $100

2) $500

3) $400

 

After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.


Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM 4.2
for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario explained
above is closely related to the real world.

 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  


 

On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg > wrote: 

I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE. This

could have the following scenario:

- Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance (potentials,
closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day. 

- Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next to
each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.

Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access 
Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
system a true CRM and MIS.

-----Original Message-----
From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com> ] On Behalf Of
Sergio A. Kessler
Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix .. 

On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna < jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com
<mailto:jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> > wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it 
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants. 

== BLOAT

/sak

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From garifuna at gmail.com  Mon Apr 17 03:46:06 2006
From: garifuna at gmail.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:46:06 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
References: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
	<000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
Message-ID: <677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
across many departments of a company.

I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
"receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
particular invoice.

For example a typical job contract may look like this:
10% due at job start
50% due within 3 days of starting point
40% due at job completion

If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
against the invoice:

1) $100
2) $500
3) $400

After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.

Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM
4.2for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario
explained
above is closely related to the real world.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>


On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg> wrote:
>
> I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
> users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE.
> This
> could have the following scenario:
>
> - Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
> leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance
> (potentials,
> closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.
>
> - Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next
> to
> each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
> potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.
>
> Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
> Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
> Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
> system a true CRM and MIS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com ] On Behalf Of
> Sergio A. Kessler
> Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
>
> On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think the interface looks nice.
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
>
> > could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
> wants.
>
> == BLOAT
>
> /sak
>
> _______________________________________________
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> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From info at GariDigital.com  Mon Apr 17 03:47:37 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:47:37 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
	<000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
	<677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604170047s7935bca7ja151290634541449@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I forgot the attach the visual files for Quick Books Pro 2006 payment
interface.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/17/06, Jorge Garifuna <garifuna at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
> challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
> users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
> to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
> across many departments of a company.
>
> I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
> interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
> "receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
> the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
> is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
> this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
> particular invoice.
>
> For example a typical job contract may look like this:
> 10% due at job start
> 50% due within 3 days of starting point
> 40% due at job completion
>
> If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
> against the invoice:
>
> 1) $100
> 2) $500
> 3) $400
>
> After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.
>
> Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM 4.2for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario explained
> above is closely related to the real world.
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>  On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg > wrote:
> >
> > I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what
> > end
> > users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE.
> > This
> > could have the following scenario:
> >
> > - Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
> > leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance
> > (potentials,
> > closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.
> >
> > - Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments
> > next to
> > each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
> > potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.
> >
> > Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
> > Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
> > Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes
> > the
> > system a true CRM and MIS.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com ] On Behalf Of
> > Sergio A. Kessler
> > Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
> > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
> >
> > On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna < jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the interface looks nice.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if
> > it
> > > could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
> > wants.
> >
> > == BLOAT
> >
> > /sak
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
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> > down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
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From jg at garinet.com  Sat Apr 15 15:54:12 2006
From: jg at garinet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:54:12 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
	<53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604151254pfc7086gddb0a6f2b9843307@mail.gmail.com>

vTiger CRM is obviously one of the best solutions I've seen out there in its
class. I always recommended as one of my favorite solutions.

I have mentioned it on certain business forums and because people are always
asking for CRM solutions, I wrote a little article about my experience with
the different CRM applications that I've played around with:

http://theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5

For the rest of you guys, feel free to post your replies to that article
showing your support for vTiger CRM, bacause I'm always referring people to
that link and the more support they see about vTiger, the more that will
decide on it.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/15/06, Brian Devendorf <developer at infointegrated.com> wrote:
>
> I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to
> select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic.
> Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double width,
> double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger size. Also,
> the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or have it based on
> screen size),
>
> I must say this is the best home page implementation I have seen yet.
> Great work, Saint!
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>  I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.
>  - An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing link:
>  http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html
>
> - I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as
> well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily
> change the settings.
>  - the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if
> the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she
> can easily have that option.
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>  On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> >
> > I like it.
> > Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
> > interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.
> > He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
> > in the home page from 4.2.3
> >
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and
> > > find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of
> > vtiger.
> > >
> > > The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> > > The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> > > The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
> > > weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
> > >
> > > The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> > > colored paper visuals.
> > >
> > > I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
> > > of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts,
> > > modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> > > for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
> > >
> > > Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
> > >
> > > Saint
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>
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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Mon Apr 17 11:03:59 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:03:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
	<443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net><677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com><53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
	<000001c661fb$58d29880$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B73A8@office.nubrek.local>

Folks,
 
I'm on board with Josh's feedback here.  My users just made the transition into 4.2 and while 5.0 offers a lot of great features, I'd like to be able to keep UI differences to a minimum. As great as everyone thinks 5.0 looks, it is complex and intimidating to a newcomer.  I think its great to have this as an option, but I think we also need to hang on to a simple theme/interface that looks more like the Sugar's and Salesforce.com's of the world.
 
The fact that so many people are so tied to the 5.0 look is only a signal that themes really do mean a lot to the end user.  We should make certain that 4.2 users who really liked the theme, can continue to use what they prefer just like so many prefer the 5.0 look.  Personally, I would like a theme that looks a lot closer to Salesforce so that I could compete with them better --keep it more of an apples to apples.
 
Seriously, let's not become the open source project that has an over-bearing, overly complex, overly functional UI.  Let's keep it easy for the end-user who will only touch this for 5 minutes each day --in the end, they're the ones who need CRM the most.
 
- Joel

________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Jorge Garifuna
Sent: Mon 4/17/2006 3:45 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..


vTiger CRM is obviously one of the best solutions I've seen out there in its class. I always recommended as one of my favorite solutions.
 
I have mentioned it on certain business forums and because people are always asking for CRM solutions, I wrote a little article about my experience with the different CRM applications that I've played around with:
 
http://theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5
 
For the rest of you guys, feel free to post your replies to that article showing your support for vTiger CRM, bacause I'm always referring people to that link and the more support they see about vTiger, the more that will decide on it. 
 
-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 

 
On 4/15/06, Brian Devendorf <developer at infointegrated.com> wrote: 

	I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic. Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double width, double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger size. Also, the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or have it based on screen size), 
	
	I must say this is the best home page implementation I have seen yet. Great work, Saint!
	 
	
	Brian
	
	
	
	
	I think the interface looks nice.
	I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.
	- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing link:
	http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html 
	 
	- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily change the settings.
	- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she can easily have that option.

	-- 
	Jorge Garifuna
	Professional Web Developer
	"Your Web Solution Partner"
	Garinet Global Inc.
	http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  
	On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote: 

		I like it.
		Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
		interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for. 
		He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
		in the home page from 4.2.3
		
		Saint wrote:
		
		> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
		> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger. 
		>
		> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
		> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
		> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
		> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts. 
		>
		> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
		> colored paper visuals.
		>
		> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
		> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
		> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
		> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
		>
		> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
		>
		> Saint
		>
		>
		>
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		>
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		--
		Josh Lee
		Software Engineer
		Zertis Technologies, LLC 
		205.422.5279
		jlee at zertis.net 
		
		
		
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 17 16:48:54 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:48:54 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
Message-ID: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>

On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.

Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
start working on stuff for the next release.

Allan



From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 05:08:39 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:08:39 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>
References: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>
Message-ID: <4444AC97.3010708@mikefedyk.com>

No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.

Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.

Mike

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new in
> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>
> Regrads,
>
> Remco
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> JACQUEMES
> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
>
> You're welcome Fathi
>
> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>
> Michel
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>>     
>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>       
>> included.
>>     
>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>
>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>       
>> congratulations !!!
>> thanks michel.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>>     
>
>
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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 05:24:30 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:24:30 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <4444AC97.3010708@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Mike,

That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
files?

There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> Envoy??: mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> 
> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> 
> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> in
> > vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >
> > Regrads,
> >
> > Remco
> >
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> > JACQUEMES
> > Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> > Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >
> >
> > You're welcome Fathi
> >
> > Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> > Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >>
> >>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>
> >> included.
> >>
> >>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> >>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
> we
> >>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>
> >> congratulations !!!
> >> thanks michel.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> > ----- Scanned for virus and spam
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
> >
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 05:22:32 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:22:32 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4444AFD8.2050309@mikefedyk.com>

I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.

If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.

Mike

Allan Bush wrote:
> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
>
> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> start working on stuff for the next release.
>
> Allan
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 05:35:15 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:35:15 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <4444B2D3.7040702@mikefedyk.com>

There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the 
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac 
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>       
>> in
>>     
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>       
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>         
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>     
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> included.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>>           
>> we
>>     
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>         
>> down
>>     
>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>>         
>> enabled,
>>     
>>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>       
>> down
>>     
>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>       
>> enabled,
>>     
>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>>>
>>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
>>>
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>>>       
>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>     
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
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>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 05:41:07 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:41:07 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <4444AFD8.2050309@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> Envoy??: mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
> 
> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
> 
> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Allan Bush wrote:
> > On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> > related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> > 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> > fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
> >
> > Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> > to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> > package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> > start working on stuff for the next release.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
> >
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 05:45:51 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:45:51 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
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Message-ID: <4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>

Yes, any time.

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
> few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
>
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
>>
>> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
>>
>> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Allan Bush wrote:
>>     
>>> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
>>> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
>>> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
>>> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
>>>
>>> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
>>> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
>>> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
>>> start working on stuff for the next release.
>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
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From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 18 12:12:25 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:12:25 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <4444B2D3.7040702@mikefedyk.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
	<4444B2D3.7040702@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604180912i7bc432acl71ff607a8945d8fd@mail.gmail.com>

nice move!

Where can I find the website for Image Graph?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
>
> There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
>
> Mike
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> > files?
> >
> > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> them,
> > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> >>
> >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> >>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >>>
> >>> Regrads,
> >>>
> >>> Remco
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> >>> JACQUEMES
> >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You're welcome Fathi
> >>>
> >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>>
> >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >>
> >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> included.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> what
> >>>>>
> >> we
> >>
> >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> congratulations !!!
> >>>> thanks michel.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >>>>
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> >>
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> >>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
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> >> enabled,
> >>
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> >>>
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Apr 18 12:43:09 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:43:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <677641040604180912i7bc432acl71ff607a8945d8fd@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear Jorge Garifuna,

Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437





----info at garidigital.com wrote ---- 

nice move! Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
 -- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 
 On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> included.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>>
>> we
>>
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>
>> down
>>
>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>>
>> enabled,
>>
>>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>
>> down
>>
>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>
>> enabled,
>>
>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>
>>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>
>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
>
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From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 18 13:15:25 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:15:25 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
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Gopal,

Thanks for the link.

I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state (
http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download).

- Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
piece of software for organizations?

- Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jorge Garifuna,
>
> Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:
>
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/
>
> Thanks,
> Gopal
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ----info at garidigital.com wrote ----
>
>  nice move!
>
> Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> > latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> >
> > with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be
> > done
> > > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you
> > patch
> > > files?
> > >
> > > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> > them,
> > > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> > >
> > > Michel
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> > vtigercrm-
> > >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> > >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> > >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>
> > >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> > >>
> > >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Mike,
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely
> > new
> > >>>
> > >> in
> > >>
> > >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regrads,
> > >>>
> > >>> Remco
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens
> > Michel
> > >>> JACQUEMES
> > >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> > >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> You're welcome Fathi
> > >>>
> > >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> > >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> > >>>
> > >>> Michel
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>>>
> > >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> > >>
> > >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> > >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> > >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> included.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing
> > it
> > >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> > what
> > >>>>>
> > >> we
> > >>
> > >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> congratulations !!!
> > >>>> thanks michel.
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
> > scribbling
> > >>>>
> > >> down
> > >>
> > >>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > >>>>
> > >> enabled,
> > >>
> > >>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > >>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > >>>
> > >> down
> > >>
> > >>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > >>>
> > >> enabled,
> > >>
> > >>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
> > >>>
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> > >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > >>>
> > >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the
> > AJAX
> > >> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> > >>
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> > down
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 18:34:42 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:34:42 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 4.2.3 Calendar bugfix.
In-Reply-To: <44405C28.5090009@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
	<443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>	<44401250.6030900@zertis.net>
	<44405C28.5090009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44456982.5070705@mikefedyk.com>

Can you make a unified diff with winmerge and attach it to a ticket with 
a milestone of 4.2.5?

Mike

Josh Lee wrote:
> 4.2.3 Bugfix for calendar
>
> calendar month around line 236
>
>        else
>        { // day overlaps by Fredy
>            if ( $today == Date("Ymd",$ts)){
>                $col = "ol-today";
>            }
>            else if ($wd == 6) {
>                $col = "ol-holiday";
>            }
>          else if ($wd == 5) {
>             $col = "ol-freeday";
>                }
>            else if ($xm != $m ) {
>                $col = "ol-otherday";
>            }
>            else  {
>                $col = "ol-appday";
>            }
>        }
>
>
> Josh Lee wrote:
>
>> Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail 
>> view.
>> Simple probelm simple fix.
>>
>> includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
>> At the bottom of the file change this:
>>
>>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>>    {
>>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>>                $key1=$keys[0];
>>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>>        {
>>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>>        }
>>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 
>> => $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>>    }
>>    return $return_data;
>>
>>
>> To this:
>>
>>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>>    {
>>       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
>>        $key1 = null;
>>        $key2 = null;
>>       // Done adding
>>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>>                $key1=$keys[0];
>>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>>        {
>>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>>        }
>>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 
>> => $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>>    }
>>    return $return_data;
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>>
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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 23:27:12 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:27:12 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <677641040604181015q3e5e1955n338d14c20b114ddc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA+vVFbK0fJUuenLxmtgRvHAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Jorge,

 

You can have a look at that page

 

http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/

 

If you are interested, I have started to put some stuff on vtiger wiki :

 

http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Developing_Charts_using_ImageGraph

 

I don?t have any idea why Image Graph is still at alpha stage. For the tests
I have done, it looks stable.

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Jorge Garifuna
Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 19:15
? : gopals at vtiger.com; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced

 

Gopal,

 

Thanks for the link. 

 

I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state
(http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download). 

 

- Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
piece of software for organizations?

 

- Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 


 

On 4/18/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote: 

Dear Jorge Garifuna,

Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal 
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com <http://gopal.vtiger.com/>  
Skype: sripadag 
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437 





---- info at garidigital.com <mailto:info at garidigital.com>  wrote ---- 

nice move!

 

Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  


 

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com > wrote: 

There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac 
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch 
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>
>> -----Message d'origine----- 
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto: vtigercrm-
<mailto:vtigercrm-> 
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk 
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com> 
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance. 
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES 
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com> 
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14 
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> included. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it 
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>> 
>> we
>>
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>>> This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho
Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>
>> down
>>
>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX 
>>>> 
>> enabled,
>>
>>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>>
>>>>
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Planner. Still scribbling
>>>
>> down
>>
>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>
>> enabled, 
>>
>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! 
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>>>
>>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
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>>>
>> _______________________________________________ 
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Still scribbling down
>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
enabled, 
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>
>
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Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands?
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Wed Apr 19 00:08:58 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:08:58 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please stop adding bug reports for v5
	without setting the milestone.
Message-ID: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>

And for that matter, more and better milestones would be a good idea too.

I look at the bug reports by milestone (ticket listing 3) so having a 
bunch with unset milestones for v5 gets in the way.

Mike


From info at GariDigital.com  Wed Apr 19 00:18:07 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:18:07 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA+vVFbK0fJUuenLxmtgRvHAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
References: <677641040604181015q3e5e1955n338d14c20b114ddc@mail.gmail.com>
	<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA+vVFbK0fJUuenLxmtgRvHAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <677641040604182118o709d8d9h9c886c8a8a395451@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for sharing Michael!

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Michel JACQUEMES <m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote:
>
>  Hi Jorge,
>
>
>
> You can have a look at that page
>
>
>
> http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/
>
>
>
> If you are interested, I have started to put some stuff on vtiger wiki :
>
>
>
> http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Developing_Charts_using_ImageGraph
>
>
>
> I don't have any idea why Image Graph is still at alpha stage. For the
> tests I have done, it looks stable.
>
>
>
> Michel
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *De :* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *De la part de* Jorge
> Garifuna
> *Envoy? :* mardi 18 avril 2006 19:15
> *? :* gopals at vtiger.com; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>
> *Objet :* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
>
>
> Gopal,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the link.
>
>
>
> I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state (
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download).
>
>
>
> - Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
> piece of software for organizations?
>
>
>
> - Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, *Gopal* <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jorge Garifuna,
>
> Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:
>
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/
>
> Thanks,
> Gopal
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ---- info at garidigital.com wrote ----
>
> nice move!
>
>
>
> Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, *Mike Fedyk* <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com > wrote:
>
> There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
>
> Mike
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> > files?
> >
> > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> them,
> > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> >>
> >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> >>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >>>
> >>> Regrads,
> >>>
> >>> Remco
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens
> Michel
> >>> JACQUEMES
> >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You're welcome Fathi
> >>>
> >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>>
> >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >>
> >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> included.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>
> >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> what
> >>>>>
> >> we
> >>
> >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> congratulations !!!
> >>>> thanks michel.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >>>>
> >> enabled,
> >>
> >>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >>>
> >> enabled,
> >>
> >>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>
> >>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>
> >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >>
> >>>
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> down
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> enabled,
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> >
> >
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From allan.bush at gmail.com  Wed Apr 19 02:36:14 2006
From: allan.bush at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:36:14 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please stop adding bug reports for v5
	without setting the milestone.
In-Reply-To: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>
References: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604182336xb6978c9x8fa77ae313697dfc@mail.gmail.com>

I agree.
I wouldn't bother trying to fix all the bug reports right now,
hopefully when this round of QA is finished someone with access to the
trac backend can just fix them all in one go.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> And for that matter, more and better milestones would be a good idea too.
>
> I look at the bug reports by milestone (ticket listing 3) so having a
> bunch with unset milestones for v5 gets in the way.
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Fri Apr 21 03:52:55 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:52:55 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
	<4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>

Good to see you back Mike.

Any word on richie putting rc3 out?
I've created a patch for ticket #86
(http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/86), depending on
what state everything is in we may want to try and slip it in under
the wire.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> Yes, any time.
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
> > few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
> >>
> >> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
> >>
> >> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Allan Bush wrote:
> >>
> >>> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> >>> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> >>> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> >>> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
> >>>
> >>> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> >>> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> >>> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> >>> start working on stuff for the next release.
> >>>
> >>> Allan
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>
> >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >>>
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> >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >
> >
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From richie at vtiger.com  Fri Apr 21 04:27:15 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:27:15 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>	<4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
	<3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10abb8f5c06.-9220458501084372140.2763426437080733311@@vtiger.com>

Hi! 
 
I am waiting for mikef's nod. 
mikef, let me know when you want me to put and give 
out the exe/bin for 4.2.4. 
 
Richie




---- Allan Bush&lt;allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Good to see you back Mike.

Any word on richie putting rc3 out?
I've created a patch for ticket #86
(http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/86), depending on
what state everything is in we may want to try and slip it in under
the wire.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk &lt;mfedyk at mikefedyk.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; Yes, any time.
&gt;
&gt; Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
&gt; &gt; I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
&gt; &gt; few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; -----Message d'origine-----
&gt; &gt;&gt; De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
&gt; &gt;&gt; developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
&gt; &gt;&gt; Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
&gt; &gt;&gt; ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
&gt; &gt;&gt; Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Mike
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Allan Bush wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; related to packaging and both have patches ready to go. I agree the
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release? Mike Fedyk seems
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; package the release? I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; start working on stuff for the next release.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Allan
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Fri Apr 21 12:20:42 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:20:42 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SVN commit syntax
Message-ID: <3bec26390604210920y7af6e204m2a8c116dca4aff52@mail.gmail.com>

I'm glad to see more people taking advantage of the trac ticket
system, I find it extremely  useful myself and I'm sure everyone else
will as well.  I just want to point out a couple shortcuts that will
make everyone's life a little easier.

If you included certain key phrases in your SVN commit message any
relevant tickets will be automatically modified.  The ones I find
useful are "Refs #<ticket number>" and "Closes #<ticket number>".  I'm
sure there are more of these but I can't find an documentation on this
(trust me they works, I've done it several times myself).

If your commit message included "Refs #<ticket number>" (ie: Refs
#223) then that ticket will automatically get linked to your checked
in changeset and a comment added matching your commit message.  This
is super useful in tracking the progress on fixing a bug.

If your commit message included "Closes #<ticket number>" then you get
the same effect as using "Refs" plus the added bonus of having the
ticket close itself automatically saving you from having to do it
yourself.

If we could all agree to use this syntax it would greatly increase the
value of the ticket system.



From jtk at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 21 13:12:29 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:12:29 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SVN commit syntax
References: <3bec26390604210920y7af6e204m2a8c116dca4aff52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.21.17.12.28.374020@yahoo.com>

Allan Bush wrote:
> I'm glad to see more people taking advantage of the trac ticket
> system

I concur 100% in thanking the vtiger team for starting to use trac tickets
for their trunk development.

Here is the relevant documentation for the python script that handles this
integration of commit messages and the ticket system.

-----------

It searches commit messages for text in the form of:

  command #1
  command #1, #2
  command #1 & #2
  command #1 and #2
 
You can have more then one command in a message. The following commands
are supported. There is more then one spelling for each command, to make
this as user-friendly as possible. 

 closes, fixes
   The specified issue numbers are closed with the contents of
   this commit message being added to it.

 references, refs, addresses, re 
   The specified issue numbers are left in their current status, but
   the contents of this commit message are added to their notes. 


A fairly complicated example of what you can do is with a commit message
of:

   Changed blah and foo to do this or that. Fixes #10 and #12, and refs
   #12.

This will close #10 and #12, and add a note to #12.


-------------

Also be sure to aprise yourself of the trac syntax for embedding code and
revision references in your checkin messages. Makes browsing the
repository very easy. I used these in changesets such as:

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5114

  refs #62 and #17. merging source:vtigercrm/branches/4.2 r5080 through
  r5113 to source:vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. allanbush
  fixed CreatePDF.php pdf generation bugs

That's a little overboard for routine commits, of course, but explicit
references to logical source and destination are very useful for merges
and other branching actions.

Thanks again to everybody creating all those tickets recently. If we can
get somebody with access to the database backend to update their
milestones (currently set to none), that would be a tremendous release
planning asset. 



From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Sun Apr 23 19:10:17 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:10:17 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
Message-ID: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
the forge is not available for me.

Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?

A?ssa


From fboudra at free.fr  Mon Apr 24 08:25:54 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:25:54 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
In-Reply-To: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>

hi aissa,

> Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
> the forge is not available for me.
>
> Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?

maintenance : box upgrade goes wrong since last update.

i'm working on it...

cheers,

Fathi


From richie at vtiger.com  Mon Apr 24 10:26:18 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:26:18 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
Message-ID: <10acc4b2a57.-3766842912071413281.6608330223419069294@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

The code base is slowly being stabilized and I would expect it to be upto the mark 
by around May 7th or so. 

I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

Thanks,
Richie
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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Mon Apr 24 17:08:37 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:08:37 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <000001c667ab$9e760100$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B73D4@office.nubrek.local>

Richie,
 
In my view it is a must for vTiger 5 to support PostgreSQL.  This is a sensitive topic here, so I'll try to be objective and not start a flame war:

1.	
	MySQL is not opensource, it requires $ and a license to use it commercially --which as someone pointed out earlier, is the main driver for using vTiger in the first place, to make money.
2.	
	MySQL does not own the INNODB transactional table type, Oracle does
3.	
	Oracle, the other database supported (?) is not open source
4.	
	Compliance with PostgreSQL suggests that the codebase is much more tightly aligned with the ANSI SQL2000 standard --which easily leads to support for other Adodb databases
5.	
	PostgresSQL has a strong following on this list and there are many individuals who are ready and willing to contribute.  I would highlight bushwack and jeffk who have performed significant amounts of work in bringing PostgreSQL support to 4.2.4

If we're agressively pursuing opensource components for vTiger, I think we need to ensure that consumers aren't forced into a non-opensource license just to run the application.  If someone wants to run this on a Windows Server XXXX with an Oracle db, I wish them luck.  At the same time, we want folks with Fedora core X, to be able to legitimately run vTiger without shelling out $.

All of this said, I see two main drivers to get PostgreSQL support in vTiger 5 before release.

1.	Added portability and stability by supporting an ANSI SQL 2000-compliant db.
2.	Removed dependence on non-opensource software.

This is my view.

- Joel


________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Richie
Sent: Mon 4/24/2006 9:30 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5


Hello!

The code base is slowly being stabilized and I would expect it to be upto the mark 
by around May 7th or so. 

I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

Thanks,
Richie
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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Mon Apr 24 17:10:33 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:10:33 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
In-Reply-To: <200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <1145913034.5434.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Totally my fault, I upgraded some of the packages in the sarge security
repo and the whole thing died.  Hopefully Fathi can fix it up soon.
Fathi let me know if you need anything from me to help move this along.

My bad.

Matt

On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 14:25 +0200, Fathi Boudra wrote:
> hi aissa,
> 
> > Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
> > the forge is not available for me.
> >
> > Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?
> 
> maintenance : box upgrade goes wrong since last update.
> 
> i'm working on it...
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Fathi
> _______________________________________________
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 24 17:36:16 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:36:16 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
Message-ID: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>

Good day everyone,

I noticed that a branch was created for the 4.2.4 release, I take this
a a sign that I can start putting stuff into the 4.2 branch for the
4.2.5 release.

The first thing I'd like to do is to merge the 4.2_postgres branch
into the 4.2 branch (ticket #17).  I'd like to leave in the code from
ticket #69 (http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/69)
well doing this as I think the extra debugging information could
benefit from the eyes of a wider release.  If anyone has any comments
on this lets hear it.

jeffk, you seem to know how to juggle the svn branching/merging, feel
free to merge the branches.  If you're busy I'll figure it out and
probably do it later tonight.

Allan



From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 17:44:00 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:44:00 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:36:16 -0700, Allan Bush wrote:
> jeffk, you seem to know how to juggle the svn branching/merging, feel
> free to merge the branches.  If you're busy I'll figure it out and
> probably do it later tonight.

I'll do that right now. I'm doing the mechanical merge, it will need
testing (I have zero php-debugging-fu; I just do a quick install of the
demo dataset and duck ;)

Any bugs found post merge should get trac tickets with the 4.2.5
milestone.




From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 18:36:37 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:36:37 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>

OK, the branches have been merged.

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5306

Per the longwinded changeset log, there will surely be breakage and some
rapid integration work needed to support both postgresql and mysql for the
end user.

When this is done, we should delete
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration and close tickets #62 and
#17.

Thanks for all the postgresql support. I encourage Richie and his team to
review this changeset and apply relevant portions and lessons to
vtigercrm/trunk ASAP.




From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 24 21:21:41 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:21:41 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604241821v466df53jf1e60cfa7d615f28@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Jeff

I don't really anticipate anything being broken as the 4.2 branch is
nearly the same as the postgres branch now and I tested that with
mysql and postgres installations, but we'll see.

On 4/24/06, Jeff Kowalczyk <jtk at yahoo.com> wrote:
> OK, the branches have been merged.
>
> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5306
>
> Per the longwinded changeset log, there will surely be breakage and some
> rapid integration work needed to support both postgresql and mysql for the
> end user.
>
> When this is done, we should delete
> vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration and close tickets #62 and
> #17.
>
> Thanks for all the postgresql support. I encourage Richie and his team to
> review this changeset and apply relevant portions and lessons to
> vtigercrm/trunk ASAP.
>
>
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 22:41:28 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:41:28 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>

Richie wrote:
> I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

   There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
   another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.



From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 22:47:36 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:47:36 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>

Richie wrote:
> (...) vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

GA? What's that? ;)

Oh, you must mean the tagged releases with a series of predictable names
of the form vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 through vtigercrm-5.0.0?

The ones that linux packagers will be glad to distributed to millions of
grateful users?

Sorry, Richie, the version naming curmudgeon(s) will coming to the party
once the team gets ready to start calling it beta. We'll bring cake,
though.

;)



From rrg at r2g.nl  Tue Apr 25 05:11:41 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:11:41 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKCEILCBAA.rrg@r2g.nl>

Hi Jeff,

I agree with you, giving more people a choice which db to use at the start
of implementing VtigerCRM highlites the best part of using OpenSource.
Having implemented VtigerCRM at several clients of mine on a online
webserver works fine.
Being able to use a different db backend for integration with others apps
would be great.
Just to make it clear I need both databases for this: mysql and postgressql.
If at some point we would be able to use firebird as well, well that will be
the day for me :-)

Regards,

Remco Gerbrands




-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Jeff
Kowalczyk
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 april 2006 4:41
Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5


Richie wrote:
> I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

   There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
   another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.

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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Tue Apr 25 17:44:41 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:44:41 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
Message-ID: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
many of us aren't watching the forums.
Let me know what you think.
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541

Matt



From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Apr 25 23:06:51 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:06:51 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <10ad429d1dc.7191252965695616562.7859674740524310394@@vtiger.com>

Dear Matt,

Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass mail. 

Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level. 

Regards,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal 
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com 
Skype: sripadag 
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437 





----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ---- 

I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
many of us aren't watching the forums.
Let me know what you think.
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541

Matt

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 26 14:14:53 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:14:53 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>

matt, WRT mail tracking, how do you track the "opened" state if the
MUA does not download external images (most MUAs todays do that)

I didn't undertand when you say the clear icon is "scanned" ...

regards,
/sergio

On 4/26/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>  Dear Matt,
>
> Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found
> very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I
> exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass
> mail.
>
> Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will
> definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level.
>
> Regards,
> Gopal
>
> S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
>
>
>
>
>
> ----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ----
>
>
>
> I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
> many of us aren't watching the forums.
> Let me know what you think.
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541
>
> Matt
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Wed Apr 26 15:38:36 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:38:36 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
	<49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1146080316.5434.119.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Sergio,
	You're right, the good MUA's don't automatically load images.  In that
case you may not get the initial 'open' action if the user doesn't allow
the images to load.  In quite a few cases you can get around this with
an embedded iframe but I am not a big fan of using that method because
it has so much potential for abuse.  There are also email clients (like
evolution) that will cache the images so they only load once, in that
case you'll never now if the user re-opened the email.  As far as
scanning, when I was reading up on email tracking methods I had run
across a site that mentioned some filtering systems will actually load
the images when the email is scanned.  I haven't run across this yet
myself and it seems a bit counter intuitive if the scanning mechanism
was trying to detect spam :).
	I've also noticed that if you enabled tracking and unsub links in your
email the spam rating will jump at least 1 point with most spam filters
like spamassasin.

	I've sent a campaign out to some of our clients and it had a 100% open
rate which to me means that either many users don't have image loading
turned off, or they use one of those crappier clients that offers you no
protection from tracking.  So really YMMV because of the way different
MUA's handle images, but so far my experience has been that most users
don't bother to use those MUA's or don't bother to enable the tracking
protections.

Matt

On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 15:14 -0300, Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> matt, WRT mail tracking, how do you track the "opened" state if the
> MUA does not download external images (most MUAs todays do that)
> 
> I didn't undertand when you say the clear icon is "scanned" ...
> 
> regards,
> /sergio
> 
> On 4/26/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
> >  Dear Matt,
> >
> > Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found
> > very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I
> > exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass
> > mail.
> >
> > Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will
> > definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gopal
> >
> > S.S.G.Gopal
> > Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> > Skype: sripadag
> > Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ----
> >
> >
> >
> > I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
> > many of us aren't watching the forums.
> > Let me know what you think.
> > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
> > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From jg at garinet.com  Thu Apr 27 02:57:40 2006
From: jg at garinet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:57:40 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5. Need
	help
Message-ID: <677641040604262357t1b2b09fk8db5a1dac628a455@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
there is problem on step 3 of 5.

Here is the error I'm getting:

   Step 3 of 5 [image: vtiger CRM]       Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters
specified   *

Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons:

- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
- specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
server from the host*
 *

Kindly check the specified database connection parameters...

*
Here is what I have:
-- vTiger 4.2.3
-- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
-- PHP Version: 4.3.2

I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
script with the same host name, user name and db name.

The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943

Thanks in advanced for your help.


--
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Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Thu Apr 27 06:23:48 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:23:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] About locate map on vtiger 5.
Message-ID: <44509BB4.2050908@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
the new locate map functionnality is cool on vtiger CRM 5.
I think this function can be best, with "Get direction".
By using my company address and customer address, we can have the road 
direction on google maps.

Map + road direction = very cool to move.

Respect,
A?ssa.


From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 09:24:05 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:24:05 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10adb854511.-6759985834055790868.6453244679148152047@@vtiger.com>

Hi! 
 
Why am i starting to hate this guy ? :D! 
 
How to go about handling the Postgres integration into v5 please? 
All suggestions are welcome. 
Allan Bush and Joel , it will be nice to get a response from you. 
 
Richie




---- Jeff Kowalczyk&lt;jtk at yahoo.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Richie wrote:
&gt; (...) vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

GA? What's that? ;)

Oh, you must mean the tagged releases with a series of predictable names
of the form vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 through vtigercrm-5.0.0?

The ones that linux packagers will be glad to distributed to millions of
grateful users?

Sorry, Richie, the version naming curmudgeon(s) will coming to the party
once the team gets ready to start calling it beta. We'll bring cake,
though.

;)

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From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 09:25:30 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:25:30 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10adb869364.-649200440285564960.-7653367893237445779@@vtiger.com>

Hello! 
 
Agreed. We will support Postgres but we need help. 
Here, we are working on the bug-fixes and are totally 
swamped. 
All hands welcome for Postgres support. 
 
Richie




---- Jeff Kowalczyk&lt;jtk at yahoo.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Richie wrote:
&gt; I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
&gt; GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

 There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
 another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql&lt;-&gt;postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.

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From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 09:27:35 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:27:35 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5
Message-ID: <10adb8879c7.-4170929643010971357.7693297806886073293@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

We have not made much progress in v5 with respect to the muli-language support.
We need help. 

Please do suggest approaches for the same as well.

We had been initially working on mikecrowe's contribution but we are not able to get
in touch with him for sometime now so the job is still incomplete.

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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 11:50:33 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:50:33 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Richie,

To support Postgres there are about 3 or 4 things you need to consider
on all the queries made.  If you see my post in the forums
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=2597 I've outlined the
problems that need to be addressed (yes that's for a different version
but the problems will be the same, except for the first problem which
an adodb upgrade solved).

In order for Postgres support to be possible those issues need to be
addressed in the current code AND all developers must continue to
address them in all further code they write.  If I can be assured of
the second point I'll make the required changes once the code base is
somewhat stable and feature complete (I'm thinking between beta1 and
beta2).

Allan

PS fyi how I go about finding and fixing these issues is I tweak
adodb's debugging ala ticket #69 and then install and use vtiger
fixing the database errors as I come across them

On 4/27/06, Richie <richie at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Agreed. We will support Postgres but we need help.
> Here, we are working on the bug-fixes and are totally
> swamped.
> All hands welcome for Postgres support.
>
>
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Jeff Kowalczyk<jtk at yahoo.com> wrote ----
>
>
>  Richie wrote:
> > I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> > GA please.
>
> I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
> someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
> reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
> integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.
>
> But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
> postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:
>
>  There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
>  another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.
>
> Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
> on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
> vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
> months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?
>
> Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
> have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
> preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
> wrong with a converted dataset.
>
> I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
> at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
> needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 27 12:13:15 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:13:15 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
	<3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.27.16.13.14.294948@yahoo.com>

Allan Bush wrote:
> To support Postgres there are about 3 or 4 things you need to consider
> on all the queries made.  If you see my post in the forums
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=2597 I've outlined the problems
> that need to be addressed (yes that's for a different version but the
> problems will be the same, except for the first problem which an adodb
> upgrade solved).

I think it would be useful to have a trac ticket listing those four
requirements, plus any additions or refinements you encountered since your
work with vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration.

The vtiger team can help you help them by adding "refs #(number)" to any
checkins they make in the coming weeks that follow your ticket's
postgresql-readiness advice. Committers will eventually internalize those
guidelines when writing new code. You (Allan) will also have a nice
indicator of how much postgresql prep work has been done at any given
point, and can better decide when to jump in.

I agree that you'll want to have a somewhat slower change-velocity (e.g.
during beta) before giving it a thorough conversion and sign-off as to its
readiness.

IMO adodb API usage that is limited to mysql (or any single backend) is a
bug and fixing it would not be a new feature, so I think it's OK to
fix/add postgresql and other backend support during the beta period.

Disclaimers at install-time that there is no announced support for
migrating from one database backend to another would be wise.



From jg at garidigital.com  Thu Apr 27 12:23:45 2006
From: jg at garidigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:23:45 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5. Need
	help
Message-ID: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,



I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
there is problem on step 3 of 5.



Here is the error I'm getting:


   Step 3 of 5


       Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified



  *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *

*- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
- specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
server from the host*

*Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *

Here is what I have:
-- vTiger 4.2.3

-- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
-- PHP Version: 4.3.2


I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
script with the same host name, user name and db name.



The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out



http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104



http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943



Thanks in advanced for your help.



--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 12:45:29 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:15:29 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will this
	help?
Message-ID: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant 
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do 
you think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience?

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can 
generate an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar 
quotes using the information of that particular quote like account name, 
potential name, address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, 
you cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining 
to that product etc.


regards,
Saint


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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 13:20:00 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:20:00 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5.
	Need help
In-Reply-To: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>

This isn't really the place for user support, you'll have much better luck
in the forms.  Also posting the same thing twice isn't going to win you any
fans.

Your problem is, as stated, vtiger can't connect to your database.  If you
have some technical knowledge the line that's failing is line 50 of
install/3confirmConfig.php you may be able to figure it out from there.  My
first guess is that your mysql installation doesn't support/allow persistent
connections.

On 4/27/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garidigital.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
> but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
> there is problem on step 3 of 5.
>
>
>
> Here is the error I'm getting:
>
>
>    Step 3 of 5
>
>
>
>        Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified
>
>
>
>   *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
> connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *
>
> *- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
> - specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
> server from the host *
>
> *Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *
>
> Here is what I have:
> -- vTiger 4.2.3
>
> -- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
> -- PHP Version: 4.3.2
>
>
> I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
> script with the same host name, user name and db name.
>
>
>
> The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
> was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943
>
>
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
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From jg at garidigital.com  Thu Apr 27 13:42:58 2006
From: jg at garidigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:42:58 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5.
	Need help
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
	<3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604271042l4f205b02ybf3755fcc12cc8e8@mail.gmail.com>

Allan

I certainly appreciate your reply. I'm a supporter of vTiger CRM (
http://www.garidigital.com/docs/vtiger/
http://www.theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5 ) and the reason I post here is
because I exhausted my options on the forum. I certainly do not need your
lectures about the appropriate place to place my questions. If I didn't know
better I wouldn't mind your suggestion. I think we can all benefit much
better from this medium by assisting each other so  that vTiger CRM can grow
even more.

Any other assistance would be greatly appreciated.
--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/27/06, Allan Bush <allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This isn't really the place for user support, you'll have much better luck
> in the forms.  Also posting the same thing twice isn't going to win you any
> fans.
>
> Your problem is, as stated, vtiger can't connect to your database.  If you
> have some technical knowledge the line that's failing is line 50 of
> install/3confirmConfig.php you may be able to figure it out from there.  My
> first guess is that your mysql installation doesn't support/allow persistent
> connections.
>
>  On 4/27/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garidigital.com> wrote:
>
> >  Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
> but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
> there is problem on step 3 of 5.
>
>
>
> Here is the error I'm getting:
>
>
>    Step 3 of 5
>
>
>
>        Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified
>
>
>
>   *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
> connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *
>
> *- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
> - specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
> server from the host *
>
> *Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *
>
> Here is what I have:
> -- vTiger 4.2.3
>
> -- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
> -- PHP Version: 4.3.2
>
>
> I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
> script with the same host name, user name and db name.
>
>
>
> The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
> was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943
>
>
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 27 15:29:29 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:29:29 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
	<3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.27.19.29.28.127076@yahoo.com>

Just to see what an automatic merge would accomplish to bring the 4.2
postgresql support to the trunk, I did a dry run merge. Definitely file
this under 'foolhardy merging that would break the trunk in many ways':

In svn update/merge console output, 'U' indicates clean merge of
changesets, 'C' indicates conflicting lines.

This merge testing is done with a trunk checkout:

 URL: http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/trunk
 Revision: 5506

Changeset 5306 is the changeset that merged the work from
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration to the 4.2 branch.

The following files would apparently get clean automatic merges of the
changeset that adds postgresql support to branches/4.2:

 $ svn merge --dry-run
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5305
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5306 |
 grep 'U  ' 
 U    modules/Reports/SaveReportFolder.php
 U    modules/Reports/Save.php
 U    modules/Reports/Reports.php
 U    modules/Settings/SaveConvertLead.php
 U    modules/Settings/DeleteCustomField.php
 U    modules/Settings/UpdateComboValues.php
 U    modules/Users/User.php
 U    modules/Users/massdelete.php
 U    modules/Users/updateLeadDBStatus.php
 U    modules/Calendar/appointment.pinc
 U    modules/Import/UsersLastImport.php
 U    include/database/PearDatabase.php
 U    schema/DatabaseSchema.xml

This definitely doesn't mean complete support (in these files) for
postgresql, only that the changesets from the branch would cleanly merge
to the trunk without additional effort.

These (many) other files would have conflict lines added to the source.
This would definitely bring PHP syntax breakage, and require immediate
attention to resolve the conflicts before the code would even run again:

 $ svn merge --dry-run
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5305
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5306 |
 grep 'C  '
 C    config.inc.php
 C    modules/Accounts/ListViewTop.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Account.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Popup_picker.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Popup.php
 C    modules/Accounts/ListView.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Quote.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Delete.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Popup.php
 C    modules/Quotes/ListView.php
 C    modules/Potentials/Popup.php
 C    modules/Potentials/ListView.php
 C    modules/Potentials/Opportunity.php
 C    modules/Leads/Popup.php
 C    modules/Leads/Lead.php
 C    modules/Leads/ListView.php
 C    modules/Leads/LeadConvertToEntities.php
 C    modules/Home/UnifiedSearch.php
 C    modules/Notes/Delete.php
 C    modules/Notes/ListView.php
 C    modules/Invoice/Invoice.php
 C    modules/Invoice/ListView.php
 C    modules/Reports/ReportRun.php
 C    modules/Reports/PopulateReports.php
 C    modules/HelpDesk/HelpDesk.php
 C    modules/HelpDesk/ListView.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveProfile.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveOrgSharing.php
 C    modules/Users/LoginHistory.php
 C    modules/Users/saveemailtemplate.php
 C    modules/Users/ListView.php
 C    modules/Users/Security.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveRole.php
 C    modules/Products/Popup.php
 C    modules/Products/AddProductsToPriceBook.php
 C    modules/Products/ListView.php
 C    modules/Products/Delete.php
 C    modules/Products/Product.php
 C    modules/Activities/Activity.php
 C    modules/Activities/ListView.php
 C    modules/Activities/RenderRelatedListUI.php
 C    modules/Activities/OpenListView.php
 C    modules/CustomView/Save.php
 C    modules/CustomView/CustomView.php
 C    modules/Faq/ListView.php
 C    modules/uploads/add2db.php
 C    modules/Emails/Email.php
 C    modules/Emails/ListView.php
 C    modules/Contacts/Contact.php
 C    modules/Contacts/Popup.php
 C    modules/Contacts/ListView.php
 C    data/CRMEntity.php
 C    data/SugarBean.php
 C    include/RelatedListView.php
 C    include/PopulateComboValues.php
 C    install/5createTables.inc.php
 C    install/4createConfigFile.php
 C    install/1checkSystem.php
 C    install/2setConfig.php
 C    install/populateSeedData.php
 C    install/3confirmConfig.php
 C    adodb/adodb.inc.php
 C    adodb/adodb-lib.inc.php
 C    adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php

There are a few skipped files, due to move, rename or removal in trunk.

Again, merging and subsequently resolving these many conflicts would by no
means imply completed postgresql support for the trunk.

However, any approach that brings the trunk and maintained branches closer
together would be a positive thing.

Once vtigercrm-5.0.0 is in production, certainly people will want to
back-port selected features, and forward-port bug fixes during the long
lifecycle of the vtigercrm-4.2.x series. Minimizing diffs between
branches always makes that process easier.

Just FYI. I don't think this merge (except for the 'U' files) would do
any good at this point. Allan can probably move through the trunk codebase
quicker with his method.


Note: svn revert doesn't undo conflict messages AFAICT. If you try this
merge without the --dry-run option, be prepared to check out a fresh trunk
working copy after you are done examining the results.



From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Thu Apr 27 23:14:14 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:14:14 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
	this	help?
In-Reply-To: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAn3Ohn2d+IU+m4J2aYwsDTQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Saint,

 

It could be a useful feature, especially knowing that user can have an
action on an object without leaving the context of this object.

It will be more useful if you do the same thing on a listview. SAP has
introduced that naming it ?drag & activate?. Suppose you are on a customer
listview, you drag a customer line over  invoice menu line and you get
invoices listview for this customer. This can be extended almost everywhere.

 

May be I am wrong, but I think also that it is not very difficult to
implement because it can be a general template.

 

Another idea is that with such feature we are not very far from workflow
management.

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Saint
Envoy? : jeudi 27 avril 2006 18:45
? : LANCER : Developers List
Objet : [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will this
help?

 

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do you
think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience? 

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can generate
an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar quotes using
the information of that particular quote like account name, potential name,
address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, you
cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining to that
product etc. 


regards,
Saint




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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Sat Apr 29 04:18:40 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:18:40 +0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5
In-Reply-To: <10adb8879c7.-4170929643010971357.7693297806886073293@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <001001c66b65$8da86490$6364a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hello Richie,

 

I am not sure about the approach taken, but would it happen to be based on
language files? If so, publishing the language file template would be a
start for volunteers to begin localization work?

 

  _____  

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of
Richie
Sent: 27 April 2006 20:28
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5

 

Hello!

We have not made much progress in v5 with respect to the muli-language
support.
We need help. 

Please do suggest approaches for the same as well.

We had been initially working on mikecrowe's contribution but we are not
able to get
in touch with him for sometime now so the job is still incomplete.

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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Sat Apr 29 04:18:40 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:18:40 +0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
	thishelp?
In-Reply-To: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <001801c66b65$97492520$6364a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hello team,

 

I would like to add my observation on this "Detailed View".

 

Before this is rolled out "all out", I believe the more important thing is
that this would be one of the beginning steps of Sales Automation, this
example would aptly be the "order progress". I would see this screen being
particularly useful for Account Executives and Field Sales:

 

*	Able to check on previous orders from this client; if a "quick
notes" section that can list out some user configurable details such as
"Last order date", "Last order size", "Any outstanding cases", etc on the
right column just above the "Actions" would be a great assistance. 
*	Able to pull data seamlessly from all modules (ie. Price book, terms
and conditions from existing options) without needing to "right-click and
open" other tabs.

 

An enhanced version for management purposes would be to allow all detailed
views to open up as below, including those that are "done" so as to do
checking. Versioning for any adjustments and auto-numbering (with reference
on who adjusted what) would be important also in this screen.

 

Finally I certainly do hope that this would set the fundamental workflow
system in place for the workflow module!

 

  _____  

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Saint
Sent: 27 April 2006 23:45
To: LANCER : Developers List
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
thishelp?

 

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do you
think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience? 

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can generate
an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar quotes using
the information of that particular quote like account name, potential name,
address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, you
cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining to that
product etc. 


regards,
Saint



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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr  3 04:15:46 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:15:46 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for other lang
In-Reply-To: <10a507fa4a9.3228964008498662867.8913703528505651198@@vtiger.com>
References: <442D05DC.1050706@vtigercrmfrance.org>	<86f04e340603310321k44e86d76n1bc9e220dba30205@mail.gmail.com>	<04d001c654b6$096df520$4201a8c0@adlib1>	<49216030603310420y39dc269ard1532edcb0817b18@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <443103E2.9090300@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi,
because i have often discussions with Richie, i can tell : the vtiger 
team is really open and listen users. If you really test vtiger 5, you 
can see the alpha version as less bug than 4.2.3.
An exemple on vtiger crm 4.x, if you have a lead with description 
contain " or ', when convert, you loose the data (you don't loose 
really, but the lead is marked as deleted, and no account created), it's 
now correct, and vtiger crm is still in alpha. I have a lot of other 
exemple, if you create a customview, with custom field, you obtain an 
sql error, in 5 alpha, that work.

No free critics, like we say in france, easy to critic, difficult to do.
Telling vtiger crm is not 100% translatable is honest, all can see that 
and know that, telling vtiger team do not follow the community is not 
justice.

Sak, Juao, Adlibweb, we can joint Kleo efforts 
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5773.

To Saint, have look to the screenshot, some layers are missplaced 
(settings1.gif), and require mouse action to be see. On the 
settings2.gif, can you increase the layer size ?
The fader effect in "my account" is really cool.

To Richie, i have a problem with company info, if i use ', nothing is 
saved, my search on files SaveCompany.php and add2db.php give nothing.
I can spend a part of my nights and week-end to "unharcode" v5 during 
beta phases, please explain the difference between {$MOD.STRINGS} and 
{CMOD.STRINGS}.
Thanks,
A?ssa
 

Richie a ?crit :

> That, is not the exact fact.
> We have been working with mikecrowe's gettext fix but have some issues 
> at our end. Once we resolve those,
> we will have it integrated into the product.
>
> /sak, we respect everyone's work. But things take time.
> internationalization is a priority for us. As you would have seen, we 
> have been working on some areas and the difference is out there to see 
> for everyone. We will do justice to internationalization as well. 
> Every contribution is important to us and we try hard to
> do justice to them. But, please understand, it is not so simple to 
> integrate all of them quickly.
> MikeCrowe himself will vouch for the fact that we have
> worked with his patch and were in touch with him for some of the 
> issues. We still have some more issues and hope to resolve it soon 
> with his help.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ----
>
>     once upon a time, mike crowe developed a solution for this using
>     gettext,
>     is a shame that his work was never integrated... :-(
>
>     /sak
>
>     On 3/31/06, adlibweb <info at adlibweb.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > And the same from all the Spanish speaking countries.....
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > ----- Original Message -----
>     > From: Joao Oliveira
>     > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>     > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:21 PM
>     > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 unusable for
>     other lang
>     >
>     > Hello all,
>     >
>     > I totally agree with you A?ssa.
>     > I think that in Portugal (and in other non-English countries)
>     vtiger will
>     > loose against other CRM solutions only due to this.
>     >
>     > If you have done so much changes in UI, i think now is a good
>     time to review
>     > all the translation issues, and evaluate the integration of gettext.
>     >
>     > Best Regards
>     > Jo?o Oliveira.
>     >
>     >
>     > On 3/31/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
>     > > Hi team,
>     > > i know vtiger CRM is on alpha stage, but you have to think
>     about other
>     > > lang for release.
>     > >
>     > > See image home2.jpg, the link go nowhere in french, work fine with
>     > english.
>     > >
>     > > For the left menu, the string are translated, but the link
>     too, so the
>     > > link go to "Hacking Attempt".
>     > >
>     > > Top menu strings are stored on DB in english, problematic for
>     translaters.
>     > >
>     > > UI, see activities.jpg screenshot, i'm using 1280x1024 screen.
>     > >
>     > > Screenshot calendar1.jpg , since vtiger 4.x, you use english
>     date format
>     > > here, in some others country we use different format (for
>     france, it's
>     > > Day month year).
>     > >
>     > > The code is may be best, may be optimized, but Call,
>     Meeting... Alway
>     > > harcoded, in few words, vtiger CRM 5 include more hardcoded
>     string as
>     > > vtiger CRM 4, that's bad, the community have lot of
>     expectations on
>     > > vtiger crm 5, you can't disappoint. Call that popularity !
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > A word about french training CRM for frenchie, the system is
>     on beta
>     > > test, i have sent 10 mails to users for testing, after
>     feedback i open
>     > > the system. I'm working on documentation, and commercial
>     papers, and
>     > > relation to promote vtiger outside community.
>     > >
>     > > Thanks to all for your efforts, and apologize for my english
>     > > A?ssa
>     > >
>     > > .
>     > >
>     > >
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr  3 04:23:56 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:23:56 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] To the vtiger 4.2.4 mainteneers
Message-ID: <443105CC.8070807@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
in 4.x branches (the 5.x branches work correctly), when we create a 
customview with customfields, we obtain an peardatabase error this is a 
beginning of fix posted by raccoon on french forum :

on utils.php search for :
function getListQuery($module,$where='')

replace the query :
$query = "select crmentity.*, quotes.*, quotesbillads.*, 
quotesshipads.*,potential.potentialname,account.accountname from quotes 
inner join crmentity on crmentity.crmid=quotes.quoteid inner join 
quotesbillads on quotes.quoteid=quotesbillads.quotebilladdressid inner 
join quotesshipads on quotes.quoteid=quotesshipads.quoteshipaddressid 
left outer join account on account.accountid=quotes.accountid left outer 
join potential on potential.potentialid=quotes.potentialid where 
crmentity.deleted=0".$where;

by this one :
( left join quotescf on quotes.quoteid = quotescf.quoteid added for 
module quotes)

$query = "select crmentity.*, quotes.*, quotesbillads.*, 
quotesshipads.*,potential.potentialname,account.accountname from quotes 
inner join crmentity on crmentity.crmid=quotes.quoteid inner join 
quotesbillads on quotes.quoteid=quotesbillads.quotebilladdressid inner 
join quotesshipads on quotes.quoteid=quotesshipads.quoteshipaddressid 
left outer join account on account.accountid=quotes.accountid left outer 
join potential on potential.potentialid=quotes.potentialid left join 
quotescf on quotes.quoteid = quotescf.quoteid where crmentity.deleted=0 
".$where;


in v5, you can find the query in /includes/utils/ListViewUtils.php.
Thanks


From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr  3 23:02:24 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 23:02:24 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed
In-Reply-To: <44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.03.21.18.48.23.560464@yahoo.com>
	<44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone out there testing this?

I've run all my tests and don't see any other problems with postgres
and I've given it a quick run through with mysql (again without
problems).

I'm sure there are still a few issues which could be found with more
eyes, but I'd say the changes are ready to be merged back into the
trunk as soon as 4.2.4 is created (any eta on this?).

It may be beneficial to leave the adodb debugging information in (see
ticket #69) until we get closer to the next release (4.2.5) as I find
it to be a huge help in tracking down (database) problems.

On 3/21/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
> > Allan Bush wrote:
> >
> >> Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the
> >> installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent,
> >> now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs.
> >>
> >
> > Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an
> > install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't
> > noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful
> > contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger.
> >
> > I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in
> > postgresql).
> Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance.
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Tue Apr  4 04:02:08 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:02:08 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 Postgres - Testers needed
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bec26390603201203l38ba49f4r8e6b1409e76b81df@mail.gmail.com>	<pan.2006.03.21.18.48.23.560464@yahoo.com>	<44206251.10305@mikefedyk.com>
	<3bec26390604032302j5d200408j685582587e7ee676@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44325230.4000603@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi allan,
i'm testing with postgre 8.1.
for the moment, i have only (lots) errors messages during install, but 
all is working during use, table are correctly created...
I continue the test.
Cheer,
A?ssa
Allan Bush a ?crit :

>Is anyone out there testing this?
>
>I've run all my tests and don't see any other problems with postgres
>and I've given it a quick run through with mysql (again without
>problems).
>
>I'm sure there are still a few issues which could be found with more
>eyes, but I'd say the changes are ready to be merged back into the
>trunk as soon as 4.2.4 is created (any eta on this?).
>
>It may be beneficial to leave the adodb debugging information in (see
>ticket #69) until we get closer to the next release (4.2.5) as I find
>it to be a huge help in tracking down (database) problems.
>
>On 3/21/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Allan Bush wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Alright I've checked the postgres patch into SVN, tweaked the
>>>>installation process and fixed some errors which were quite apparent,
>>>>now I need some extra eyes to help me find other bugs.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Allan, thanks very much for committing your changes. I had run through an
>>>install with the sample dataset shortly after your commit, and haven't
>>>noticed any functional defects yet. Congratulations on a very successful
>>>contribution. Postgresql compatibility is a tremendous addition to vtiger.
>>>
>>>I highly encourage others to test this branch (if you're interested in
>>>postgresql).
>>>      
>>>
>>Or for mysql regressions, which I will be doing when I get a chance.
>>
>>Mike
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>    
>>
>
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>  
>



From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr  4 18:50:48 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:50:48 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
Message-ID: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>

Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?

What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?

Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean 
on the field table?

mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
+--------------------------------------------------+
| typeofdata                                       |
+--------------------------------------------------+
| V~M                                              |
| V~O                                              |
| I~O                                              |
| E~O                                              |
| C~O                                              |
| T~O                                              |
| D~O                                              |
| D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
| N~O                                              |
| D~M                                              |
| D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
| D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
| DT~M~time_start                                  |
| D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
| O~O                                              |
| T~M                                              |
| I~M                                              |
+--------------------------------------------------+
This just confuses the hell out of me.


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr  4 21:30:30 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:30:30 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
In-Reply-To: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA6FaibYlvB0uuS3YI5vyrpQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Josh,

I have not the answer and I asked for explanation 2 month ago. I don't think
there is any, it is more probably some remaining thing from sugarcrm.

I worked a bit on that when migrating to mssql and found that it has to be
combined with uitype field:

 ("D","I","N")  are numeric, ("C","E","O") are not,
 "V" is numeric if uitype in (5,50,52,53,56,57)
 exceptions : tablename="contactdetails" columname="reportsto" uitype=57 ?
 "T" is numeric if uitype = 70

Not sure it helps, isn't it?

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Josh Lee
> Envoy??: mercredi 5 avril 2006 03:51
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com; vtigercrm-
> contributors at lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc?: Jeremy Lowery
> Objet?: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
> 
> Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?
> 
> What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?
> 
> Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean
> on the field table?
> 
> mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | typeofdata                                       |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | V~M                                              |
> | V~O                                              |
> | I~O                                              |
> | E~O                                              |
> | C~O                                              |
> | T~O                                              |
> | D~O                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
> | N~O                                              |
> | D~M                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
> | DT~M~time_start                                  |
> | D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
> | O~O                                              |
> | T~M                                              |
> | I~M                                              |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> This just confuses the hell out of me.
> 
> 
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net





From nolan at peaceworks.ca  Wed Apr  5 01:09:22 2006
From: nolan at peaceworks.ca (Nolan Andres)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 04:09:22 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Help please.
In-Reply-To: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
References: <44332278.7040707@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44337B32.7050202@peaceworks.ca>

"O" / "M" seems to mean Optional vs. Mandatory

(M means a required field, and gets the little red star)

I haven't investigated the V/E/I/C/T stuff too much, yet...when creating 
my own fields, I've just mimicked something existing that's similar to 
what I want...

peace,
Nokes


Josh Lee wrote:
> Anyone wanna give this one a whirl?
> 
> What are quickcreate | quickcreatesequence | info_type for?
> 
> Most especially, what the heck does V~O, V~M, E~O, I~O, C~O, or T~O mean 
> on the field table?
> 
> mysql> select distinct typeofdata from field;
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | typeofdata                                       |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> | V~M                                              |
> | V~O                                              |
> | I~O                                              |
> | E~O                                              |
> | C~O                                              |
> | T~O                                              |
> | D~O                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~support_start_date~Support Start Date |
> | N~O                                              |
> | D~M                                              |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~sales_start_date~Sales Start Date     |
> | D~O~OTH~GE~start_date~Start Date                 |
> | DT~M~time_start                                  |
> | D~M~OTH~GE~date_start~Start Date & Time          |
> | O~O                                              |
> | T~M                                              |
> | I~M                                              |
> +--------------------------------------------------+
> This just confuses the hell out of me.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Apr  6 06:33:22 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:03:22 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
Message-ID: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>

Guys,

Need your quick help.

We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into one 
UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send mails 
using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming list, 
pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category called 
"Qualified CRM emails".

I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a single 
tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the Inbox tree. 
Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable UI based on 
your views.

- Saint


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From jlee at zertis.net  Thu Apr  6 07:10:42 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:10:42 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>

I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I 
wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail 
for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
Saint wrote:

> Guys,
>
> Need your quick help.
>
> We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into 
> one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send 
> mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming 
> list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category 
> called "Qualified CRM emails".
>
> I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
> version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a 
> single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the 
> Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable 
> UI based on your views.
>
> - Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 07:42:07 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:42:07 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>

I have to agree with Josh,

I like the second one better.   Tabs can be a good thing, or if over used,
can be a bad thing.    The second one is a cleaner, better flow look.

Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it
don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it.


Jamie


On 4/6/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
> wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
> for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > Need your quick help.
> >
> > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into
> > one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
> > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> > called "Qualified CRM emails".
> >
> > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab
> > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the
> > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable
> > UI based on your views.
> >
> > - Saint
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 07:59:52 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:59:52 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>

saint, I also like the 2nd option,

but why not let do that job to the mail server ?

I mean, you just create a "CRM" folder in the mail store (be it pop3
or imap) and be done with that !

you still have to show all the folders, so this way, you knock two
birds with one stone.


/sak

On 4/6/06, Jamie Jackson <jamieinnh at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have to agree with Josh,
>
> I like the second one better.   Tabs can be a good thing, or if over used,
> can be a bad thing.    The second one is a cleaner, better flow look.
>
> Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it
> don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it.
>
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
> On 4/6/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> > I like the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
> > wouldn't use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
> > for it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > Need your quick help.
> > >
> > > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email accessibility into
> > > one UI. From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
> > > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> > > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> > > called "Qualified CRM emails".
> > >
> > > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin tab
> > > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> > > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into the
> > > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the best usable
> > > UI based on your views.
> > >
> > > - Saint
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>



From larenas at internext.com.mx  Thu Apr  6 01:39:48 2006
From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:39:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] I suggest a change on SaveSalesorder.php
In-Reply-To: <49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com>
	<44352162.6040504@zertis.net>	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604060759w7dd10b98u5faab6d1ffd44251@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4434D3D4.9050804@internext.com.mx>

foreach($focus->column_fields as $fieldname => $val)
{
       
        if(isset($_REQUEST[$fieldname]))
   {
       $value = $_REQUEST[$fieldname];
       $match = stristr($fieldname,'id');
     ***** NEW LINEs*****
       if($match != '0' && empty($value))$value = '0';
      elseif($match == '0' && empty($value)) $value = 'null';
          
        
         
        //echo '<BR>';
       //echo $fieldname."         ".$value;
       //echo '<BR>';
       $focus->column_fields[$fieldname] = $value;
   }
       
}




From developer at infointegrated.com  Thu Apr  6 11:44:35 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:44:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>



I also agree about the second one defintely being the preferred layout. I
would still use webmail with POP, though I would also prefer IMAP
support.

Brian


 I
have to agree with Josh,

I like the second one better.   Tabs
can be a good thing, or if over used, can be a bad thing.    The second
one is a cleaner, better flow look.

Also, with the question of
IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one.   if it don't or won't use IMAP,
then I wouldn't use it.    


Jamie



On 4/6/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net>
wrote: I like
the second one more, however if it does not support IMAP, I
wouldn't
use it.  I was under the impression that vtiger used squirlmail
for
it's email backed.  If that is true, then it should support IMAP.
Saint wrote: 

> Guys,
>
> Need your quick
help.
>
> We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and
Email accessibility into
> one UI.
>From a single UI, you can
receive all your POP mails and send
 > mails using SMTP. And if
there is a qualifiable email in that incoming
> list, pertaining
to CRM, , a user can move that email to a category
> called
"Qualified CRM emails".
>
> I have attached two
images with this email. One shows a twin tab 
> version: "All
Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another is a
> single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed into
the
> Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the
best usable 
> UI based on your views.
>
> -
Saint
>
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------

>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored
by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper &
palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
Planner for FREE instead!  http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>


--
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net 



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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Thu Apr  6 12:51:00 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:51:00 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
Message-ID: <1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>

It supports every protocol that's handled by the PHP IMAP functions
which includes POP and IMAP (i havent tested POP yet).

Matt

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:44 -0500, Brian Devendorf wrote:
> I also agree about the second one defintely being the preferred
> layout. I would still use webmail with POP, though I would also prefer
> IMAP support.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> I have to agree with Josh,
> 
> I like the second one better. Tabs can be a good thing, or if over
> used, can be a bad thing. The second one is a cleaner, better flow
> look.
> 
> Also, with the question of IMAP, I am with Josh again on this one. if
> it don't or won't use IMAP, then I wouldn't use it. 
> 
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> On 4/6/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>         I like the second one more, however if it does not support
>         IMAP, I
>         wouldn't use it. I was under the impression that vtiger used
>         squirlmail
>         for it's email backed. If that is true, then it should support
>         IMAP.
>         Saint wrote: 
>         
>         > Guys,
>         >
>         > Need your quick help.
>         >
>         > We are integrating the vtiger's Webmail and Email
>         accessibility into
>         > one UI.
>         From a single UI, you can receive all your POP mails and send
>         > mails using SMTP. And if there is a qualifiable email in
>         that incoming
>         > list, pertaining to CRM, , a user can move that email to a
>         category
>         > called "Qualified CRM emails".
>         >
>         > I have attached two images with this email. One shows a twin
>         tab 
>         > version: "All Emails" + "Qualified CRM Emails". And another
>         is a
>         > single tab version, with the Qualified CRM Emails clubbed
>         into the
>         > Inbox tree. Evaluate both UIs, and help us to choose the
>         best usable 
>         > UI based on your views.
>         >
>         > - Saint
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>         >
>         >------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         >
>         >_______________________________________________
>         >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
>         scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your
>         hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
>         Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>         >
>         
>         
>         --
>         Josh Lee
>         Software Engineer
>         Zertis Technologies, LLC
>         205.422.5279
>         jlee at zertis.net 
>         
>         
>         
>         _______________________________________________
>         This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
>         scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your
>         hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
>         Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>         
>         
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From larenas at internext.com.mx  Thu Apr  6 08:03:50 2006
From: larenas at internext.com.mx (Luis Alberto Arenas Salinas)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:03:50 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Some body can send me a how-to integrate
	webmail on vtiger
Message-ID: <44352DD6.5080207@internext.com.mx>

Please, l'd like know how i can integrate webmail on crm.


From libregeek at gmail.com  Thu Apr  6 23:24:48 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:54:48 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Vtiger Email - UI
In-Reply-To: <1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <443518A2.4030506@vtiger.com> <44352162.6040504@zertis.net>
	<994473020604060742n1132108at771891b7701e937d@mail.gmail.com>
	<60749.130.36.62.129.1144349075.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
	<1144353060.2976.25.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <2315046d0604062324j7407b608m5068d79c3b6840b4@mail.gmail.com>

Saint,
  I do agree with Sergio's suggestion. I would like to use IMAP and
use the same folder structure in the server. In the case of UI, I
would like to use the second one, because it's less cluttered.

regards
Manilal



From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr  6 23:59:35 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie at vtiger.com)
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:59:35 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Security Document
Message-ID: <10a7326101c.3472802742984349963.194233641965351292@@vtiger.com>

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From pigeonflight at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 06:38:54 2006
From: pigeonflight at gmail.com (david bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:38:54 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
Message-ID: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>

I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan to
dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2 years. I
would like to accomplish the following:


   - be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
   based on type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
   use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig
   to be able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to
   authorize this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send
   message to hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since
   a normal customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
    - master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and
   required completion time
   use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
   them outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
   overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
   - ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
   use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
   how many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
   resolved based on predetermined completion times
   - call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
   number of calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
   - talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
   additional customer data stored on a different server and then store that
   data locally in the vTiger database.
   use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
   an external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
   with the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased
   and the time of purchase and failed purchases)

I'm especially interested in how much of this can already be accomplished in
vTiger and whether the balance can realistically be accomplished in 5
dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer hours and lots of posts to the mailing
list/discussion boards etc..)
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From david.bain at alteroo.com  Fri Apr  7 08:49:43 2006
From: david.bain at alteroo.com (David Bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:49:43 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha
Message-ID: <f433ff170604070849y59485a1fw1457fb72ab8c576d@mail.gmail.com>

for a new role out of vtiger (translation) in the next 2 weeks, should we be
considering 4.x or 5 alpha release.
What are the pros and cons?
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 11:32:02 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:32:02 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)

just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
can...

/sak

On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan to
> dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2 years. I
> would like to accomplish the following:
>
>
>
> be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager based on
> type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
>  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to be
> able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message to
> hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a normal
> customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
>
> master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> completion time
>  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows them
> outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
>
> ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
>  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see how
> many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> resolved based on predetermined completion times
>
> call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the number of
> calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> additional customer data stored on a different server and then store that
> data locally in the vTiger database.
>  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on an
> external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself with
> the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the time
> of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much of
> this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer hours
> and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>



From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 11:34:27 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:34:27 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] mike ?
Message-ID: <49216030604071134l4cc50173ja086c0cba39d0281@mail.gmail.com>

what happened to mike fedyk ?
it seems like he dissapeared...

/sak



From david.bain at alteroo.com  Fri Apr  7 11:52:42 2006
From: david.bain at alteroo.com (David Bain)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:52:42 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>

Is that a general comment about SOAP or is it related to php and SOAP? Bear
in mind that it would be vtiger acting as a SOAP client. The provider of the
webservice is running a .net platform, I'm not well informed about how
easily they could roll out a REST based solution.

How much of the stuff is already there in vtiger?
If 5 days (40 hours) is too little.
What is a more realistic estimate?

On 4/7/06, Sergio A. Kessler <sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)
>
> just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
> will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
> can...
>
> /sak
>
> On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan
> to
> > dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> > experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2
> years. I
> > would like to accomplish the following:
> >
> >
> >
> > be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
> based on
> > type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
> >  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to
> be
> > able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> > this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message
> to
> > hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a
> normal
> > customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
> >
> > master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> > completion time
> >  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
> them
> > outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> > overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
> >
> > ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
> >  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
> how
> > many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> > resolved based on predetermined completion times
> >
> > call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
> number of
> > calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> > talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> > additional customer data stored on a different server and then store
> that
> > data locally in the vTiger database.
> >  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
> an
> > external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
> with
> > the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the
> time
> > of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much
> of
> > this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> > realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer
> hours
> > and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From werk at r2g.nl  Fri Apr  7 12:21:43 2006
From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 21:21:43 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604070849y59485a1fw1457fb72ab8c576d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEFLCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>

David,

Why are you asking this? As programmer you should also know de answer as I'm
only a heavy user: the choice between an alpha and stable version for
translation?
Or are you considering the change of hard coded items to strings used for
multiple languages?

Regards, Remco


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  Verzonden: vrijdag 7 april 2006 17:50
  Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
  Onderwerp: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2 or alpha


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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Fri Apr  7 13:26:54 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:26:54 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Customizing vTiger to do extra cool stuff
In-Reply-To: <f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f433ff170604070638q2d6bcc73jb7618543a63e8a38@mail.gmail.com>
	<49216030604071132m685f0aa3m888ffa4e05f2d09d@mail.gmail.com>
	<f433ff170604071152q4e3aca23id82721cbdfd3ec56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49216030604071326l6c0f4a49q4d1705c9232ef85e@mail.gmail.com>

a general comment about SOAP (I couldn't resist).

REST is orders of magnitude more simple (debugging is trivial), and
you only need a xml parser and support for http calls, and I bet that
.net has that.

/sak

On 4/7/06, David Bain <david.bain at alteroo.com> wrote:
> Is that a general comment about SOAP or is it related to php and SOAP? Bear
> in mind that it would be vtiger acting as a SOAP client. The provider of the
> webservice is running a .net platform, I'm not well informed about how
> easily they could roll out a REST based solution.
>
>  How much of the stuff is already there in vtiger?
>  If 5 days (40 hours) is too little.
>  What is a more realistic estimate?
>
>
> On 4/7/06, Sergio A. Kessler <sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't think you can do that only in 5 days, but be my guest  ;-)
> >
> > just a minor note: for web services, avoid SOAP like the plague (it
> > will eat your 40 hours before you wake up), use REST instead if you
> > can...
> >
> > /sak
> >
> > On 4/7/06, david bain <pigeonflight at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm new to vTiger so forgive me if my expectations are too high. I plan
> to
> > > dedicate 5 days solely to vTiger, I have significant php and mysql
> > > experience, though I've been mostly coding in python for the last 2
> years. I
> > > would like to accomplish the following:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > be able to transfer/assign tasks to appropriate persons csr/manager
> based on
> > > type of action, possibly categorized by authorization level
> > >  use case: customer calls the help desk and wants their thingy ma jig to
> be
> > > able to send messages to hong kong, this requires a manager to authorize
> > > this. The customer rep creates a "request" in vtiger for "send message
> to
> > > hongkong ability" this automatically assigned to a manager since a
> normal
> > > customer rep cannot accomplish this task.
> > >
> > > master screen where a manager can see outstanding items and required
> > > completion time
> > >  use case: a manager logs in and goes to their master screen. It shows
> them
> > > outstanding tasks with a live countdown to when it will become overdue,
> > > overdue tasks are highlighted in a different color.
> > >
> > > ability to assess csr performance based on time task is completed
> > >  use case: a manager goes to an area in vtiger which allows them to see
> how
> > > many calls were fielded by customer rep x and how quickly issues were
> > > resolved based on predetermined completion times
> > >
> > > call type differentiation - should be able to show a report of the
> number of
> > > calls grouped by type (10 balance requests, 15 signups.)
> > > talk to an external webservice via SOAP, should be possible to pull
> > > additional customer data stored on a different server and then store
> that
> > > data locally in the vTiger database.
> > >  use case: customer transaction history for web purchases are stored on
> an
> > > external website. vTiger works with an hourly cronjob to update itself
> with
> > > the latest purchase history of customers (e.g. items purchased and the
> time
> > > of purchase and failed purchases) I'm especially interested in how much
> of
> > > this can already be accomplished in vTiger and whether the balance can
> > > realistically be accomplished in 5 dedicated days (i.e. 40 programmer
> hours
> > > and lots of posts to the mailing list/discussion boards etc..)
> > >
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From brian at pr2k.com  Fri Apr  7 13:22:19 2006
From: brian at pr2k.com (Brian Laughlin)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:22:19 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers]  mike ?
Message-ID: <27CABE0A5EFD714EA5B2F9B47EE5CB855BC4F9@svawmc1.awnow.local>

 

what happened to mike fedyk ?
it seems like he dissapeared...

/sak

I IM him not too long ago.  He's dealing with a few things and said that
he should be in the swing of things shortly.

/BrianLaughlin



From jamieinnh at gmail.com  Sun Apr  9 20:31:38 2006
From: jamieinnh at gmail.com (Jamie Jackson)
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 23:31:38 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Migration Tools
Message-ID: <994473020604092031x3f94f99ev2b40de2ce24d4721@mail.gmail.com>

I know this was discussed before, but is anyone seeing all the requests to
migrate from Sugar to vTiger?   Is there a tool that works with their latest
version?

Jamie
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From richie at vtiger.com  Sun Apr  9 21:17:29 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie at vtiger.com)
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:17:29 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
Message-ID: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>

Hi!

Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been included.
The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.

Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it admirably.
I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we had earlier.
Bravo Michel!

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Mon Apr 10 00:24:53 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:24:53 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Font support in Image Graph
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi all,

 

We are able to supply true type fonts thru Image Graph bundle.

Does anybody have some knowledge on font copyrights?

Is there a site where to find this kind of info?

Are Linux ttf files the same than windows?

 

Michel

 

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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Mon Apr 10 02:54:50 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:54:50 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Font support in Image Graph
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA4HeeQ0idmUys/2AsQ3GiBAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <443A2B6A.9000409@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Michel,
i think you can use bitstream vera fonts, the ttf files are the same for 
linux & windows.
The copyright allow to modify and redistribute.
You can find the copyright here : http://www.gnome.org/fonts/
Bitstream vera fonts are bundled with gnome, kde, openoffice... and lot 
of others freesoftware.
Thanks for your work on graph.
A?ssa.

Michel JACQUEMES a ?crit :

> Hi all,
>
>  
>
> We are able to supply true type fonts thru Image Graph bundle.
>
> Does anybody have some knowledge on font copyrights?
>
> Is there a site where to find this kind of info?
>
> Are Linux ttf files the same than windows?
>
>  
>
> Michel
>
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From libregeek at gmail.com  Mon Apr 10 03:53:54 2006
From: libregeek at gmail.com (Manilal K M)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:23:54 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Patch for vtiger-5
Message-ID: <2315046d0604100353h6a0b7a4by98866e36cf944af5@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,
   I'm not sure where to post the patches for vtiger5. Should I use
the Code Contributions to vtiger-5?
However I have submitted some simple patches to the Announcement
forum. The link to the forum is
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23176#23176

I have only very little experience in hacking vtiger. I think these
patches will be useful for the community.

regards
Manilal



From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr 11 14:26:10 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:26:10 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>

I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation 
with all of you.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Tue Apr 11 14:32:55 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:32:55 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Develpler guide.
In-Reply-To: <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <443C2087.60007@zertis.net>

Ah, I forgot to give Mike Crrowe credit on part of that Developer guide.
Some of that was a copy paste off of his blog, sorry Mike.  Your name 
will be in the next version.

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 11 20:40:25 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:40:25 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAApvPJDzh/BUutqtxOWCvg8QEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Josh, congratulations! You started a great job.
I will do my part on dashboard guide.

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Josh Lee
> Envoy??: mardi 11 avril 2006 23:26
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
> 
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation
> with all of you.
> 
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net





From dan.means at teamsrs.com  Tue Apr 11 22:08:02 2006
From: dan.means at teamsrs.com (Dan Means)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:08:02 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <443C8B32.3010600@teamsrs.com>

Great job Josh -- I've been scribbling lots of this stuff down moding up 
the sales order modules -- if I can contribute let me know.

I've managed to get a lot of extra fields into the various blocks, 
mostly in the products section (my client has lots of warehouses / 
locations)....

Josh Lee wrote:
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this 
> documentation with all of you.
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 

-- 
Dan Means
Mission Viejo, CA
www.dkmeansonline.com
www.teamsrs.com



From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 11 16:27:13 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:27:13 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net> <4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>

What application can I use to open the *vTigerCRM Notes.odt*
 file?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/11/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
> Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this documentation
> with all of you.
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Tue Apr 11 22:51:16 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:51:16 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4421AE3C.1080704@zertis.net>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
	<677641040604111627hc3edc89hcaa52598bda47031@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443C9554.2080303@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi Jorge,
use openoffice 2

Jorge Garifuna a ?crit :

> What application can I use to open the *vTigerCRM Notes.odt*
>  file?
>  
> -- 
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com
>
>  
> On 4/11/06, *Josh Lee* <jlee at zertis.net <mailto:jlee at zertis.net>> wrote:
>
>     I started this out today, I will probebly put more into it later.
>     Hope this gives you guys a hand, I would love to grow this
>     documentation
>     with all of you.
>
>     --
>     Josh Lee
>     Software Engineer
>     Zertis Technologies, LLC
>     205.422.5279
>     jlee at zertis.net <mailto:jlee at zertis.net>
>
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com> email is sponsored by Zoho
>     Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper &
>     palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer
>     online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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From richie at vtiger.com  Wed Apr 12 03:18:59 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (richie at vtiger.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 03:18:59 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP Optimizer to use?
Message-ID: <10a8d9c6b1c.-5546871847639394966.-7110740342565802342@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

I plan to use a php optimizer along with the product.
Which optimizer do you suggest that we use please?

APC
e-Accelerator
Zend
etc

Please note, it needs to be open source or something that permits us to bundle 
the same.

Richie
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From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Apr 12 04:12:25 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:12:25 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>
	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com> <443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>

nice work josh.

i started similar project on http://vtiger.fosslabs.com wiki.
please add your document on the wiki, that help to do collaborative work to 
achieve developer guide goal.

side notes :
keep in mind that vtiger provide an API documentation using phpDocumentor and 
that our documents could fit nicely beside this documentation.
> As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a
> rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is
> doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form
> similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on
> accomplishing this task.

cheers,

Fathi


From fboudra at free.fr  Wed Apr 12 04:13:51 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:13:51 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>
References: <10a8204bd60.8656688004087721267.-2245894088380246158@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <200604121313.51946.fboudra@free.fr>

> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been included.
> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>
> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> had earlier. Bravo Michel!

congratulations !!!
thanks michel.


From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Wed Apr 12 05:45:58 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:45:58 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <200604121313.51946.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA37V09tggw02w/ZNLgnIk1wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

You're welcome Fathi

Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
Hi Mike, what do we do?

Michel
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> Envoy??: mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> 
> > Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> included.
> > The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >
> > Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> > admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> > had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> 
> congratulations !!!
> thanks michel.
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From werk at r2g.nl  Wed Apr 12 06:06:16 2006
From: werk at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:06:16 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA37V09tggw02w/ZNLgnIk1wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>

Hi Mike,

I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new in
vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.

Regrads,

Remco


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
JACQUEMES
Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced


You're welcome Fathi

Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
Hi Mike, what do we do?

Michel
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> Envoy??: mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
> > Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> included.
> > The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >
> > Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> > admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
> > had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>
> congratulations !!!
> thanks michel.
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 06:35:08 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:35:08 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] PHP Optimizer to use?
In-Reply-To: <-293363331911076467@unknownmsgid>
References: <-293363331911076467@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030604120635p53b44badi7df5dd0ee2514c8a@mail.gmail.com>

AFAIK, APC is the only open source one, that is mantained...
(and the APC mantainer is rasmus, the same guy that created php)

/sak

On 4/12/06, richie at vtiger.com <richie at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I plan to use a php optimizer along with the product.
> Which optimizer do you suggest that we use please?
>
> APC
> e-Accelerator
> Zend
> etc
>
> Please note, it needs to be open source or something
> that permits us to bundle
> the same.
>
> Richie
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
>



From don at vtiger.com  Wed Apr 12 07:58:08 2006
From: don at vtiger.com (don at vtiger.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:58:08 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
Message-ID: <10a8e9bfc4f.907995375215913911.-4148391941192291052@@vtiger.com>

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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 08:40:09 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>

Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>



From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 08:40:09 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>

Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>



From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 09:17:14 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:17:14 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Developer Guide.
In-Reply-To: <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <109ba5f3a8b.2192512078289913380.-9026032619003050853@@vtiger.com>	<4421BF83.2050204@mikefedyk.com>
	<443C1EF2.8040009@zertis.net> <200604121312.25856.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <443D280A.40700@zertis.net>

Here is an updated version.

Fathi, I understand how a wiki works, however I don't see an edit link.  
Do I have to be logged in?  If so where do I sign up? 

Side note, if you guys send me whatever notes you have in MSWord, 
OpenOffice or even txt I will do my best to add them into this.

Fathi Boudra wrote:

>nice work josh.
>
>i started similar project on http://vtiger.fosslabs.com wiki.
>please add your document on the wiki, that help to do collaborative work to 
>achieve developer guide goal.
>
>side notes :
>keep in mind that vtiger provide an API documentation using phpDocumentor and 
>that our documents could fit nicely beside this documentation.
>  
>
>>As you may be aware of that we are providing API docs for vtiger 5 for a
>>rapid development. We are using phpDocumentor for this purpose, which is
>>doing a fair job. But we would like incorporate "Add a Note"  feedback form
>>similar to php.net functions. Please do let us know your suggestions on
>>accomplishing this task.
>>    
>>
>
>cheers,
>
>Fathi
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>  
>


-- 
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Software Engineer
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205.422.5279
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From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 12:19:14 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:19:14 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger CRM Develper Guide.
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References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<3bec26390604120840o3106604cu42125cfb66e5c539@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443D52B2.7010505@zertis.net>

Ok, this is getting silly, I am updating this thing way to often, I need 
to put it in svn somewhere.
Fathi could you set this up for me?  Could you create a usename jlee and 
email me a password using your svn repository for this thing?

Here is another updated version.


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Software Engineer
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205.422.5279
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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Wed Apr 12 12:55:09 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:55:09 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>

Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):

*	
	PHP 5+
*	
	MySQL 5.1+
*	
	Apache 2+ (??)

...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
 
On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
 
Regards,
 
- Joel

________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status



Don,

That's very informative, thank you.

Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
20-25 working days?

I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.

Thanks

On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> This document will give an insight on the
> features/fixes that we are currently
> working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> is completed, we will be doing a full
> scale validation and all
> the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> of these issues based on severity and
> then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>

_______________________________________________
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 12 13:47:37 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:47:37 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.12.20.47.34.148836@yahoo.com>

Joel Rydbeck wrote:
> Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand
> vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I
> realize right now these are requirements):
(...)
> I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been
> some commitment to supporting that down the road.

I think it would be a huge mistake to promote vtigercrm-5.0.0 from alpha
beta status without merging postgresql support similar to that found in
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration.

Postgresql support from the start is a serious requirement. AFAICT, the
decision for a user to deploy vtigercrm on either mysql or postgresql is
one-way and permanent, I don't think there are any migration tools being
offered here to reliably handle a conversion as complex as a fully
populated vtigercrm dataset.

We are keeping the diff on that branch to the minimum required changes for
postgresql support a) to ease merging back to vtigercrm/branches/4.2
immediately after vtigercrm/branches/vtigercrm-4.2.4, and b) to make it
easier for the vtiger dev team to merge the same changes into the trunk
ASAP.

svn diff
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration
http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 (it's a long
diff, but consistent in its changes)



From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 13:52:04 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:52:04 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <443D6874.2020402@zertis.net>

I was unaware of PHP 5 requirements, as I am running vtiger5 on php4.

Joel Rydbeck wrote:

>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>
>*	
>	PHP 5+
>*	
>	MySQL 5.1+
>*	
>	Apache 2+ (??)
>
>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
> 
>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
> 
>Regards,
> 
>- Joel
>
>________________________________
>
>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>
>
>
>Don,
>
>That's very informative, thank you.
>
>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
>20-25 working days?
>
>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>
>Thanks
>
>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
>>This document will give an insight on the
>>features/fixes that we are currently
>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
>>is completed, we will be doing a full
>>scale validation and all
>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
>>of these issues based on severity and
>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>>
>>Thanks & Regards,
>>Don
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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>


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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 14:36:14 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:36:14 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>

I think postgresql is a must,
I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...

and I'm not talking about features,
I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
from mysql, that's it)...

/sak

On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
> Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>
> *
>         PHP 5+
> *
>         MySQL 5.1+
> *
>         Apache 2+ (??)
>
> ...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
>
> On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
>
> Regards,
>
> - Joel
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
> Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>
>
>
> Don,
>
> That's very informative, thank you.
>
> Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
> understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
> full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
> 20-25 working days?
>
> I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
> would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>
> Thanks
>
> On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> > available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> > This document will give an insight on the
> > features/fixes that we are currently
> > working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> > Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> > is completed, we will be doing a full
> > scale validation and all
> > the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> > of these issues based on severity and
> > then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> > Don
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>



From jlee at zertis.net  Wed Apr 12 14:50:12 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:50:12 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
	<49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>

:-/ Mysql "classic" is the version you get as a developer without paying 
a license.  If you want a license you can get mysql pro. 
http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/

Since vTigerCRM is open source, I believe vtiger falls into the GPL 
License for mysql.   Either way, it is completely free and from my 
understanding we don't need a license.

Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>I think postgresql is a must,
>I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...
>
>and I'm not talking about features,
>I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
>from mysql, that's it)...
>
>/sak
>
>On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
>>
>>*
>>        PHP 5+
>>*
>>        MySQL 5.1+
>>*
>>        Apache 2+ (??)
>>
>>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
>>
>>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>- Joel
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
>>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
>>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
>>
>>
>>
>>Don,
>>
>>That's very informative, thank you.
>>
>>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
>>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
>>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
>>20-25 working days?
>>
>>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
>>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
>>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
>>>This document will give an insight on the
>>>features/fixes that we are currently
>>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
>>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
>>>is completed, we will be doing a full
>>>scale validation and all
>>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
>>>of these issues based on severity and
>>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
>>>
>>>Thanks & Regards,
>>>Don
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
>>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>  
>


-- 
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Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 12 16:09:07 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:09:07 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
In-Reply-To: <443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>
References: <-224127289454991637@unknownmsgid>
	<000201c65e48$16bcdc50$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
	<BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B737C@office.nubrek.local>
	<49216030604121436l1060df3bi14e601e2fec11e23@mail.gmail.com>
	<443D7614.6070706@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <49216030604121609t28f484edl93bc9f0b5ddb2d61@mail.gmail.com>

yes, vtigerCrm is open source and the team or company behind it does
not need a mysql licence, that is clear.

but what happens when YOU start customizing it and deploy it to customers ?

"MySQL AB always recommends that proprietary (non-Free
Software/non-Open Source) use of MySQL be done with the commercial
non-GPL version of MySQL."

note the word "use"

/sak

On 4/12/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> :-/ Mysql "classic" is the version you get as a developer without paying
> a license.  If you want a license you can get mysql pro.
> http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/
>
> Since vTigerCRM is open source, I believe vtiger falls into the GPL
> License for mysql.   Either way, it is completely free and from my
> understanding we don't need a license.
>
> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
> >I think postgresql is a must,
> >I just don't feel confident deploying a comercial mysql solution...
> >
> >and I'm not talking about features,
> >I'm talking about legal status (without obtaining a comercial licence
> >from mysql, that's it)...
> >
> >/sak
> >
> >On 4/12/06, Joel Rydbeck <Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Forgive my ignorance here, but I want to make certain that I understand vtiger CRM 5 platform requirements correctly as it goes to market (I realize right now these are requirements):
> >>
> >>*
> >>        PHP 5+
> >>*
> >>        MySQL 5.1+
> >>*
> >>        Apache 2+ (??)
> >>
> >>...is there anything else?  I have not looked at the source code, but I'm curious how close it is to a PostgreSQL port.  I see there has been some commitment to supporting that down the road.
> >>
> >>On another note, I drafted an integration document of sorts for 4.2 --if anyone is interested let me know.  The absence of an API made it a bit messier, but it is a good start to building modules.  We could throw it next to Josh's in SVN.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>- Joel
> >>
> >>________________________________
> >>
> >>From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Allan Bush
> >>Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 10:45 AM
> >>To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiiger CRM 5 Beta Development Status
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Don,
> >>
> >>That's very informative, thank you.
> >>
> >>Going through that document I count ~100 days of work planned.  My
> >>understanding is there are 4 or 5 core developers working pretty much
> >>full time (am I right here?) so should we expect the beta release in
> >>20-25 working days?
> >>
> >>I'm not trying to nag it's just a question that comes up a lot and it
> >>would be nice to have some kind of approximation to give.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>On 4/12/06, don at vtiger.com <don at vtiger.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>The status of develpment for vtiger CRM 5 Beta is
> >>>available in the attached 5betaplan.html
> >>>This document will give an insight on the
> >>>features/fixes that we are currently
> >>>working for vtiger CRM 5 beta.
> >>>Once all the features/fixes listed in the document
> >>>is completed, we will be doing a full
> >>>scale validation and all
> >>>the issues will be captured in http://vtiger.fosslabs.com. We will fix most
> >>>of these issues based on severity and
> >>>then will go about in releasing the vtigerCRM 5 Beta.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks & Regards,
> >>>Don
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> >>>your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> >>>personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>>http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>



From saint at vtiger.com  Fri Apr 14 11:57:04 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:27:04 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
Message-ID: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>

Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and find 
your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.

The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.

The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in colored 
paper visuals.

I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most of 
the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.

Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)

Saint


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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Fri Apr 14 12:25:07 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:25:07 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443FF713.1070902@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi saint,
nice work i like it.
Cool, professionnal, informative.
If you can, use it on 5.0.

A?ssa

Saint a ?crit :

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
>
> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
>
> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
> colored paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most 
> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
>
> Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>



From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 12:41:57 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:41:57 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>

I like it.
Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be 
interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.  
He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put 
in the home page from 4.2.3

Saint wrote:

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
>
> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that 
> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
>
> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
> colored paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most 
> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
>
> Saint
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 14:21:20 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:21:20 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 5 Alpha.
In-Reply-To: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44401250.6030900@zertis.net>

Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail view.
Simple probelm simple fix.

includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
At the bottom of the file change this:

    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
    {
        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
                $key1=$keys[0];
        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
        {
                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
                    $key2=$keys[0];
        }
        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
$label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
    }
    return $return_data;


To this:

    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
    {
       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
        $key1 = null;
        $key2 = null;
       // Done adding
        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
                $key1=$keys[0];
        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
        {
                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
                    $key2=$keys[0];
        }
        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
$label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
    }
    return $return_data;


Hope this helps!

-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From jlee at zertis.net  Fri Apr 14 19:36:24 2006
From: jlee at zertis.net (Josh Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:36:24 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 4.2.3 Calendar bugfix.
In-Reply-To: <44401250.6030900@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<44401250.6030900@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <44405C28.5090009@zertis.net>

4.2.3 Bugfix for calendar

calendar month around line 236

        else
        { // day overlaps by Fredy
            if ( $today == Date("Ymd",$ts)){
                $col = "ol-today";
            }
            else if ($wd == 6) {
                $col = "ol-holiday";
            }
          else if ($wd == 5) {
             $col = "ol-freeday";
                }
            else if ($xm != $m ) {
                $col = "ol-otherday";
            }
            else  {
                $col = "ol-appday";
            }
        }


Josh Lee wrote:

> Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail view.
> Simple probelm simple fix.
>
> includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
> At the bottom of the file change this:
>
>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>    {
>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>                $key1=$keys[0];
>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>        {
>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>        }
>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
> $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>    }
>    return $return_data;
>
>
> To this:
>
>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>    {
>       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
>        $key1 = null;
>        $key2 = null;
>       // Done adding
>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>                $key1=$keys[0];
>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>        {
>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>        }
>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 => 
> $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>    }
>    return $return_data;
>
>
> Hope this helps!
>
>_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>


-- 
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net

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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Fri Apr 14 20:34:13 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 05:34:13 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAqlIhhtjpX0yY09ug5zRMRQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Saint,

 

A good idea, I think, to have a layout disposal made of blocks.

Do you think it will be a heavy work to let the user choose in preferences
what information he wants to see in each block.

We have to have in mind that in some large companies people have different
functions. Sales manager won?t be interested in same information than store
manager, and so on.

 

About graphs, something I am beginning to know well :-), have in mind that
we can imagine something more sophisticated than what we have done till now.
Have a look at this page:

 

http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Saint
Envoy? : vendredi 14 avril 2006 20:57
? : LANCER : Developers List
Objet : [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

 

Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and find your
opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.

The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that weeks
historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.

The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in colored
paper visuals.

I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most of the
CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, modifications
etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement for what we have
currently - the spiral book type UI.

Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)

Saint



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From jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com  Fri Apr 14 13:39:45 2006
From: jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:39:45 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
Message-ID: <677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>

I think the interface looks nice.

I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing  link:

http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html

- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as
well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily
change the settings.

- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if
the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she
can easily have that option.


--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com

On 4/14/06, Josh Lee <jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
>
> I like it.
> Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
> interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.
> He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
> in the home page from 4.2.3
>
> Saint wrote:
>
> > Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and
> > find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger.
> >
> > The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> > The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> > The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
> > weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
> >
> > The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> > colored paper visuals.
> >
> > I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
> > of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts,
> > modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> > for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
> >
> > Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
> >
> > Saint
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Lee
> Software Engineer
> Zertis Technologies, LLC
> 205.422.5279
> jlee at zertis.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
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From developer at infointegrated.com  Sat Apr 15 07:20:30 2006
From: developer at infointegrated.com (Brian Devendorf)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:20:30 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
	<677641040604141339o786cb262x18c25ace3b7de898@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>



I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to
select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic.
Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double
width, double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger
size. Also, the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or
have it based on screen size), 

I must say this is the best
home page implementation I have seen yet. Great work, Saint!

Brian



I think the interface looks nice.
 
I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if
it could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
wants.
 
- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing 
link:
 
http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html
 
- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable
as well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can
easily change the settings.
 
- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range
so if the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range)
he/she can easily have that option.
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 
 
On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net>
wrote: I
like it.
Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that
you all might be
interested to know that I have a client whom I
installed vtiger5 for. 
He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that
he is paying to have me put
in the home page from 4.2.3

Saint wrote:

> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought
better, to give a shot and
> find your opinions. This is the 3x3
matrix idea for home page of vtiger. 
>
> The first row
shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> The Second row shows
Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> The third row is nothing but
a small graphical representation of that
> weeks historical data
about Leads, Potentials and Contacts. 
>
> The Upcoming
Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> colored
paper visuals.
>
> I know the home page is more tuned
towards sales. But I believe most
> of the CRM installations
revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
> modifications etc.
Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> for what we
have currently - the spiral book type UI.
>
> Let me know,
even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
 >
>
Saint
>
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
 >_______________________________________________
>This vtiger.com email is sponsored
by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper &
palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho
Planner for FREE instead!  http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>


--
Josh Lee
Software Engineer
Zertis Technologies, LLC
205.422.5279
jlee at zertis.net 



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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Sun Apr 16 14:53:36 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:53:36 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
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On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

== BLOAT

/sak



From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Sun Apr 16 21:13:55 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:13:55 +0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>

I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE. This
could have the following scenario:

- Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance (potentials,
closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.

- Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next to
each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.

Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
system a true CRM and MIS.

-----Original Message-----
From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of
Sergio A. Kessler
Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.

== BLOAT

/sak

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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Mon Apr 17 01:00:50 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:00:50 +0800
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604170047s7935bca7ja151290634541449@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c661f5$0bd4e020$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hi Jorge,

 

The first attachment you put was more of a graphical workflow, certainly
something that should be attempted to be achieved with the bounty. However,
what I am referring to on the user customizable dashboard should have the
clear objective of "drag and drop" of whatever functions or information that
is needed AND that is accessible at the current user access level. It will
become something like a personal Content Management System where you can
self-determine the layout of whatever module and component output you need
for your individual needs.

 

  _____  

From: garifuna at gmail.com [mailto:garifuna at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jorge
Garifuna
Sent: 17 April 2006 15:48
To: ncknight at pacific.net.sg; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..

 

Sorry, I forgot the attach the visual files for Quick Books Pro 2006 payment
interface.
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 


 

On 4/17/06, Jorge Garifuna <garifuna at gmail.com> wrote: 

I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
across many departments of a company. 

 

I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
"receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
particular invoice.  

 

For example a typical job contract may look like this:

10% due at job start

50% due within 3 days of starting point

40% due at job completion

 

If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
against the invoice:

 

1) $100

2) $500

3) $400

 

After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.


Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM 4.2
for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario explained
above is closely related to the real world.

 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  


 

On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg > wrote: 

I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE. This

could have the following scenario:

- Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance (potentials,
closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day. 

- Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next to
each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.

Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access 
Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
system a true CRM and MIS.

-----Original Message-----
From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com> ] On Behalf Of
Sergio A. Kessler
Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix .. 

On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna < jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com
<mailto:jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> > wrote:
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>
> I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it 
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants. 

== BLOAT

/sak

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From garifuna at gmail.com  Mon Apr 17 00:46:06 2006
From: garifuna at gmail.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:46:06 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
References: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
	<000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
Message-ID: <677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
across many departments of a company.

I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
"receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
particular invoice.

For example a typical job contract may look like this:
10% due at job start
50% due within 3 days of starting point
40% due at job completion

If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
against the invoice:

1) $100
2) $500
3) $400

After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.

Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM
4.2for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario
explained
above is closely related to the real world.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>


On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg> wrote:
>
> I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what end
> users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE.
> This
> could have the following scenario:
>
> - Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
> leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance
> (potentials,
> closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.
>
> - Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments next
> to
> each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
> potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.
>
> Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
> Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
> Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes the
> system a true CRM and MIS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com ] On Behalf Of
> Sergio A. Kessler
> Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
>
> On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think the interface looks nice.
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
>
> > could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
> wants.
>
> == BLOAT
>
> /sak
>
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From info at GariDigital.com  Mon Apr 17 00:47:37 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:47:37 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49216030604161453k2d96ed65m23605b90f02ccdb0@mail.gmail.com>
	<000a01c661d5$58104f30$1a01a8c0@ifoundriest30>
	<677641040604170046y8df06a0q85133f766594ef83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604170047s7935bca7ja151290634541449@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I forgot the attach the visual files for Quick Books Pro 2006 payment
interface.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/17/06, Jorge Garifuna <garifuna at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  I agree with Nicholas.  Although some of this items might be hard to and
> challenging to code, they will certainly pay up at the end as it will make
> users' lives easier. As programmers and business individuals it is important
> to keep a sense of balance when creating a CRM application that will be used
> across many departments of a company.
>
> I'm not sure if you guys have taken a look at the quick books pro 2006
> interface, but one particular thing that caught my attention was the
> "receive payments" option after the invoice. Since vTiger CRM already has
> the invoice feature, it would make sense to extend it so that when payment
> is received it can be applied a particular invoice. The neat thing about
> this is that it allows users to log partial payments made against a
> particular invoice.
>
> For example a typical job contract may look like this:
> 10% due at job start
> 50% due within 3 days of starting point
> 40% due at job completion
>
> If the job is $1,000 then the following payments are expected to be made
> against the invoice:
>
> 1) $100
> 2) $500
> 3) $400
>
> After the the 3rd payment then the user may mark the invoice as paid.
>
> Again this might already been in the works, but after using vTiger CRM 4.2for a while and seen how some companies operate, the scenario explained
> above is closely related to the real world.
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>  On 4/16/06, Nicholas Chan <ncknight at pacific.net.sg > wrote:
> >
> > I beg to differ that it is bloat. In fact, this would be exactly what
> > end
> > users require and need to position and view only WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE.
> > This
> > could have the following scenario:
> >
> > - Sales manager is able to pull up on-screen 6 of his sales exec newest
> > leads, another 2 on-screen of the entire sales team performance
> > (potentials,
> > closed, etc), 1 for his entire sales team cases for the day.
> >
> > - Sales executive can pull up on-screen 3 days worth of appointments
> > next to
> > each other in a box, another 3 screen to display KIV, Follow Up and New
> > potentials and the last 3 to do whatever.
> >
> > Note that this function is fully customizable and respects the Access
> > Control List when it comes to pulling MIS information (ie. For the Sales
> > Manager to get data from his entire team). Such things are what makes
> > the
> > system a true CRM and MIS.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com ] On Behalf Of
> > Sergio A. Kessler
> > Sent: 17 April 2006 05:54
> > To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
> >
> > On 4/14/06, Jorge Garifuna < jg at garinet.com.idc.adventnet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the interface looks nice.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if
> > it
> > > could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she
> > wants.
> >
> > == BLOAT
> >
> > /sak
> >
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> > down
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From jg at garinet.com  Sat Apr 15 12:54:12 2006
From: jg at garinet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:54:12 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
In-Reply-To: <53061.69.76.119.25.1145110830.squirrel@www.infointegrated.com>
References: <443FF080.6050104@vtiger.com> <443FFB05.2080901@zertis.net>
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vTiger CRM is obviously one of the best solutions I've seen out there in its
class. I always recommended as one of my favorite solutions.

I have mentioned it on certain business forums and because people are always
asking for CRM solutions, I wrote a little article about my experience with
the different CRM applications that I've played around with:

http://theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5

For the rest of you guys, feel free to post your replies to that article
showing your support for vTiger CRM, bacause I'm always referring people to
that link and the more support they see about vTiger, the more that will
decide on it.

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/15/06, Brian Devendorf <developer at infointegrated.com> wrote:
>
> I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to
> select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic.
> Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double width,
> double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger size. Also,
> the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or have it based on
> screen size),
>
> I must say this is the best home page implementation I have seen yet.
> Great work, Saint!
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> I think the interface looks nice.
>  I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it
> could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.
>  - An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing link:
>  http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html
>
> - I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as
> well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily
> change the settings.
>  - the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if
> the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she
> can easily have that option.
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>  On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote:
> >
> > I like it.
> > Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
> > interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for.
> > He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
> > in the home page from 4.2.3
> >
> > Saint wrote:
> >
> > > Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and
> > > find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of
> > vtiger.
> > >
> > > The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
> > > The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
> > > The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
> > > weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts.
> > >
> > > The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in
> > > colored paper visuals.
> > >
> > > I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
> > > of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts,
> > > modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement
> > > for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
> > >
> > > Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
> > >
> > > Saint
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Lee
> > Software Engineer
> > Zertis Technologies, LLC
> > 205.422.5279
> > jlee at zertis.net
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Mon Apr 17 08:03:59 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:03:59 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..
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Folks,
 
I'm on board with Josh's feedback here.  My users just made the transition into 4.2 and while 5.0 offers a lot of great features, I'd like to be able to keep UI differences to a minimum. As great as everyone thinks 5.0 looks, it is complex and intimidating to a newcomer.  I think its great to have this as an option, but I think we also need to hang on to a simple theme/interface that looks more like the Sugar's and Salesforce.com's of the world.
 
The fact that so many people are so tied to the 5.0 look is only a signal that themes really do mean a lot to the end user.  We should make certain that 4.2 users who really liked the theme, can continue to use what they prefer just like so many prefer the 5.0 look.  Personally, I would like a theme that looks a lot closer to Salesforce so that I could compete with them better --keep it more of an apples to apples.
 
Seriously, let's not become the open source project that has an over-bearing, overly complex, overly functional UI.  Let's keep it easy for the end-user who will only touch this for 5 minutes each day --in the end, they're the ones who need CRM the most.
 
- Joel

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From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Jorge Garifuna
Sent: Mon 4/17/2006 3:45 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Home page Matrix ..


vTiger CRM is obviously one of the best solutions I've seen out there in its class. I always recommended as one of my favorite solutions.
 
I have mentioned it on certain business forums and because people are always asking for CRM solutions, I wrote a little article about my experience with the different CRM applications that I've played around with:
 
http://theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5
 
For the rest of you guys, feel free to post your replies to that article showing your support for vTiger CRM, bacause I'm always referring people to that link and the more support they see about vTiger, the more that will decide on it. 
 
-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 

 
On 4/15/06, Brian Devendorf <developer at infointegrated.com> wrote: 

	I agree completely with Jorge, though I'd be happy with just being able to select the modules for the v5 release... drag and drop would be fantastic. Another future idea would be to either resize the modules (to double width, double height) or have optional modules that are at the larger size. Also, the option to choose how many items appear in the array (or have it based on screen size), 
	
	I must say this is the best home page implementation I have seen yet. Great work, Saint!
	 
	
	Brian
	
	
	
	
	I think the interface looks nice.
	I'm not sure if this is already in the plans, but it would be cool if it could be dragable so that the user can reposition it anyway he/she wants.
	- An example of dragable content can be found at the folloing link:
	http://dhtmlgoodies.com/scripts/arrange-nodes-2/arrange-nodes-2.html 
	 
	- I think that the number of items on the list should be customozable as well, so if the user just wants to see top 3 item of sales, he can easily change the settings.
	- the graphs should also allow the user to customize the date range so if the user wants to see an overview of leads for a given month (range) he/she can easily have that option.

	-- 
	Jorge Garifuna
	Professional Web Developer
	"Your Web Solution Partner"
	Garinet Global Inc.
	http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  
	On 4/14/06, Josh Lee jlee at zertis.net> wrote: 

		I like it.
		Just to give some "User" feedback, I thought that you all might be
		interested to know that I have a client whom I installed vtiger5 for. 
		He dislikes the homepage from 5 enough, that he is paying to have me put
		in the home page from 4.2.3
		
		Saint wrote:
		
		> Just a weekend experiment.. and thought better, to give a shot and 
		> find your opinions. This is the 3x3 matrix idea for home page of vtiger. 
		>
		> The first row shows Top Leads, Potentiatls and Contacts.
		> The Second row shows Quotes, Sales Orders and Invoices.
		> The third row is nothing but a small graphical representation of that
		> weeks historical data about Leads, Potentials and Contacts. 
		>
		> The Upcoming Events and Pending Events are shown in the right in 
		> colored paper visuals.
		>
		> I know the home page is more tuned towards sales. But I believe most
		> of the CRM installations revolve around sales. Send in your thoughts, 
		> modifications etc. Let us see if this proves to be a good replacement 
		> for what we have currently - the spiral book type UI.
		>
		> Let me know, even if this UI doesnt make any sense at all ! :-)
		>
		> Saint
		>
		>
		>
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		Josh Lee
		Software Engineer
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		205.422.5279
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 17 13:48:54 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:48:54 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
Message-ID: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>

On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.

Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
start working on stuff for the next release.

Allan



From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 02:08:39 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:08:39 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>
References: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKAEGNCBAA.werk@r2g.nl>
Message-ID: <4444AC97.3010708@mikefedyk.com>

No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.

Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.

Mike

Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new in
> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>
> Regrads,
>
> Remco
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> JACQUEMES
> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
>
> You're welcome Fathi
>
> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>
> Michel
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>>     
>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>       
>> included.
>>     
>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>
>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what we
>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>       
>> congratulations !!!
>> thanks michel.
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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 02:24:30 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:24:30 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <4444AC97.3010708@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Mike,

That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
files?

There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?

Michel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> Envoy??: mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> 
> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> 
> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> in
> > vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >
> > Regrads,
> >
> > Remco
> >
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> > JACQUEMES
> > Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> > Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >
> >
> > You're welcome Fathi
> >
> > Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> > Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >>
> >>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>
> >> included.
> >>
> >>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> >>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
> we
> >>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>
> >> congratulations !!!
> >> thanks michel.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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> >>
> >
> >
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 02:22:32 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:22:32 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bec26390604171348l3f49d9e6ge96ce90b59cb3464@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4444AFD8.2050309@mikefedyk.com>

I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.

If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.

Mike

Allan Bush wrote:
> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
>
> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> start working on stuff for the next release.
>
> Allan
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 02:35:15 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:35:15 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAKdNmljqyAk+TRM7ho3WTogEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
Message-ID: <4444B2D3.7040702@mikefedyk.com>

There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the 
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac 
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>       
>> in
>>     
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>       
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>         
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>     
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> included.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>>           
>> we
>>     
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>         
>> down
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>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
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>> enabled,
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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 02:41:07 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:41:07 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <4444AFD8.2050309@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> Envoy??: mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
> ??: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Objet?: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
> 
> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
> 
> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Allan Bush wrote:
> > On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> > related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> > 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> > fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
> >
> > Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> > to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> > package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> > start working on stuff for the next release.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 02:45:51 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:45:51 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
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Message-ID: <4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>

Yes, any time.

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
> few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
>
>   
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
>>
>> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
>>
>> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Allan Bush wrote:
>>     
>>> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
>>> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
>>> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
>>> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
>>>
>>> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
>>> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
>>> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
>>> start working on stuff for the next release.
>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>       
>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>>     
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 18 09:12:25 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:12:25 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <4444B2D3.7040702@mikefedyk.com>
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nice move!

Where can I find the website for Image Graph?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
>
> There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
>
> Mike
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> > files?
> >
> > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> them,
> > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> >>
> >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> >>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >>>
> >>> Regrads,
> >>>
> >>> Remco
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
> >>> JACQUEMES
> >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You're welcome Fathi
> >>>
> >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>>
> >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >>
> >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> included.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
> >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> what
> >>>>>
> >> we
> >>
> >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> congratulations !!!
> >>>> thanks michel.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>>
> >> down
> >>
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> >> down
> >>
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> >> enabled,
> >>
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> >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
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> >>>
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From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Apr 18 09:43:09 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:43:09 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
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Dear Jorge Garifuna,

Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
Skype: sripadag
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437





----info at garidigital.com wrote ---- 

nice move! Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
 -- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 
 On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> included.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>>
>> we
>>
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>
>> down
>>
>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>>
>> enabled,
>>
>>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>
>> down
>>
>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>
>> enabled,
>>
>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>
>>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
>>>
>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>>
>
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From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 18 10:15:25 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:15:25 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
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Gopal,

Thanks for the link.

I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state (
http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download).

- Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
piece of software for organizations?

- Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jorge Garifuna,
>
> Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:
>
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/
>
> Thanks,
> Gopal
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ----info at garidigital.com wrote ----
>
>  nice move!
>
> Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> > latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> >
> > with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be
> > done
> > > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you
> > patch
> > > files?
> > >
> > > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> > them,
> > > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> > >
> > > Michel
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> > vtigercrm-
> > >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> > >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> > >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>
> > >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> > >>
> > >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Mike,
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely
> > new
> > >>>
> > >> in
> > >>
> > >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regrads,
> > >>>
> > >>> Remco
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens
> > Michel
> > >>> JACQUEMES
> > >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> > >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> You're welcome Fathi
> > >>>
> > >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> > >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> > >>>
> > >>> Michel
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>>>
> > >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> > >>
> > >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> > >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> > >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> > >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> included.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing
> > it
> > >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> > what
> > >>>>>
> > >> we
> > >>
> > >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> congratulations !!!
> > >>>> thanks michel.
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still
> > scribbling
> > >>>>
> > >> down
> > >>
> > >>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > >>>>
> > >> enabled,
> > >>
> > >>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > >>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > >>>
> > >> down
> > >>
> > >>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > >>>
> > >> enabled,
> > >>
> > >>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> > >>>
> > >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the
> > AJAX
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> > >>
> > >>>
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> > down
> > >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> > enabled,
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
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>
>
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 15:34:42 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:34:42 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vTiger 4.2.3 Calendar bugfix.
In-Reply-To: <44405C28.5090009@zertis.net>
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Message-ID: <44456982.5070705@mikefedyk.com>

Can you make a unified diff with winmerge and attach it to a ticket with 
a milestone of 4.2.5?

Mike

Josh Lee wrote:
> 4.2.3 Bugfix for calendar
>
> calendar month around line 236
>
>        else
>        { // day overlaps by Fredy
>            if ( $today == Date("Ymd",$ts)){
>                $col = "ol-today";
>            }
>            else if ($wd == 6) {
>                $col = "ol-holiday";
>            }
>          else if ($wd == 5) {
>             $col = "ol-freeday";
>                }
>            else if ($xm != $m ) {
>                $col = "ol-otherday";
>            }
>            else  {
>                $col = "ol-appday";
>            }
>        }
>
>
> Josh Lee wrote:
>
>> Bugfix.  There was a problem with uneven number of fields in detail 
>> view.
>> Simple probelm simple fix.
>>
>> includes/utils/DetailViewUtils.php
>> At the bottom of the file change this:
>>
>>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>>    {
>>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>>                $key1=$keys[0];
>>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>>        {
>>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>>        }
>>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 
>> => $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>>    }
>>    return $return_data;
>>
>>
>> To this:
>>
>>    for ($i=0,$j=0;$i<count($label_data);$i=$i+2,$j++)
>>    {
>>       // jlee added two lines to fix bug
>>        $key1 = null;
>>        $key2 = null;
>>       // Done adding
>>        $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i]);
>>                $key1=$keys[0];
>>        if(is_array($label_data[$i+1]))
>>        {
>>                    $keys=array_keys($label_data[$i+1]);
>>                    $key2=$keys[0];
>>        }
>>        $return_data[$j]=array($key1 => $label_data[$i][$key1],$key2 
>> => $label_data[$i+1][$key2]);
>>    }
>>    return $return_data;
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Tue Apr 18 20:27:12 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:27:12 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <677641040604181015q3e5e1955n338d14c20b114ddc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA+vVFbK0fJUuenLxmtgRvHAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Jorge,

 

You can have a look at that page

 

http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/

 

If you are interested, I have started to put some stuff on vtiger wiki :

 

http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Developing_Charts_using_ImageGraph

 

I don?t have any idea why Image Graph is still at alpha stage. For the tests
I have done, it looks stable.

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Jorge Garifuna
Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 19:15
? : gopals at vtiger.com; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced

 

Gopal,

 

Thanks for the link. 

 

I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state
(http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download). 

 

- Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
piece of software for organizations?

 

- Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com 


 

On 4/18/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote: 

Dear Jorge Garifuna,

Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:

http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/

Thanks,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal 
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com <http://gopal.vtiger.com/>  
Skype: sripadag 
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437 





---- info at garidigital.com <mailto:info at garidigital.com>  wrote ---- 

nice move!

 

Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
 

-- 
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>  


 

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com > wrote: 

There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac 
with the milestone set to 4.2.5.

Mike

Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch 
> files?
>
> There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
them,
> what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
>
> Michel
>
>
>> -----Message d'origine----- 
>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto: vtigercrm-
<mailto:vtigercrm-> 
>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk 
>> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com> 
>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>
>> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
>>
>> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance. 
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
>>>
>>> Regrads,
>>>
>>> Remco
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
>>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Michel
>>> JACQUEMES 
>>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
>>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
<mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com> 
>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>>>
>>>
>>> You're welcome Fathi
>>>
>>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
>>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>
>> [mailto:vtigercrm-
>>
>>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
>>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14 
>>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> included. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it 
>>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than what
>>>>> 
>> we
>>
>>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>> congratulations !!!
>>>> thanks michel.
>>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>>> This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho
Planner. Still scribbling
>>>>
>> down
>>
>>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX 
>>>> 
>> enabled,
>>
>>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
>>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho
Planner. Still scribbling
>>>
>> down
>>
>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>>>
>> enabled, 
>>
>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! 
>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>>>
>>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>> This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho
Planner. Still scribbling
>>>
>> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
>> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! 
>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho Planner.
Still scribbling down
>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
enabled, 
>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! 
>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt 
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com <http://vtiger.com/>  email is sponsored by Zoho Planner.
Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands?
Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE
instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
_______________________________________________
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Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands?
Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE
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From mfedyk at mikefedyk.com  Tue Apr 18 21:08:58 2006
From: mfedyk at mikefedyk.com (Mike Fedyk)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:08:58 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please stop adding bug reports for v5
	without setting the milestone.
Message-ID: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>

And for that matter, more and better milestones would be a good idea too.

I look at the bug reports by milestone (ticket listing 3) so having a 
bunch with unset milestones for v5 gets in the way.

Mike


From info at GariDigital.com  Tue Apr 18 21:18:07 2006
From: info at GariDigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:18:07 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAA+vVFbK0fJUuenLxmtgRvHAEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
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Message-ID: <677641040604182118o709d8d9h9c886c8a8a395451@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for sharing Michael!

--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/18/06, Michel JACQUEMES <m.jacquemes at neuf.fr> wrote:
>
>  Hi Jorge,
>
>
>
> You can have a look at that page
>
>
>
> http://pear.veggerby.dk/samples/
>
>
>
> If you are interested, I have started to put some stuff on vtiger wiki :
>
>
>
> http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Developing_Charts_using_ImageGraph
>
>
>
> I don't have any idea why Image Graph is still at alpha stage. For the
> tests I have done, it looks stable.
>
>
>
> Michel
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *De :* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *De la part de* Jorge
> Garifuna
> *Envoy? :* mardi 18 avril 2006 19:15
> *? :* gopals at vtiger.com; vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>
> *Objet :* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
>
>
>
> Gopal,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the link.
>
>
>
> I noticed that Image Graph is in alpha state (
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/download).
>
>
>
> - Could this be a concern, especially as vTiger CRM is more of a critical
> piece of software for organizations?
>
>
>
> - Is there a website that showcases the examples produced by Image Graph?
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, *Gopal* <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jorge Garifuna,
>
> Refer to the following URL for Image Graph package:
>
> http://pear.php.net/package/Image_Graph/
>
> Thanks,
> Gopal
>
> *S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> *
>
>
>
>
> ---- info at garidigital.com wrote ----
>
> nice move!
>
>
>
> Where can I find the website for Image Graph?
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/18/06, *Mike Fedyk* <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com > wrote:
>
> There is little that will change before the 4.2.4 release so use the
> latest 4.2 svn to patch against and attach the patch to a ticket in trac
> with the milestone set to 4.2.5.
>
> Mike
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > That is exactly what I had in mind, but I was not sure it was to be done
> > immediately. Can I patch directly SVN or do you prefer I send you patch
> > files?
> >
> > There are still some issues to fix for V5, I am working with Richie on
> them,
> > what is your schedule for ImageGraph - 4.2.x release?
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:09
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>
> >> No, jgraph needs to be removed from 4.2.x for licensing reasons.
> >>
> >> Michael, please submit your patch when you get a chance.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> I don't recommend that: v4 is stable and Image Graph is completely new
> >>>
> >> in
> >>
> >>> vtigercrm, keep it in v5 only.
> >>>
> >>> Regrads,
> >>>
> >>> Remco
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>> Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> [mailto: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens
> Michel
> >>> JACQUEMES
> >>> Verzonden: woensdag 12 april 2006 14:46
> >>> Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You're welcome Fathi
> >>>
> >>> Same thing can be done on V4.2.4, Charts.php code is the same.
> >>> Hi Mike, what do we do?
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>>
> >> [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >>
> >>>> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Fathi Boudra
> >>>> Envoy? : mercredi 12 avril 2006 13:14
> >>>> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >>>> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] jpgraph replaced
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Jpgraph has been removed from 5.0 trunk and Image Graph has been
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> included.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The Alpha5 has Analytics module with ImageGraph Rendering.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many thanks to Michel for taking up this responsibility and doing it
>
> >>>>> admirably. I must confess, the new graphs are tonnes better than
> what
> >>>>>
> >> we
> >>
> >>>>> had earlier. Bravo Michel!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> congratulations !!!
> >>>> thanks michel.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >>>>
> >> enabled,
> >>
> >>>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>
> >> down
> >>
> >>> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >>>
> >> enabled,
> >>
> >>> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >>> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>>
> >>> ----- Scanned for virus and spam
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>
> >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down
> >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled,
> >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>
>
>
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
>
>
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
> _______________________________________________
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From allan.bush at gmail.com  Tue Apr 18 23:36:14 2006
From: allan.bush at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:36:14 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Please stop adding bug reports for v5
	without setting the milestone.
In-Reply-To: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>
References: <4445B7DA.9090609@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604182336xb6978c9x8fa77ae313697dfc@mail.gmail.com>

I agree.
I wouldn't bother trying to fix all the bug reports right now,
hopefully when this round of QA is finished someone with access to the
trac backend can just fix them all in one go.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> And for that matter, more and better milestones would be a good idea too.
>
> I look at the bug reports by milestone (ticket listing 3) so having a
> bunch with unset milestones for v5 gets in the way.
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead! http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
>



From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Fri Apr 21 00:52:55 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:52:55 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>
	<4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>

Good to see you back Mike.

Any word on richie putting rc3 out?
I've created a patch for ticket #86
(http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/86), depending on
what state everything is in we may want to try and slip it in under
the wire.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> Yes, any time.
>
> Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
> > I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
> > few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
> >
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
> >> developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
> >> Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
> >> ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> >> Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
> >>
> >> I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
> >>
> >> If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Allan Bush wrote:
> >>
> >>> On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
> >>> related to packaging and both have patches ready to go.  I agree the
> >>> 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
> >>> fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
> >>>
> >>> Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release?  Mike Fedyk seems
> >>> to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
> >>> package the release?  I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
> >>> start working on stuff for the next release.
> >>>
> >>> Allan
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling
> >>>
> >> down your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX
> >> enabled, personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> >> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> >> http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
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From richie at vtiger.com  Fri Apr 21 01:27:15 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:27:15 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAwVLSnE2tcU+Lkhl03kCz+wEAAAAA@neuf.fr>	<4444B54F.705@mikefedyk.com>
	<3bec26390604210052j372f68ebna71f876ab44a4b16@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10abb8f5c06.-9220458501084372140.2763426437080733311@@vtiger.com>

Hi! 
 
I am waiting for mikef's nod. 
mikef, let me know when you want me to put and give 
out the exe/bin for 4.2.4. 
 
Richie




---- Allan Bush&lt;allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Good to see you back Mike.

Any word on richie putting rc3 out?
I've created a patch for ticket #86
(http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/86), depending on
what state everything is in we may want to try and slip it in under
the wire.

On 4/18/06, Mike Fedyk &lt;mfedyk at mikefedyk.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; Yes, any time.
&gt;
&gt; Michel JACQUEMES wrote:
&gt; &gt; I can check if dashboard is working as it is today and post the patch within
&gt; &gt; few hours, can I update my 4.2.x branch now?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; -----Message d'origine-----
&gt; &gt;&gt; De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-
&gt; &gt;&gt; developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Mike Fedyk
&gt; &gt;&gt; Envoy? : mardi 18 avril 2006 11:23
&gt; &gt;&gt; ? : vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
&gt; &gt;&gt; Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Can we release 4.2.4 yet?
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; I'm getting rc3 out to richie within the next few hours.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; If there aren't any complaints then that will be the 4.2.4 release.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Mike
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Allan Bush wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On the bug list I see 3 bugs targeted for 4.2.4, 2 of which are
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; related to packaging and both have patches ready to go. I agree the
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 3rd bug is important but I think it's too late in the release cycle to
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; fix it so it should probably be pushed back to 4.2.5.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Is there anything else holding up the 4.2.4 release? Mike Fedyk seems
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; to have disappeared but doesn't anyone else have enough permissions to
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; package the release? I'd like to see this get put out soon so I can
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; start working on stuff for the next release.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Allan
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Fri Apr 21 09:20:42 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:20:42 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SVN commit syntax
Message-ID: <3bec26390604210920y7af6e204m2a8c116dca4aff52@mail.gmail.com>

I'm glad to see more people taking advantage of the trac ticket
system, I find it extremely  useful myself and I'm sure everyone else
will as well.  I just want to point out a couple shortcuts that will
make everyone's life a little easier.

If you included certain key phrases in your SVN commit message any
relevant tickets will be automatically modified.  The ones I find
useful are "Refs #<ticket number>" and "Closes #<ticket number>".  I'm
sure there are more of these but I can't find an documentation on this
(trust me they works, I've done it several times myself).

If your commit message included "Refs #<ticket number>" (ie: Refs
#223) then that ticket will automatically get linked to your checked
in changeset and a comment added matching your commit message.  This
is super useful in tracking the progress on fixing a bug.

If your commit message included "Closes #<ticket number>" then you get
the same effect as using "Refs" plus the added bonus of having the
ticket close itself automatically saving you from having to do it
yourself.

If we could all agree to use this syntax it would greatly increase the
value of the ticket system.



From jtk at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 21 10:12:29 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:12:29 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] SVN commit syntax
References: <3bec26390604210920y7af6e204m2a8c116dca4aff52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.21.17.12.28.374020@yahoo.com>

Allan Bush wrote:
> I'm glad to see more people taking advantage of the trac ticket
> system

I concur 100% in thanking the vtiger team for starting to use trac tickets
for their trunk development.

Here is the relevant documentation for the python script that handles this
integration of commit messages and the ticket system.

-----------

It searches commit messages for text in the form of:

  command #1
  command #1, #2
  command #1 & #2
  command #1 and #2
 
You can have more then one command in a message. The following commands
are supported. There is more then one spelling for each command, to make
this as user-friendly as possible. 

 closes, fixes
   The specified issue numbers are closed with the contents of
   this commit message being added to it.

 references, refs, addresses, re 
   The specified issue numbers are left in their current status, but
   the contents of this commit message are added to their notes. 


A fairly complicated example of what you can do is with a commit message
of:

   Changed blah and foo to do this or that. Fixes #10 and #12, and refs
   #12.

This will close #10 and #12, and add a note to #12.


-------------

Also be sure to aprise yourself of the trac syntax for embedding code and
revision references in your checkin messages. Makes browsing the
repository very easy. I used these in changesets such as:

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5114

  refs #62 and #17. merging source:vtigercrm/branches/4.2 r5080 through
  r5113 to source:vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration. allanbush
  fixed CreatePDF.php pdf generation bugs

That's a little overboard for routine commits, of course, but explicit
references to logical source and destination are very useful for merges
and other branching actions.

Thanks again to everybody creating all those tickets recently. If we can
get somebody with access to the database backend to update their
milestones (currently set to none), that would be a tremendous release
planning asset. 



From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Sun Apr 23 16:10:17 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:10:17 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
Message-ID: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
the forge is not available for me.

Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?

A?ssa


From fboudra at free.fr  Mon Apr 24 05:25:54 2006
From: fboudra at free.fr (Fathi Boudra)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:25:54 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
In-Reply-To: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
References: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
Message-ID: <200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>

hi aissa,

> Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
> the forge is not available for me.
>
> Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?

maintenance : box upgrade goes wrong since last update.

i'm working on it...

cheers,

Fathi


From richie at vtiger.com  Mon Apr 24 07:26:18 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:26:18 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
Message-ID: <10acc4b2a57.-3766842912071413281.6608330223419069294@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

The code base is slowly being stabilized and I would expect it to be upto the mark 
by around May 7th or so. 

I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

Thanks,
Richie
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From Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com  Mon Apr 24 14:08:37 2006
From: Joel.Rydbeck at nubrek.com (Joel Rydbeck)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:08:37 -0500
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <000001c667ab$9e760100$0a0510ac@nubrek.local>
Message-ID: <BAF045D09235D948B927CC544D8CAF8B73D4@office.nubrek.local>

Richie,
 
In my view it is a must for vTiger 5 to support PostgreSQL.  This is a sensitive topic here, so I'll try to be objective and not start a flame war:

1.	
	MySQL is not opensource, it requires $ and a license to use it commercially --which as someone pointed out earlier, is the main driver for using vTiger in the first place, to make money.
2.	
	MySQL does not own the INNODB transactional table type, Oracle does
3.	
	Oracle, the other database supported (?) is not open source
4.	
	Compliance with PostgreSQL suggests that the codebase is much more tightly aligned with the ANSI SQL2000 standard --which easily leads to support for other Adodb databases
5.	
	PostgresSQL has a strong following on this list and there are many individuals who are ready and willing to contribute.  I would highlight bushwack and jeffk who have performed significant amounts of work in bringing PostgreSQL support to 4.2.4

If we're agressively pursuing opensource components for vTiger, I think we need to ensure that consumers aren't forced into a non-opensource license just to run the application.  If someone wants to run this on a Windows Server XXXX with an Oracle db, I wish them luck.  At the same time, we want folks with Fedora core X, to be able to legitimately run vTiger without shelling out $.

All of this said, I see two main drivers to get PostgreSQL support in vTiger 5 before release.

1.	Added portability and stability by supporting an ANSI SQL 2000-compliant db.
2.	Removed dependence on non-opensource software.

This is my view.

- Joel


________________________________

From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com on behalf of Richie
Sent: Mon 4/24/2006 9:30 AM
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5


Hello!

The code base is slowly being stabilized and I would expect it to be upto the mark 
by around May 7th or so. 

I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

Thanks,
Richie
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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Mon Apr 24 14:10:33 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:10:33 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger forge out of service
In-Reply-To: <200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>
References: <444C0959.70900@vtigercrmfrance.org>
	<200604241425.55095.fboudra@free.fr>
Message-ID: <1145913034.5434.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Totally my fault, I upgraded some of the packages in the sarge security
repo and the whole thing died.  Hopefully Fathi can fix it up soon.
Fathi let me know if you need anything from me to help move this along.

My bad.

Matt

On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 14:25 +0200, Fathi Boudra wrote:
> hi aissa,
> 
> > Hi, it's 01:08 french time,
> > the forge is not available for me.
> >
> > Normal ? Maintenance ? Hacking ? Or i'm alone to have this problem ?
> 
> maintenance : box upgrade goes wrong since last update.
> 
> i'm working on it...
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Fathi
> _______________________________________________
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 24 14:36:16 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:36:16 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
Message-ID: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>

Good day everyone,

I noticed that a branch was created for the 4.2.4 release, I take this
a a sign that I can start putting stuff into the 4.2 branch for the
4.2.5 release.

The first thing I'd like to do is to merge the 4.2_postgres branch
into the 4.2 branch (ticket #17).  I'd like to leave in the code from
ticket #69 (http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/69)
well doing this as I think the extra debugging information could
benefit from the eyes of a wider release.  If anyone has any comments
on this lets hear it.

jeffk, you seem to know how to juggle the svn branching/merging, feel
free to merge the branches.  If you're busy I'll figure it out and
probably do it later tonight.

Allan



From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 14:44:00 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:44:00 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:36:16 -0700, Allan Bush wrote:
> jeffk, you seem to know how to juggle the svn branching/merging, feel
> free to merge the branches.  If you're busy I'll figure it out and
> probably do it later tonight.

I'll do that right now. I'm doing the mechanical merge, it will need
testing (I have zero php-debugging-fu; I just do a quick install of the
demo dataset and duck ;)

Any bugs found post merge should get trac tickets with the 4.2.5
milestone.




From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 15:36:37 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:36:37 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>

OK, the branches have been merged.

http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5306

Per the longwinded changeset log, there will surely be breakage and some
rapid integration work needed to support both postgresql and mysql for the
end user.

When this is done, we should delete
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration and close tickets #62 and
#17.

Thanks for all the postgresql support. I encourage Richie and his team to
review this changeset and apply relevant portions and lessons to
vtigercrm/trunk ASAP.




From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 24 18:21:41 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:21:41 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] 4.2.4 branched
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>
References: <3bec26390604241436w74856458x677602766f10261@mail.gmail.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.21.43.58.871104@yahoo.com>
	<pan.2006.04.24.22.36.36.520136@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604241821v466df53jf1e60cfa7d615f28@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Jeff

I don't really anticipate anything being broken as the 4.2 branch is
nearly the same as the postgres branch now and I tested that with
mysql and postgres installations, but we'll see.

On 4/24/06, Jeff Kowalczyk <jtk at yahoo.com> wrote:
> OK, the branches have been merged.
>
> http://vtiger.fosslabs.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/5306
>
> Per the longwinded changeset log, there will surely be breakage and some
> rapid integration work needed to support both postgresql and mysql for the
> end user.
>
> When this is done, we should delete
> vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration and close tickets #62 and
> #17.
>
> Thanks for all the postgresql support. I encourage Richie and his team to
> review this changeset and apply relevant portions and lessons to
> vtigercrm/trunk ASAP.
>
>
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 19:41:28 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:41:28 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>

Richie wrote:
> I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

   There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
   another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.



From jtk at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 24 19:47:36 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:47:36 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>

Richie wrote:
> (...) vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

GA? What's that? ;)

Oh, you must mean the tagged releases with a series of predictable names
of the form vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 through vtigercrm-5.0.0?

The ones that linux packagers will be glad to distributed to millions of
grateful users?

Sorry, Richie, the version naming curmudgeon(s) will coming to the party
once the team gets ready to start calling it beta. We'll bring cake,
though.

;)



From rrg at r2g.nl  Tue Apr 25 02:11:41 2006
From: rrg at r2g.nl (Dhr. R.R. Gerbrands)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:11:41 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
Message-ID: <FMEIIMELOEFIHEEFIHPKCEILCBAA.rrg@r2g.nl>

Hi Jeff,

I agree with you, giving more people a choice which db to use at the start
of implementing VtigerCRM highlites the best part of using OpenSource.
Having implemented VtigerCRM at several clients of mine on a online
webserver works fine.
Being able to use a different db backend for integration with others apps
would be great.
Just to make it clear I need both databases for this: mysql and postgressql.
If at some point we would be able to use firebird as well, well that will be
the day for me :-)

Regards,

Remco Gerbrands




-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com]Namens Jeff
Kowalczyk
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 april 2006 4:41
Aan: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Onderwerp: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5


Richie wrote:
> I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

   There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
   another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.

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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Tue Apr 25 14:44:41 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:44:41 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
Message-ID: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
many of us aren't watching the forums.
Let me know what you think.
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541

Matt



From gopals at vtiger.com  Tue Apr 25 20:06:51 2006
From: gopals at vtiger.com (Gopal)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:06:51 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <10ad429d1dc.7191252965695616562.7859674740524310394@@vtiger.com>

Dear Matt,

Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass mail. 

Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level. 

Regards,
Gopal

S.S.G.Gopal 
Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com 
Skype: sripadag 
Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437 





----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ---- 

I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
many of us aren't watching the forums.
Let me know what you think.
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541

Matt

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From sergiokessler at gmail.com  Wed Apr 26 11:14:53 2006
From: sergiokessler at gmail.com (Sergio A. Kessler)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:14:53 -0300
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>

matt, WRT mail tracking, how do you track the "opened" state if the
MUA does not download external images (most MUAs todays do that)

I didn't undertand when you say the clear icon is "scanned" ...

regards,
/sergio

On 4/26/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
>  Dear Matt,
>
> Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found
> very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I
> exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass
> mail.
>
> Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will
> definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level.
>
> Regards,
> Gopal
>
> S.S.G.Gopal
> Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> Skype: sripadag
> Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
>
>
>
>
>
> ----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ----
>
>
>
> I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
> many of us aren't watching the forums.
> Let me know what you think.
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541
>
> Matt
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
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From mmbrich at fosslabs.com  Wed Apr 26 12:38:36 2006
From: mmbrich at fosslabs.com (Matthew Brichacek)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:38:36 -0600
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Input for 5.x on email and auto-dialer
In-Reply-To: <49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1146001482.5434.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<-2441601674465599636@unknownmsgid>
	<49216030604261114m74084892q72db60e138a0b1be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1146080316.5434.119.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Sergio,
	You're right, the good MUA's don't automatically load images.  In that
case you may not get the initial 'open' action if the user doesn't allow
the images to load.  In quite a few cases you can get around this with
an embedded iframe but I am not a big fan of using that method because
it has so much potential for abuse.  There are also email clients (like
evolution) that will cache the images so they only load once, in that
case you'll never now if the user re-opened the email.  As far as
scanning, when I was reading up on email tracking methods I had run
across a site that mentioned some filtering systems will actually load
the images when the email is scanned.  I haven't run across this yet
myself and it seems a bit counter intuitive if the scanning mechanism
was trying to detect spam :).
	I've also noticed that if you enabled tracking and unsub links in your
email the spam rating will jump at least 1 point with most spam filters
like spamassasin.

	I've sent a campaign out to some of our clients and it had a 100% open
rate which to me means that either many users don't have image loading
turned off, or they use one of those crappier clients that offers you no
protection from tracking.  So really YMMV because of the way different
MUA's handle images, but so far my experience has been that most users
don't bother to use those MUA's or don't bother to enable the tracking
protections.

Matt

On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 15:14 -0300, Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
> matt, WRT mail tracking, how do you track the "opened" state if the
> MUA does not download external images (most MUAs todays do that)
> 
> I didn't undertand when you say the clear icon is "scanned" ...
> 
> regards,
> /sergio
> 
> On 4/26/06, Gopal <gopals at vtiger.com> wrote:
> >  Dear Matt,
> >
> > Mailing List is definitely a boon for Marketing folks. Many times I found
> > very difficult to send mass emails using some other apps. Some time back I
> > exported all my contacts from vtiger and sent mass email using Joomla Mass
> > mail.
> >
> > Mailing List (List Manager) + Email Templates in Marketing module will
> > definitely help us to take vtiger Marketing functionality to next level.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gopal
> >
> > S.S.G.Gopal
> > Blog: http://gopal.vtiger.com
> > Skype: sripadag
> > Toll Free: +1 877 788 4437
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----mmbrich at fosslabs.com wrote ----
> >
> >
> >
> > I wanted to get a lot of user input on these items but I also know that
> > many of us aren't watching the forums.
> > Let me know what you think.
> > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=23885
> > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=6541
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> > your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> > personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
> > http://zohoplanner.com/?vt
> >
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From jg at garinet.com  Wed Apr 26 23:57:40 2006
From: jg at garinet.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:57:40 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5. Need
	help
Message-ID: <677641040604262357t1b2b09fk8db5a1dac628a455@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
there is problem on step 3 of 5.

Here is the error I'm getting:

   Step 3 of 5 [image: vtiger CRM]       Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters
specified   *

Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons:

- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
- specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
server from the host*
 *

Kindly check the specified database connection parameters...

*
Here is what I have:
-- vTiger 4.2.3
-- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
-- PHP Version: 4.3.2

I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
script with the same host name, user name and db name.

The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104

http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943

Thanks in advanced for your help.


--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com
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From webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org  Thu Apr 27 03:23:48 2006
From: webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org (Abos)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:23:48 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] About locate map on vtiger 5.
Message-ID: <44509BB4.2050908@vtigercrmfrance.org>

Hi team,
the new locate map functionnality is cool on vtiger CRM 5.
I think this function can be best, with "Get direction".
By using my company address and customer address, we can have the road 
direction on google maps.

Map + road direction = very cool to move.

Respect,
A?ssa.


From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 06:24:05 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:24:05 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.47.35.557255@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10adb854511.-6759985834055790868.6453244679148152047@@vtiger.com>

Hi! 
 
Why am i starting to hate this guy ? :D! 
 
How to go about handling the Postgres integration into v5 please? 
All suggestions are welcome. 
Allan Bush and Joel , it will be nice to get a response from you. 
 
Richie




---- Jeff Kowalczyk&lt;jtk at yahoo.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Richie wrote:
&gt; (...) vtiger CRM 5 GA please.

GA? What's that? ;)

Oh, you must mean the tagged releases with a series of predictable names
of the form vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1 through vtigercrm-5.0.0?

The ones that linux packagers will be glad to distributed to millions of
grateful users?

Sorry, Richie, the version naming curmudgeon(s) will coming to the party
once the team gets ready to start calling it beta. We'll bring cake,
though.

;)

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From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 06:25:30 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:25:30 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10adb869364.-649200440285564960.-7653367893237445779@@vtiger.com>

Hello! 
 
Agreed. We will support Postgres but we need help. 
Here, we are working on the bug-fixes and are totally 
swamped. 
All hands welcome for Postgres support. 
 
Richie




---- Jeff Kowalczyk&lt;jtk at yahoo.com&gt; wrote ---- 

  Richie wrote:
&gt; I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
&gt; GA please.

I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.

But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:

 There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
 another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.

Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
on mysql&lt;-&gt;postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?

Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
wrong with a converted dataset.

I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.

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From richie at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 06:27:35 2006
From: richie at vtiger.com (Richie)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:27:35 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5
Message-ID: <10adb8879c7.-4170929643010971357.7693297806886073293@@vtiger.com>

Hello!

We have not made much progress in v5 with respect to the muli-language support.
We need help. 

Please do suggest approaches for the same as well.

We had been initially working on mikecrowe's contribution but we are not able to get
in touch with him for sometime now so the job is still incomplete.

Richie
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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 08:50:33 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:50:33 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
In-Reply-To: <5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Richie,

To support Postgres there are about 3 or 4 things you need to consider
on all the queries made.  If you see my post in the forums
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=2597 I've outlined the
problems that need to be addressed (yes that's for a different version
but the problems will be the same, except for the first problem which
an adodb upgrade solved).

In order for Postgres support to be possible those issues need to be
addressed in the current code AND all developers must continue to
address them in all further code they write.  If I can be assured of
the second point I'll make the required changes once the code base is
somewhat stable and feature complete (I'm thinking between beta1 and
beta2).

Allan

PS fyi how I go about finding and fixing these issues is I tweak
adodb's debugging ala ticket #69 and then install and use vtiger
fixing the database errors as I come across them

On 4/27/06, Richie <richie at vtiger.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Agreed. We will support Postgres but we need help.
> Here, we are working on the bug-fixes and are totally
> swamped.
> All hands welcome for Postgres support.
>
>
> Richie
>
>
>
>
> ---- Jeff Kowalczyk<jtk at yahoo.com> wrote ----
>
>
>  Richie wrote:
> > I would like to know your views on supporting Postgres in vtiger CRM 5
> > GA please.
>
> I think there is consensus that postgresql support is important and that
> someone would step up to provide it. Alternatives to mysql for different
> reasons to different people: licensing, stability, management utilities,
> integration with other apps already in other backends, etc.
>
> But I'll suggest one reason that makes it an imperative to merge
> postgresql support, as in right now, before tagging vtigercrm-5.0.0beta1:
>
>  There is likely to be no reliable support for an end-user to migrate to
>  another database backend once you start using vtigercrm in production.
>
> Consider: is anyone preparing adodb migration code, or suggesting we rely
> on mysql<->postgresql dumpfile translators, for something as complex as a
> vtigercrm dataset that's been used in production on Mysql for several
> months. How many relational tables is vtigercrm now?
>
> Even if it can be coaxed from one dumpfile format to another, we don't
> have automated testing to tell for certain if the data integrity is
> preserved. One could conceivably go quite a while before noticing anything
> wrong with a converted dataset.
>
> I think that a sensible user will choose the database backend they prefer
> at the beginning of a deployment, and stick with it. Therefore, vtigercrm
> needs to support more backends sooner rather than later.
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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>
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> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 27 09:13:15 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:13:15 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
References: <9159.92812156237$1145888821@news.gmane.org>
	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
	<5890908235239429385@unknownmsgid>
	<3bec26390604270850x2c006714v24f3fce219f1b47e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.27.16.13.14.294948@yahoo.com>

Allan Bush wrote:
> To support Postgres there are about 3 or 4 things you need to consider
> on all the queries made.  If you see my post in the forums
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=2597 I've outlined the problems
> that need to be addressed (yes that's for a different version but the
> problems will be the same, except for the first problem which an adodb
> upgrade solved).

I think it would be useful to have a trac ticket listing those four
requirements, plus any additions or refinements you encountered since your
work with vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration.

The vtiger team can help you help them by adding "refs #(number)" to any
checkins they make in the coming weeks that follow your ticket's
postgresql-readiness advice. Committers will eventually internalize those
guidelines when writing new code. You (Allan) will also have a nice
indicator of how much postgresql prep work has been done at any given
point, and can better decide when to jump in.

I agree that you'll want to have a somewhat slower change-velocity (e.g.
during beta) before giving it a thorough conversion and sign-off as to its
readiness.

IMO adodb API usage that is limited to mysql (or any single backend) is a
bug and fixing it would not be a new feature, so I think it's OK to
fix/add postgresql and other backend support during the beta period.

Disclaimers at install-time that there is no announced support for
migrating from one database backend to another would be wise.



From jg at garidigital.com  Thu Apr 27 09:23:45 2006
From: jg at garidigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:23:45 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5. Need
	help
Message-ID: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,



I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
there is problem on step 3 of 5.



Here is the error I'm getting:


   Step 3 of 5


       Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified



  *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *

*- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
- specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
server from the host*

*Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *

Here is what I have:
-- vTiger 4.2.3

-- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
-- PHP Version: 4.3.2


I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
script with the same host name, user name and db name.



The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out



http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104



http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943



Thanks in advanced for your help.



--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
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From saint at vtiger.com  Thu Apr 27 09:45:29 2006
From: saint at vtiger.com (Saint)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:15:29 +0530
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will this
	help?
Message-ID: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant 
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do 
you think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience?

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can 
generate an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar 
quotes using the information of that particular quote like account name, 
potential name, address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, 
you cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining 
to that product etc.


regards,
Saint


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From allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 10:20:00 2006
From: allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com (Allan Bush)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:20:00 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5.
	Need help
In-Reply-To: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>

This isn't really the place for user support, you'll have much better luck
in the forms.  Also posting the same thing twice isn't going to win you any
fans.

Your problem is, as stated, vtiger can't connect to your database.  If you
have some technical knowledge the line that's failing is line 50 of
install/3confirmConfig.php you may be able to figure it out from there.  My
first guess is that your mysql installation doesn't support/allow persistent
connections.

On 4/27/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garidigital.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
> but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
> there is problem on step 3 of 5.
>
>
>
> Here is the error I'm getting:
>
>
>    Step 3 of 5
>
>
>
>        Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified
>
>
>
>   *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
> connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *
>
> *- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
> - specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
> server from the host *
>
> *Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *
>
> Here is what I have:
> -- vTiger 4.2.3
>
> -- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
> -- PHP Version: 4.3.2
>
>
> I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
> script with the same host name, user name and db name.
>
>
>
> The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
> was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943
>
>
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This vtiger.com email is sponsored by Zoho Planner. Still scribbling down
> your To-Do's on bits of paper & palms of your hands? Try the AJAX enabled,
> personal organizer online, Zoho Planner for FREE instead!
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From jg at garidigital.com  Thu Apr 27 10:42:58 2006
From: jg at garidigital.com (Jorge Garifuna)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:42:58 -0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] Installation problem in step 3 of 5.
	Need help
In-Reply-To: <3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <677641040604270923i5b56db24rc85bb37140260acf@mail.gmail.com>
	<3bec26390604271020o467ec130iaad539c5dbf8310c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <677641040604271042l4f205b02ybf3755fcc12cc8e8@mail.gmail.com>

Allan

I certainly appreciate your reply. I'm a supporter of vTiger CRM (
http://www.garidigital.com/docs/vtiger/
http://www.theopenzone.org/viewtopic.php?t=5 ) and the reason I post here is
because I exhausted my options on the forum. I certainly do not need your
lectures about the appropriate place to place my questions. If I didn't know
better I wouldn't mind your suggestion. I think we can all benefit much
better from this medium by assisting each other so  that vTiger CRM can grow
even more.

Any other assistance would be greatly appreciated.
--
Jorge Garifuna
Professional Web Developer
"Your Web Solution Partner"
Garinet Global Inc.
http://www.GariDigital.com


On 4/27/06, Allan Bush <allan.bush+vtiger_dev at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This isn't really the place for user support, you'll have much better luck
> in the forms.  Also posting the same thing twice isn't going to win you any
> fans.
>
> Your problem is, as stated, vtiger can't connect to your database.  If you
> have some technical knowledge the line that's failing is line 50 of
> install/3confirmConfig.php you may be able to figure it out from there.  My
> first guess is that your mysql installation doesn't support/allow persistent
> connections.
>
>  On 4/27/06, Jorge Garifuna <jg at garidigital.com> wrote:
>
> >  Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I have installed vTiger several times before on my linux hosting servers,
> but now for the first time I'm trying to install it on a windows server and
> there is problem on step 3 of 5.
>
>
>
> Here is the error I'm getting:
>
>
>    Step 3 of 5
>
>
>
>        Invalid Mysql Connection Parameters specified
>
>
>
>   *Error Message: Unable to connect to database Sever with the specified
> connection parameters. This may be due to the following reasons: *
>
> *- specified database user, password , hostname or port is invalid.
> - specified database user does not have access to connect to the database
> server from the host *
>
> *Kindly check the specified database connection parameters... *
>
> Here is what I have:
> -- vTiger 4.2.3
>
> -- MySQL Server version: 4.0.24
> -- PHP Version: 4.3.2
>
>
> I know the database connection works well because I wrote a separate test
> script with the same host name, user name and db name.
>
>
>
> The following threads report the same problem but I found no solution so I
> was wondering if anyone on this list can help me out
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5104
>
>
>
> http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=5943
>
>
>
> Thanks in advanced for your help.
>
>
>
> --
> Jorge Garifuna
> Professional Web Developer
> "Your Web Solution Partner"
> Garinet Global Inc.
> http://www.GariDigital.com <http://www.garidigital.com/>
>
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From jtk at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 27 12:29:29 2006
From: jtk at yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:29:29 -0400
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] postgres support in v5
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	<pan.2006.04.25.02.41.27.471287@yahoo.com>
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Just to see what an automatic merge would accomplish to bring the 4.2
postgresql support to the trunk, I did a dry run merge. Definitely file
this under 'foolhardy merging that would break the trunk in many ways':

In svn update/merge console output, 'U' indicates clean merge of
changesets, 'C' indicates conflicting lines.

This merge testing is done with a trunk checkout:

 URL: http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/trunk
 Revision: 5506

Changeset 5306 is the changeset that merged the work from
vtigercrm/branches/4.2_postgresql_integration to the 4.2 branch.

The following files would apparently get clean automatic merges of the
changeset that adds postgresql support to branches/4.2:

 $ svn merge --dry-run
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5305
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5306 |
 grep 'U  ' 
 U    modules/Reports/SaveReportFolder.php
 U    modules/Reports/Save.php
 U    modules/Reports/Reports.php
 U    modules/Settings/SaveConvertLead.php
 U    modules/Settings/DeleteCustomField.php
 U    modules/Settings/UpdateComboValues.php
 U    modules/Users/User.php
 U    modules/Users/massdelete.php
 U    modules/Users/updateLeadDBStatus.php
 U    modules/Calendar/appointment.pinc
 U    modules/Import/UsersLastImport.php
 U    include/database/PearDatabase.php
 U    schema/DatabaseSchema.xml

This definitely doesn't mean complete support (in these files) for
postgresql, only that the changesets from the branch would cleanly merge
to the trunk without additional effort.

These (many) other files would have conflict lines added to the source.
This would definitely bring PHP syntax breakage, and require immediate
attention to resolve the conflicts before the code would even run again:

 $ svn merge --dry-run
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5305
 http://jeffk at vtiger.fosslabs.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/4.2 at 5306 |
 grep 'C  '
 C    config.inc.php
 C    modules/Accounts/ListViewTop.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Account.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Popup_picker.php
 C    modules/Accounts/Popup.php
 C    modules/Accounts/ListView.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Quote.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Delete.php
 C    modules/Quotes/Popup.php
 C    modules/Quotes/ListView.php
 C    modules/Potentials/Popup.php
 C    modules/Potentials/ListView.php
 C    modules/Potentials/Opportunity.php
 C    modules/Leads/Popup.php
 C    modules/Leads/Lead.php
 C    modules/Leads/ListView.php
 C    modules/Leads/LeadConvertToEntities.php
 C    modules/Home/UnifiedSearch.php
 C    modules/Notes/Delete.php
 C    modules/Notes/ListView.php
 C    modules/Invoice/Invoice.php
 C    modules/Invoice/ListView.php
 C    modules/Reports/ReportRun.php
 C    modules/Reports/PopulateReports.php
 C    modules/HelpDesk/HelpDesk.php
 C    modules/HelpDesk/ListView.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveProfile.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveOrgSharing.php
 C    modules/Users/LoginHistory.php
 C    modules/Users/saveemailtemplate.php
 C    modules/Users/ListView.php
 C    modules/Users/Security.php
 C    modules/Users/SaveRole.php
 C    modules/Products/Popup.php
 C    modules/Products/AddProductsToPriceBook.php
 C    modules/Products/ListView.php
 C    modules/Products/Delete.php
 C    modules/Products/Product.php
 C    modules/Activities/Activity.php
 C    modules/Activities/ListView.php
 C    modules/Activities/RenderRelatedListUI.php
 C    modules/Activities/OpenListView.php
 C    modules/CustomView/Save.php
 C    modules/CustomView/CustomView.php
 C    modules/Faq/ListView.php
 C    modules/uploads/add2db.php
 C    modules/Emails/Email.php
 C    modules/Emails/ListView.php
 C    modules/Contacts/Contact.php
 C    modules/Contacts/Popup.php
 C    modules/Contacts/ListView.php
 C    data/CRMEntity.php
 C    data/SugarBean.php
 C    include/RelatedListView.php
 C    include/PopulateComboValues.php
 C    install/5createTables.inc.php
 C    install/4createConfigFile.php
 C    install/1checkSystem.php
 C    install/2setConfig.php
 C    install/populateSeedData.php
 C    install/3confirmConfig.php
 C    adodb/adodb.inc.php
 C    adodb/adodb-lib.inc.php
 C    adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php

There are a few skipped files, due to move, rename or removal in trunk.

Again, merging and subsequently resolving these many conflicts would by no
means imply completed postgresql support for the trunk.

However, any approach that brings the trunk and maintained branches closer
together would be a positive thing.

Once vtigercrm-5.0.0 is in production, certainly people will want to
back-port selected features, and forward-port bug fixes during the long
lifecycle of the vtigercrm-4.2.x series. Minimizing diffs between
branches always makes that process easier.

Just FYI. I don't think this merge (except for the 'U' files) would do
any good at this point. Allan can probably move through the trunk codebase
quicker with his method.


Note: svn revert doesn't undo conflict messages AFAICT. If you try this
merge without the --dry-run option, be prepared to check out a fresh trunk
working copy after you are done examining the results.



From m.jacquemes at neuf.fr  Thu Apr 27 20:14:14 2006
From: m.jacquemes at neuf.fr (Michel JACQUEMES)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:14:14 +0200
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
	this	help?
In-Reply-To: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAA4thkWTj0xGwkwBABTMROMKAAAAQAAAAn3Ohn2d+IU+m4J2aYwsDTQEAAAAA@neuf.fr>

Hi Saint,

 

It could be a useful feature, especially knowing that user can have an
action on an object without leaving the context of this object.

It will be more useful if you do the same thing on a listview. SAP has
introduced that naming it ?drag & activate?. Suppose you are on a customer
listview, you drag a customer line over  invoice menu line and you get
invoices listview for this customer. This can be extended almost everywhere.

 

May be I am wrong, but I think also that it is not very difficult to
implement because it can be a general template.

 

Another idea is that with such feature we are not very far from workflow
management.

 

Michel

 

  _____  

De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de
Saint
Envoy? : jeudi 27 avril 2006 18:45
? : LANCER : Developers List
Objet : [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will this
help?

 

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do you
think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience? 

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can generate
an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar quotes using
the information of that particular quote like account name, potential name,
address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, you
cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining to that
product etc. 


regards,
Saint




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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Sat Apr 29 01:18:40 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:18:40 +0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5
In-Reply-To: <10adb8879c7.-4170929643010971357.7693297806886073293@@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <001001c66b65$8da86490$6364a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hello Richie,

 

I am not sure about the approach taken, but would it happen to be based on
language files? If so, publishing the language file template would be a
start for volunteers to begin localization work?

 

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From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of
Richie
Sent: 27 April 2006 20:28
To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] multi-language support in v5

 

Hello!

We have not made much progress in v5 with respect to the muli-language
support.
We need help. 

Please do suggest approaches for the same as well.

We had been initially working on mikecrowe's contribution but we are not
able to get
in touch with him for sometime now so the job is still incomplete.

Richie

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From ncknight at pacific.net.sg  Sat Apr 29 01:18:40 2006
From: ncknight at pacific.net.sg (Nicholas Chan)
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:18:40 +0700
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
	thishelp?
In-Reply-To: <4450F529.3040207@vtiger.com>
Message-ID: <001801c66b65$97492520$6364a8c0@ifoundriest30>

Hello team,

 

I would like to add my observation on this "Detailed View".

 

Before this is rolled out "all out", I believe the more important thing is
that this would be one of the beginning steps of Sales Automation, this
example would aptly be the "order progress". I would see this screen being
particularly useful for Account Executives and Field Sales:

 

*	Able to check on previous orders from this client; if a "quick
notes" section that can list out some user configurable details such as
"Last order date", "Last order size", "Any outstanding cases", etc on the
right column just above the "Actions" would be a great assistance. 
*	Able to pull data seamlessly from all modules (ie. Price book, terms
and conditions from existing options) without needing to "right-click and
open" other tabs.

 

An enhanced version for management purposes would be to allow all detailed
views to open up as below, including those that are "done" so as to do
checking. Versioning for any adjustments and auto-numbering (with reference
on who adjusted what) would be important also in this screen.

 

Finally I certainly do hope that this would set the fundamental workflow
system in place for the workflow module!

 

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From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of Saint
Sent: 27 April 2006 23:45
To: LANCER : Developers List
Subject: [Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Related Actions link: Will
thishelp?

 

Guys,

Check the attached image. We are thinking about providing relevant
actions/links in major modules (in detailed view, espicially). What do you
think? will this help the users? will it improve the user experience? 

Example 1. Say for example, When you are viewing a Quote, you can generate
an invoice/sales order  directly, also one can track similar quotes using
the information of that particular quote like account name, potential name,
address, or products etc.

Example 2. Another example is .. when you are viewing a product details, you
cna create a quote/invoice/sales order, track all quotes pertaining to that
product etc. 


regards,
Saint



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